DFLP2012 Frostplunged part 24 - Tantrums

[chaoticidealism450]

I think you have to mod in a diplomat to successfully provoke war with the elves. I'm not that well-versed in the art of elf-taunting myself, but the Bay 12 forums could tell you how to do it.

[captnduck]

@chaoticidealism450 It's easy actually. Chop down trees till they start complaining. Then chop down some more.

[MsJaneiroo]

For the elves I like to build a special trade depot inside the fortress - with extra walls made out of wood - then once the caravan is in, I remove the trade depot, take the stuff, put a few monkeys in there, leave a few tombs and wall the place - with a wall made out of oak preferably - leaving one tile for a window, then I place statues on either side of that!

[TheFubz]

btw this series is becomming a what not to do set of examples :P 1) dont mess with aquifiers, 2) prepare for hard biomes appropriately (and lay more cage traps :P) 3) dont build bridges near lava that arent magma safe.

[caffeinerage]

@TheFubz Don't turn off refuse collecting, leaving dead bodies inside the fortress.

[TheFubz]

i like your idea at the end of the video captn

[falconfira]

I want to see a unicorn in this game...

[craphazzard]

I think you turned off body reclaimation in an old video and never turned it back on so now theres tons of bodies everywhere and miasma that isnt helping the situation!

[craphazzard]

@craphazzard ok you fixed it halfway through the video phew.

[MrSuperpicklesalad]

WATCH THE FORT DIE, ALL THOSE THAT REMAIN WILL BE CONSIDERED WORTHY OF CONTINUED EXISTANCE, THEN KILL THEM ALL WITH FIRE, THEN KILL ALL THE ELVES WITH FIRE, I AM NOT CRAZY!

[IcarusAllsorts]

Try and build a fortress designed for tantrums! Have a few military dwarves that are kept really happy to enforce the law, and try to seperate the misserable common dwarves from each other as much as possible. Create a mini-dictatorship!

[IcarusAllsorts]

@IcarusAllsorts You know, after annoying the elves, which is always fun.

[lejonzx]

Everytime I look at this video. I go OH MY FUCKING GOODNESS WTFUCKOMGOSH THE FUCK? is going on..

[mezzmainia]

the trees will BURN and the elves will DIE

[HaunterV]

Have you ever tried to just wall/seal off a section of tantruming dwarves from non tantruming dwarves? just let those on the other side of the wall kill eachother off.

Basically Star the fortress over again without leaving the game. just pic 7 happy dwarves, start them over, and take away all teh jobs from every non happy dwarf. treat them as npcs that can be killed off at will.

[gmoonen]

Move on, and kill all the trees

[HeyFlightmode]

Could you try a fortress where you immediately try and settle the caves and build your fortress only on those levels?

[ChudFapper]

The tantrum stuff seems like an extremely poorly implemented featured. Since when did dwarves becomes whiny emo teenagers? I thought they were supposed to be hardy, mentally strong and taking everything in stride.

[Chromiumism]

@ChudFapper Then you also probably thought elves were good archers with brilliantly designed cities and architectural masterpieces. In dwarf fortress, the elves are tree-hugging hippies. Besides, if all your friends died, you probably wouldn't be sane for very much longer. Mostly in part that you're accustomed to people dying of old age, but also because you lost all your friends. Dwarves have feelings too.

[MjrIssues]

@ChudFapper Dwarf Society is a thing of wonder. Dwarves are uniquely gifted creatures of astounding stupidity. They place personal comfort on a level with family contacts. It is perfectly common to see a dwarf go from being depressed after seeing his family brutally murdered, to being ecstatic due to discovering a beautiful dining room with amazing meals.

[fw2k]

Do what you want.

You obviously want to move on, and want more action.

If you are not having fun, there are no reason to play.

[MsJaneiroo]

...with outdoor wood furnaces to taunt the elves and unusual machinery, powerful pumps or something!!

[bloodofkorne]

Move on but kill everyone in the fort first

[pwwoodin]

move on, elf slaughter!

[Robotnikpwnage]

@MrSuperpicklesalad but then those people would become sad and mad after he killed the insane dwarves :P

[BWIceSoldier]

I think that while the fort may become manageable after a while of settling, it's stopped being fun. Unless you can find an interesting way to kill everyone in the fort (like the suggestion to open the circus), I'd say move on.

[tytycon]

New fortress, I say! Elves be killed!

[MrSuperpicklesalad]

I say that you should take the dwarves that arent going crazy anytime soon, then give them all the supplies, put them in a safe room, flood the fort with lava to kill the tantrum spiral, then hope migrants come and repopulate the fort. Or watch the fort die, in either case, dont abandon the fort.

[VtheHAPPYLURKER]

I'd say not to abandon Frostplunge, but put it on the back burner and start a new fort. With unicorns and elf slaughter.

[lagnath]

You should make a new fort, mostly because it will make the episodes more entertaining for you. That will ultimately make it more entertaining for everyone.

[evilgibson]

What? Leave this fortress because it's a downward spiral of tantrums? Dude, that is the BEST time to play Dwarf Fortress.

Also, funny that there are so many corpse you start calling the crypts "storerooms"

[MaddRabbitx]

yeah, elf killin

[dark117]

My rule is, if more than half the fort is unhappy and 80 percent of those unhappy are miserable then I get the happy miners to dig down and open up hell

[Alectr0n]

Elf genocide is always welcome, preferably magma based.

[pewpewlasergunz]

yes some elf torture please

[YotaXP]

I don't understand why you don't use all those ropes in the prison. Or at the very least, disarm or demote the captain of the guard so that he doesn't KILL everyone, making everyone even more upset.

[caffeinerage]

Death to the elves! Bunch of tree-humping hippies.

Does anyone, ever like the elves?

[Vexed34]

I'd vote to move on! Can't wait for lavish prepared Unicorn lung meals and mass Elven slaughter!!!

[siriusesmind]

I would like to suggest a few things for the future DFLP/s 1st reading the FPS boost page on DF wiki, possibly you will find something that will help/give a little boost in yer fps, also limiting your dwarf pop to 100 if you haven't done so already. 2nd Genesis mod it adds a lot more civs enemies and FUN stuff in general might be something to try before DF2012 it also has tileset support and dwarf therapist support!

[MrJackonthehighway]

You are a really good and experienced df player - your videos are a pleasure to see. Thank you for the series, I'm looking forward to the next one.

[Vexed34]

Yup rotting dwarf gases will really dampen the mood around Frostplunged.

[morris182]

I vote for a new start we need some eco-terrorism! Any way I can get a dwarfification in the next series? Just name one Morris please I'm not picky about job or anything.

[jerrege]

Awesome, new series!

[siriusesmind]

That cobalt bridge was REALLY funful!