Correcting the Faults against Ellen White 7 of 7

[keilasol]

in the book Testimonies to the church, volume 9, page 11 she predicted 9/11 with precision. 9/11? volume 9, page 11? just a coincidence? i don't think so. while u're so worried about what she said or didn't say or should have said, jesus is coming and you're not getting ready!

[wewinintheend]

that's what I thought. Not a single one. how sad. you know I came up with several false phophecies in a single search! like when set the date for Christ's return, then said the "angel" spoke in Cannan so she didn't understand and reset the date, must have been speaking in Cannan again (she never claimed it was conditional...opps!!) still waiting for a defence, one just ONE...

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

My friend did you actually miss what I said? Read the Great Controversy and you will see many. My friend if you continue to hate the Adventist church, your mind will only slander. So I advise you to search the word because by observing even your comments, it is not Christlike so it is best you don't comment anymore if all you are doing is mocking and not even listen to what people say. It is not about I am right your wrong, it is about a PLAIN thus sayeth the Lord.

Take care.

[kscar2010]

To anyone who reads this, do you honestly believe that you can go through life murdering and stealing or not keeping ant of the other ten commandments. Gods desire for us is to become more like Christ and the ten commandments were the essence of Christs charactor. Study Christs life in the gospels and you will see Jesus kept all the ten commandments... even the sabbath, which the Bible says was his custom. No we are not perfect and will continue to fall until he returns and restores us

[wewinintheend]

you can explain away any false prophecy by saying it is condiditonal, the fact is she NEVER got it right! and God did not repent of coming nor did he tell her in a vision when he was coming then change His mind. She is anything but humble, she is arrogant and self serving. this might be your chance to jump in there and defend her with ONE prophecy that has come to light...I'll wait here.

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

My friend the way you are describing EGW is sounding a lot like your attitude towards Adventism.

Kool. Have you read in Great Controversy that Church and state will form and that sunday worship will be enforced? Do we see signs of that happening today?

[wewinintheend]

show me the Catholic Church or the pope ANYWHERE in scripture.

[wewinintheend]

before you say these are "conditional" (which they are not; no conditional clauses are contained in ANY of the prophecies) note the questions was: "what prophecies?". In an earlier statement you said "she never claimed to be a prophetess"...you went to get lengths to explain WHY she IS a prophetess in your video!!

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

I believe she is a prophet but she does not claim to be one. That is showing a sign of humility. In the Bible we see in many cases the prophets did not want to be prophets and she is showing the same attitude.

I see you don't understand conditional prophecies. Isaiah prophecy to Hezekiah was a conditional because he repented, Jonah's prophecy to Nineveh was condition, 40 days they were to be destroyed. Nothing about BUT IF you repent, 40 days and it is over. Were they destroyed?

[wewinintheend]

prove from scripture the Catholic Church is the beast in Rev 13. You are so blinded by the SDA doctrine and hate towards to Catholic Church you are not able to process simple scripture. I am not a Catholic, Baptist, SDA, JW, Morman or anything else. I am a Child of the Most High, a daughter of The King. Religion is the problem, Christ is the Answer.

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

"prove from scripture the Catholic Church is the beast in Rev 13"

Do you want me to prove it because you just said next that I am blinded? Because by that next statement, you have already closed your mind

[courag1]

@Jondadon2006 If you think when the pope puts an idol on the altar that this is okay with you, and you don't know its wrong, then no matter what anyone says to you will be taken from your heart because you don't recognize idolatry whatsoever, how can you say you see anything?

[Jondadon2006]

@courag1

sorry I don't understand

[courag1]

@Jondadon2006 Pope Paul had every cult, every religion in to Rome for a grand religious fest. Shawmen danced, people prayed to all their foreign gods & even were allowed to set up their idols on the Roman Catholic altars. The pope approved of it or it wouldn't have happened. In order to have a visual so you can bow down & worship Catholic saints & pray to them changed your catechism, removed the commandment against idolatry so then the last commandment was split to 2. So you still have 10.

[Jondadon2006]

@courag1

Oh my! Thats serious! Yes we still have the 10. That is truly the beast in Dan 7 and Rev 13!

[courag1]

@Jondadon2006 That is just one of the pieces. One could say that what happened in the Inquisition was only then not now, but then are there Vatican genocides in the 20th century too? They are there, but due to their power and influence, they are not widely publicized but search YouTube for Vatican Genocides. One happened in Croatia during WWII carried out by the Utasha. Even Croats given the opportunity to convert were killed. St. Barthomew's Eve massacre, in France, is another one.

[courag1]

@courag1 Correction: St. Bartholomew's Eve.

[wewinintheend]

my friend, someday I hope you will open your eyes to the truth and realize you have been douped by the devil himself. Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:you know, when you think about it, there are alot of similarities between the SDA and the Catholic church,both are lead by women, require keeping laws, worship angels,both will be here in the tribulation, maybe you guys can work it out then

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

Col 2:16 read verse 14 to get the context. This is the ceremonial laws referred in Lev 23 not the Sabbath of the 10'C

My eyes are already open. Just think why neglect a commandment that says remember?

