dude i agree with your vid rap4 is sooooooooooo expensive and even here in the uk its bloody stupid i mean come on people yh it all good having a gun looking like a m4/m16 but its cheaper and alot more better to get say an a5 and put a cyclone on it or go for a bt marker with a ripclip yh your using a hopper bla bla bla but the good side is atleast you'll get looks and performance :D
wtf are you talking about all looks no performance? this marker is extremely accurate and with a few mods the performance and accuracy increase. figure out wat your talking about first before talking about it
RAP4 makes good stuff! Have you ever bought a Tipman T68 and modded it to mag fed then buy all the attachements to make it look real? You will spend MORE than what RAP4 is charging! Trust me, Ive spend quite a bit of money to make my A5 look like a real MP5 and I've spent way more than what RAP4 charges and I dont even have it mag fed. Milsim isn't about shooting 20 bps and hosing people down...it's about military simulation and RAP4 provides a product at a reasonable price!
u suck ! t68 has better performance than spyder andsome accesories like a longer barrel improves your precision and accuracy alot know your stuff dumbass !!!!!!!!
Personally I HATE hoppers, iv'e gotten tired of using them for a long time. I don't want to rant, but all in all, t68s are a good mag fed markers. I totally agree that there is some way OVER prices shit they sell, but try buying a refurbished t68 like me then you end up saving 100 bucks and you get a gun that is easily repaired since it's a spyder clone.
Rap4 = overpriced garbage. $1200 for a spyder with attachments you'll never use. All those attachments do is add unnecessary weight. Buy an x7 phenom add a stock or get a Gog G1 and call it a day folks.
@sneakeops same here. The one i'm getting is like $380--$450, I say its reasonable. Identical to the M4, has hopper feeder and magazine feed. You can customize it with like any scope or sights, c02 is in butt stock, can also get stock with coil co2 feeder.
I agree. I bought a magazine conversion kit for my U.S. army project salvo. I thought it was going to come with the air through but-stock, but it turns out they were just advertising with a 98 custom conversion and didn't have the air source to make it look better the kit was just a , was a stamped metal shell and some plastic components for a new trigger and mag-well. I pre-ordered it for a reduced price of $60 (normally $120!) and recieved only one 20 round magazine. Each individual costs $37!
They have said this they will fix things before? What about the Ram Combats? And the other products? They sold us 4 Ram Combats and ALL have problems? 1 out of 4 is understandable, BUT 4 OUT OF 4?!?! Even the repair guys said they were "NO GOOD" and the guys wont take even two back or send us the Combats that are supposed to be upgraded... We have 22 guys on our team and no one is happy so far... They need to improve there service as well as markers!
But this guy is talking about price not of performance. The t68 in real has a really good accuracy and its very to dissemble it and is most realistic gun i had ever seen. So rap4 is not that bad
your all dumb rap4 is for is not that much more then tippmann. ive over 300+ on my tippmann so it looks like rap4 guns and my gun doesnt even have a mag fied like rap4. rap4 is the first compay to make riled barrel for paintball guns. so with all that being said rap4 is more for people who want to do some paintball game as real and as close to war as it gets. so if you dont like how much they are dont get then its that easy
@rioko12345 RAP4 specializes in mag-feed guns. Don't buy fucking hopper-fed guns off of RAP4 because that site is basically made for non-hopper fed markers. Buy the magazine-fed guns, the tactical gear, and the anti-fog cleaner from them. Nothing else except for attachments!
I got 3 t68s for me and my friends, I got the rap4 pilot that's in the vid, I have every ego from 05 until 10, some spyder electras and others at my Florida house
I shot both an 07 Ego and a T68. Both used the same exact paint for both guns. The T68 fired smoothly and was accurate as all hell. The 07 Ego was accurate when it wasnt chopping up balls every 5 seconds. It also depends on your style of play. If you want to spend $1000 dollars on a gun that looks like a squirt gun, be my guest. My T68 should arrive at my house in about 2 days.
Spyder is shity and dosen't have the Tippman quality. what makes a RAP so shitty? RAP markers are not glorified spyders. the sypder KT pistol...came after the RAP pistols. RAM makes these thing primarily for training the military and secondary for us. ABS on spyder, aircraft grade Aluminum on RAP markers.
the $650 sypder was because of the internal air system, T68 grenade launcher, and M4 stock.
i agree with you even milsig makers are knock offs of the a 5 a rather wait till the mag fed conversation kits come out i want to use my a5 and not have to pay a grand for a glorified sypder and a5
@anzntactical my 07 ego is in my project salvo video at the end.. and im also making a unboxing and review vid of the dangerous power fx and the dangerous power e1 both are gonna be in hd tommorow
@skatehappy69 easy fix. as long as you dont over do the charging so much, it should last you a while. i had to change one. it started to bind and block my bolt from functioning. not a big deal. i knew it was bound to go out anyways. but what do you expect from a little spring?
@skatehappy69 what speedball gun you use? ive just recently picked an used etek2. nothing to special about it. just bought it because i got it pretty cheap and wanted to see what a tourny marker was all about.
@anzntactical true i guess its easier to take apart but ive never had to field strip my gun and i never even lubed any over the o rings yet and ive had it for 2 years now... tippmans are made for torture and rarely break thats y u see all the fields have tippman 98 rental guns
@skatehappy69 thats good. i only use co2 if im desperate. you should try out a t68...you might think twice about it...you dont even have to buy the most expensive one...they sell one that starts at $180 w/o features. if you ever do decide to try or buy one, go hopper, less problems and cheaper then mag fed.
@anzntactical sick! well now for my project salvo i have a air thru stock but the only thing im not im pressed about rap4 is the body of the gun example t68 and the mag how its like curved it just looks weird to me
@skatehappy69 the project salvo body does look more authentic...i can give you that, but it is not mag fed and its clam shell design. t68s are a lot easier to maintain and break down...been meaning to do a field strip break down vid...but always forgeting...i'd rather have the mags curved then to have it straight like the tiberius mags...a lot of people are now buying more t68s...from what i've seen and the resale value is better then tippmann...
@anzntactical shit really? nice all i did was drill holes in my gun so the stuff could fit properly but im not the smartest dude at that stuff so i had a professional do it
@skatehappy69 yep...rap4 is good. there previous gen markers werent the best, but there current gen is nice...and it is improving with better things...not many people like them because of the previous gens...but i was looking for more realism in a .68 cal marker...that is why i chose them and not a tippmann...this video dont do no justice. he complains about the pricing..hm...its because of all the accessories added to it. like i said before, my stock t68 out preforms my heavily a5...
