This vid is still so relevant, especially these days. I don't care who or what your name is, ty for posting this! I remember seeing this in the very early MTV days.
@PoffyTheCucumber Are you serious HAHA You are asking about my name ? LOL If you knew a little American history you would know where the name I am using came from ! ;)
@atomicplayboy4u - Only a mind-muddled republican with absolutely no sense of humor would reply like that. I should've known better than to try to make a joke with an anti-Obama moron. Please don't embarrass yourself with another reply: unless you want to continue showing the world how brainless you truly are. Rainbow's message is not for the likes of you, moron.
Yep, back then was the only time I watched MTV. This vid was always on and was one of the few that I remember seeing. I thought it was great. The song so powerful and speaking such scary truths about the world and wars. Makes you think and worry about all the sh*t going on. Still holds true. This vid is what got me into listing to Rainbow much after that. JLT's marvelous voice!
Love that line: "People out of work but there's people on the moon." 1:10. And more prescience at: 2:44 "We got everything we need for a peaceful time / Take what you want but you can't take mine."
can hardly describe the anticipation one would have in the early days of Watching MTV Waiting for either Run To The Hills, Fish Heads, Donnie Iris,Zebra But This in front Of All of 'em.
Let me get this straight !! The Republicans stand for corrupt big businesses and the Democrats stand for the equally corrupt big unions and special interest entitlement organisations ...is that right ? Seems to me that they both stand for themselves and no matter who you vote for you're going to get screwed if you are the average little guy .
Hey, we're still cleaning up after 8 years of Republican rule! Unless your family OWNS a fortune 500 company what good will voting Republican do for you? Think people - the Democratic party is supposed to stand for the people NOT large corporations like the Republicans. Read a book (not the Bible) and educate yourself!
@PoffyTheCucumber Yes I know. I was admiring the lyrics and also Blackmores ability to sometimes fly "under the radar". Only in times like now, does some of Blackmores "MAGIC" become realised.
Its great to hear, when compared to some of the absolute CRAP that is heard on radios these days!!!!!!!
Actually, no they're not. The writing credits for this song are "Blackmore/Glover." If Joe had written any of the lyrics, I'm sure he'd have been credited.
Interesting Rainbow song. Most of the Joe Lynn Turner era of Rainbow was very deliberately more commercial. This song has a very 70's/Deep Purple feel. Richie is one of the greatest.
Oh-you fags into politics and the like....I recommend a past-life reading; invest in your personal history truth instead of empowering ignorance; music's an expression, sometimes, as here an epiphany, but 4 fux ache man feel the vibe of the music don't "be lawyers", lovers of debate, seldom seeking truth....
Contaminated fish and micro chips Huge supertankers on arabian trips Oily propaganda from the leaders' lips All about the future There's people over here, people over there Everybody's looking for a little more air Crossing all the borders just to take their share Planning for the future And we're so abused, and we're so confused It's easy to believe that someone's gonna light the fuse Can't happen here, can't happen here All that you fear they're telling you, can't happen here
plattenandy said, "Ron Dinelli was his given name. He chose "Bobby" as a pre-name in high school to hide his embarrasment at being linked to a local felon."
Wow ... okay, I stand corrected. Heh heh ... as Ed McMahon used to say to Johnny Carson, "I did not know that!" Interesting bit of trivia. Thanks for the correction.
or Rainbow. Although many cite Django Reinhardt as a major influence including Ritchie, not many
have been able to fuse the Swing with the Rock/Metal like Ritchie has, just another bit of evidence for skeptics that Ritchie is probably the most versatile guitarist ever.
Depite how CORRUPT the current administration is, and not matter how much of a WAR CRIMINAL he is, give it about 20 years and the water carriers on the right will try to tel everyone how "great" a president George W. Bush was. The conservative can revise, distort, and manipulate history with the best of them. The Nazis were good at that too.
This has become a waste of time. I feel like I'm arguing with a child. The original issues, per YOUR posting, was whether or not Reagan deserved any credit for helping America win the Cold War. Ever since my initial responses outlining, in detail, his undeniable role and contributions (many of which I didn't even have room to mention), you have evaded my challenges to disprove, factually, any of my points. And the one time you tried, you put forth utter nonsense about perestroika & glasnost.
And like leftists always do when they get caught lying or find themselves unable to defend their position with anything other than irrational emotion, you have made numerous attempts to change the subject. You've gone off on Reagan supposedly "refusing to help farmers," an "illegal war in South America" (BTW, it was Central America, not South America *rolls eyes*), an utterly bizarre and clueless explanation of perestroika and glasnost, Gerald Ford, Bush, and the Nazis.
And just like Right wing extremists do when they are backed into a corner, they engage in fear mongering, and they wheel out the "Patriotism Card". Whether it is a GUTLESS ATTACK ON A HERO SUCH AS MAX CLEELAND'S PATRIOTISM, OR OTHER GUTLESS MOVES SUCH AS REVEALING VALERY PLAME'S INDENTITY, IT IS ALWAYS THE SAME THING. WHEN SOMEONE HAS THE GUTS TO QUESTION BANKRUPT CONSERVATIVE POLICIES, THEY ARE LABLED AS "UNEDUCATED ON THE ISSUES", OR THEY ARE LABELED A "SUBVERT", OR WORSE, UNAMERICAN.
