on the other hand, I don't like the fact that I have to pay for those that have committed these crimes weather through death penalty or having to pay for the care and up keep of these sick fools.So basically either way I'm paying either by killing them or by letting them live.Doesn't matter to me if the death penalty is cheaper then to spend years, none of my money should have to go for these sick people.
I;m what you call a fence rider. my up bringing sais it is wrong to kill weather it is from a person on the street or state sanctioned, however there are those that have no hope of redemption and are just plain cold blooded and very sick. Also I am of the belief that killing someone that has killed for what ever reason, (hatred, evil, or other reasons) is not going to solve the issue or bring those people back. its not going to ease the pain of the victims family's.
Human rights is all about protecting criminals and spitting in the face of the victims. Justice should be served, there are some criminals who are beyond help.
if you kill in cold blood you are a murderer - that is the definition- and that is exactly what a state does to those already in custody (that are harmless without weapons) sentenced to death (after more or less diligently conducted trials) - no animal kills its own species (...except for black widows eating lovers...and some eating babies, but abortion is another ....)
Come back and tell everyone about how cruel and unusual dying from a lethal injection or in a gas chamber is when you've lost a relative or friend to one of the death row-type killers.
Anyone who isn't mentally 'damaged' will be singing a different tune then. I really hate people who don't understand the pain and suffering enduring even a simple pickpocketing or car theft can cause, never mind a vicious murder, prosletysing to us about the human rights of the perpetrators.
I wonder how well equipped the socialists' beloved restorative justice is to dealing with murderers? How are you going to restore life to your victim, most criminals would not be able to restore to a victim of a burglary the sense of security in their own home they had prior to a break in never mind restoring the life of someone they've seriously injured etc
Bottom line- restorative justice for all but very minor crimes fails.
The only reason the death penalty exists is to satisfy blood thirsty war mongering cavemen like you!
How would you feel if you or someone you loved was on death row. I wont even pretend to understand the pain and suffering of a murder victims family, but the death penalty is nothing more than cruel and detestable. BTW isn't it ironic that Christians hate abortion yet they support both war and the death penalty, whatever happened to THOU SHALL NOT KILL!!!
So for wanting to see a killer get a taste of their own medicine I'm a caveman? I have no interest in what Christian rightwingers do, but I think their line of argument would be that a little baby being killed is slightly less defensible than a murderer being killed but clearly some of the humanitarians around here disagree.
If I had a relative on death row I'd love them but I would recognise that every crime has a punishment and that people ought not to be above the law.
so what you what someone like ted bundy not to be put to death and then have him breakout of prison again and kill more people no i say keep the death penalty and get what you deserved fried them all ....
so what you what someone like ted bundy not to be put to death and then have him breakout of prison again and kill more people no i say keep the death penalty and get what you deserved fried them all ....
What I don't understand, is how the act of violence or sexual depraviety that a criminal inflicts on their victims, isn't considered cruel and unusual enough punishment to warrent a death that is actually pretty kind considering what some of those animals have inflicted on others?? Answer me that you flaky poofter!
2. As far as I know people who have been given death penalties are held a couple of years in the death cell, before getting killed, which is in fact a real mind torture
3. What if someone proves innocent after you killed him? Can you let him free and pay compensation? NO you can't ! Death penalty is irreversible!
I look at it this way, if one of these dregs kills my family. I hope to get they get the death penalty, because why should people who kill and rape someone deserve to live. God you liberals need to wake up!
Why is tyhe death penalty so important when so few people get killed by it every year. Millions more get murdered by acts of war and crime. According to statistics, world executions are only in the thousands. What's the point?
But that's exactly why we need the death penalty. We need retribution, not try to "help" these monsters. And don't say I'm no better than they are for wanting it, I've heard it all before.
@numbersyesno Well said. Based on people's comments, I'm getting the drift that that they're using the word "justice" to mask their own primitive desire to retribute without even attempting to correct the criminal's behavior. To them it's common sense. To me, it's insanity in an already chaotic world.
You can say what you prefer but Amnesty int. is a NON Democratic Organisation! Members have not any decisions! You can protest and other thinks but you can't decide anything!
crime is directly linked with poverty. the U.S. has the highest income inequality in the industrialized world. if we take a look at the larger issue of poverty we can reduce many other problems. things like gang violence happen as a result of not being able to attain power, money through legitimate means that are not available to many. the death penalty costs more, kills many innocent people, and according to the statistics has not decreased violent crime at all.
Amnesty is a NGO (Non-Governmental Organisation) and how it is been lead can be found at their homepage.