@ anzntactical sorry about that the total is $720 but still im not getting a real milsig marker bcuz i think its ugly to be honest y are we arguing and i play speed ball not really so much scenario rap4 sucks for the price and u know its true!! and my gun was modded buy the undergroundmodshop if u know what that is and last i will make a video of the internals of my project salvo if u dont believe me
@anzntactical shut the f up my project salvo has milsig and x7 interals u stupid hoe watch my video shut the f up and have a nice day total now $900 + dollars ur a5=CRAP
@skatehappy69 milsig and x7 internals?...hm...you do know that it has a5 internals and milsig is basically an a5 but with better features right? what a noob. after spending all that money...$900+, you could of gotten yourself an actual milsig. sighs...what a waste....
@skatehappy69 get your facts straight before commenting back. and i call your bluff on $900+ on your salvo. dont even look like it. better go get our money back.
@slbushwaker66 dude ur totally right about that their is no point for buying a $400 gun when u can just buy a tippman like i did i have the project salvo upgraded i put $600 into that gun instead of buying those over exspensive rap4 guns and its nice that u live in ct and play @ hogans i do to thanks
@slbushwaker66 dude ur totally right about that their is no point for buying a $400 gun when u can just buy a tippman like i did i have the project salvo upgraded i put $600 into that gun instead of buying those over exspensive rap4 guns and its nice that u live in ct and play @ hogans i do to thanks
@slbushwaker66 dude ur totally right about that their is no point for buying a $400 gun when u can just buy a tippman like i did i have the project salvo upgraded i put $600 into that gun instead of buying those over exspensive rap4 guns and its nice that u live in ct and play @ hogans i do to thanks
@skatehappy69 so, you would rather put $600 on a salvo and save yourself the money on getting a t68 for less? don't make sense at all. dont worry, i know what im talking about. i have a fully upped mechanical ump a5 (inside and out) even the cyclone is replaced with a rip clip...and does not out perform my t68. and the t68 is just stock. don't believe me...check out my videos.
You are an idiot. you didnt even look at the real military simulation markers like the xpower or the mets. They may just be a spyder on the inside but i would rather have them more than any other paintball gun. I play paintball for the real feel and thats what rap4 is trying to bring to the party. It suck having a hopper on your gun cause then you can just spray and pray but with a limited amount of magazines you have to choose your shots and think about your ammo. RAP4 is great and your stupid.
lol why would you go to rap4 and then buy anything OTHER than the mag fed stuff? I've heard that the non magfed guns kinda suck. That's how everyone knows them because of the mag fed markers. Oh and the internals only need to be sypder-grade because the mag fed markers aren't supposed to shoot like tournament markers. I agree with you, however, when you say that their "upgraded" markers are extremely expensive. And I too, think they're a bit excessive.
@jamesont33 the hopper versions of the t68s do not suck. still shoots the same. i've done both configurations...and if you want less problems, hopper is the way to go since the balls are not working against gravity...
It would make sense for the Spyder to be cheap. If you look at the Spyder with the M203 attachment. If you buy the separate, it pretty much comes to the same price. The gun is little over $100
In my honest opinion: Ive owned a T68 for 2 years now and I see it as worth the money. Sure a scope or a bipod may be useless but for Scenario players who want to enhance their playing enviroment, its a great investment! But keep in mind, as usual good maintence means good performence. These markers were made for Elite Law Enforcement training and Military Training, but if one has the money and the 'realism' urge, I highly encourage investing in one. -btw i wasnt paid to say this-
Rap4 is a badass company and even if it is a decked out spyder it's not that expensive when you think about it because if you get the spyder inards and then do everything to it it will be more expensive so it ain't bad but some stuff is overpriced like 3600 for a m60 custom
I was on the fence about rap4 until I watched this... until this point, I've been a Spyder user, I've had an upgraded Fenix ACS from 06 since it came out and know the companies' products well. At the moment, rap4 doesn't have "the perfect storm" (which seriously made me laugh) on their site, or other Spyder remakes as far as I noticed, but, being mainly familiar with Spyder, I'm sure they've done the same thing in more ways than one. I'm going with MILSIG instead.
rap4s are great i have a t68 they are high customizavle and are very balanced, shot very well, and have many different variaties. I love rap4 they are exspensive and they are very durable. They have to be, afterall they are used by military and law enforcement if they are good enough for them they are good enough for me.
Are you an idiot? The cheap guns are expensive BECAUSE IT HAS 3 FUCKING GRENADE LAUNCHERS! Look at the price for those alone; $740 for the launchers, grenades, and charger. Add in the $100 RIS handguard, the laser, gun, magazine kit, silencer, bipod, ect, and you are reaching over that $1,200 line.
@sethlumley i do. watch my up coming vid. i'll show you what's up with on of my t68s. heck, if you haven't played with one, don't be talking. and from what i've heard, the internals are the improved version of the spyders.
haha you really are starting out. jk but if u want an m4 look buy an a5 with a car stock lapco metal mag and a ump shroud or 416 shroud. or get an x7 like me
I agree that the price is jacked, but the guns are amazing! I'd kill for a mag-fed gun that can convert to a hopper-fed! If I had one of those and a couple extra mags, I'd be happy
@Stewie2032 well, most peeps out there would never get the t68 if they thought the price is jacked...they would say "for the price of that, i could get a blah blah blah." so, if the markers are amazing, would it be worth the price to spend? you can always go for basic version for 170.00 and work your way up.
I disagree a little, but remember, many of their other products such as and the paintball sling shot is good. not to mention, their good costomer service. But it is opinion. I agree though many are a little overpriced but.
Ive shot a tippmann 98 a spyder and a t68 and i would take the t68 anyday because it shoots so smoothly and i dont care what anybody thinks and also its not the gun that makes a player good
hy let me ask you something.. what do you think about the "rap 4 meths" 43. caliber??? is the price worthless?? $550... or do you prefer bt "tm15" ?? thanks and i like your video ...
@leojiusurf depends on you. not a lot of fields allow .43 cals. for a paintball replica, i'd say worth it. for a .68 marker, depends. tm15 is the best choice for its a .68 cal. just get the t68. can always upgrade the mech trig to e-trig.
for me, i stick with mech trig. thats where the real skills kick in. cant depend on electronics forever.
Also I think you bought a t68 marker and you didn't take care of it or something. the t68 markers are not for people who are new to paintball. If you can't take apart a tippmann or a spyder then you shouldnt get this marker. I think there so much is because it's 90% replacible. If you break something in a spyder or tippmann. It most likely cannot be fixed.
@5522132 not to mention that fact that the body is strong. asked rap4 about just the body and internals w/o trig and barrel and it was gonna cost me 120.00. not bad since i have extra buttstock, barrel and can get the mech trig from my brother for free to little money.
