After all, if it is wrong, evil or stupid to use our evolutionary advantage of intelligence to refrain from causing unnecessary pain, it should be equally wrong to use that same intelligence to create vehicles to cut down on our natural traveling time.
To all angry omnivores: Yes, it is true that ancient humans were meat and plant eaters. However, we of now have the technology to not have to. Therefore, I will start eating meat again when you stop using cars, computers and elevators. Ok?
ALso, I would rather eta the flesh of an animal that is bred to be eaten because I am a natural omnivore & be full most of the day, than stuff myself with a bowl of nuts, 5 appples, a huge ass salad, tons of tofu, & a giant thermos of soy milk, just to keep my metabolism going for about 2 hours.
Maybe you help animals by not eating meat, maybe.. but if cows don't get milked they get sick & feel a lot of pain, & if all the milk they produce due to selective breeding is fed to calves, calves get diahreah. I know. Dumbasses...
This was a stupid survey fake or not the point is someone is clearly not happy because they are eating crap. Being a vegan doesn't mean you'll be full of energy and shit like that, this only happens when you get all your nutrients. It's so easy to be a fat vegan because there are loads of junk vegan food. I know this. I'm a vegan but I eat healthy and in fact I'm always full of energy which I have to suppress because I have to study. Silly video.
@Sportnikeandhunter: Maybe you should post a video of you actually hunting and killing animals so people could see where you're coming from. Maybe they wouldn't be so sympathetic. Excuse me if you already have but I've not seen it.
@Sportnikeandhunter: This video is intentionally misleading people in to thinking that vegans are ill. "This is a survey done to see how many complaints vegans say are wrong with them while their on a long diet of not eating meat.... and being a vegan is supposed to help?" but you know full-well this is NOT a standard healthy vegan diet.
At Sportbikeandhunter: One thing you often post to vegans is "If you think you're not killing anything, you're dead wrong." I know, just by being on the planet, I cause the death of animals. The difference between a vegan and a non-vegan is that vegans try not to kill whereas non-vegans kill when it's not necessary and hunters kill with full knowledge that they're killing.
HA this sounds like me before veganism, not after. perhaps the majority vegans on this highly reputable survey only ate a limited range of foods? and as for the supplements remark- vegans are meant to take b12 suppliments- or foods that have it 'added'.. you cant really get b12 otherwise. incidentally this may be the reason for the memory issues ect since b12 is needed for mental function
@jessicalovestheused Do you NEVER eat anything that says "With added X"? You probably do. In the UK, the government has issued a statement saying that Vitamin D are low in the GENERAL POPULATION and so many manufacturers are now ADDING vitamin D to their ingredients! That's a fact.
@jessicalovestheused As for the comment about B12: On one hand you're claiming we have to take vitamin pills and then on the other we have memory problems because of deficiency in B12. That's some what contadictory because if we're taking B12 pills why would we have a deficiency or memory problems cause by it?
I am vegan its cold outside I'm nice and warm,my skin is clear and soft, i'm not hungry i had a big dinner (stuffed zucchini it was so good) I actully don't like cheese that much or milk for that matter, and tell me this if humans need milk so much than why are 70% of the people lacoste intolerant. Meat is disgusting I don't want to eat flesh so close to my own it is repulsive.
hmm...sportbikeandhunter...i can see why you would be opposed to veganism. i went vegan about 2 months ago, and i don't miss anything about exploiting animals at all, all of my medical problems have diminished, and i feel much more alert and far less...sluggish....perhaps you should list all of the sites you got your research from, so we can weigh Fact, instead of Crap...
BAHAHA, all this is absolutely made up on the spot, im vegan and gurantee im bigger, stronger, faster and healthier than 90% of omnivores, although I do not follow a raw vegan diet. A raw vegan diet requires an immense amount of research and understanding to be healthy. It absolutely is, but you really need to know what your doing.
I've not eaten animal flesh for 34 years. I'm vegan but not following this crazy Bible diet. I don't suffer from any of the above probelms. In fact, I don't have any health problems. I would suggest these people take a vegan dietary supplemt at least but I'm sure they'd insist that God forbids it since it's a naturally-occuring food source. The only argument against that would be, "Do you think God wants you to be ill?"
really? this is all news to me. I've been vegan for 2 years and I've never experienced any of these symptoms. Maybe it's cuz I'm not a "raw vegan", I eat cooked food (including white bread) but just no animal products. Who sponsored this "survey" anyway?
@apocalist420 LMFAO!!! Are you vegans that damn stupid that you dont even remember what the fuck you's read in the beginning of the video??? Like seriously!!! Oh i dont know, maybe it's the 2nd fuckin slide in this video that says it's based on the bible... Here are the exact words..." These results are from people who strictly follow the Gen. 1:29 diet (85% raw, 100% vegan in the long term".....Is it really that difficult to understand????
@tejo29se Can you people not read? This isn't the standard vegan diet...How much more fuckin simpler can i make it it CLEARLY says in the video "People who strictly follow the Gen 1:29 diet IN LONG TERM"
@sportbikeandhunter Apparantly you cannot. You need to compare with omnivores and meat eaters for it to be a successfull survey. Don't let it be a onesided survey.
@tejo29se Then why dont you make a video showing it? Dont be telling me what i should put in my video's when you dont have any fuckin videos, all you have is a fuckin penis cake for your featured video... that tells me a lot right there
This is the biggest loud of crap I’ve ever seen!! XDD I’m a vegan and none if this ‘so called survey is tro! I bet this “survey” was paid for by the meat industry……… FOLLOW THE MONEY AND YOU WILL ALWAYS FIND THE TRUTH!!! XDDDD
Everything you said is true Sportbikeandhunter. Its just these people are biased and they want to defend their point of view regardless. Veganism has no place in early humans, in any SUCCESSFUL and LASTING civilization. As a matter of fact, there are people on earth who couldn't survive if it wasn't for meat such as Eskimos in Alaska, or even moreso Mongolians who almost entirely consume dairy and meat from their herds.
@ScopedOUT2 Just to let you know that early humans didn't have much choice to be vegan. They had to eat whatever they could. In today's modern society, in Western cultures at least, we have a choice because we have supermarkets. We no longer need meat in many parts of the world. I'm sure in some of the planet, they really don't have a choice but in North America and Europe, most of us do.
Remember, in early human civilisations, they didn't have many things we take for granted today.