As this thread has progressed, your posts have revealed more and more of your true ideology and agenda. Whether or not Reagan deserves any credit vis-a-vis the Cold War is actually irrelevant to you. You are simply a hater who was indoctrinated at an early age into leftist/Marxist ideology, and you will never change.
See, this is exactly what I mean. You bitch and moan when I compare the right wing propoganda/fear mongering machine to the Nazis, yet you wheel out the "Patriotism Card", by calling my beliefs "Marxist". Although I don't even for a second, have to justify how American my beliefs are to an empty-suit bag carrier for Ronald Reagan, i will simply say that you were indoctrinated at an early age into right wing extremist, Joseph Geobbles ideology.
The one thing I will agree with you on is Nixon. He was dishonest, no doubt about it. And don't get me started on the Republican party of today -- many of them are as dishonest and crooked as the Democrats, just in different ways. Both major parties in this country have been taken over by self-serving greedmongers, ideologues and extremists. The Democrats seek to create a society dependant on government (so that people have to vote for them), and many Republicans care primarily about greed.
The Republican party heirarchy of today bears little resemblance to the party of Ronald Reagan. There are some standout Republicans like Bobby Jindal, but then there are creeps & crooks like Dennis Hastert, Ted Stevens and others. The Democratic party changed dramatically in the late 1960s from the supply-side economics (like Reagan *wink*) and anti-Marxist ideology of JFK and Harry Truman to one of quasi-socialism under the direction of George McGovern, Jimmy Carter and Ted Kennedy.
And before you accuse me of "going off on tangents" myself, I'm simply mentioning these things to illustrate that I am not a partisan Republican by any stretch. I am definitely conservative on most issues (but not all), but I am not a water-carrying ideologue for anyone.
I think we've taken this argument about as far as it can go. FWIW, I apologize for calling you "dumb as ..." yesterday. I don't typically engage in name-calling, and that was uncalled for. Let's just agree to disagree.
Why waste your time with a jackass like that? He/She posted half a dozen bullshit rants backing this loser President who will go down as one of the worst and most crooked of all time.
Er, arguably he did. The Soviets could not compete with the Star Wars programme which he put in place, this helped push their economy into meltdown. Hence Gorbachev trying to reform the system and resultant demands for political freedom.
I've been waiting to see this video again for years. It was burned into my memory back in the day; a great song with poignant images. Thanks for putting it up.
Ditto. :-) Also Joe Lynn Turner's best vocal ever IMHO.
Having lived thru the latter half of the Cold War, I remember how high tensions were here in the U.S. and also Western Europe in 1981. Lyrically, this song captures that tension and how "It's easy to believe someone's gonna light the fuse." Tense times ....
No, Reagan did not win the Cold War. What enabled us to win the Cold War was, Russia overextending themselves in Afhanistan, the Berlin Wall falling, Russia's economy collapsing, and Chernoble. At the time, the Soviet Union could no longer afford to continue the standoff against us. Reagan had NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THSES FACTORS. LEARN YOUR HISTORY!!!
Yes Im a flaming idiot.The Berlin wall fell due to the fact the USSR was broke.Why were they broke? REAGAN. Why did there economy collapse. They spent all they could on the military. You are answering your own comment.
You sure are a Flaming Idiot, and a FUCKING STUPID one too. The Berlin Wall fell due to the fact that Germany wanted to become one nation,and thus the USSR's control over East Germany would end. Russia's economy fell apart because of their failed occuptation of Afganistan, as well as the Chernoble disaster. Now in less than 5,000 words, and without quoting bankrupt Conservative propoganda, explain IN DETAIL how Reagan was responsible for a failed military mission, and a continent-wide recession.
Whether you liked or disliked Ronald Reagan, the significant role he played in enabling America to prevail in the Cold War is historical fact.
Mikhail Gorbachev repeatedly cited Reagan as a significant influence in his decision to enact the western-influenced policies of perestroika & glasnost in the mid-80s. Due to Gorbachev's underestimation of the resistance to reforms, perestroika & glasnost together set in motion (unintentionally) the events that led to the economic collapse of the USSR.
Perestroika enabled regional autonomy, which resulted in local & republic governments withholding critical tax revenues from the central government. The loss of centralized control also led to a devastating decline in production of consumer goods, and Soviet oligarchs enriched themselves at their country's expense. The meltdown at Chernobyl was a humanitarian disaster and a national embarrassment, but to cite it as a key factor in the country's economic collapse is factually incorrect.
Okay, so now you are quoting Perestroika as evidence that Reagan had anything at all to do with the fall of the Soviet Union? Again, you are right that the loss of centralized governmet control and the corruption that goes along with that were factors in the demise of the Soviet Union. However, you STILL HAVE NOT demonstrated how Reagan ND REAGAN ALONE had anything at all to do with those factors.