Im sorry dude but i think your full of crap. I have a spyder electra and an t68 m4 gen6. i've used both before in mislim and in speed ball. They work the best in whatever your playing. the spyder electra in speed ball and the t68 in mislim. You really can't compare the two. It's two diffrent types of game play. And if it really is a spyder on the inside get a video proof or pictures on comparing them. You even said your new to paintball. what do you really know?
Not to burst your bubble... but the Kingman Spyder design was stolen from the originally designer. A guy that owned Wizard Paintball in Denver, Colorado was the original designer of the Spyder. The guy died broke and penniless several years ago. Budd Orr had his designs copied by everyone and he ended up losing that case because he did not patent his design. The Tippmann Squadbusters... well no since and telling too much.
lmao at the begining 'it just concerns me' lol u said it funny
but the rap4 desert eagle though is awesome i own it and have no prblms or complaints with it, but thats the pistol. the rifle its a ttly diff story, i use a decked a5.
The author of this has nailed it on the head. Rap4 is all looks. My tippmann Alpha out shoots it any day. I've had nothing but problems chopping paintballs since I bought it. My brother also bought one last year, and has the same problem. azntactical, do you possibly work for RAP4, hmmmm?
I dont work for rap4. i support the t68 line. a few chops here and there is the least of my worries. my brother has one and we didnt have any major problems. just minor such as placing the ball dentent in to far. other than that, it's been great. you and your bro are just unlucky. if i thought this marker was not good, i wouldn't of had my bro buy one nor would i buy my second marker. by bro sold his alpha black for the t68. easier to maintain.
if rap4 was giving out bad markers now (gen6), i think we would see more people complaining. but as far as i can see, majority of the people that own one doesnt seem to have enough problems for them to just give up on it. i like to tech my own markers, even though its under warrenty. in that way, i find out whats the problem is and help others who may run across that problem.
ok if you just buy a regular T68 CQB Paintball Marker and put a scope,bipod,apex silencer it will cost around $400 and also you dont need a grenade launcher its just a waste of money
Theirs nothing wrong with the blowback/spyder design. Its rock solid but nobody knows how to take care of their spyders when their new so they instantly call them crap. Although I think Rap4 is WAYYY overpriced and milsim is ugly.
i am not going to lie, some of there stuff is kind of expensive and that i can get it cheaper at scheels cabelas (dont kknow how to spell it). but hey, that's business. the only other type in rap4s league is the milsigs and they are even more expensive. so its your pick.
hm...i like it. already have 3 t68s. looks a lot better than any other milsim markers out there so far. have you shot one or at least held one? these markers are more durable then the spyders even if its a clone. you'll know why it's more expensive. i like the rap4 "t68" markers. i didnt go extreme, but bought the ones that i tought would best fit my mood for that day of play. but thats just me.
mike from techpb likes it and everyone knows how well respected he is in his opinion.
@azntactical vYes but keep in mind that the designers and builders of the rap4 products are not paintball players. Their goal is to create a product for law enforcment training purposes. So most of their products do not meet the needs of players in fast paced paintball games. Lots of the equipment the put onto the gun(scopes, bipods ect.) are usless for paintball. Bottomline is that for playing paintball, you are better off going with Tippmann or another highly experienced company.
what are you talking about? if these were made just for law enforcment purposes, then why are the advertised in paintball magazines? how do you know that these designers and builders are not paintball players? RAP means real action paintball. These products are never ment to aim for fast paced games like speedball. It's aimed for milsim/woodsball players. Scopes, bipodes, ect...? you can also put that crap on any marker that has weaver type system.
obviously, i've seen, held and shot the so called us army alpha black and decked out tippmann that is supposed to resemble the m4. not even close compared to rap4s version. when it comes to the realism area, rap4 has them all beat. all other milsim products only have the option of hopper fed. raps got the option of mag, hopper or hopper and mag.
@SLbushwacker66 they are bringing the box mag out in october and it holds 250 rounds and it will be good for fast games. I am getting one for mine. They really aren't bad guns but they would be horrible for speedball. Definatly a woodsball gun.
@SLbushwacker66 Well the purpose of this is to be a milsim gun. I think you should think that they'd market it this to regular paintball players as "milsim" as well. This is built for speed ball. If you want a speedball gun then go buy one. Therefore you're argument is invalid. They also dun push you to buy fucking scopes and bipods. This is built for military/law enforcement use, and milsim players. Outdoor, or indoor milsim players like it. This is basically bashing the product.
@SLbushwacker66 You're making assumptions based on no expierence. Nobody ever said Spyder was a bad design because it wasn't and isn't. It's economical and simple but the problem lies with the Spyders proprietary components. The T68 is an amazingly accurate gun which neither milsig or tippmann can ever match. Yes it was made originally for military use but for realistic PAINTBALL training and while it does have problems I haven't seen a gun under $1000 that has no problems across it's range.
@SLbushwacker66 Key word being milsim, or lea training. Anyone who does use it is doing milsim, you made an absolute crap point. You took a speed ball player's perspective and put it on a milsim weapon, your points are crap except for milsim does not equal speed ball. BTW a spyder does not use shells ;)
i use my G6R for speedball and a T68 for bushball, too different styles, theres a video of a guys jumping on a t68 like 6 times and it works fine after, if i did that to my G6R it would snap, guaranteed
@Jkiller2895 dude, why would i want another tippmann? the only reason i got a tippmann a5 because i got it for free and then decided to through stuff at it. and guess what, not worth it. and a tm15, just another speedball in a milsim body. sorry, but the egronomics of the tm15 sucks...
@azntactical so your saying the T68 is ergonomic? well the t68 is modeled after the M4/ar15 rifle, and those are known to be some of the LEAST ergonomic modern rifle. Basicaly your argument dosnt make sense. also integrating speedball technology into a woodsball product is a fantastic idea because the technology difference between woodsball and speedball is substancial, speedball guns are SO far ahead of most woodsball guns.
@SLbushwacker66 talking about the pistol grip frame...i mean...i can put any m4/ar15 grips on it for better comfort...you cant do that with a tm15 can you?...no...and not with a salvo...plus...you cant mag feed the salvo or the tm15...and i know there is a mag kit out for the tippies/bt...
sorry...but i dont need all that fancy technology in my paintball gun (like the tm15) just to shoot 15bps...dont worry...i've used an e-trig on the t68 already and it keeps up just fine w/o all that eyes crap
@azntactical back in the day you would have to be rich to own an electronic gun, people simply couldnt afford them. Now in 2011 electronic is now considered industry standard, even rental guns these days are electronic. Dont get me wrong, i love using my tiberius T8's but everyone can afford electronic markers now, which means faster, more efficient, and better performing markers are in the hands of almost every modern player. mech guns are a considered outdated and arnt as common in todays game
@SLbushwacker66 not every field has electronic markers...our field still uses nothing but tippies from 98s-phenom (only a few of those). if you are talking about speedball markers, sure anyone can get it at 200.00. but you cant find that price in the milsim world w/ electronics. on that note, speedball companies always forget that with milsim, they got to have that selector switch and not that turn the power button off type crap.