Dude i know a lot of vegans they rarely get sick... although your "vegan" friends may not know how to eat... but I'm pretty sure you're just full of it.
It's a well known fact that the Vegan diet or a plant based diet has vast number of health benefits. While meat and other animal products are linked to a number of diseases such as heart disease and cancer. Ask a nutritionist. This Video is the biggest load of bullshit i have ever seen. Clearly a home job.
I guess the improved medicine doesn't increase chances of survival right?? Tell the cavemen that lived off of mammoth's that a vegetarian diet would have worked better....Oh wait, you couldnt grow a garden in the ice age :)
The Ice Age is over so it's irrelevant but my point was you seem to imply that those who propose not eating meat are fools yet Einstein proposed it and your reply had nothing to do with my comment.
SO Einstein proposed it means that it MUST BE TRUE right??from my understandings Einstein was not a vegetarian during his most productive years. Rather, it appears that he practiced it himself for the last year of his life.
they used their tusks as shovels to clear snow from the ground and reach the vegetation buried below, and they also migrated to find food, and the cavemen followed the mammoths for food aka the mammoths
It is total shit for a standard vegan diet but for the religious people who have a very restrictive diet, it may be true especially for young children.
I've been vegan for 32 years (I'm 41) and perfectly healthy.
no we're not at the top of the food chain, thats why everyday when i go walking out to my motorcycle i almost get taken out by a bear... LMAO DUMBASS!! why do you think animals run when the see us now days?? because we're not top of the food chain?? LMAO!! nice try dumbass
so it's more humane to let the animal suffer with mange? starvation and disease, when you know that you could stop its suffering???
If you TRUELY think that humans and animals are equal, then you should be willing to let your house turn into dust for when the termites get into the wood work.... but wait you wouldnt do such a thing... HYPROCRITE!!!!
ANd i can say the same about me being a hunter... so unless you wanta get owned i suggest that you crawl into your pittaful POS appartment and shut the hell up
You say being vegan is healthier however you allow bugs to crawl freely through your home? having them on your dining utensils and toothbrush and other? yeah sure it's healthier.... Vegetarian iss heathier statistically vegani is not
LOL you're stupid as hell. Humans originated with weapons from the other HOMO species of the homo genus already having the knowledge of certain tools. we evolved using tools and our bodies adapted to it. Our natural weapon is our brain that allows us to build such things.
@explosivediarrhea100 Our brains also allowed us to realise that we don't need to eat and @sportbikeandhunter Our brains allowed us not to title a video 'Vegan Diet Survey' in blantant attempt at trying to claim that a standard vegan diet is very harmful. I can't believe you haven't deleted this after all this time. I have not eaten meat for 34 years now and have NO health problems. This video is an attempt to make vegans look bad.
It's highly misleading; bordering on out right lying.
@FunVegan Just like all your (not you specifically) bullshit hunting video... How does it feel for once?? To damn bad mine IS BACKED BY PROOF!!! And how do i know that you're not lieing to me?? How the hell do i know if you have foggy toughts or feel cold 90% of the time? How do i know if you have lack of stamina?Tell you 2 things that all you nut cases prove... Grouchy and always pissed off
@sportbikeandhunter We're grouchy and pissed off when people deliberately use a weird form of diet to put down the whole of veganism. If you added a footnote that said, "This is a diet as followed by Genesis 1:29 and not a standard vegan diet.", then I'd be 100% happy.
The fact that you hunt is irrelevant. You're right, though, I don't have any anti-hunting videos on my channel.
I think the people in this survey are probably lacking vitamin B12. I'm not because I read the ingredients list.
@FunVegan the part about it being a Gen. 1:29 diet is in the damn video, watch the damn video once and you'd see what i'm talking about... What the hell is the sense of adding a footnote that says the same thing? Most people dont click the 'more info' to begin with.. or since YouTube did this new layout hit the little double arrow key down
I have eaten many types of meat. All delicious by the way. but other than that, how do you think i got the meat? humans killed and prepared it. Thus, we are on top of the food chain because we can USE the guns. ask any dumbfuck cow or chicken to use a gun and they will smell it and walk away. They are too dumb to defend themselves from us and they dont need protectors because they dont have a brain like us and their only function IN THEIR ENITRE LIFE is to reproduce
I couldn't a toss about videos about hunting. I came to this video because I typed 'vegan' in the search box. Not 'hunting'.
Look at my videos on my channel. Not a thing about hunting. I'm not interested in it.
Unlike you who is obviously interested in lying about veganism. I don't a single vegan who has ANY of those health problems. I know a lot of vegans. I'm a member of a group.
If they were very, very sick, they probably didn't have a clue about nutrition and it was fuck all to do with veganism. The diet in this video is a Biblical diet based on religion and nothing to do with moderm veganism. In fact, the word vegan was not even known in those times. Nor was the vegan philosophy.
Firstly, this form of veganism is not a standard vegan diet. I don't say that omnivores are all unhealthy because they all eat fast food constantly, because that would be generalizing, even though the ratio of vegans and Gen 1:29 vegans is lower than the average omnivores and omnivores who regularly eat fast food.
Second, some of those categories of discomfort would be highly common in both vegans, of any kind, and omnivores.
TheChoujinVirus, you said, "who the hell follows the bible as a universal diet book?" The nutters that follow the diet in this video. Not true vegans.
Wow, way to make the most ridiculous fucking red herring in the history of the world. No shit eating McDonalds three times a day for a month is bad for you. You should be ashamed for making such a preposterous remark.
The point I was making is the Genesis 1:29 diet is the vegan equivalent of eating nothing but McDonald's for every meal. The diet mentioned in this video is not a 'full vegan diet'. It's extremely limiting and it's no more surprising that they got ill than someone on the Supersize Me diet.
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food."
In other words, you can't eat things like potatoes, vegan ice cream, vegan burgers, vegan sausages, soya milk, vegan chocolate, coconut milk, carrots, etc. etc. Without these things you'll lack nutrients.
I have been vegan for 30 years. Because of this video, I decided to have a afull heealth check. Heart, liver, kidneys, blood neutrients, blood pressure, heart bea. Everything. They found nothing, NOTHING wrong.
This video is misleading (possibly intentionally) because it's not talking about 'normal veganism'. It's talking about a diet mentioned in the Geneis 1:29.
It's oviously sportbikeandhunter's way of claiming eating meat is a better diet.
