Every A320 pilot I've spoken to said you can't and won't smell the aftermath of an engine bird strike from the cockpit. The A320 cockpit visibility is so good that pilots would never be caught off guard by a flock in clear skies. I.e., had to have flown into a known visible target from a few or more miles out. Everybody else on that aircraft interviewed in the immediate aftermath reported hearing a solitary explosion-like boom. No thuds. Sullenberger is reciting scripted lines.
I've got a couple of pilot friends. One has already said that a birdstrike cannot put an engine out.
That said, i've see that thompson video of a birdstrike that seems to cause trouble. the engines in a A320 are about 2m in diameter and need to move a 230 t airplane at over 166mph in order to take off. How on earth would a bird stop these engines? The fans would shred the bird, the debris would go into the engine, Do Rolls Royce not test for this? i think they do
Birds can absolutely destroy jet engines. But that's not what happened to Sullenberger. If the alleged story were true it would make a combined 63 years ATP cockpit experience and untold millions of dollars for the most modern wildlife radar technology and full time NY radar staff the laughingstock of commercial aviation for failing to detect and/or hit birds easily identifiable from miles away.
It being mid-Jan, weren't migrating. What goose, if not migrating, would expend the valuable energy to get up 2000' or higher, when their food supply, grasses etc, is 2000' or more below them?
What goose wouldn't notice a big bird heading for them or not bother to take evasive action?
If they did tangle with geese, why hasn't the final incident report, over a year now, been released yet?
Not only have I personally witnessed large flocks of Canadian geese in formation at 4000'+ in mid-Dec-mid-Jan over Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio, other pilots I meet have seen them as well. Yes, they have the ability to see and manuver around large airliners as well as small private planes like mine but the flock is, usually, only as competent as its leader. NTSB report? I have no credible information as to why all the dragging feet so I will make no assumptions.
"Every A320 pilot I've spoken to said you can't and won't smell the aftermath of an engine bird strike from the cockpit."... LMAOX2
You might want to talk to experienced pilots, like me, before posting this type of BS.
Also, in flight 1549's climb-out attitude, you wouldn't have seen the birds, even in the best of conditions, with their asses on fire, unless, of course, you could see through the fuselage/cockpit floor. NTSB has stated they have the "thud" sounds on tape.
Are you saying, even if were 15deg pitch at 0fpm climb rate (which would be a problem), both pilots would have zero forward visibility? Can I borrow your BS?
If a pilot cant see forward out of an A320 on normal departure climb gradient, they wont be seeing any plane heading for them. And if cant, the plane wouldnt be certified to fly.
The Capt. and FO not only saw alleged birds, said they did, and printed in the media.
that cracker aint no hero all you pepole on this page sucking his dick like he did something amazeing he just did what he new he could do,,,you assholes are just dumb fucks!!!!!!....lol sike iam just playing i needed to talk shit to release stress....he did a good job!!!!
"When did you notice the birds hit the plane?" You don't need to be a pilot to know that one. "Did the birds come out of nowhere?" They must have come from somewhere." did you realize right away that the engines were failing?" Well odviously Katie, he took immediate action you dumb hoe. Chesley Sullenburger is my hero! You rock Chesley. Katie Couric, go back to kindergarten if you are asking simple questions like this you dumb hooker.
Sully is awesome!
helobelow 1 year ago
you know that people should be calling the writers dumb, not Katie Couric
runway34r 1 year ago
@runway34r writers dont write questions. journalists write their own questions.
billfitz420 9 months ago
@billfitz420 hmm. didnt know that. Interesting.
runway34r 9 months ago
Every A320 pilot I've spoken to said you can't and won't smell the aftermath of an engine bird strike from the cockpit. The A320 cockpit visibility is so good that pilots would never be caught off guard by a flock in clear skies. I.e., had to have flown into a known visible target from a few or more miles out. Everybody else on that aircraft interviewed in the immediate aftermath reported hearing a solitary explosion-like boom. No thuds. Sullenberger is reciting scripted lines.
RenoDoctor 2 years ago
I've got a couple of pilot friends. One has already said that a birdstrike cannot put an engine out.