@SLbushwacker66 other speedball companies try to make milsim out of their speedball markers, but they just dont get how to make it milsim. anyways, im sure tms are nice markers, its just that kid jkiller2895 commented saying i could of spent the money on a salvo? haha. that made me laugh.
i wouldnt mind trying a pure electric marker, but mechanical markers is where my heart is set. nothing complicated when things go wrong and not expensive to fix.
how could you possibly compare this to a Spyder?? Alot of guns have the same bolt engines as the spyder. I dont necessarily love RAP4 but, their nade launchers, mines, and rocket launchers are preformance. Their handguns are also top of the line.
rap4 is a fucking joke, and i knew that before mike even talked about them, scenario players would get mopped carrying that heavy ass shit around with them. you could save your money and just carry around a vice or ego 09 and get wayyyyyyy better performance and not be tired after 5 minutes of running throught the woods with all that crap strapped to that crap.
@SLbushwacker66 most definatly not a t68 is definatly not worth the money the day ima pay over 150 dollars for anything spyder related is the day i should be commited
RAP4's are designed for milsim look, and as Mike@Techpb said, the closer you get to milsim, the further you get from preformance. These are good guns in their element, realism. Overall helpful vid though...
Play Airsoft then.
GodOfSwat 2 hours ago
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k1DBLITZ 1 week ago
whats wrong with the internals being spyder? Every spyder gun i've ever used has been tough as nails and fired everytime I pick it up.
blaze7570 1 week ago
dude i agree with your vid rap4 is sooooooooooo expensive and even here in the uk its bloody stupid i mean come on people yh it all good having a gun looking like a m4/m16 but its cheaper and alot more better to get say an a5 and put a cyclone on it or go for a bt marker with a ripclip yh your using a hopper bla bla bla but the good side is atleast you'll get looks and performance :D
nickgandy3 1 month ago
RAP4 is crap!!!!!!!!!! ive owned a t68, spend your money on a milsig or spyders new mag fed mrx!! PEACE!
Mercedesyii2222 1 month ago
wtf are you talking about all looks no performance? this marker is extremely accurate and with a few mods the performance and accuracy increase. figure out wat your talking about first before talking about it
shadow0imposter 3 months ago
RAP4 makes good stuff! Have you ever bought a Tipman T68 and modded it to mag fed then buy all the attachements to make it look real? You will spend MORE than what RAP4 is charging! Trust me, Ive spend quite a bit of money to make my A5 look like a real MP5 and I've spent way more than what RAP4 charges and I dont even have it mag fed. Milsim isn't about shooting 20 bps and hosing people down...it's about military simulation and RAP4 provides a product at a reasonable price!
RCHeliPilot 3 months ago
@RCHeliPilot i hear that loli have a 98 custom and havent put mods on it bcus it would be cheaper to buy a t68.
shadow0imposter 3 months ago
hes just mad because he cant buy one
maxxxx380 4 months ago
u suck ! t68 has better performance than spyder andsome accesories like a longer barrel improves your precision and accuracy alot know your stuff dumbass !!!!!!!!
21hdflat 4 months ago
I think the rap4 website needs a makeover
sneakeops 4 months ago
Personally I HATE hoppers, iv'e gotten tired of using them for a long time. I don't want to rant, but all in all, t68s are a good mag fed markers. I totally agree that there is some way OVER prices shit they sell, but try buying a refurbished t68 like me then you end up saving 100 bucks and you get a gun that is easily repaired since it's a spyder clone.
TheDeviousSniper 4 months ago
Rap4 = overpriced garbage. $1200 for a spyder with attachments you'll never use. All those attachments do is add unnecessary weight. Buy an x7 phenom add a stock or get a Gog G1 and call it a day folks.
SlipperySpandex 4 months ago
im getting the rap4 t68 gen.7 splitfire dual feed is it cheap?
sneakeops 5 months ago
@sneakeops same here. The one i'm getting is like $380--$450, I say its reasonable. Identical to the M4, has hopper feeder and magazine feed. You can customize it with like any scope or sights, c02 is in butt stock, can also get stock with coil co2 feeder.
jjd705 5 months ago
I agree. I bought a magazine conversion kit for my U.S. army project salvo. I thought it was going to come with the air through but-stock, but it turns out they were just advertising with a 98 custom conversion and didn't have the air source to make it look better the kit was just a , was a stamped metal shell and some plastic components for a new trigger and mag-well. I pre-ordered it for a reduced price of $60 (normally $120!) and recieved only one 20 round magazine. Each individual costs $37!
drifterguy4 5 months ago
speedball is betahh
chasefilming 5 months ago 2
what is sonorio its pronounced senareo
armymancommander1 5 months ago
@armymancommander1 What is senareo its pronounced scenario
smoothoperator427 5 months ago
simunition is such a better version of paintball. except.. the rounds are expensive..
DunkableDave 7 months ago
@DunkableDave and hurt like hell, lol
PBVirus 6 months ago
rap 4 does have some cool attachments though
junits15 7 months ago
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They have said this they will fix things before? What about the Ram Combats? And the other products? They sold us 4 Ram Combats and ALL have problems? 1 out of 4 is understandable, BUT 4 OUT OF 4?!?! Even the repair guys said they were "NO GOOD" and the guys wont take even two back or send us the Combats that are supposed to be upgraded... We have 22 guys on our team and no one is happy so far... They need to improve there service as well as markers!
BadgersBrigade 8 months ago
Yet Rap4 has amazing accuracy and a lot of features most gun makers don't use.