I'd just like to point out that this is the diet according to Genesis 1:29 and not the diet most vegans follow. Most vegans can remain very healthy. The Genesis 1:29 diet is very restrictive.
I think you've got your point across. Correct me if I'm wrong but you think it's unhealthy. You think that they are all trying to stop you from hunting and think you're 'evil'.
I'll be honest, you probably cause less distress to the animal than they do in the factory farms and I don't think you're evil.
Thank you, I guess I'm just a little pissy when it comes to this stuff because i'm used to dealing with blackeyedpea10 all the time. She really pisses me off at times... If you were to get to know her you'd understand were I'm coming from
Were am I getting what numbers? the hunting numbers? or the % numbers??? the % numbers came from 2 doctors that have studied veganism for the past 30 some years
OK, so what your 1 out of about 13 million vegans that say that they have NO PROBLEMS,,, great, good for you, keep up the good work,,,, I'm not wanting to argue with you, I'm just trying to get my point across
yeah and out of that 95% of non hunters, 75% support hunting,,, So that only leaves 20% that don't support hunting,,,, and probably > 17% of that 20% are the fuckwits that say hunting is cruel but yet have no problem with going out and buying meat at the store..........so any way you put it vegan/vegetarianism is always going to be the minority.
My doctor gave me a full health check and I was fine. Correct weight, all nutrients in my blood, fine, blood pressure fine. Everything.
This is total bullshit.
I've just read your channel description. You're obviously the sort of person who will believe any bullshit about veganism that 'proves it' to be bad. Why don't you fuck off & live your own life & let others live theirs?
You can put whatever bullshit comments on my channel and add me to your 'owned' list but you will never own me.
And your obviously the sort of person who will believe any bullshit about hunting and meat that "proves it" bad.... So why DONT YOU do us all a favor and FUCK OFF bitch..... Oh and how long have you been a vegan??? 1 month???? I'm fuckin sick and tired of you Fuckers trying to tell me how to live my life,,,,, SO go fuck off you minority
bull shit. vegans can be unhealthy just like anyone else... I call them CARB HOGS. because after you cut out the meat... youre left with a ton of carbs.... raw vegan of several years here... and I dont have any problems. (and fuck supplements too)
I am my own best source... my survey on my body says since I've gone vegan I have lost unwanted pounds, have increased stamina, minor body aches have descreased, my sleep patterns have improved and I have more energy than I have in decades. Oh... but my tolerance level for silly "surveys" and defensive meat-eaters... that is definately on the decline. It's great to be vegan - give it a try! :)
I love how I will give up my sites, yet when i ask you guys, all you ever give me is shit like wikipedia (wow any freckin body can change the stuff on there) or some dumbass site that isnt even referenced by anyone
@sportbikeandhunter: You played this off as an average vegan diet by titling this video as 'Vegan Diet Survey' and passing it off as proof that a vegan diet is 'unhealthy.'
There's ONE of those symptoms wrong with me and that's burning eyes. Comes to show that this was all a big lie a deserved 1 star. Good try though, senseless hunters....
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Evironmentally conscious? Hell I do it because the meat tastes better. It's no trouble....I make a phone call and the next day I have a freezer full of meat.
I think a big part is you idiots think your so much better then hunters...... "oh i'm gona live 150 years" thats why the idiot died at 92..... "cancerproof your body"......Lets bitch that our vegan is WAY better then hunting.... thats why we have more problems then meat eaters.....
I can tell you now people who eat red meat are more likely to develop cancer and heart disease than those who don't. And it's spelt guarantee - thought you said you went to school?
You have a source for this??? I'll be waiting for a PM... Is spelling all that you got on me??? I could do the same to you.... You don't start a sentence with 'and'
Where's YOUR source, deary? Because either I'm a bionic woman or your statistics are bunk. I haven't met *anyone* who's experienced negative effects of a balanced vegan diet.
Yup you've never met anyone who had negative effects of a BALANCED vegan diet..... because their probably taking suplimentry pills for the lack of stuff that they got
1) None of the vegans I know take supplements. Even 811 raw vegans like durianriders (on YouTube) don't take supplements. I prefer to get my nutrients from food, not pills. ;)
2) The vegans that were surveyed could have easily take supplements as well. It doesn't make a difference.
yup because you once again you don't have any sources, when did I say anything about "everyday is a school day"?? Plus I type and speak american NOT english.
First off, you can't complain if he doesn't provide you with a source when you refuse to do the same. You should have included the source in the side bar, if not the video as well. Please stop acting like a chicken shit and give us a source for this study. LOL
Sine you supposedly live in the UK, you should know what English is, American and not a real language, but people that live in the states don't ever use prefixes, pronouns,,, people that speak English will always sound like British, because every damn prefix is were it's supossed to be,,,,, no american that has lived their whole life in american will speak english, they speak american.....
Yes I know that American is not a language, but american don't speak English, americans speak american,,,,,if you speak english, your gona sound like a Brittian, and hardly any american sounds like a Brittian, people why speak English but prefixes and nouns and the correct spot, EVERY time, people that speak american, do NOT put prefixes and nouns and every thing else in the correct spot every time.....
"americans don't speak English" LOL okay if according to you Americans dont speak English and American is not a language then what language do you speak?
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That's meat-eaters propoganda. None of that is true. We vegans are still alive so it must be healthy.................hmmmmmm, what were we talking about?
Haha, you always say it's wrong, and we give you evidence, remember the evidence I gave you? Then, oh, just had to ignore that when it contradicted with your idea.
I'm saying, if this is propaganda (not propoganda) as you say, then prove it, give us links, give us the "real" information. You say this is all bs, but you never seem to prove it... yet we are proving it, and you aren't.... what does that show? Give us proof. Prove it.
One more thing, they can not be by biased sources, they have to be from legitimate sources. Such as mine were from a government survey. Not from sites like petakillsanimals, haha a site by cigarette companies (peta protests against cigarette experiments with monkeys) so hence biased, the same goes with consumerforfreedom, a large amount of money they receive is from that cigarette company
You missed my point totally. I'm trying to get you to support your arguments, :O a big shocker.
"You say this is all bs, but you never seem to prove it." and at first... I was saying that I support my arguments with something called evidence, just like when I owned you about the 70-90% of grain blah blah blah. SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENTS.
You are confusing haha, you sound like a vegan, who goes around helping other vegans by improving their arguments. I just may have figured you out ;).