Quote: "you STILL HAVE NOT demonstrated how Reagan ND REAGAN ALONE had anything at all to do with those factors."
When did I say he did it alone? I never said that. Reagan's indirect role in perestroika and glasnost was that his policies and strength -- and, ironically, his genuine friendship with Gorbachev -- persuaded Gorbachev to enact those western-style reforms. Unfortunately for Gorbachev, he had no way of foreseeing the unintended consequences. Did we benefit from that? Yep. :-)
Once again, Chernobyl in and of itself was not the reason for the fall of the Soviet Union, just like Reagan being president was not, however, it was a very big factor. The Russian economy was already falling apart, and then the Chernobyl meltdown occured, which further damaged a sector of the Russian economy that the Soviets relied heavily on.
Re Chernobyl, you said previously, "Russia's economy fell apart because of their failed occupation of Afganistan (sic), as well as the Chernoble (sic) disaster." Those are your exact words.
Ascribing such importance to Chernobyl in the overall scheme of the USSR's economic collapse is simply inaccurate. It obviously didn't help, but it was not one of two key reasons (along with Afghanistan) for its collapse as you alleged earlier.
Okay, I will try to spell this out as as imply as possibe, because you obviously can't comprehend basic concepts:
CHERNOBYL BY ITSELF, DID NOT BRING DOWN THE SOVIET UNION, BUT IT PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN THE DOWNFALL, BECAUSE IT FURTHER DAMAGED AN ALREADY TERRIBLE ECONOMY, AND A SECTOR THAT THE SOVIETS RELIED HEAVILY ON. THINK ABOUT WHAT 9/11 DID TO OUR ECONOMY, GENIUS BOY.
Lastly, let's agree that this is a complex topic that can't properly be discussed within the limitations of this site's 500-character limit for postings. And we could go back & forth all day & barely scratch the surface.
I was simply trying to educate you about some things you either weren't aware of or chose to ignore about Reagan's contribution to America winning the Cold War. Getting your info from far left Web sites, or Keith Olbermann or wherever you get it, is not serving you well.
I don't get my information from "far left websites, and Olberman,etc.", I lived through that time period and I know EXACTLY WHAT WENT ON IN THE LATE 80'S, AND EARLY 90'S. I also remember a teacher of mine saying that years after Reagan is dead, his WATER CARRIERS on the right will try to revise history, and try to put him on Mount Rushmore, simply for being president when the Soviet Union's economy collapsed, and their occupation of Afghanistan failed. How prophetic he was.
Ahh ... a "teacher of mine." Gee, what a surprise. Lemme guess, one of the litany of lying, pseudo-intellectual college professors that indoctrinate America's youth with their anti-America, Marxist claptrap? That figures. And you drank the Kool-Aid.
I pointed out, in some detail, Reagan's direct and indirect contributions to winning the Cold War and the fall of the USSR. SPECIFICALLY, which ones of those do you assert are false? Don't evade the question -- answer it.
Call him whatever you want, because he was EXACTLY RIGHT. REAGAN DID NOTHING TO END THE COLD WAR, BUT A WATER CARRIER LIKE YOU WANTS TO PUT REAGAN ON RUSHMORE, SIMPLY FOR BEING PRESIDENT WHEN THE SOVIET ECONOMY FELL APART AND THE AFHANISTAN OCCUPATION FAILED
Oh, okay. Reagan did nothing. And all the factual information I put forth in my original 5 or 6 posts was all just "bankrupt conservative propaganda." Whatever you say. *rolls eyes*
I can't imagine how miserable it must be to be a lying, corrupt leftist. Fact after fact disproves your failed, dispicable ideology, yet you cling to it still.
I challenged you to SPECIFICALLY disprove the points I made in my original posts, and you evade the challenge because you have no credible reply.
"Perestroika & Glasnost", ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??? You do realize that the Soviets enacted that policy to help Soviet immigrants assimilate into American culture, right? The Russians knew that after the Soviet Union fell, people would be leaving Russia for the United States in droves, which was exactly what happened. Those policies also ahd to do with a greater acceptance of American culture as well. Of course, Reagan was resonsible for the Soviets accepting western culture too, right?
Are you on crack? You are just dumber than a big bag of Rosie O'Donnells. Where are you getting this bizarre information? Which far left Web site is dispensing your Kool-Aid today? Go to Wikipedia and search for "History of the Soviet Union" or "fall of the Soviet Union." Or make it easier on yourself -- just search for "glasnost" and "perestroika."
Actually, JERKOFF the teacher was right-leaning in a lot of his beliefs, and did work for alot of Conservative politicians. Nice try. I have already pointed out about 999888999888997788888 times how BANKRUPT your argument is.