Slightlyevil 8 months ago
@Slightlyevil like wat?
narutosoccerfan 6 months ago
milsig
lunatiy 9 months ago
Doesnt rap4 use tipmann internals on some of their guns too?
flyingdutchman916 9 months ago
@flyingdutchman916 just only the detent for the gen7. internals are stacked like the spyders.
azntactical 7 months ago
@flyingdutchman916 All markers are just buit on previous internals that work great, theyre well proven systems so peolpe just inprove prevoius ideas
TechSgtAdamsWrecks 5 months ago
But this guy is talking about price not of performance. The t68 in real has a really good accuracy and its very to dissemble it and is most realistic gun i had ever seen. So rap4 is not that bad
wisci98 9 months ago
your all dumb rap4 is for is not that much more then tippmann. ive over 300+ on my tippmann so it looks like rap4 guns and my gun doesnt even have a mag fied like rap4. rap4 is the first compay to make riled barrel for paintball guns. so with all that being said rap4 is more for people who want to do some paintball game as real and as close to war as it gets. so if you dont like how much they are dont get then its that easy
rioko12345 9 months ago
@rioko12345 RAP4 specializes in mag-feed guns. Don't buy fucking hopper-fed guns off of RAP4 because that site is basically made for non-hopper fed markers. Buy the magazine-fed guns, the tactical gear, and the anti-fog cleaner from them. Nothing else except for attachments!
Sierra7Paintball 9 months ago
I got 3 t68s for me and my friends, I got the rap4 pilot that's in the vid, I have every ego from 05 until 10, some spyder electras and others at my Florida house
haloreachcookie 9 months ago
Get an MR1 they are epic with response triggers
wrollercoaster500 9 months ago
My bad, it was an 09 Ego.
EggietoAPerez 10 months ago
I shot both an 07 Ego and a T68. Both used the same exact paint for both guns. The T68 fired smoothly and was accurate as all hell. The 07 Ego was accurate when it wasnt chopping up balls every 5 seconds. It also depends on your style of play. If you want to spend $1000 dollars on a gun that looks like a squirt gun, be my guest. My T68 should arrive at my house in about 2 days.
EggietoAPerez 10 months ago
like a $1000 angel or ego is gonna sell?
Have you used a RAM marker before?
Spyder is shity and dosen't have the Tippman quality. what makes a RAP so shitty? RAP markers are not glorified spyders. the sypder KT pistol...came after the RAP pistols. RAM makes these thing primarily for training the military and secondary for us. ABS on spyder, aircraft grade Aluminum on RAP markers.
the $650 sypder was because of the internal air system, T68 grenade launcher, and M4 stock.
phoenox23 10 months ago
you open my eyes O.O
2docc 10 months ago
i agree with you even milsig makers are knock offs of the a 5 a rather wait till the mag fed conversation kits come out i want to use my a5 and not have to pay a grand for a glorified sypder and a5
jbarah05 11 months ago
@anzntactical my 07 ego is in my project salvo video at the end.. and im also making a unboxing and review vid of the dangerous power fx and the dangerous power e1 both are gonna be in hd tommorow
skatehappy69 11 months ago
@anzntactical i have a 07 ego and a bob long victory but i love playing pump ... and yea ill sub 2 u
skatehappy69 11 months ago
@anzntactical yea
skatehappy69 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 easy fix. as long as you dont over do the charging so much, it should last you a while. i had to change one. it started to bind and block my bolt from functioning. not a big deal. i knew it was bound to go out anyways. but what do you expect from a little spring?
azntactical 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 what speedball gun you use? ive just recently picked an used etek2. nothing to special about it. just bought it because i got it pretty cheap and wanted to see what a tourny marker was all about.
azntactical 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 how bout this...you sub to me and i'll sub to you...in that way, we can keep tabs on each other vids...
azntactical 11 months ago
@anzntactical i already have a t68 and the spring snapped on me it is a great shooter but id rather stick with tippman
skatehappy69 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 what spring? the charging im assuming?
azntactical 11 months ago
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azntactical 11 months ago
@anzntactical true i guess its easier to take apart but ive never had to field strip my gun and i never even lubed any over the o rings yet and ive had it for 2 years now... tippmans are made for torture and rarely break thats y u see all the fields have tippman 98 rental guns
skatehappy69 11 months ago
@anzntactical i only use hpa not co2
skatehappy69 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 thats good. i only use co2 if im desperate. you should try out a t68...you might think twice about it...you dont even have to buy the most expensive one...they sell one that starts at $180 w/o features. if you ever do decide to try or buy one, go hopper, less problems and cheaper then mag fed.
azntactical 11 months ago
@anzntactical sick! well now for my project salvo i have a air thru stock but the only thing im not im pressed about rap4 is the body of the gun example t68 and the mag how its like curved it just looks weird to me
skatehappy69 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 the project salvo body does look more authentic...i can give you that, but it is not mag fed and its clam shell design. t68s are a lot easier to maintain and break down...been meaning to do a field strip break down vid...but always forgeting...i'd rather have the mags curved then to have it straight like the tiberius mags...a lot of people are now buying more t68s...from what i've seen and the resale value is better then tippmann...
azntactical 11 months ago
@anzntactical shit really? nice all i did was drill holes in my gun so the stuff could fit properly but im not the smartest dude at that stuff so i had a professional do it
skatehappy69 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 now with my a5, instead of that braided hose, i've put on a macro line for that cleaner look...hpa only though...
azntactical 11 months ago
@anzntactical i will.. and i see u love rap4
skatehappy69 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 yep...rap4 is good. there previous gen markers werent the best, but there current gen is nice...and it is improving with better things...not many people like them because of the previous gens...but i was looking for more realism in a .68 cal marker...that is why i chose them and not a tippmann...this video dont do no justice. he complains about the pricing..hm...its because of all the accessories added to it. like i said before, my stock t68 out preforms my heavily a5...
azntactical 11 months ago
@ anzntactical sorry about that the total is $720 but still im not getting a real milsig marker bcuz i think its ugly to be honest y are we arguing and i play speed ball not really so much scenario rap4 sucks for the price and u know its true!! and my gun was modded buy the undergroundmodshop if u know what that is and last i will make a video of the internals of my project salvo if u dont believe me
skatehappy69 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 sure...why not...
azntactical 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 also, i did all my moding myself. didnt need someone else to do it for me.
azntactical 11 months ago
@anzntactical shut the f up my project salvo has milsig and x7 interals u stupid hoe watch my video shut the f up and have a nice day total now $900 + dollars ur a5=CRAP
skatehappy69 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 milsig and x7 internals?...hm...you do know that it has a5 internals and milsig is basically an a5 but with better features right? what a noob. after spending all that money...$900+, you could of gotten yourself an actual milsig. sighs...what a waste....
azntactical 11 months ago
@skatehappy69 get your facts straight before commenting back. and i call your bluff on $900+ on your salvo. dont even look like it. better go get our money back.