What they do, firstly translate the word "Amnesty" then you are already one big step ahead understanding Amnesty. Swiftly they're trying to protect, spread and uphold human rights anywhere at anytime.
there should be harsher punishments but the death penalty doesnt solve anything. what i suggest is take away all priviliges and put the person in a prison that is far away from family and friends cause why should they be able to see people that they love, afterall i will never see my best friend again.
well i would want you to turn them in cause they have broken the law. but i wouldn want them to face the death penalty. a few years ago my cousin who was my best friend was murdered, i didnt want that person to be put to death, life is to short to hold a grudge against someone. the person that murdered my cousin is now suffering in jail and wont be out untill 2015 if they have behaved themselves inside, if not they will be out in 2020.
treat people the way you want to be treated ok, get a life you fucktard and leave me alone you dickhead motherfucking piece of shit. you like being treated like that dont you.
@dkrustyklown In that case, I do hope that there is a God that can help you if all you can think about is revenge. You have proven how primitive and barbaric human nature truly is and unfortunately, you will probably brush aside this post and continue to be controlled by your primitive instincts, just like the animal that you are. I wish Skinner was still alive. He would have done miracles to change you.
Psychology is quack science. Psychology is for people that lack the intelligence and discipline for true science but who nonetheless wish to be called "scientists".
So I want those who cause harm to me or my property to be destroyed. What's your point? It is naturally obvious that I wish that my enemies be destroyed. It is perfectly normal to want to destroy one's enemies. That's why they are "enemies".
@dkrustyklown A quack science? Indeed. Skinner, Watson and Pavlov were all shamans, right? Read about their contributions to understanding human behavior and their practical applications to daily life and maybe you will think otherwise. My point is that by stating that revenge and retribution are your motives, you are simply enforcing an already known fact about the savageness of human nature, not to mention proving Thomas Hobbes right in his assumptions that humans need to be controlled.
I have the inherent and absolute right to slay any person that causes physical harm to me or my family. This right exists over and above the law. It is a natural right. Vengeance IS justice. I don't want a murderer's criminal behavior to be "corrected". I just want the murderer eliminated completely.
What is the point in "correcting" a criminal's behavior if you're just going to jail him for life? Why not just destroy him and be done with it?
@dkrustyklown the law that constitutes the term "eye for an eye" can be found in many third world countries for which you came from. United States accelerated to a more modernized society than everywhere else. It is the mentality of YOU and the third world people that makes this country bad. You and your family should join the muslim nations, the scum of the earth, and share your radical ideas. Maybe then, you will acquire one step further to the evolutionary ladder.
I've never understand how Americans can be Anglophobic, it really makes no sense. Not real Americans anyway.
BTW I agree with you about the inherent right to seek retribution against those who have wronged you or your family, its just a real shame that neither British nor American lawmakers truly understand that.
Oh, and one more thing. The terms, 1st world, 2nd world, and 3rd world were applicable during the Cold War, with the 1st world being those nations aligned with the US, the 2nd world being those nations aligned with the USSR, and the 3rd world being those nations that are unaligned with either side. Since the USSR no longer exists, the terms 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world are no longer applicable. Your continued use of those terms exposes your utter ignorance and stupidity.
BTW, sorry that I cursed in my original response to your comment. I see where you are coming from with the Bible, but I just want to make it clear that my reasons for supporting the death penalty are not based on the Bible.
Hm, you call us cowards, when we willingly takes the risk to be insulted by people like you? Or are we cowards because we insist on things like forgiveness and fair justice - a person punished with death can not be revived again if it turns out the she or he was inocent. Death penalty has not proved to lower the rate of murders or scaring people away from doing crime, which means you have to fight criminal acts in other ways.
i know amnesty it is non political but in countries polititians decide these things, its polititians that can change weather they keep death penalty or not
FUCK ALL WHO OPPOSE THE DEATH PENALTY!
thisissparta789789 9 months ago
on the other hand, I don't like the fact that I have to pay for those that have committed these crimes weather through death penalty or having to pay for the care and up keep of these sick fools.So basically either way I'm paying either by killing them or by letting them live.Doesn't matter to me if the death penalty is cheaper then to spend years, none of my money should have to go for these sick people.
Brenda1371 11 months ago
@Brenda1371
"Doesn't matter to me if the death penalty is cheaper then to spend years"
It's not cheaper, the death penalty is actually more expensive than life without parole.
There really is not a single reason on which the death penalty can be justified over life without parole.
reatonate1989 8 months ago
@reatonate1989
Indeed. It's impractical and inhumane.