Even before the Soviet economy began unraveling in the mid-1980s, Reagan had already begun rebuilding what was left of the military he inherited from the Carter administration and ratcheting up an arms race he believed the USSR couldn't sustain. Deployment of Pershing missiles in Western Europe, the SDI initiative, and the huge military buildup were all initiated by Reagan, and they made it clear the U.S. was putting its foot on the Cold War's gas pedal and challenging the Soviets to keep up.
Again, you are right that Reagan ratched up the arms race by deploying missles,etc. However, he did that simply to "flex American muscle", and he did so at the expense of our economy here at home. Of course, it should also be noted that this heavy military spending contributed to one of our worst recessions since the 1950's, but that is beside the point in this discussion.
Your comments about "flexing America's muscle at the expense of our economy" and "one of the worst recessions since the 1950s" are factually incorrect. The worst economy in decades had taken place under Reagan's predecessor, Jimmy Carter. Interest rates that reached 19%, double-digit inflation, and sky high unemployment had America reeling, and Reagan turned all of that around. But as you said, that is beside the point in this discussion (and would take too long to discuss properly).
The bad economy which started in the late 70's, as a result of the energy crisis, continued until the early 80's, and was not helped by the fact that domestic spending took a backseat to military spending, and also took a backseat to the ILLEGAL WAR that was fought in South America uner Reagan.
Quote: "The bad economy which started in the late 70's, as a result of the energy crisis ...."
Wow. I see ... so it wasn't Carter and the Congressional Democrats' runaway taxing and spending that caused the bad economy, it was the "energy crisis"? And you accuse me of drinking the Kool-Aid. That's hilarious. It must hurt you to type things like that when even you know how ridiculous they are.
And now you're evading the original issue by going off on tangents about the American economy.
Yes, history hasalready shown that Carter's presidency was a failure, but some circumstances have to be factored in #1:The energy crisis/the OPEC embrago. #2: hE FOLLOWED (after Gerald Ford), yet another CORRUPT, CRIMINAL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT (perhaps you have heard of him0, that ordered a break in of a famous hotel, and then was caught RED HANDED destroying the evidence. As a result, people's faith in government was lost forever. Carter's presidency was no worse than thhe current adiminstration
Smialek316 said, "Yes, history has already shown that Carter's presidency was a failure, but some circumstances have to be factored in #1:The energy crisis/the OPEC embrago."
Huh? The OPEC oil embargo/energy crisis occurred from October 1973 to March 1974. Jimmy Carter didn't take office until January 1977, nearly 3 years AFTER the embargo and "energy crisis" ended. So what are you talking about?
Are you really this ignorant or are you just intentionally lying?
Smialek316 said, "hE FOLLOWED (after Gerald Ford), yet another CORRUPT, CRIMINAL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT (perhaps you have heard of him0, that ordered a break in of a famous hotel, and then was caught RED HANDED destroying the evidence. As a result, people's faith in government was lost forever."
How was Nixon "caught red handed destroying the evidence"? What evidence? Again, what are you talking about?
People's faith in government was lost forever? Really? Forever? How so?
The Soviets tried to keep up but failed. The USSR was spending almost as much on its armed forces as the U.S. up until the mid-1980s, but with a GDP that was merely a fraction of that of the U.S. and in decline. Reagan's knew what he was doing. Eventually, along with the other institutions of Soviet society, the military ran out of money. As numerous republics began asserting their autonomy and breaking away, the formidable power of the centralized Soviet military fragmented as well.
You are right that the Soviets were trying to keep up but failed, you are right that their republics were breaking away, and that their economy was in ruins. By stating those obvious facts, you have further demonstrated that Reagan was simply lucky that he was president when all of the above factors were crippling Russia.
Quote: " ... Reagan was simply lucky that he was president when all of the above factors were crippling Russia."
Again, you are incorrect. Had Reagan not persuaded our Congress and our electorate of the efficacy of a massive military buildup, the USSR would have been able to scale back military spending to a far lesser percentage of their GDP and direct that money towards dealing with their decaying economy. Our massive military buildup under Reagan dramatically hastened their collapse.
Wow, you really drink the Conservative Kool-Aid. ONCE AGAIN, if all of the previously stated factors did not happen, we would still be fighting the Copld War today, as Richard Clark (who you may know is a Republican) stated in his book Against All Enemies. Clark said that both the Soviets and the United States were in the Cold War for the long haul, and both nations counter-intelligence programs were designed to last for decades. Of course, you probably think that Clark is a "traitor".
It is you that is drinking the Kool-Aid brewed up by Soros, MoveOn, Olbermann, Clinton, Obama, and the rest of that lying, intractably corrupt ilk. Or should I say "bankrupt leftist propaganda"? *wink*
Believe what you want. Leftists aren't interested in facts -- they believe what they want to believe based on emotion. In my earlier posts, I responded factually to your false assertion about Reagan having nothing whatsoever to do with winning the Cold War, and pointed out where you were wrong.
I don't know if I'd go so far as to labor Richard Clark a traitor, but he is a liar whose false allegations were dismantled, one by one with painstaking detail, by Charles Krauthammer way back when. Clark, just like Sandy "how many incriminating documents from the National Archives can I steal and stuff down my pants and dispose of" Berger and a number of other Clinton administration buffoons, has lied thru his teeth to cover up his culpability in the intelligence failures that led to 9/11.