After all, if it is wrong, evil or stupid to use our evolutionary advantage of intelligence to refrain from causing unnecessary pain, it should be equally wrong to use that same intelligence to create vehicles to cut down on our natural traveling time.
thylacinegurl 3 weeks ago
To all angry omnivores: Yes, it is true that ancient humans were meat and plant eaters. However, we of now have the technology to not have to. Therefore, I will start eating meat again when you stop using cars, computers and elevators. Ok?
thylacinegurl 3 weeks ago
source, please?
lordfredfine 1 month ago
ALso, I would rather eta the flesh of an animal that is bred to be eaten because I am a natural omnivore & be full most of the day, than stuff myself with a bowl of nuts, 5 appples, a huge ass salad, tons of tofu, & a giant thermos of soy milk, just to keep my metabolism going for about 2 hours.
TapionPinosha 2 months ago
Maybe you help animals by not eating meat, maybe.. but if cows don't get milked they get sick & feel a lot of pain, & if all the milk they produce due to selective breeding is fed to calves, calves get diahreah. I know. Dumbasses...
TapionPinosha 2 months ago
555 = 666 watch out
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
This was a stupid survey fake or not the point is someone is clearly not happy because they are eating crap. Being a vegan doesn't mean you'll be full of energy and shit like that, this only happens when you get all your nutrients. It's so easy to be a fat vegan because there are loads of junk vegan food. I know this. I'm a vegan but I eat healthy and in fact I'm always full of energy which I have to suppress because I have to study. Silly video.
dazedgal 3 months ago
BULLSHITT !
monellasweeting 4 months ago
@Sportnikeandhunter: Maybe you should post a video of you actually hunting and killing animals so people could see where you're coming from. Maybe they wouldn't be so sympathetic. Excuse me if you already have but I've not seen it.
MrStokeGuy 4 months ago
@Sportnikeandhunter: This video is intentionally misleading people in to thinking that vegans are ill. "This is a survey done to see how many complaints vegans say are wrong with them while their on a long diet of not eating meat.... and being a vegan is supposed to help?" but you know full-well this is NOT a standard healthy vegan diet.
MrStokeGuy 4 months ago
At Sportbikeandhunter: One thing you often post to vegans is "If you think you're not killing anything, you're dead wrong." I know, just by being on the planet, I cause the death of animals. The difference between a vegan and a non-vegan is that vegans try not to kill whereas non-vegans kill when it's not necessary and hunters kill with full knowledge that they're killing.
MrStokeGuy 4 months ago
HA this sounds like me before veganism, not after. perhaps the majority vegans on this highly reputable survey only ate a limited range of foods? and as for the supplements remark- vegans are meant to take b12 suppliments- or foods that have it 'added'.. you cant really get b12 otherwise. incidentally this may be the reason for the memory issues ect since b12 is needed for mental function
jessicalovestheused 5 months ago
@jessicalovestheused Do you NEVER eat anything that says "With added X"? You probably do. In the UK, the government has issued a statement saying that Vitamin D are low in the GENERAL POPULATION and so many manufacturers are now ADDING vitamin D to their ingredients! That's a fact.
MrStokeGuy 4 months ago
@jessicalovestheused As for the comment about B12: On one hand you're claiming we have to take vitamin pills and then on the other we have memory problems because of deficiency in B12. That's some what contadictory because if we're taking B12 pills why would we have a deficiency or memory problems cause by it?
MrStokeGuy 4 months ago
I am vegan its cold outside I'm nice and warm,my skin is clear and soft, i'm not hungry i had a big dinner (stuffed zucchini it was so good) I actully don't like cheese that much or milk for that matter, and tell me this if humans need milk so much than why are 70% of the people lacoste intolerant. Meat is disgusting I don't want to eat flesh so close to my own it is repulsive.
TheLostSoulaod 6 months ago
Where are the stats of this "study"? how many people were studied, who conducted the study?
luvourmother 8 months ago
hmm...sportbikeandhunter...i can see why you would be opposed to veganism. i went vegan about 2 months ago, and i don't miss anything about exploiting animals at all, all of my medical problems have diminished, and i feel much more alert and far less...sluggish....perhaps you should list all of the sites you got your research from, so we can weigh Fact, instead of Crap...
isisskyy1 9 months ago 2
BAHAHA, all this is absolutely made up on the spot, im vegan and gurantee im bigger, stronger, faster and healthier than 90% of omnivores, although I do not follow a raw vegan diet. A raw vegan diet requires an immense amount of research and understanding to be healthy. It absolutely is, but you really need to know what your doing.
nobloodyusernamesfre 11 months ago
I've not eaten animal flesh for 34 years. I'm vegan but not following this crazy Bible diet. I don't suffer from any of the above probelms. In fact, I don't have any health problems. I would suggest these people take a vegan dietary supplemt at least but I'm sure they'd insist that God forbids it since it's a naturally-occuring food source. The only argument against that would be, "Do you think God wants you to be ill?"
marcluc1988 1 year ago
really? this is all news to me. I've been vegan for 2 years and I've never experienced any of these symptoms. Maybe it's cuz I'm not a "raw vegan", I eat cooked food (including white bread) but just no animal products. Who sponsored this "survey" anyway?
pulsedrop 1 year ago
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GeminianButterfly 1 year ago
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GeminianButterfly 1 year ago
@apocalist420 well glad that i could help :)
sportbikeandhunter 1 year ago
@apocalist420 LMFAO!!! Are you vegans that damn stupid that you dont even remember what the fuck you's read in the beginning of the video??? Like seriously!!! Oh i dont know, maybe it's the 2nd fuckin slide in this video that says it's based on the bible... Here are the exact words..." These results are from people who strictly follow the Gen. 1:29 diet (85% raw, 100% vegan in the long term".....Is it really that difficult to understand????
sportbikeandhunter 1 year ago
@sportbikeandhunter I am atheist so had no idea what gen 1.29 was.
nobloodyusernamesfre 11 months ago
I've just posted a video response to this. Let's see if you accept it.
TheSuperVegan 1 year ago
What about omnivores? I bet they have the same symptoms?
Before I went vegetarian I had some of the symptoms you mentioned in the video.