azntactical 11 months ago
@slbushwaker66 dude ur totally right about that their is no point for buying a $400 gun when u can just buy a tippman like i did i have the project salvo upgraded i put $600 into that gun instead of buying those over exspensive rap4 guns and its nice that u live in ct and play @ hogans i do to thanks
skatehappy69 1 year ago
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@slbushwaker66 dude ur totally right about that their is no point for buying a $400 gun when u can just buy a tippman like i did i have the project salvo upgraded i put $600 into that gun instead of buying those over exspensive rap4 guns and its nice that u live in ct and play @ hogans i do to thanks
skatehappy69 1 year ago
@slbushwaker66 dude ur totally right about that their is no point for buying a $400 gun when u can just buy a tippman like i did i have the project salvo upgraded i put $600 into that gun instead of buying those over exspensive rap4 guns and its nice that u live in ct and play @ hogans i do to thanks
skatehappy69 1 year ago
@skatehappy69 so, you would rather put $600 on a salvo and save yourself the money on getting a t68 for less? don't make sense at all. dont worry, i know what im talking about. i have a fully upped mechanical ump a5 (inside and out) even the cyclone is replaced with a rip clip...and does not out perform my t68. and the t68 is just stock. don't believe me...check out my videos.
azntactical 11 months ago
You are an idiot. you didnt even look at the real military simulation markers like the xpower or the mets. They may just be a spyder on the inside but i would rather have them more than any other paintball gun. I play paintball for the real feel and thats what rap4 is trying to bring to the party. It suck having a hopper on your gun cause then you can just spray and pray but with a limited amount of magazines you have to choose your shots and think about your ammo. RAP4 is great and your stupid.
DaleAnthonyB 1 year ago
ok so its a spider got it haahhahhahaha
nikz198519 1 year ago
lol why would you go to rap4 and then buy anything OTHER than the mag fed stuff? I've heard that the non magfed guns kinda suck. That's how everyone knows them because of the mag fed markers. Oh and the internals only need to be sypder-grade because the mag fed markers aren't supposed to shoot like tournament markers. I agree with you, however, when you say that their "upgraded" markers are extremely expensive. And I too, think they're a bit excessive.
jamesont33 1 year ago
@jamesont33 the hopper versions of the t68s do not suck. still shoots the same. i've done both configurations...and if you want less problems, hopper is the way to go since the balls are not working against gravity...
azntactical 1 year ago
It would make sense for the Spyder to be cheap. If you look at the Spyder with the M203 attachment. If you buy the separate, it pretty much comes to the same price. The gun is little over $100
MimicTheRaver 1 year ago
i think a tm15 is better
fatbastrdslapu 1 year ago 2
i have a rap4 t68 and it kick butt never jams and i have a 20 rnd mag so awesome
but the grenade launchers are like $250 for the shell n stuff
i see what u mean but rap4 gun are great the best i have a mag fed one with the air tank in the butt stock
vthemasterv 1 year ago
In my honest opinion: Ive owned a T68 for 2 years now and I see it as worth the money. Sure a scope or a bipod may be useless but for Scenario players who want to enhance their playing enviroment, its a great investment! But keep in mind, as usual good maintence means good performence. These markers were made for Elite Law Enforcement training and Military Training, but if one has the money and the 'realism' urge, I highly encourage investing in one. -btw i wasnt paid to say this-
tyler4171 1 year ago
Rap4 is a badass company and even if it is a decked out spyder it's not that expensive when you think about it because if you get the spyder inards and then do everything to it it will be more expensive so it ain't bad but some stuff is overpriced like 3600 for a m60 custom
paintballer653 1 year ago
I was on the fence about rap4 until I watched this... until this point, I've been a Spyder user, I've had an upgraded Fenix ACS from 06 since it came out and know the companies' products well. At the moment, rap4 doesn't have "the perfect storm" (which seriously made me laugh) on their site, or other Spyder remakes as far as I noticed, but, being mainly familiar with Spyder, I'm sure they've done the same thing in more ways than one. I'm going with MILSIG instead.
InnocenceAvenged 1 year ago
@InnocenceAvenged and milsig is basically another tippmann a5, but mag fed.
azntactical 1 year ago
i think that the magazine conversion for the x7 phenom is pretty cheap
liamconnolly33 1 year ago
mike from tech pb said its a suited up spider
liamconnolly33 1 year ago
rap4s are great i have a t68 they are high customizavle and are very balanced, shot very well, and have many different variaties. I love rap4 they are exspensive and they are very durable. They have to be, afterall they are used by military and law enforcement if they are good enough for them they are good enough for me.
smitty2330 1 year ago
Are you an idiot? The cheap guns are expensive BECAUSE IT HAS 3 FUCKING GRENADE LAUNCHERS! Look at the price for those alone; $740 for the launchers, grenades, and charger. Add in the $100 RIS handguard, the laser, gun, magazine kit, silencer, bipod, ect, and you are reaching over that $1,200 line.
Kerenskyz15 1 year ago
@sethlumley i do. watch my up coming vid. i'll show you what's up with on of my t68s. heck, if you haven't played with one, don't be talking. and from what i've heard, the internals are the improved version of the spyders.
azntactical 1 year ago
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azntactical 1 year ago
buy your rap4 products from urban ops armoury they have much better service
miked1997 1 year ago
haha you really are starting out. jk but if u want an m4 look buy an a5 with a car stock lapco metal mag and a ump shroud or 416 shroud. or get an x7 like me
miked1997 1 year ago
@miked1997 ump shroud will make it more of a ump marker...not a m4.
azntactical 1 year ago
@ARTerialBleed if you go into his channel, he is more of a speedballer. so he wouldnt really understand the world of milsim.
azntactical 1 year ago
dude buy ur self a new computer and a t68 unless ur cheap
snoopybud 1 year ago
i bought a RAP4 T68 AK Splitfire Dual Feed w/ 3000 PSI Tank for
$649.95 a very good marker and you have realism there well worth it.
Rap4 is the best paint ball store out there BT s oky.
Mitchel141 1 year ago
i bought a RAP4 T68 AK Splitfire Dual Feed w/ 3000 PSI Tank for $649.95 a very good marker and you have realism there well worth it.
Rap4 is the best paint ball store out there BT s oky.