Immediately following Reagan's death in 2004, none other than Ted Kennedy proclaimed, "Ronald Reagan won the cold war." While it's an oversimplification to say any one person won the war (though people knew what Kennedy meant), his policies and the personal strength he projected forced the Soviets to prioritize military spending over domestic. And the fact that he actually befriended Gorbachev was a monumental factor in easing Soviet paranoia and possibly even preventing a Soviet "first strike."
That is very touching that you conviently quote Ted Kennedy in 2004, after Reagan has passed away. What did you expect him to say? Of course he is going to be respectful. Did you expect him to bring up the fact that under Reagan, defense spending tripled that of domestic spending, especially Cancer research? or the fact that he refused to help out family farmers? Gorbachov and the Soviets had no choice but to negotiate with us. We were the lesser of two evils, just like in World War II.
Ted Kennedy didn't say what he said out of "respect" -- he said what he said more than once, and humbly admitted he had been wrong all along about the Democrats' proposed "nuclear freeze" (which the Soviets would have reneged on) being the only way to deal with the Soviets.
Defense spending had to be dramatically increased in order to undo the disgraceful neglect of the military and intelligence departments that took place under the spineless, feckless Carter administration.
"spineless and feckless, Carter Administration"? That is what it always comes down to with you Conservatives. When in doubt, wheel out the "Patriotism card. That has to do with the John Wayne Complex that Reagan had. Such is to be expected from a Chief Executive that acted the part of President. Waging an illegal war in South America (which aided the drug trade), was not only spineless and feckless, but GUTLESS TOO!!!, and an offense that should have gotten his ass TOSSED OUT OUT OF OFFICE!!
The state of this country under the Carter administration spoke for itself. It has nothing to do with a "patriotism card." This is another lie the liberal left has sold you.
You've lost -- quite obviously and publicly -- the argument over Reagan's role in helping win the Cold War and the fall of the USSR, so now you're veering off onto all sorts of tangents to evade that fact. I'll let my original series of posts, in response to your original, speak for themselves.
You keep running your mouth on and one about "lies the liberal left has sold me".etc. Nobody has sold me a thing. I lived through that time period, and I know exactly what happened, and what didn't happen. you STILL, have not demonstrated EXACTLY how RONALD REAGAN AND RONALD REAGAN ALONE had any influence on a Russian economy that was already in a deep recession, and how RONAALD REAGAN ALONE had any influence on a failed occupation of Afghanistan that was begun before he was president.
What does defense spending vs. domestic spending here in the U.S. have to do with the your original false assertion about Reagan's role in the cold war? You are throwing out red herrings to divert attention from the real issue.
And keep in mind that ALL federal spending is done by Congress, so whatever spending was done vis-a-vis defense over cancer research of "helping farmers" had to be approved by Congress, which was controlled by Democrats for all of Reagan's 8 years in office. *wink*
Regardless of whether one liked or disliked him, the success of Reagan's unique leadership during the Cold War is historically undeniable. To simplistically claim, "Russia's economy fell apart because of their failed occupation of Afganistan (sic), as well as the Chernoble (sic) disaster" displays a profound ignorance of Soviet history and the Cold War. Maybe it's you, smialek316, who needs to "learn your history."
think he did an d so did mrs thatcher learn your histroy mate what won afghanistn was the stinger missile introduced in sept 1986 no air support travel on roads for cccp sldiers ideal for mujihadeen to attack casualties up think about that
Great song! I know a lot of people lost interest in Rainbow after Dio left, but I think Joe Lynn Turner was terrific. If it hasn't been done already, someone should do a post-9/11 update of this video!
Loved this tune and video when it came out. Glad to finally see it again. Still as good as ever. Thanks for posting.
virginiapicker 2 weeks ago
Talk about a song that was way ahead of it's time. These lyrics ring so true today
iago1616 2 months ago in playlist iago1616's favorites 9
This is as good now as it was then.
Thanks.
R117552 3 months ago
Yes, I remember this being on MTV, when it first came out
I does have more meaning in todays world ...
Of course it couldn't happen here (lol)
silverdollar3 4 months ago
SWEET!
nightskies4u 5 months ago
this is a ronnie james dio song right
garrhettsrifle 5 months ago
@garrhettsrifle I don't know who wrote it..but that is Joe Lynn Turner singing.
davehutchinson67 4 months ago
@garrhettsrifle No, that was after Dio left and Joe Lynn Turner became the singer.
rhoadnaroahs 1 month ago
I freakin adore this song, so awesome! old school hard rock to its best!
squirralicious 5 months ago
Christ Tony Carey looks the same still, after 30 years!