Why didn't you make a comparison with meat eaters and omnivores?
tejo29se 1 year ago
@tejo29se Can you people not read? This isn't the standard vegan diet...How much more fuckin simpler can i make it it CLEARLY says in the video "People who strictly follow the Gen 1:29 diet IN LONG TERM"
sportbikeandhunter 1 year ago
@sportbikeandhunter Apparantly you cannot. You need to compare with omnivores and meat eaters for it to be a successfull survey. Don't let it be a onesided survey.
tejo29se 1 year ago
@tejo29se Then why dont you make a video showing it? Dont be telling me what i should put in my video's when you dont have any fuckin videos, all you have is a fuckin penis cake for your featured video... that tells me a lot right there
sportbikeandhunter 1 year ago
@sportbikeandhunter That is just ONE of the 800 videos I have. One video does not difine who I am.
YOU made the video about a survey, so YOU have to make it proper.
tejo29se 1 year ago
@tejo29se Yeah and it's your featured video
Yeah you're right I made the video, ABOUT THE STRICT VEGAN GEN 1:29 DIET,, Vegan diet has NOTHING to do with regular meat eating people
sportbikeandhunter 1 year ago
This is the biggest loud of crap I’ve ever seen!! XDD I’m a vegan and none if this ‘so called survey is tro! I bet this “survey” was paid for by the meat industry……… FOLLOW THE MONEY AND YOU WILL ALWAYS FIND THE TRUTH!!! XDDDD
FalineWhiteTailDoe 1 year ago
Everything you said is true Sportbikeandhunter. Its just these people are biased and they want to defend their point of view regardless. Veganism has no place in early humans, in any SUCCESSFUL and LASTING civilization. As a matter of fact, there are people on earth who couldn't survive if it wasn't for meat such as Eskimos in Alaska, or even moreso Mongolians who almost entirely consume dairy and meat from their herds.
ScopedOUT2 1 year ago
@ScopedOUT2 Just to let you know that early humans didn't have much choice to be vegan. They had to eat whatever they could. In today's modern society, in Western cultures at least, we have a choice because we have supermarkets. We no longer need meat in many parts of the world. I'm sure in some of the planet, they really don't have a choice but in North America and Europe, most of us do.
Remember, in early human civilisations, they didn't have many things we take for granted today.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
and they say nothing bad happens. Face it people, we need meat in our diet at least 1-2 times a week.
explosivediarrhea100 1 year ago
Dude i know a lot of vegans they rarely get sick... although your "vegan" friends may not know how to eat... but I'm pretty sure you're just full of it.
tregglekid 1 year ago
It's a well known fact that the Vegan diet or a plant based diet has vast number of health benefits. While meat and other animal products are linked to a number of diseases such as heart disease and cancer. Ask a nutritionist. This Video is the biggest load of bullshit i have ever seen. Clearly a home job.
tregglekid 1 year ago
Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. ~Albert Einstein
But obviously, meat-eaters are more intelligent than Einstein. (Irony)
marcluc1988 2 years ago
I guess the improved medicine doesn't increase chances of survival right?? Tell the cavemen that lived off of mammoth's that a vegetarian diet would have worked better....Oh wait, you couldnt grow a garden in the ice age :)
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter
The Ice Age is over so it's irrelevant but my point was you seem to imply that those who propose not eating meat are fools yet Einstein proposed it and your reply had nothing to do with my comment.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
SO Einstein proposed it means that it MUST BE TRUE right??from my understandings Einstein was not a vegetarian during his most productive years. Rather, it appears that he practiced it himself for the last year of his life.
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter
One question: Where did the mammoth get its food from if the ground was frozen over?
marcluc1988 2 years ago
they used their tusks as shovels to clear snow from the ground and reach the vegetation buried below, and they also migrated to find food, and the cavemen followed the mammoths for food aka the mammoths
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
If you saw a child being tortured wouldn't you be angry? That's why I'm angry with meat-eaters.
SuperAtheistBoy 2 years ago
LMAO so your comparing an animal to a human?? enough said dumbass... wanta continue this convo.. and your gona get owned
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter
They both feel pain and suffering.
SuperAtheistBoy 2 years ago
so that means that their equal or above humans?? and what grade are you in kid?
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
It is total shit for a standard vegan diet but for the religious people who have a very restrictive diet, it may be true especially for young children.
I've been vegan for 32 years (I'm 41) and perfectly healthy.
FunVegan 2 years ago
guess you still haven't realized that the "standard" vegan diet isn't the same as the Gen. 1:29
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter Of course I have so why have you called it "Vegan Diet Survey" and not "Genesis 1:29 Survey"?
FunVegan 2 years ago
@FunVegan..... not everyone knows what a "Genesis 1:29 diet" is
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter It's a VERY misleading title.
FunVegan 2 years ago
@FunVegan
I agree with FunVegan, it's misleading and intentionally, I believe.
You're trying to alienate people to vegans and veganism by uploading this crap.
A balanced vegan diet is healthier than a balanced diet consisting of animal products.
I note that you're a hunter and want to make those who are opposed to what you do look like sick, weak, idiots who need to eat meat.
SuperAtheistBoy 2 years ago
And how did we climb to the top of the food chain?? by eating grass? guess again there
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter
You're not top of the food chain! You fool. Take away your gun or run out of bullets and you're weak and may be eaten by bears, lions, tigers etc.
I can't bear this nonsense about top of the food chain.
P.S. I don't eat grass.
SuperAtheistBoy 2 years ago
no we're not at the top of the food chain, thats why everyday when i go walking out to my motorcycle i almost get taken out by a bear... LMAO DUMBASS!! why do you think animals run when the see us now days?? because we're not top of the food chain?? LMAO!! nice try dumbass
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter
You need artificial weapons to kill. The bear could you witth his hands/pawws.
LOOK FUCKER. YOU KILL UNECCESARILY. THE BEAR DOES IT TO SURVIVE.
So who's the most cruel?
SuperAtheistBoy 2 years ago
so it's more humane to let the animal suffer with mange? starvation and disease, when you know that you could stop its suffering???
If you TRUELY think that humans and animals are equal, then you should be willing to let your house turn into dust for when the termites get into the wood work.... but wait you wouldnt do such a thing... HYPROCRITE!!!!
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter
You should see my appartment.
Why do you presume what I think and why I'm vegan. And why do you presume my appartment is not full of dust, cobweb and cockroaches?
You don't know me or why I'm vegan.