Mitchel141 1 year ago
I agree that the price is jacked, but the guns are amazing! I'd kill for a mag-fed gun that can convert to a hopper-fed! If I had one of those and a couple extra mags, I'd be happy
Stewie2032 1 year ago
@Stewie2032 well, most peeps out there would never get the t68 if they thought the price is jacked...they would say "for the price of that, i could get a blah blah blah." so, if the markers are amazing, would it be worth the price to spend? you can always go for basic version for 170.00 and work your way up.
azntactical 1 year ago
saw this video from wormongers. I don't know much about paintball, but in terms of quality, please use camtasia or hyper cam next time :P!
totallydubbed 1 year ago
I disagree a little, but remember, many of their other products such as and the paintball sling shot is good. not to mention, their good costomer service. But it is opinion. I agree though many are a little overpriced but.
bringindarain1 1 year ago
Thanks a lot
leojiusurf 1 year ago
Ive shot a tippmann 98 a spyder and a t68 and i would take the t68 anyday because it shoots so smoothly and i dont care what anybody thinks and also its not the gun that makes a player good
paintballer1998 1 year ago
i was looking at a spyder gun (MR4) and i was wondering if the iron sight works?
xXTheSpoonm4nXx 1 year ago
hy let me ask you something.. what do you think about the "rap 4 meths" 43. caliber??? is the price worthless?? $550... or do you prefer bt "tm15" ?? thanks and i like your video ...
leojiusurf 1 year ago
@leojiusurf depends on you. not a lot of fields allow .43 cals. for a paintball replica, i'd say worth it. for a .68 marker, depends. tm15 is the best choice for its a .68 cal. just get the t68. can always upgrade the mech trig to e-trig.
for me, i stick with mech trig. thats where the real skills kick in. cant depend on electronics forever.
azntactical 1 year ago
Also I think you bought a t68 marker and you didn't take care of it or something. the t68 markers are not for people who are new to paintball. If you can't take apart a tippmann or a spyder then you shouldnt get this marker. I think there so much is because it's 90% replacible. If you break something in a spyder or tippmann. It most likely cannot be fixed.
5522132 1 year ago
@5522132 not to mention that fact that the body is strong. asked rap4 about just the body and internals w/o trig and barrel and it was gonna cost me 120.00. not bad since i have extra buttstock, barrel and can get the mech trig from my brother for free to little money.
azntactical 1 year ago
Im sorry dude but i think your full of crap. I have a spyder electra and an t68 m4 gen6. i've used both before in mislim and in speed ball. They work the best in whatever your playing. the spyder electra in speed ball and the t68 in mislim. You really can't compare the two. It's two diffrent types of game play. And if it really is a spyder on the inside get a video proof or pictures on comparing them. You even said your new to paintball. what do you really know?
5522132 1 year ago
@5522132 i know right. there are many guns out there that has the stack tube design.
azntactical 1 year ago
Not to burst your bubble... but the Kingman Spyder design was stolen from the originally designer. A guy that owned Wizard Paintball in Denver, Colorado was the original designer of the Spyder. The guy died broke and penniless several years ago. Budd Orr had his designs copied by everyone and he ended up losing that case because he did not patent his design. The Tippmann Squadbusters... well no since and telling too much.
EasyKill7 1 year ago
lmao at the begining 'it just concerns me' lol u said it funny
but the rap4 desert eagle though is awesome i own it and have no prblms or complaints with it, but thats the pistol. the rifle its a ttly diff story, i use a decked a5.
luv the vid though
fhjj22 1 year ago
The author of this has nailed it on the head. Rap4 is all looks. My tippmann Alpha out shoots it any day. I've had nothing but problems chopping paintballs since I bought it. My brother also bought one last year, and has the same problem. azntactical, do you possibly work for RAP4, hmmmm?
shadowimage06 1 year ago
@shadowimage06
I dont work for rap4. i support the t68 line. a few chops here and there is the least of my worries. my brother has one and we didnt have any major problems. just minor such as placing the ball dentent in to far. other than that, it's been great. you and your bro are just unlucky. if i thought this marker was not good, i wouldn't of had my bro buy one nor would i buy my second marker. by bro sold his alpha black for the t68. easier to maintain.
azntactical 1 year ago
@shadowimage06
if rap4 was giving out bad markers now (gen6), i think we would see more people complaining. but as far as i can see, majority of the people that own one doesnt seem to have enough problems for them to just give up on it. i like to tech my own markers, even though its under warrenty. in that way, i find out whats the problem is and help others who may run across that problem.
azntactical 1 year ago
ok if you just buy a regular T68 CQB Paintball Marker and put a scope,bipod,apex silencer it will cost around $400 and also you dont need a grenade launcher its just a waste of money
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MrMagiskMann 2 years ago
Theirs nothing wrong with the blowback/spyder design. Its rock solid but nobody knows how to take care of their spyders when their new so they instantly call them crap. Although I think Rap4 is WAYYY overpriced and milsim is ugly.
tdwp3 2 years ago
if i was to get a milsim marker itd have to be a t9.
NickThePumpPlaya 2 years ago
there 43cal makers are the best out there
walmartjames 2 years ago
i am not going to lie, some of there stuff is kind of expensive and that i can get it cheaper at scheels cabelas (dont kknow how to spell it). but hey, that's business. the only other type in rap4s league is the milsigs and they are even more expensive. so its your pick.
azntactical 2 years ago
hm...i like it. already have 3 t68s. looks a lot better than any other milsim markers out there so far. have you shot one or at least held one? these markers are more durable then the spyders even if its a clone. you'll know why it's more expensive. i like the rap4 "t68" markers. i didnt go extreme, but bought the ones that i tought would best fit my mood for that day of play. but thats just me.
mike from techpb likes it and everyone knows how well respected he is in his opinion.
azntactical 2 years ago
@azntactical vYes but keep in mind that the designers and builders of the rap4 products are not paintball players. Their goal is to create a product for law enforcment training purposes. So most of their products do not meet the needs of players in fast paced paintball games. Lots of the equipment the put onto the gun(scopes, bipods ect.) are usless for paintball. Bottomline is that for playing paintball, you are better off going with Tippmann or another highly experienced company.
SLbushwacker66 2 years ago 4
what are you talking about? if these were made just for law enforcment purposes, then why are the advertised in paintball magazines? how do you know that these designers and builders are not paintball players? RAP means real action paintball. These products are never ment to aim for fast paced games like speedball. It's aimed for milsim/woodsball players. Scopes, bipodes, ect...? you can also put that crap on any marker that has weaver type system.
azntactical 2 years ago
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azntactical 2 years ago
obviously, i've seen, held and shot the so called us army alpha black and decked out tippmann that is supposed to resemble the m4. not even close compared to rap4s version. when it comes to the realism area, rap4 has them all beat. all other milsim products only have the option of hopper fed. raps got the option of mag, hopper or hopper and mag.
azntactical 2 years ago
@SLbushwacker66 they are bringing the box mag out in october and it holds 250 rounds and it will be good for fast games. I am getting one for mine. They really aren't bad guns but they would be horrible for speedball. Definatly a woodsball gun.
freeskierjay1233 1 year ago
@SLbushwacker66 Well the purpose of this is to be a milsim gun. I think you should think that they'd market it this to regular paintball players as "milsim" as well. This is built for speed ball. If you want a speedball gun then go buy one. Therefore you're argument is invalid. They also dun push you to buy fucking scopes and bipods. This is built for military/law enforcement use, and milsim players. Outdoor, or indoor milsim players like it. This is basically bashing the product.