It's time for society to grow up.
cmadison93 5 months ago
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Brenda1371 11 months ago
I;m what you call a fence rider. my up bringing sais it is wrong to kill weather it is from a person on the street or state sanctioned, however there are those that have no hope of redemption and are just plain cold blooded and very sick. Also I am of the belief that killing someone that has killed for what ever reason, (hatred, evil, or other reasons) is not going to solve the issue or bring those people back. its not going to ease the pain of the victims family's.
Brenda1371 11 months ago
Human rights is all about protecting criminals and spitting in the face of the victims. Justice should be served, there are some criminals who are beyond help.
darkstar3x16 1 year ago
You really have to GET WISE if you want to see the "ZALLO" Behind their faces...
There isnt much time. Get smart or lose this war between Evil and sheeeps!!
BishiSab 1 year ago
if you kill in cold blood you are a murderer - that is the definition- and that is exactly what a state does to those already in custody (that are harmless without weapons) sentenced to death (after more or less diligently conducted trials) - no animal kills its own species (...except for black widows eating lovers...and some eating babies, but abortion is another ....)
khi590 1 year ago
Amnesty International is a serial killer's best friend
PunkAttitude8V 1 year ago
thou shalt not kill if you support wars or the death penalty do not pretend you are a christian
radiofreak56 1 year ago
@radiofreak56 are there still Christians? that crap's still around?
xixas15 1 year ago
Serial Killers should ALWAYS get the Death Penalty!
Jonathan8508 1 year ago
@Jonathan8508 Finally someone who has a brain.
PunkAttitude8V 1 year ago
@Jonathan8508 of course
xixas15 1 year ago
Come back and tell everyone about how cruel and unusual dying from a lethal injection or in a gas chamber is when you've lost a relative or friend to one of the death row-type killers.
Anyone who isn't mentally 'damaged' will be singing a different tune then. I really hate people who don't understand the pain and suffering enduring even a simple pickpocketing or car theft can cause, never mind a vicious murder, prosletysing to us about the human rights of the perpetrators.
theporksicle 1 year ago
@theporksicle
I wonder how well equipped the socialists' beloved restorative justice is to dealing with murderers? How are you going to restore life to your victim, most criminals would not be able to restore to a victim of a burglary the sense of security in their own home they had prior to a break in never mind restoring the life of someone they've seriously injured etc
Bottom line- restorative justice for all but very minor crimes fails.
theporksicle 1 year ago
@theporksicle
The only reason the death penalty exists is to satisfy blood thirsty war mongering cavemen like you!
How would you feel if you or someone you loved was on death row. I wont even pretend to understand the pain and suffering of a murder victims family, but the death penalty is nothing more than cruel and detestable. BTW isn't it ironic that Christians hate abortion yet they support both war and the death penalty, whatever happened to THOU SHALL NOT KILL!!!
Matthiasthesecond 9 months ago
@Matthiasthesecond
So for wanting to see a killer get a taste of their own medicine I'm a caveman? I have no interest in what Christian rightwingers do, but I think their line of argument would be that a little baby being killed is slightly less defensible than a murderer being killed but clearly some of the humanitarians around here disagree.
If I had a relative on death row I'd love them but I would recognise that every crime has a punishment and that people ought not to be above the law.
theporksicle 9 months ago
when someone rapes and murders this worthless cunts daughter, she'll change her tune quick.
mdjbm 1 year ago
so what you what someone like ted bundy not to be put to death and then have him breakout of prison again and kill more people no i say keep the death penalty and get what you deserved fried them all ....
statetrooper21 1 year ago
so what you what someone like ted bundy not to be put to death and then have him breakout of prison again and kill more people no i say keep the death penalty and get what you deserved fried them all ....
statetrooper21 1 year ago
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crusadingredfox 2 years ago
What I don't understand, is how the act of violence or sexual depraviety that a criminal inflicts on their victims, isn't considered cruel and unusual enough punishment to warrent a death that is actually pretty kind considering what some of those animals have inflicted on others?? Answer me that you flaky poofter!
HeartOnMySleeve77 2 years ago
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warpedcomedy 2 years ago
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warpedcomedy 2 years ago
1. I think baal1985 is right
2. As far as I know people who have been given death penalties are held a couple of years in the death cell, before getting killed, which is in fact a real mind torture
3. What if someone proves innocent after you killed him? Can you let him free and pay compensation? NO you can't ! Death penalty is irreversible!
Durayne 3 years ago
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warpedcomedy 2 years ago
Je voie madame que le temps coule mais le droit est exact !!....