SuperAtheistBoy 2 years ago
ANd i can say the same about me being a hunter... so unless you wanta get owned i suggest that you crawl into your pittaful POS appartment and shut the hell up
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@SuperAtheistBoy
You say being vegan is healthier however you allow bugs to crawl freely through your home? having them on your dining utensils and toothbrush and other? yeah sure it's healthier.... Vegetarian iss heathier statistically vegani is not
explosivediarrhea100 1 year ago
@sportbikeandhunter
But like I said, "You bnre me." so I'll block all emails to my account with your name on so I don't get tempted to respond.
SuperAtheistBoy 2 years ago
Why to afraid that i'll own you because of your stupidity?? LMAO!! you ass pirates crack me up
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@SuperAtheistBoy
LOL you're stupid as hell. Humans originated with weapons from the other HOMO species of the homo genus already having the knowledge of certain tools. we evolved using tools and our bodies adapted to it. Our natural weapon is our brain that allows us to build such things.
explosivediarrhea100 1 year ago
@explosivediarrhea100 AGREED!
sportbikeandhunter 1 year ago
@explosivediarrhea100 Our brains also allowed us to realise that we don't need to eat and @sportbikeandhunter Our brains allowed us not to title a video 'Vegan Diet Survey' in blantant attempt at trying to claim that a standard vegan diet is very harmful. I can't believe you haven't deleted this after all this time. I have not eaten meat for 34 years now and have NO health problems. This video is an attempt to make vegans look bad.
It's highly misleading; bordering on out right lying.
FunVegan 1 year ago
@FunVegan Just like all your (not you specifically) bullshit hunting video... How does it feel for once?? To damn bad mine IS BACKED BY PROOF!!! And how do i know that you're not lieing to me?? How the hell do i know if you have foggy toughts or feel cold 90% of the time? How do i know if you have lack of stamina?Tell you 2 things that all you nut cases prove... Grouchy and always pissed off
sportbikeandhunter 1 year ago
@sportbikeandhunter We're grouchy and pissed off when people deliberately use a weird form of diet to put down the whole of veganism. If you added a footnote that said, "This is a diet as followed by Genesis 1:29 and not a standard vegan diet.", then I'd be 100% happy.
The fact that you hunt is irrelevant. You're right, though, I don't have any anti-hunting videos on my channel.
I think the people in this survey are probably lacking vitamin B12. I'm not because I read the ingredients list.
FunVegan 1 year ago
@FunVegan the part about it being a Gen. 1:29 diet is in the damn video, watch the damn video once and you'd see what i'm talking about... What the hell is the sense of adding a footnote that says the same thing? Most people dont click the 'more info' to begin with.. or since YouTube did this new layout hit the little double arrow key down
sportbikeandhunter 1 year ago
@sportbikeandhunter Yes. I noticed after watching again.
FunVegan 1 year ago
@FunVegan ALSO if you knew how the hell to read, i clearly STATED this survey is from people STRICTLY following the Gen1:29 diet in the LONG TERM
sportbikeandhunter 1 year ago
@SuperAtheistBoy
I have eaten many types of meat. All delicious by the way. but other than that, how do you think i got the meat? humans killed and prepared it. Thus, we are on top of the food chain because we can USE the guns. ask any dumbfuck cow or chicken to use a gun and they will smell it and walk away. They are too dumb to defend themselves from us and they dont need protectors because they dont have a brain like us and their only function IN THEIR ENITRE LIFE is to reproduce
explosivediarrhea100 1 year ago
@sportbikeandhunter
^epic win
explosivediarrhea100 1 year ago
Oh so i get shit for uploading something like this,, but it's ok that bunny humping faggots can upload complete bullshit?? think again!!
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter
Vegans get shit all the time. E.g. THIS video!
I'm bored with you. Goodbye.
SuperAtheistBoy 2 years ago
you forfit.... OWNED dumbass
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter
You've uploaded fucking bull shit. This video is the biggest anti-vegan load of lies I've seen on youtube. You should get an award.
I'm serious. It's full of shite.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
But it's ok for you POS's to upload all of your BULLSHIT about hunting??/ GROW THE FUCK UP!!!
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter
I couldn't a toss about videos about hunting. I came to this video because I typed 'vegan' in the search box. Not 'hunting'.
Look at my videos on my channel. Not a thing about hunting. I'm not interested in it.
Unlike you who is obviously interested in lying about veganism. I don't a single vegan who has ANY of those health problems. I know a lot of vegans. I'm a member of a group.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
Nice job blocking me you half-wit... Couldnt take a little pressure??
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
@sportbikeandhunter
I'll unblock you and your other channel because it's not because I can't take pressure. The conversation is boring. Okay.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
le cazzate che dice questo video!!! mai sentite tante tutte insieme...
puah!
cyblues 2 years ago
If they were very, very sick, they probably didn't have a clue about nutrition and it was fuck all to do with veganism. The diet in this video is a Biblical diet based on religion and nothing to do with moderm veganism. In fact, the word vegan was not even known in those times. Nor was the vegan philosophy.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
Firstly, this form of veganism is not a standard vegan diet. I don't say that omnivores are all unhealthy because they all eat fast food constantly, because that would be generalizing, even though the ratio of vegans and Gen 1:29 vegans is lower than the average omnivores and omnivores who regularly eat fast food.
Second, some of those categories of discomfort would be highly common in both vegans, of any kind, and omnivores.
Third, correlation does not imply causation.
bummercucumber 2 years ago
You obviously don't want to listen. You just want too attack. Have a nice day.
TheSuperVegan 2 years ago
Have you ever seen Supersize Me? Wow! Eating meat really does you good! NOT!
FunVegan 2 years ago
Supersize Me was about the damage of eating McDonalds, not about meat consumption you putz
TheChoujinVirus 2 years ago
You missed my point.
The diet in the above video is an unhealthy form of veganism based on Genesis 1:29.
And so is the McDonald's diet an unhealthy form of an omnivorous diet.
Now, do you understand?
TheSuperVegan 2 years ago
first, a 5 year old knows that McDonalds isn't really food, to compare it food is really sad
second, who the hell follows the bible as a universal diet book? It's a book of faith
the reason why it was mentioned because Adam and Eve were perfect in every way as the bible stated
TheChoujinVirus 2 years ago
TheChoujinVirus, you said, "who the hell follows the bible as a universal diet book?" The nutters that follow the diet in this video. Not true vegans.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
FunVegan: "Have you ever seen Supersize Me?"
