EU Hypocrisy on Climate Change

[diekerel]

I do agree that the world needs a good cleaning and alternatives for chemical stuff is always welcome to me, but honestly even if we don't the whole 'global warming' theory is nonsense, why is it a lie? Because there's hundreds of theories and not one with vast proof. If there's no proof to come up with it, then without proof you may aswell drop it.

[bbphnix]

The EU won't die and it shouldnt and no country will ever leave it nor should it; EU is a good thing

[CelticKraut]

@bbphnix it all dies in time kid.

[stephen842]

What a brilliant man!

[jrjrg]

I wonder how many in that room can understand his last sentence.

[thirteenfingers]

@jrjrg I expect by now they've either figured it out themselves or had the interpreters figure it out and put it into the relevant languages.

He ended* pretty much every speech with those words calling for a referendum.

* "ended" as opposed to "ends" because I'm not sure if he still ends with that now Lisbon is done and dusted after the Irish were bullied into submission in a corrupt THIRD "referendum".

Well chosen words, more understandable in English, but the quirkyness of Latin stands out.

[MrGilles1990]

the EU pays translators to do that

[marek007able]

@jrjrg dont really get it... English is not my first tongue.... could you type what he said?

[songratingaccount]

pactio olisipiensis censenda est

[antodav]

"The Lisbon Treaty must be burned." This guy even knows Latin! I may go gay for him!

[songratingaccount]

censenda est is "must be put to the vote" babe. burned would be incenda

[antodav]

@songratingaccount My bad, lol. I guess I didn't hear him properly, or understand him right with his accent. Either way, it works.

[BoEmery]

He is just f-ing brilliant!

[gingergiblet]

@BoEmery

He's no Nigel Farage, he is also part of the Conservative party. He is obviously aware of the puppeteers existance so knows damn well they control the tories as much as Labour and Lib Dems, but he chose to join anyway and opposed to standing by his principles. If he gets any higher in the party, consider his soul sold.

[F4O4U4R4S]

Global warming has nothing to do with humans and has everything to do with the Sun. You see the sun actually has hot and cold fluctuations, at this very time the sun is in a hot spell(happens roughly every 26 000 years). Also politicians tell us high carbon(autos)= global warming(effectively pointing the finger at us), in reality high carbon=iceage. Never believe anything a politician says, they are instinctively and morally corrupt!

[tincoffin]

@F4O4U4R4S It is also to do with sunspots. Cosmic rays are instrumental in forming clouds . Sunspots act as a kind of cosmic vacuum cleaner and deflect cosmic rays away from the earth so we get fewer clouds and hence more sunlight falling on the earth.

[H4n5m0e]

@F4O4U4R4S why then do most politician actually deny climate change?

[bbphnix]

@F4O4U4R4S it's the freaking scientists that say global warming is due to CO2 not politicians!!!

[Rensune]

@bbphnix Whether or not this is true, let us look at two things. Firstly, every living being on this planet that breathes breathes out CO2 (unless you are advocating nuking the entire planet, this cannot be countered.) Secondly, Venus and Jupiter both have a far thicker atmosphere. Yet which is hotter?

[TheSWTORMMO]

@bbphnix You're getting confused.

[CountJimbo]

@F4O4U4R4S people like u cause so much problems. So what if people like me who work in this are wrong...ok we have spent a lot of money getting cleaner air, employing thousands in a new industry and reducing our dependance on foreign fuels......now what if YOUR wrong.....we will have essentially brought about the destruction of our entire WORLD and we helped to do it. Band wagon conspirancy theorists. If politicains were not saying there was a problem- ud be saying they were protecting big oil.

[Martial024]

@F4O4U4R4S The man who preaches it the most from what I've seen Al Gore just so happens to be deeply invested in the same organizations that would have benefited greatly from Cap and Trade.. Coincidence?

[lildisaster]

Unfortunately Global Warming is a bunch of bull. and trying to stop climate change is along the lines of impossible. believe what you want. but buying your little Hybrid car isnt going to save the world.

[liberaluk10]

Wanna know my opinion?

Daniel Hannan wants to kill your NHS.

Daniel Hannan wants the poor to have no access to healthcare.

Daniel Hannan admires the American system where healthcare bills, deductables and co-pays are the biggest single cause of homelessness.

Daniel Hannan wants a system where they check your insurance card before they pick you up off the road.

Daniel Hannan DESPERATELY wants the polarization of rich and poor.

RICH, SELFISH, TORY, FAT CAT IDIOTS!

[Sredit]

Thanks, that's exactly what we need.

you altruistic socialist twat.

[songratingaccount]

noone wanted to know your opinion you fucking moron

daniel hannan places FREEDOM above security

any country that will trade a little liberty for a little security will get none, and deserve neither

[ogello]

hahaha lol

[matdelta1]

WHAT AN IRRITATING LITTLE MAN!