HADHOUMI 3 years ago
I look at it this way, if one of these dregs kills my family. I hope to get they get the death penalty, because why should people who kill and rape someone deserve to live. God you liberals need to wake up!
dogsketterloo 3 years ago 2
Why is tyhe death penalty so important when so few people get killed by it every year. Millions more get murdered by acts of war and crime. According to statistics, world executions are only in the thousands. What's the point?
mrrimfire 3 years ago
You cannot justify murder with murder.
Baal1985 3 years ago
The death penalty is about revenge, not justice. That is why I'm fiercely against it.
numbersyesno 3 years ago
But that's exactly why we need the death penalty. We need retribution, not try to "help" these monsters. And don't say I'm no better than they are for wanting it, I've heard it all before.
warpedcomedy 2 years ago 2
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warpedcomedy 2 years ago
When someone commits a wrong against me or my family, I care not for justice. I want REVENGE.
dkrustyklown 2 years ago 2
@numbersyesno Well said. Based on people's comments, I'm getting the drift that that they're using the word "justice" to mask their own primitive desire to retribute without even attempting to correct the criminal's behavior. To them it's common sense. To me, it's insanity in an already chaotic world.
Ignozi 1 year ago
I'm against capital punishment. They should use convicted criminals for medical experiments instead of animals.
digglyda 3 years ago 2
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warpedcomedy 2 years ago
Yeah let someone kill your whole family, then we can talk!! EYE 4 AN EYE.
deataol 3 years ago
That sort of attitude gets us nowhere.
As Gandhi said: "An eye for an eye, and soon the whole world is blind."
numbersyesno 3 years ago
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warpedcomedy 2 years ago
You can say what you prefer but Amnesty int. is a NON Democratic Organisation! Members have not any decisions! You can protest and other thinks but you can't decide anything!
Orders arrive from the top! Bye.
alistrone 3 years ago
crime is directly linked with poverty. the U.S. has the highest income inequality in the industrialized world. if we take a look at the larger issue of poverty we can reduce many other problems. things like gang violence happen as a result of not being able to attain power, money through legitimate means that are not available to many. the death penalty costs more, kills many innocent people, and according to the statistics has not decreased violent crime at all.
jjsmilemore26 3 years ago
yes, yes, yes!!
anathemaandcaffeine 3 years ago
What is Amnesty int. Who is the president?
We can only pay for this ass. no decisions!!
alistrone 3 years ago
Amnesty is a NGO (Non-Governmental Organisation) and how it is been lead can be found at their homepage.
What they do, firstly translate the word "Amnesty" then you are already one big step ahead understanding Amnesty. Swiftly they're trying to protect, spread and uphold human rights anywhere at anytime.
Baal1985 3 years ago 7
there should be harsher punishments but the death penalty doesnt solve anything. what i suggest is take away all priviliges and put the person in a prison that is far away from family and friends cause why should they be able to see people that they love, afterall i will never see my best friend again.
idontsignin 3 years ago
well i would want you to turn them in cause they have broken the law. but i wouldn want them to face the death penalty. a few years ago my cousin who was my best friend was murdered, i didnt want that person to be put to death, life is to short to hold a grudge against someone. the person that murdered my cousin is now suffering in jail and wont be out untill 2015 if they have behaved themselves inside, if not they will be out in 2020.
idontsignin 3 years ago
so if 1 of your parents commited a murder or even your best friend or son or daughter you would give them the death penalty then
idontsignin 3 years ago
If your parents or best friend or son or daughter was murdered, wouldn't you want the death penalty?
warpedcomedy 2 years ago
no i wouldnt as that would make me no better than them.
idontsignin 2 years ago
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warpedcomedy 2 years ago
so you believe in an eye for and eye. i believe in karma. what goes around comes around.
idontsignin 2 years ago
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warpedcomedy 2 years ago
Karma huh?
I make my own karma. If someone wrongs me, then I wrong them.
Do unto others as they do unto you. That's what I go by.
dkrustyklown 2 years ago
well its lucky i dont believe in god then isnt it, and dont bible quote me.
idontsignin 2 years ago
I didn't quote the bible you illiterate fuck. Learn how to read, twit.
dkrustyklown 2 years ago
treat people the way you want to be treated ok, get a life you fucktard and leave me alone you dickhead motherfucking piece of shit. you like being treated like that dont you.
idontsignin 2 years ago
I didn't say to treat people the way you want to be treated, fucktard.
I said to treat people the way that they treat you. This is quite the opposite of what the bible says.
you FAIL at reading...
dkrustyklown 2 years ago
well you start treating people the way you want to be treated, and dont bother commenting back to me as i wont reply. you are beneath me.
idontsignin 2 years ago
You accused me of quoting the Bible, when I did no such thing. Now all you can do is cry like a bitch and ask to be left alone.