Wow, way to make the most ridiculous fucking red herring in the history of the world. No shit eating McDonalds three times a day for a month is bad for you. You should be ashamed for making such a preposterous remark.
therush1892 2 years ago
The point I was making is the Genesis 1:29 diet is the vegan equivalent of eating nothing but McDonald's for every meal. The diet mentioned in this video is not a 'full vegan diet'. It's extremely limiting and it's no more surprising that they got ill than someone on the Supersize Me diet.
Maybe now, people will understand what I meant.
FunVegan 2 years ago
Genesis 1 : 29 reads as follows:
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food."
In other words, you can't eat things like potatoes, vegan ice cream, vegan burgers, vegan sausages, soya milk, vegan chocolate, coconut milk, carrots, etc. etc. Without these things you'll lack nutrients.
FunVegan 2 years ago
No FunVegan should not be ashamed because the above diet is as bad as a McDonald's diet.
You missed his point. A proper vegan diet IS healthy.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
What I am about tell you is the truth:
I have been vegan for 30 years. Because of this video, I decided to have a afull heealth check. Heart, liver, kidneys, blood neutrients, blood pressure, heart bea. Everything. They found nothing, NOTHING wrong.
This video is misleading (possibly intentionally) because it's not talking about 'normal veganism'. It's talking about a diet mentioned in the Geneis 1:29.
It's oviously sportbikeandhunter's way of claiming eating meat is a better diet.
FunVegan 2 years ago
I'd just like to point out that this is the diet according to Genesis 1:29 and not the diet most vegans follow. Most vegans can remain very healthy. The Genesis 1:29 diet is very restrictive.
FunVegan 2 years ago
I think you've got your point across. Correct me if I'm wrong but you think it's unhealthy. You think that they are all trying to stop you from hunting and think you're 'evil'.
I'll be honest, you probably cause less distress to the animal than they do in the factory farms and I don't think you're evil.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
Thank you, I guess I'm just a little pissy when it comes to this stuff because i'm used to dealing with blackeyedpea10 all the time. She really pisses me off at times... If you were to get to know her you'd understand were I'm coming from
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
I'll go check out her channel now. Bye!
marcluc1988 2 years ago
Do you mind me asking where you got these figures from? I'm genuinely interested?
marcluc1988 2 years ago
Were am I getting what numbers? the hunting numbers? or the % numbers??? the % numbers came from 2 doctors that have studied veganism for the past 30 some years
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
Why are we arguing over this? I don't believe this video is factual. I think it's anti-vegan propoganda.
If you ask nutrutionists, most of them say it is perfectly possible to live on a vegan diet with no health problems.
It is possible to live with meat healthily too.
But, from my experience, these figures sound wrong.
I don't have any of the health problems contained in the video. I'm a perfectly healthy guy.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
OK, so what your 1 out of about 13 million vegans that say that they have NO PROBLEMS,,, great, good for you, keep up the good work,,,, I'm not wanting to argue with you, I'm just trying to get my point across
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
I didn't say that there are more vegetarians than hunters. I said that hunters are in the minority too.
5% of the population is the minority. 95% are non-hunters.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
yeah and out of that 95% of non hunters, 75% support hunting,,, So that only leaves 20% that don't support hunting,,,, and probably > 17% of that 20% are the fuckwits that say hunting is cruel but yet have no problem with going out and buying meat at the store..........so any way you put it vegan/vegetarianism is always going to be the minority.
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
I don't about US figures but in the UK, most people are opposed to it.
Yes. They are hypocritical if they say hunting is cruel but pay for meat.
Well, in certain parts of the world, vegetarianism is the norm. E.g. parts of India.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
Oh my bad, I forgot that you were from the UK
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
I'd also like to point out that hunters are in the minority.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
LOL yeah ok,, you have anything to prove this???
vegans and vegitatians = 2.6%
Hunters=5%
LOL another stupid ass comment to add to my collection
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
My doctor gave me a full health check and I was fine. Correct weight, all nutrients in my blood, fine, blood pressure fine. Everything.
This is total bullshit.
I've just read your channel description. You're obviously the sort of person who will believe any bullshit about veganism that 'proves it' to be bad. Why don't you fuck off & live your own life & let others live theirs?
You can put whatever bullshit comments on my channel and add me to your 'owned' list but you will never own me.
GayVeganAtheist 2 years ago
And your obviously the sort of person who will believe any bullshit about hunting and meat that "proves it" bad.... So why DONT YOU do us all a favor and FUCK OFF bitch..... Oh and how long have you been a vegan??? 1 month???? I'm fuckin sick and tired of you Fuckers trying to tell me how to live my life,,,,, SO go fuck off you minority
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
I've been vegan for 12 years.
Did I tell you how to live your life? No!
I just said your video is bullshit.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
ANd do you have any proof to prove me wrong?? besides saying bullshit lies yourself??
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
How can I 'prove' I've been vegan for 12 years? I can't.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
I'm not talking your vegan years i'm talking that this video is bullshit.... Got any proof?? nope didn't think so
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
Being a vegan is actually a lot healthier than eating meat and dairy..the human body isn't built to eat meat..or even to take in dairy...
sXeXryanX 2 years ago
yeah thats why stistics show that, thats why babies can live on being vegan
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
Ment to say statistics
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
bull shit. vegans can be unhealthy just like anyone else... I call them CARB HOGS. because after you cut out the meat... youre left with a ton of carbs.... raw vegan of several years here... and I dont have any problems. (and fuck supplements too)
fr3d420 2 years ago
I am my own best source... my survey on my body says since I've gone vegan I have lost unwanted pounds, have increased stamina, minor body aches have descreased, my sleep patterns have improved and I have more energy than I have in decades. Oh... but my tolerance level for silly "surveys" and defensive meat-eaters... that is definately on the decline. It's great to be vegan - give it a try! :)
beaelliott 2 years ago
I love how I will give up my sites, yet when i ask you guys, all you ever give me is shit like wikipedia (wow any freckin body can change the stuff on there) or some dumbass site that isnt even referenced by anyone
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
Thank you, that's exactly why I asked for the link. I knew it couldn't be credible.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago 4
@kangarooelaine: That's a very good point, Elaine!!
@sportbikeandhunter: You played this off as an average vegan diet by titling this video as 'Vegan Diet Survey' and passing it off as proof that a vegan diet is 'unhealthy.'