Yiannos1712 5 months ago
Heavy Metal with a Green Conscience ~ Nice :))
upstatelugh 6 months ago
NOW THIS IS ROCK n ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
immerderraine 6 months ago
Most people probably had never heard of a microchip when this song came out.
glimmer2158 6 months ago
I hear ya Loco! it fits so well with the way its is today!
dixieink64 7 months ago
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so true today! infowars .com
MrDevildriver9 7 months ago
30 years old and I would believe they wrote it yesterday.
JewLoco 8 months ago
love ritchies witchfinder general hat !
TheMichaelseymour 9 months ago
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Its like they could see the Future.
rs5150rs1 9 months ago
Its like they could see the Future
rs5150rs1 9 months ago
This really strikes home now. How prophetic.
romaneeto 10 months ago
this has always been my favourite J.L.T. era song. great lyrics.
MrSeamus65 10 months ago
plenty of dicks here man ??
itstwaterman 10 months ago
And damn, 30 years later?! Holy fuck!
Marilyn1966 10 months ago
This vid is still so relevant, especially these days. I don't care who or what your name is, ty for posting this! I remember seeing this in the very early MTV days.
Marilyn1966 10 months ago
LBJ was secretly a Jew and had JFK killed so Israel could get nukes.
glimmer2158 11 months ago
Poučan tekst :D
Nbgd1988 11 months ago
The guitar player on the right looks like he is trippin hard on cocaine. Dam the 80's.
Savages4U 11 months ago
Hey everybody, this is Paul Morris from the last version of Rainbow 94-97
I think this was the video that one the first MTV video award, not sure, but I think.
moogy77 1 year ago
Indeed obama ! What the f**k kind of name is obama you morons !
atomicplayboy4u 1 year ago
@atomicplayboy4u - What the f**k kind of name is atomicplayboy4u? You a radioactive alien philanderer, buddy?
PoffyTheCucumber 10 months ago
@PoffyTheCucumber Are you serious HAHA You are asking about my name ? LOL If you knew a little American history you would know where the name I am using came from ! ;)
atomicplayboy4u 10 months ago
@atomicplayboy4u - Only a mind-muddled republican with absolutely no sense of humor would reply like that. I should've known better than to try to make a joke with an anti-Obama moron. Please don't embarrass yourself with another reply: unless you want to continue showing the world how brainless you truly are. Rainbow's message is not for the likes of you, moron.
PoffyTheCucumber 10 months ago
LOL You have an intelligent name. LMFAO !
atomicplayboy4u 10 months ago
"people out of work but there's people on the moon"
aitraining 1 year ago
Wow looks like commie china ! Where are all the green pigs ?
atomicplayboy4u 1 year ago
Yep, back then was the only time I watched MTV. This vid was always on and was one of the few that I remember seeing. I thought it was great. The song so powerful and speaking such scary truths about the world and wars. Makes you think and worry about all the sh*t going on. Still holds true. This vid is what got me into listing to Rainbow much after that. JLT's marvelous voice!
ladybluluv 1 year ago
KGB and CIA!!)))
Ritchie Blackmore is so Great here!!!
z603dauren 1 year ago 3
@z603dauren I agree...but when is Ritchie Blackmore not great? :)
ValsHot357 11 months ago
@z603dauren I agree...but when is Ritchie Blackmore NOT great? :)
ValsHot357 11 months ago
fast taker XD
HSDABEL 1 year ago
kove it!!!!!!!!!
SuperCher69 1 year ago
Joe Lynn Turner is one of the best vocalists ever.
padme1969 1 year ago
Love that line: "People out of work but there's people on the moon." 1:10. And more prescience at: 2:44 "We got everything we need for a peaceful time / Take what you want but you can't take mine."
PoffyTheCucumber 1 year ago
best video ever made.
otheroshow 1 year ago
Appropriate for the state of the world - Watch the Gas go over $ 4 a gallon in the video -- Pollution, OIL Spills, Unemployment, IRAN etc.
Russian Spies -- This really Makes you think !
watertigerrr 1 year ago
Fuck i love JLT era of Rainbow, that dude had a magical voice!
SlackBabbathTs 1 year ago
I suppose considering the lyrical content of this song it was inevitable that we'd up with a political debate...yawnnnnnnn.
Just enjoy the music guys !!!
applebeatle 1 year ago
very cool song
gongo121 1 year ago
can hardly describe the anticipation one would have in the early days of Watching MTV Waiting for either Run To The Hills, Fish Heads, Donnie Iris,Zebra But This in front Of All of 'em.
Longetty 1 year ago
I can't believe Ronnie James Dio had ever been in a version of "this" band. He was doing Mob Rules by this time.
ThorOdinson14 1 year ago
god this is good!!!!
mmm888777 1 year ago
Read PD Scott. Red no different from Blue. "...the CIA, the KGB and the MAN IN GRAY..."
naughtmoses 1 year ago
One of the few smart things MTV ever did was put this on heavy rotation in 1982.
swetergrl91 1 year ago 2
at the end of this viedo doesent the earth blow up ???...
xifxyouxseexkayx 1 year ago
yeah, doesn't it?
I animated a mushroom cloud in my high school film class.
Pre-Solidarnosc of course.