Go to hell, fuckwit.
dkrustyklown 2 years ago
this is why your mum shouldn't let you on the computer...
jermsoe 2 years ago
Just because you are willing to forgive doesn't mean that I am. Don't impose your ideals and morals on me. When someone wrongs me, I want BLOOD!
dkrustyklown 2 years ago
@dkrustyklown In that case, I do hope that there is a God that can help you if all you can think about is revenge. You have proven how primitive and barbaric human nature truly is and unfortunately, you will probably brush aside this post and continue to be controlled by your primitive instincts, just like the animal that you are. I wish Skinner was still alive. He would have done miracles to change you.
Ignozi 1 year ago
@Ignozi
Psychology is quack science. Psychology is for people that lack the intelligence and discipline for true science but who nonetheless wish to be called "scientists".
So I want those who cause harm to me or my property to be destroyed. What's your point? It is naturally obvious that I wish that my enemies be destroyed. It is perfectly normal to want to destroy one's enemies. That's why they are "enemies".
Get a clue, retard.
dkrustyklown 1 year ago
@dkrustyklown A quack science? Indeed. Skinner, Watson and Pavlov were all shamans, right? Read about their contributions to understanding human behavior and their practical applications to daily life and maybe you will think otherwise. My point is that by stating that revenge and retribution are your motives, you are simply enforcing an already known fact about the savageness of human nature, not to mention proving Thomas Hobbes right in his assumptions that humans need to be controlled.
Ignozi 1 year ago
@Ignozi
I have the inherent and absolute right to slay any person that causes physical harm to me or my family. This right exists over and above the law. It is a natural right. Vengeance IS justice. I don't want a murderer's criminal behavior to be "corrected". I just want the murderer eliminated completely.
What is the point in "correcting" a criminal's behavior if you're just going to jail him for life? Why not just destroy him and be done with it?
dkrustyklown 1 year ago
@dkrustyklown the law that constitutes the term "eye for an eye" can be found in many third world countries for which you came from. United States accelerated to a more modernized society than everywhere else. It is the mentality of YOU and the third world people that makes this country bad. You and your family should join the muslim nations, the scum of the earth, and share your radical ideas. Maybe then, you will acquire one step further to the evolutionary ladder.
532131 1 year ago
@532131
I hope that your whore of a mother is raped and murdered, so that then you can appreciate the death penalty.
dkrustyklown 1 year ago
@532131
You're not even an American. You're a piece of shit limey. Go die.
dkrustyklown 1 year ago
@dkrustyklown
I've never understand how Americans can be Anglophobic, it really makes no sense. Not real Americans anyway.
BTW I agree with you about the inherent right to seek retribution against those who have wronged you or your family, its just a real shame that neither British nor American lawmakers truly understand that.
theporksicle 1 year ago
@532131
Oh, and one more thing. The terms, 1st world, 2nd world, and 3rd world were applicable during the Cold War, with the 1st world being those nations aligned with the US, the 2nd world being those nations aligned with the USSR, and the 3rd world being those nations that are unaligned with either side. Since the USSR no longer exists, the terms 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world are no longer applicable. Your continued use of those terms exposes your utter ignorance and stupidity.
dkrustyklown 1 year ago
the Bible says, Thou shalt not kill, but an eye for an eye is otherwise acceptable
traceyrmj2 2 years ago
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dkrustyklown 2 years ago
I don't concern myself with the Bible. My support for the death penalty is not based on a religious motive.
dkrustyklown 2 years ago
@traceyrmj2
BTW, sorry that I cursed in my original response to your comment. I see where you are coming from with the Bible, but I just want to make it clear that my reasons for supporting the death penalty are not based on the Bible.
dkrustyklown 2 years ago
Pro-life, no doubt ! Always, positively DP must be abolished !
DEQVF 3 years ago
Hm, you call us cowards, when we willingly takes the risk to be insulted by people like you? Or are we cowards because we insist on things like forgiveness and fair justice - a person punished with death can not be revived again if it turns out the she or he was inocent. Death penalty has not proved to lower the rate of murders or scaring people away from doing crime, which means you have to fight criminal acts in other ways.
Storguido 3 years ago
i am against the death penatly but too many politics involved in this matter.
idontsignin 3 years ago
Amnesty International is essentially non-political though.
EgonBauwelinck 3 years ago
i know amnesty it is non political but in countries polititians decide these things, its polititians that can change weather they keep death penalty or not
idontsignin 3 years ago