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago 4
PM'd
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
"I doubt you would be so accepting of random unproven numbers if they supported the vegan position."
Of course they would, just they try to discredit my stuff which is proven from over 12 doctors
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
There's ONE of those symptoms wrong with me and that's burning eyes. Comes to show that this was all a big lie a deserved 1 star. Good try though, senseless hunters....
HuntersHuntDick 2 years ago
Yeah and how long have you been vegan? 1 year..... This is LONG TERM, not short term
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
Your taste buds might like grain fed....mine likes grass fed. Some think venison has an off taste...not me.
As far as the numbers go.....don't know, don't care....I'm not out to change your eating habits.
BTW...I think that survey was done by Michael Donaldson and Greg Westbrook
raultalbot7 2 years ago
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Evironmentally conscious? Hell I do it because the meat tastes better. It's no trouble....I make a phone call and the next day I have a freezer full of meat.
raultalbot7 2 years ago
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Only pork....It;s called "pigloo pork"......no grains, just grass, vegetables and fruit.
My chickens and eggs I get from a local farmer who let them free range. Chickens can't live on grass alone so he does feed them some grain.
raultalbot7 2 years ago
I think a big part is you idiots think your so much better then hunters...... "oh i'm gona live 150 years" thats why the idiot died at 92..... "cancerproof your body"......Lets bitch that our vegan is WAY better then hunting.... thats why we have more problems then meat eaters.....
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
DId I ever say it was the AVERAGE vegan diet??? NO..... I'm as much anti-vegan as you are anti-hunting..... so what the hell is your point?
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
You could do the same survey with meat eaters and find they have lots of problems too
Gilz84 2 years ago 2
yup, also like to see it...... garentee 67% aren't gona be bitching about foggy thoughts
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
I can tell you now people who eat red meat are more likely to develop cancer and heart disease than those who don't. And it's spelt guarantee - thought you said you went to school?
Gilz84 2 years ago
You have a source for this??? I'll be waiting for a PM... Is spelling all that you got on me??? I could do the same to you.... You don't start a sentence with 'and'
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
Where's YOUR source, deary? Because either I'm a bionic woman or your statistics are bunk. I haven't met *anyone* who's experienced negative effects of a balanced vegan diet.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago 3
Yup you've never met anyone who had negative effects of a BALANCED vegan diet..... because their probably taking suplimentry pills for the lack of stuff that they got
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
1) None of the vegans I know take supplements. Even 811 raw vegans like durianriders (on YouTube) don't take supplements. I prefer to get my nutrients from food, not pills. ;)
2) The vegans that were surveyed could have easily take supplements as well. It doesn't make a difference.
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago 2
There are plenty of sources just google it. AND you can start sentences with conjoining words...everyday is a school day for you eh?
Gilz84 2 years ago 2
yup because you once again you don't have any sources, when did I say anything about "everyday is a school day"?? Plus I type and speak american NOT english.
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
First off, you can't complain if he doesn't provide you with a source when you refuse to do the same. You should have included the source in the side bar, if not the video as well. Please stop acting like a chicken shit and give us a source for this study. LOL
KnittyGrittyNatch 2 years ago 3
Lol no such language as American - you speak English (badly)
Gilz84 2 years ago
Sine you supposedly live in the UK, you should know what English is, American and not a real language, but people that live in the states don't ever use prefixes, pronouns,,, people that speak English will always sound like British, because every damn prefix is were it's supossed to be,,,,, no american that has lived their whole life in american will speak english, they speak american.....
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
You also write English badly...that didn't make any sense
Gilz84 2 years ago
ok, in simple 8th grade term
Yes I know that American is not a language, but american don't speak English, americans speak american,,,,,if you speak english, your gona sound like a Brittian, and hardly any american sounds like a Brittian, people why speak English but prefixes and nouns and the correct spot, EVERY time, people that speak american, do NOT put prefixes and nouns and every thing else in the correct spot every time.....
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
"americans don't speak English" LOL okay if according to you Americans dont speak English and American is not a language then what language do you speak?
Gilz84 2 years ago
you won't understand, to big of a concept
sportbikeandhunter 2 years ago
Also, I'd like this guy to support evidence as well...
Opsomaniac 2 years ago 2
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That's meat-eaters propoganda. None of that is true. We vegans are still alive so it must be healthy.................hmmmmmm, what were we talking about?
raultalbot7 2 years ago
Haha, you always say it's wrong, and we give you evidence, remember the evidence I gave you? Then, oh, just had to ignore that when it contradicted with your idea.
Opsomaniac 2 years ago 3
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Evidence about what?
raultalbot7 2 years ago
About how 70-90% of grain and corn go to animals, so therefore about 1 pound of meat costs about 10-30 pounds of plant.
Opsomaniac 2 years ago 2
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So! What's your point? I eat grass fed beef. When you start eating grass....then you can complain.
raultalbot7 2 years ago
I'm saying, if this is propaganda (not propoganda) as you say, then prove it, give us links, give us the "real" information. You say this is all bs, but you never seem to prove it... yet we are proving it, and you aren't.... what does that show? Give us proof. Prove it.
Opsomaniac 2 years ago 2
One more thing, they can not be by biased sources, they have to be from legitimate sources. Such as mine were from a government survey. Not from sites like petakillsanimals, haha a site by cigarette companies (peta protests against cigarette experiments with monkeys) so hence biased, the same goes with consumerforfreedom, a large amount of money they receive is from that cigarette company
Opsomaniac 2 years ago 3
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Did you miss a feeding today or did they cancel spongebob?
Did I say your statement about 70-90% grain and corn going to animals was false? The only thing you're proving right is this survey:
*"67% complain about scattered or foggy thoughts"
*"Mood swing 40%"
*"Grouchy 40%"
raultalbot7 2 years ago
You missed my point totally. I'm trying to get you to support your arguments, :O a big shocker.
"You say this is all bs, but you never seem to prove it." and at first... I was saying that I support my arguments with something called evidence, just like when I owned you about the 70-90% of grain blah blah blah. SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENTS.
Opsomaniac 2 years ago 3
You are confusing haha, you sound like a vegan, who goes around helping other vegans by improving their arguments. I just may have figured you out ;).
Opsomaniac 2 years ago 4
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Silly girl....ya got me.
raultalbot7 2 years ago