[fomastephanovitch]

peregrinations - haha

Dickens

[jharris2317]

You are a hero around the world. I hope the voters will speak loud and clear! PM Hannan! Then I hope we Americans can do what we've done in the past. Learn from the mistakes of the mother country. Perhaps, you will be able provide leadership to this "successful nephew." I heard you on Hannity's show, and appreciated the dignity you spoke with regarding our nation.

All the best to you! The world needs real men who won't put power ahead of principle!

Sincerely,

Joshua Harris

[aekel66]

I think i'm gonna vote for this guy even though i'm from Sweden. Just put the name on a piece of paper and see what happens.

Swedish Libertarian prty got about 300 votes last election. Hurray!

[tweedlebeetles]

Glad to hear it!

[countryfriedZ71]

I wish our "conservative" politicians had the spine to get up and say what needs to be said like this guy does.

[LonestarDeTimberland]

I don't care what his 'label' is, this guy is amazing. I imagine that he is being shut out of the local media like Ron Paul was during the 2008 election cycle. You can't have people running around telling the truth, it might upset the people (government).

[3ballard]

Look how empty it is, again.

We pay our MEPs a fortune in salary, perks and expenses. Can they bother to turn up to debates?

And the limits on debates (1 and 3 mins) only shows how little they value any sort of proper debate, "rubber stamping" is all that is required.

[58robbo]

as far as i'm concerned global warming is just another tool to bring about global governance. if however you do believe the hypothesis, wouldn't it therefore make sense to stop subsidising oil and coal? would it not also make sense to stop encouraging consumption in the way that brown, obama and the govts everywhere are intent on encouraging?

[poodle559]

Climate change is just one mammoth myth designed to tax the living daylights out of people to keep the bankers and finance olygarch's happy in their figurative ivory towers.

These people are scum! venal terrorists of the lowest order. lie after lie after lie.

Clitmate change is a hoax and the EU is fully aware and going to rape us blind on this hoax.

[BarackTeleprompter]

What???!!!???

NO TELEPROMPTER!!!???!!!

WTF???!!!???

Too much of this and my relatives will all be out of business. I'm ok because I am still the top teleprompter in the United States!

[robitsme]

Your right daniel, we are noticing, but we have no rights to protest anymore. Our voices and liberties are slowly being eroded under the guise of anti terror laws. The public knows the biggest threat to us isn't terrorists, its our own goverments, but yet if we speak out about it we are called radicals, extremists, terrorists.

[ignoblius]

What is he saying in the last few seconds? Is it Latin? If it is, does anyone know the translation?

[nishicooray2]

"Pactio Olisipiensis Censenda Est"

("The Lisbon Treaty must be put to the vote")

[JCLeSinge]

That's not a direct quote (it is what it means); I can't find a direct translation on-line, but its a reference to a Roman (possibly Greek) politician who used to end all his speeches with a similar line.

[nishicooray2]

"I have been ending every speech, in a playful echo of Cato's "Delenda Est Carthago", with "Pacto Olisipiensis Censenda Est" The Lisbon Treaty must be Put to the Vote.'

- Hannan's blog

[JCLeSinge]

Yes, that's where I read it too."Pacto" is obviously "Treaty", but tell me, what is Latin for Lisbon? Its not a direct quote; it'll be a pun about democracy or treaties in general, the words "The Lisbon Treaty" or any variation thereon are not present in the quote. Yes, that is what he means, but its probably a phrase you could apply or adapt to numerous autocratic situations.

[nishicooray2]

I think Olisipiensis is the Latin name for Lisbon.

The Greeks knew Lisbon as Olissipo and "Olissipona"...Later on, the Greek name was corrupted in vulgar Latin to Olissipona.

(Wikipedia)

So I guess you can't use it in other situations

[JCLeSinge]

I have to say, I think you're right; if Olisipiensis is indeed the Latin form of Lisbon, then the rest of the sentence falls into place.

A direct quote it is, then.

[rtekbillabong]

This guy Daniel Hannan is fucking cool. I wish we had some polititians like him over here in the U.S. with some balls to call it how it is.

[gmaloney5]

We do. but they are ignored by the press. and suppressed by the party they are in.

[twieneke76]

Politicians who know Descartes? And can refer to him without a teleprompter?

For all that is holy, why can't we get some American conservative politicians to take a year or two to study in the UK?

[comfortablynumb4]

citing Descartes would be seen as elitist in the US... politicians dumb down their vocabulary to appeal to a wider audience (or in Sarah Palin's case they get away with it...). who wants to lose all those precious voters who've never read a single book ?