8laneblacktop 1 year ago
i thought so,- thanks for the reply!
xifxyouxseexkayx 1 year ago
Let me get this straight !! The Republicans stand for corrupt big businesses and the Democrats stand for the equally corrupt big unions and special interest entitlement organisations ...is that right ? Seems to me that they both stand for themselves and no matter who you vote for you're going to get screwed if you are the average little guy .
prydonian460 2 years ago
Hey, we're still cleaning up after 8 years of Republican rule! Unless your family OWNS a fortune 500 company what good will voting Republican do for you? Think people - the Democratic party is supposed to stand for the people NOT large corporations like the Republicans. Read a book (not the Bible) and educate yourself!
eructication 2 years ago 3
Kinda funny this song came out in 81 and is still relevant today...It did happen here.And all that they have been telling you"it cant happen here"LOL
sstotenkopf70 2 years ago 3
dont worry the the pig commie obama will save ya sorry ass LMFAO !
atomicplayboy4u 2 years ago
This is my favorite song evah, Period, Full stop. Ritchie and company were ahead of their time.
WuMing426 2 years ago
Is this like Sinclair Lewis Cant Happen Here Socialism!
alldaycruz 2 years ago
class from an under rated band brilliant
and thelyrics too as said way ahead and wonder whowill light the fuse/ not the ussr though
sporta607 2 years ago 2
Flash pots ftw.
witchman1 2 years ago
WOW these lyrics are SO relevant now than ever!!!
As usual the magic of Blackmore, very underated and standing the test of time.
ntsms69 2 years ago 34
@ntsms69 - actually, the lyrics are Mr. Lynn Turner's. Still underrated, still magic, still standing the test of time.
PoffyTheCucumber 1 year ago
@PoffyTheCucumber Yes I know. I was admiring the lyrics and also Blackmores ability to sometimes fly "under the radar". Only in times like now, does some of Blackmores "MAGIC" become realised.
Its great to hear, when compared to some of the absolute CRAP that is heard on radios these days!!!!!!!
ntsms69 1 year ago
@PoffyTheCucumber
Actually, no they're not. The writing credits for this song are "Blackmore/Glover." If Joe had written any of the lyrics, I'm sure he'd have been credited.
No offense, of course. Just lettin' you know.
Ken5244 1 year ago
Interesting Rainbow song. Most of the Joe Lynn Turner era of Rainbow was very deliberately more commercial. This song has a very 70's/Deep Purple feel. Richie is one of the greatest.
mymrmojo 2 years ago 3
good music.
spritersie 2 years ago
rainbow was amazing!!!!! ritchie blackmore is a great guitarist man!! joe lynn turner was great too!!!!
bigvinsweetevil71 2 years ago 4
Man, these guys were lyrically way ahead of their time. This song is more relevant today than back in '81. Love this song. Thanks much for posting!
stilllife3569 2 years ago 3
fucking mint.
throwachair 2 years ago 4
Brilliant song, the best ever.
alisonlp1969 3 years ago 2
awesome song always the best with blackmore and co
aphasia1972 3 years ago 6
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Great Album till JLT Killed Them!!
jimbeamifyouplease 3 years ago
silly boy winfield120 that is
miketravis 3 years ago
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eat a fat dick mike.
WINFIELD120 3 years ago
FRankie Bannalie!!!Joe Rosenthal!!!
frambrianna 3 years ago
great song and excellent footage.
dnmcfall 3 years ago 2
One of the first vids on MTV, way before MTV went to cRAP.
witchman1 3 years ago 50
very good ecology song before its time
vaxthedude 3 years ago 4
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this song sucks I surrender is the only good song they did
WINFIELD120 3 years ago
silly boy
miketravis 3 years ago
This song rocks! So does Street of Dreams!
VODMagazine 3 years ago 2
Oh-you fags into politics and the like....I recommend a past-life reading; invest in your personal history truth instead of empowering ignorance; music's an expression, sometimes, as here an epiphany, but 4 fux ache man feel the vibe of the music don't "be lawyers", lovers of debate, seldom seeking truth....
1lemurian 3 years ago
best JLT-era song...Can't Happen Heeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrre!!!
1lemurian 3 years ago
prophecy !
seahhag69 3 years ago 2
mainard 3 years ago
Good to see Ron Dinelli on drums. Never as good as Bob Siebenberg from Supertramp though!!!
plattenandy 3 years ago
His name is not Ron Dinelli. It's Bobby Rondinelli.
Ken5244 3 years ago
Ron Dinelli was his given name. He chose "Bobby" as a pre-name in high school to hide his embarrasment at being linked to a local felon.
plattenandy 3 years ago
plattenandy said, "Ron Dinelli was his given name. He chose "Bobby" as a pre-name in high school to hide his embarrasment at being linked to a local felon."
Wow ... okay, I stand corrected. Heh heh ... as Ed McMahon used to say to Johnny Carson, "I did not know that!" Interesting bit of trivia. Thanks for the correction.