That said, i've see that thompson video of a birdstrike that seems to cause trouble. the engines in a A320 are about 2m in diameter and need to move a 230 t airplane at over 166mph in order to take off. How on earth would a bird stop these engines? The fans would shred the bird, the debris would go into the engine, Do Rolls Royce not test for this? i think they do
billaroyamaha2 2 years ago
Birds can absolutely destroy jet engines. But that's not what happened to Sullenberger. If the alleged story were true it would make a combined 63 years ATP cockpit experience and untold millions of dollars for the most modern wildlife radar technology and full time NY radar staff the laughingstock of commercial aviation for failing to detect and/or hit birds easily identifiable from miles away.
RenoDoctor 2 years ago
@RenoDoctor
That radar technology has never had a success rate of greater than 40% for migratory birds flying at over 2000'.
ZQPYU 2 years ago
It being mid-Jan, weren't migrating. What goose, if not migrating, would expend the valuable energy to get up 2000' or higher, when their food supply, grasses etc, is 2000' or more below them?
What goose wouldn't notice a big bird heading for them or not bother to take evasive action?
If they did tangle with geese, why hasn't the final incident report, over a year now, been released yet?
RenoDoctor 2 years ago
@RenoDoctor
Not only have I personally witnessed large flocks of Canadian geese in formation at 4000'+ in mid-Dec-mid-Jan over Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio, other pilots I meet have seen them as well. Yes, they have the ability to see and manuver around large airliners as well as small private planes like mine but the flock is, usually, only as competent as its leader. NTSB report? I have no credible information as to why all the dragging feet so I will make no assumptions.
ZQPYU 2 years ago
@billaroyamaha2
"I've got a couple of pilot friends. One has already said that a birdstrike cannot put an engine out."...WTF. I wouldn't fly with those "friends".
Thompson's hit was a small bird, not multiple, ave. 13lb, Canadian geese.
ZQPYU 2 years ago
@RenoDoctor
"Every A320 pilot I've spoken to said you can't and won't smell the aftermath of an engine bird strike from the cockpit."... LMAOX2
You might want to talk to experienced pilots, like me, before posting this type of BS.
Also, in flight 1549's climb-out attitude, you wouldn't have seen the birds, even in the best of conditions, with their asses on fire, unless, of course, you could see through the fuselage/cockpit floor. NTSB has stated they have the "thud" sounds on tape.
ZQPYU 2 years ago
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A320s are not the Space Shuttle.
Are you saying, even if were 15deg pitch at 0fpm climb rate (which would be a problem), both pilots would have zero forward visibility? Can I borrow your BS?
If a pilot cant see forward out of an A320 on normal departure climb gradient, they wont be seeing any plane heading for them. And if cant, the plane wouldnt be certified to fly.
The Capt. and FO not only saw alleged birds, said they did, and printed in the media.
RenoDoctor 2 years ago
that cracker aint no hero all you pepole on this page sucking his dick like he did something amazeing he just did what he new he could do,,,you assholes are just dumb fucks!!!!!!....lol sike iam just playing i needed to talk shit to release stress....he did a good job!!!!
matikhan 3 years ago
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RenoDoctor 2 years ago
"When did you notice the birds hit the plane?" You don't need to be a pilot to know that one. "Did the birds come out of nowhere?" They must have come from somewhere." did you realize right away that the engines were failing?" Well odviously Katie, he took immediate action you dumb hoe. Chesley Sullenburger is my hero! You rock Chesley. Katie Couric, go back to kindergarten if you are asking simple questions like this you dumb hooker.
YYZZZYYY 3 years ago 3
Questo pilota è un mito! Bravissimo!
walty71 3 years ago
that woman was dumb. 'was it serious?' i mean duh of course its serious retard.
Guydabest 3 years ago 4
Katie Couric is a DUNCE!
gary870 3 years ago
Katie Couric is such a turd
Zenon2006 3 years ago
ha ha ... was just thinking the same thing ... she doesn't even deserve the interview
jglaneus 3 years ago
This story was awesome. He stayed cool in a dire situation.
thenich412 3 years ago
this man will always be, inside my heart, a REAL hero!
amazing interview!
nanioushka 3 years ago