Your comparison does not make sense because the catholic church is the beast according to prophecy in Rev 13. If anything, every other church that upholds a papal day is connected to Rome.

[wewinintheend]

GOD TOLD HIM TO KILL AND EAT UNCLEAN THINGS!!!!! what don't you get about that?!

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

Ok lets see what happened right after the vision

Act 10:17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean,

Why?? Because He knew God said that unclean is against himself.

Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

So clear nothing about meat

[wewinintheend]

I watched your video "proving" egwhite was a prophet. in a series of 8 or 9 it took 7 to lay the ground work of what a prophet is...then you just kind of slipped ellen and john and a few others in there. Not ONE stitch of "proof" (like fulfilled prophecy declared by white herself that came to be...that would have "proved" it in the first video!! I have read some of her prophecies and they are absurd, so pretty safe to say, not intersted in your take on Michael...

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

What prophecies?

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

MY friend it sounds like you have a personal problem with SDA, I actually made a video about michael the archangel and this video is about EGW not about Michael.

[wewinintheend]

ok, where did God SHOW him that?! yes, in the vision with the sheet!!!!!

[wewinintheend]

I've read the whole book! but that particular part of the chapter does not fit your doctrine. I know, I went to ONE "Vegetarian Cooking Classe" and it was an indoctination class on how bad milk and cows where for you, complete with slides and video!!  more manipulation...

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

Read it again and please show me that Peter says that the interpretation means we can eat unclean meats

[wewinintheend]

vs 12 a bunch of unclean stuff 13 a voice rise Peter, kill and eat 14 BUT PETER SAID Not so Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common OR UNCLEAN...

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

"common OR UNCLEAN" Key words. Now what did Peter say clearly???

"but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean." No mention of meat, the Vision was symbolic my friend. You can't be hard hearted in this. There is nothing mentioned of meat. God does not change. This is private invitation

[wewinintheend]

surely you missed the whole point in acts 10. acts 10:10-17 is all in preparation for meeting with Cornelius who was not a Jew (unclean)...thru the vision, God told Peter that no FOOD was unclean to rise kill and eat! please be honest.

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

But Peter did not say that now did He? No He said not call any MAN common or unclean not foods. You are adding to scripture

[wewinintheend]

1Tim4:3"Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer." again, go back and read it again, remember the creaping things in the sheet, they were clean cause God said they where clean! He told Paul don't call them unclean!

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

Sanctified by the word of God and prayer. You cannot neglect this.

Also the sheet, what does Peter say about this?

Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Does He mention meat? Nothing about meat. This is private interpretation you are spreading here. God died to cleanse us not unclean foods

[wewinintheend]

"Then I saw [that] those whose hands are now engaged in making up the breach and are standing in the gaps, but that have formally since '44 broken the commandments of God and have so far followed the pope as to keep the first day instead of the seventh,would have to go down into the water and be baptized in the faith of the shut door and keeping the commandments of God,and in the faith of Jesus [who is] coming to sit on the throne of His father David, and to redeem Israel"is this NOT a prophcey?

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

No...Read the whole passage

[wewinintheend]

@wewinintheend if you would not call it a prophecy, then what would you call it?! Ellen is saying she had a vision and that is was from God concerning a future event...of course it never happened and it never will, so it would stand to reason you would not want to call it a prophecy...

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

Have you read the chapter?

[wewinintheend]

The time that you are not willing to investegate truth anymore, is the time I would be concerned for your soul? Are you will to "investegate truth" outside the Aventest religon. Study "the spirit of prophecy", but study the bible, you might learn something about the TRUE Spirit of Prophecy which is none other than Jesus Christ Himself. Rev 19:10 ...and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. AMEN!!!! GO JESUS!!!

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

My friend if you had read the Spirit of Prophecy manifested in the remnant church in Rev 12:17 you will see that she has mentioned countless times that we need to go back to the Bible and the Bible alone.

[wewinintheend]

ellen says that is what we need to do but then does just the opposite. she is a false prophet and would have been stoned, rightly so. her doctrine is divisive and distructive and in conflict with scripture. I do not need to study her error to find truth, the truth is found in scripture WITHOUT ellen's epoleptic visions.

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

"ellen says that is what we need to do but then does just the opposite. "

What was it?

[wewinintheend]

@Jondadon2006 she says anger is sin, the bible say be ye angry and sin not; she says you must follow a strict diet and refrain from certain foods, the bible says all things are sanctified by prayer with thankgiving; the bible says suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence, well we don't even have to go there....

[Jondadon2006]

@wewinintheend

1. Where did she say that about anger?

2. Keyword about food, SANCTIFIED by the WORD and prayer. Unclean foods are not set apart which means sanctified

3. Where in the Bible does it talk of women prophets? Also she did not even claim to be a prophet

[Jondadon2006]

You still have not even said what she did

"ellen says that is what we need to do but then does just the opposite. she is a false prophet" (Your quote)

[williamta01]

Amen.

[spoke777]

She talks a lot about Jesus.

[hdiylove7]

Amen. Sharing National Sunday Law by A. Jan Marcussen!!!!!!!!!!