[twieneke76]

I disagree. Intelligent people are drawn to intelligent solutions by intelligent leaders and the "dumb" people as you suggest, simply do what they perceive the intelligent people are doing to make themselves feel smarter. The problem with the last campaign was McCain couldn't handle the pressure of entering into the slightest bit of debate with Obama. People, especially American conservatives, are not drawn to limp-wristed leadership.

[schwizzler]

Someone tell me what the last ten words are after each of his speeches?

[007ismyname]

"Pactio Olisipiensis censenda est."

[wildhorses0]

Listen to him Europe and America. What he says is truth/music to our ears.

[Hanserific]

America's politics are pure rhetoric. This man speaks eloquently, yet substantially.

[younisofarabia]

absolutely. No one in my country is really saying anything worth listening to, i.e. - not rhetoric. I sincerely hope that Hannan gives encouragement to those who want to show a backbone to come forward in this country. Unfortunately, presentation is hard to emulate. Hannan has the wit and presentation.

[Bibo59]

This guy is great, remember to vote for him next time around.

We need people like this to save the western civilization.

[younisofarabia]

Agreed, because it IS western civilization that is slipping.

[younisofarabia]

Where is the American version of Mr. Hannan? Can we draft this gent to come castigate our unbelievably blind ineffective politicians?

[foucachon]

That's what I've been thinking!!

We've lost our classical education...our presidential debates are juvenile...

We have a president who does things like brings the PM of UK a collection of the 25 classic American DVD's...(true story...yeah Obama is slick.... and btw, UK was quite offended...of course)

[sbuttgereit]

I cannot agree more. I first was introduced to Mr. Hannan's EU Parlimentary comments in his now famous address to PM Gordon Brown earlier today. To our point we have no credible opposition to statist tide sweeping our country... the Republicans in the past decade have supported statist principles through their medicare drug benefit, dept. of education expansion, and their government funding of faith based initiatives: same evil as the American left differing only in degree of application.

[rjfrjf65]

Ron Paul would be closest in my view........

[younisofarabia]

and mine. I am still carrying some animosity towards my own that they could not see past the attempts at making him look like a whacko and listen to what had to say... because it is far more sensible than what ANY OTHER CANDIDATE had to say, in my view. I list him among other common sensitives, with Hannan.

[rjfrjf65]

I don't agree with some of his ideas, but in terms of being a straight shooter and standing up for what he believes in, Ron Paul was far and away better than other candidates.

[AnimusFerrus]

Spot on. But I wonder, where were the other MP's?

[arfywarfy]

Super!!  The guy to Dan's right always smiles and claps when he finishes...

[nlpjohn]

This guy is poetry in motion. I bet his critics hate his guts. As Ben franklin said, "The sting of a reproach is the truth of it." This guy does a lot of stinging.... :)

[JCLeSinge]

He's onto a hiding to nothing with this one, talking to an empty chamber, but at least someone's bloody talking about it in Brussels. He's got the mood of the voters pegged spot-on, too.

[DrDave953]

What you say is true, he has caught the mood of the voters.

Unfortunately, where I live he could not be voted in, JUST BECAUSE HE'S TORY!

How bloody stupid is that?

Dave.

[alfamax4562]

I am sorry to bother you. I am from the US and I would like to know what % of the population is conservative or thinks like this man? I have tried to research this, but it is hard to find reliable info. Could you plz tell me where to look or could you answer my question?

[DrDave953]

I really don't know what proportion of the population is conservative.

Where I live it's a minority but, having said that, he has captured the mood of most people perfectly perfectly.

I hear similar things regularly across all of the political spectrum.

People tend to vote along party lines rather than policy which is plain stupid in my opinion.

Dave.

[2ndPistonHonda]

Libertarianism is the foundation of American lives and culture still. If you espouse small government, more freedom at a dinner party of regular people, you'll have almost everyone in the room agreeing with you, and even the few who don't would respect your point of view.

[showmesomevideos]

Ah, yes. But how do we toss out the bi-cameral system under which we've been enslaved since the ratification of the Constitution? With the electoral college firmly entrenched and the 2 parties working together (for a change) to ensure no third party shall be represented during the primaries, what is your proposal toward this end? I'm a Libertarian by nature and a Republican by default. I'm interested in your response. Truely.

[2ndPistonHonda]

The only way to fix our system is through Constitutional amendments proposed and ratified by the states, bypassing the Congress. We need a few amendments, including a tax & spend limitations amendment, that will cut the federal government down to size. In effect, the States need to tug the reigns on the federal government and show them that "hey, we're still in charge here".

[JCLeSinge]

The Tories (Conservatives) in the UK are roughly 35-36% of the vote, but that's not to say that Hannan is representative of the party views; what makes him so remarkable in my view is that he's a Conservative talking some sense.