BonhommeHero 1 year ago
@SLbushwacker66 You're making assumptions based on no expierence. Nobody ever said Spyder was a bad design because it wasn't and isn't. It's economical and simple but the problem lies with the Spyders proprietary components. The T68 is an amazingly accurate gun which neither milsig or tippmann can ever match. Yes it was made originally for military use but for realistic PAINTBALL training and while it does have problems I haven't seen a gun under $1000 that has no problems across it's range.
jimmyhoffa9 1 year ago
@SLbushwacker66 Thats why you use these guns for Milsim games where its meant to be realistic
VWFixxer 11 months ago
@SLbushwacker66 Key word being milsim, or lea training. Anyone who does use it is doing milsim, you made an absolute crap point. You took a speed ball player's perspective and put it on a milsim weapon, your points are crap except for milsim does not equal speed ball. BTW a spyder does not use shells ;)
wafflePWNAGE22 11 months ago
i use my G6R for speedball and a T68 for bushball, too different styles, theres a video of a guys jumping on a t68 like 6 times and it works fine after, if i did that to my G6R it would snap, guaranteed
uncleherb420 10 months ago
@azntactical you spent all that money a t68 when you coulda just got a tm15 or project salvo
Jkiller2895 1 year ago
@Jkiller2895 dude, why would i want another tippmann? the only reason i got a tippmann a5 because i got it for free and then decided to through stuff at it. and guess what, not worth it. and a tm15, just another speedball in a milsim body. sorry, but the egronomics of the tm15 sucks...
azntactical 1 year ago
@azntactical so your saying the T68 is ergonomic? well the t68 is modeled after the M4/ar15 rifle, and those are known to be some of the LEAST ergonomic modern rifle. Basicaly your argument dosnt make sense. also integrating speedball technology into a woodsball product is a fantastic idea because the technology difference between woodsball and speedball is substancial, speedball guns are SO far ahead of most woodsball guns.
SLbushwacker66 1 year ago
@SLbushwacker66 talking about the pistol grip frame...i mean...i can put any m4/ar15 grips on it for better comfort...you cant do that with a tm15 can you?...no...and not with a salvo...plus...you cant mag feed the salvo or the tm15...and i know there is a mag kit out for the tippies/bt...
sorry...but i dont need all that fancy technology in my paintball gun (like the tm15) just to shoot 15bps...dont worry...i've used an e-trig on the t68 already and it keeps up just fine w/o all that eyes crap
azntactical 1 year ago
@azntactical back in the day you would have to be rich to own an electronic gun, people simply couldnt afford them. Now in 2011 electronic is now considered industry standard, even rental guns these days are electronic. Dont get me wrong, i love using my tiberius T8's but everyone can afford electronic markers now, which means faster, more efficient, and better performing markers are in the hands of almost every modern player. mech guns are a considered outdated and arnt as common in todays game
SLbushwacker66 1 year ago
@SLbushwacker66 not every field has electronic markers...our field still uses nothing but tippies from 98s-phenom (only a few of those). if you are talking about speedball markers, sure anyone can get it at 200.00. but you cant find that price in the milsim world w/ electronics. on that note, speedball companies always forget that with milsim, they got to have that selector switch and not that turn the power button off type crap.
azntactical 1 year ago
@SLbushwacker66 other speedball companies try to make milsim out of their speedball markers, but they just dont get how to make it milsim. anyways, im sure tms are nice markers, its just that kid jkiller2895 commented saying i could of spent the money on a salvo? haha. that made me laugh.
i wouldnt mind trying a pure electric marker, but mechanical markers is where my heart is set. nothing complicated when things go wrong and not expensive to fix.
azntactical 1 year ago
@Jkiller2895 also, i like my markers mechanical and not have to rely on electronics.
azntactical 1 year ago
your ugly
tksully5 2 years ago
also keep in mind the grenade launchers that are mounted to the barrels are extremely hard to perfect, RAP4 has done an awesome job with it
interscope8 2 years ago
how could you possibly compare this to a Spyder?? Alot of guns have the same bolt engines as the spyder. I dont necessarily love RAP4 but, their nade launchers, mines, and rocket launchers are preformance. Their handguns are also top of the line.
interscope8 2 years ago
rap4 makes me want to put a bag of burning crap on my grandma's doorstep
thewedding123 2 years ago
@thewedding123 lol a little extreme
SLbushwacker66 2 years ago
Dude!!! I need help!!!
¿Azodin Blitz or Proto SLG?, and why?
please reply!!!
SpartanKyuubi 2 years ago
if ur hard core scenario hell yes. if u haven't played much go buy a 98 custom. u all most never have to clean it, and its hard to brake it.
icyGrip666 2 years ago
for a ok mislim look and sweet performance
sp1 blackheart with apex barrel= less then 300 dollers
othingelse 2 years ago
Wth with the spyder pilot! You can get a grenade launcher stock and pilot all for around $150 holy shit!
Pier2pie 2 years ago
rap4 is a fucking joke, and i knew that before mike even talked about them, scenario players would get mopped carrying that heavy ass shit around with them. you could save your money and just carry around a vice or ego 09 and get wayyyyyyy better performance and not be tired after 5 minutes of running throught the woods with all that crap strapped to that crap.
brettline07 2 years ago
Want a AMAZING milsim gun
get the Bob long MTAC
rapturfreak13 2 years ago 2
agreeeeeeee
brettline07 2 years ago
@rapturfreak13 yea its just like a marq in a shell but sooooooooooooo coool
ppp123fg 2 years ago
yeah its sweet, but not worth $900
SLbushwacker66 2 years ago
@SLbushwacker66 most definatly not a t68 is definatly not worth the money the day ima pay over 150 dollars for anything spyder related is the day i should be commited
Caboose129 2 years ago
RAP4's are designed for milsim look, and as Mike@Techpb said, the closer you get to milsim, the further you get from preformance. These are good guns in their element, realism. Overall helpful vid though...
war0411 2 years ago
i used to want the rap 4 shot gun thing
RedEmpireGuy 2 years ago
@RedEmpireGuy Me 2 =D
SLbushwacker66 2 years ago
go to paintball discounters and get a mini sniper v2 pump
MARthePaintballer 2 years ago
rap 4 only are spyder clones the guns have whie plastic bolts and the only upgrades are probobly metal body
xlsubzero 2 years ago
Pretty cool vid.
cannibalchild99 2 years ago
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mackie1234567 2 years ago
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RedEmpireGuy 2 years ago