Ken5244 3 years ago
man, this song swings! That's not something many
post Jazz era songs do, unless they're by D.P.
or Rainbow. Although many cite Django Reinhardt as a major influence including Ritchie, not many
have been able to fuse the Swing with the Rock/Metal like Ritchie has, just another bit of evidence for skeptics that Ritchie is probably the most versatile guitarist ever.
pokbacsi100 3 years ago 3
PENIS!!!
Fuck you all! Listen to the fuckin music and stop arguing!
Phantomshock 3 years ago
you dorks keep arguing about politics, there's something original. they're ALL cheaters and liars you morons.
I more worried about people writing good rock n roll songs.
unclejoe862 3 years ago
Depite how CORRUPT the current administration is, and not matter how much of a WAR CRIMINAL he is, give it about 20 years and the water carriers on the right will try to tel everyone how "great" a president George W. Bush was. The conservative can revise, distort, and manipulate history with the best of them. The Nazis were good at that too.
smialek316 3 years ago
This has become a waste of time. I feel like I'm arguing with a child. The original issues, per YOUR posting, was whether or not Reagan deserved any credit for helping America win the Cold War. Ever since my initial responses outlining, in detail, his undeniable role and contributions (many of which I didn't even have room to mention), you have evaded my challenges to disprove, factually, any of my points. And the one time you tried, you put forth utter nonsense about perestroika & glasnost.
Ken5244 3 years ago
And like leftists always do when they get caught lying or find themselves unable to defend their position with anything other than irrational emotion, you have made numerous attempts to change the subject. You've gone off on Reagan supposedly "refusing to help farmers," an "illegal war in South America" (BTW, it was Central America, not South America *rolls eyes*), an utterly bizarre and clueless explanation of perestroika and glasnost, Gerald Ford, Bush, and the Nazis.
Ken5244 3 years ago
And just like Right wing extremists do when they are backed into a corner, they engage in fear mongering, and they wheel out the "Patriotism Card". Whether it is a GUTLESS ATTACK ON A HERO SUCH AS MAX CLEELAND'S PATRIOTISM, OR OTHER GUTLESS MOVES SUCH AS REVEALING VALERY PLAME'S INDENTITY, IT IS ALWAYS THE SAME THING. WHEN SOMEONE HAS THE GUTS TO QUESTION BANKRUPT CONSERVATIVE POLICIES, THEY ARE LABLED AS "UNEDUCATED ON THE ISSUES", OR THEY ARE LABELED A "SUBVERT", OR WORSE, UNAMERICAN.
smialek316 3 years ago
As this thread has progressed, your posts have revealed more and more of your true ideology and agenda. Whether or not Reagan deserves any credit vis-a-vis the Cold War is actually irrelevant to you. You are simply a hater who was indoctrinated at an early age into leftist/Marxist ideology, and you will never change.
Ken5244 3 years ago
See, this is exactly what I mean. You bitch and moan when I compare the right wing propoganda/fear mongering machine to the Nazis, yet you wheel out the "Patriotism Card", by calling my beliefs "Marxist". Although I don't even for a second, have to justify how American my beliefs are to an empty-suit bag carrier for Ronald Reagan, i will simply say that you were indoctrinated at an early age into right wing extremist, Joseph Geobbles ideology.
smialek316 3 years ago
The one thing I will agree with you on is Nixon. He was dishonest, no doubt about it. And don't get me started on the Republican party of today -- many of them are as dishonest and crooked as the Democrats, just in different ways. Both major parties in this country have been taken over by self-serving greedmongers, ideologues and extremists. The Democrats seek to create a society dependant on government (so that people have to vote for them), and many Republicans care primarily about greed.
Ken5244 3 years ago
The Republican party heirarchy of today bears little resemblance to the party of Ronald Reagan. There are some standout Republicans like Bobby Jindal, but then there are creeps & crooks like Dennis Hastert, Ted Stevens and others. The Democratic party changed dramatically in the late 1960s from the supply-side economics (like Reagan *wink*) and anti-Marxist ideology of JFK and Harry Truman to one of quasi-socialism under the direction of George McGovern, Jimmy Carter and Ted Kennedy.
Ken5244 3 years ago
And before you accuse me of "going off on tangents" myself, I'm simply mentioning these things to illustrate that I am not a partisan Republican by any stretch. I am definitely conservative on most issues (but not all), but I am not a water-carrying ideologue for anyone.
I think we've taken this argument about as far as it can go. FWIW, I apologize for calling you "dumb as ..." yesterday. I don't typically engage in name-calling, and that was uncalled for. Let's just agree to disagree.
Ken5244 3 years ago
Why waste your time with a jackass like that? He/She posted half a dozen bullshit rants backing this loser President who will go down as one of the worst and most crooked of all time.
romaneeto 3 years ago
Er, arguably he did. The Soviets could not compete with the Star Wars programme which he put in place, this helped push their economy into meltdown. Hence Gorbachev trying to reform the system and resultant demands for political freedom.
sigismund66 3 years ago
its a pity turner always has been underated...
davidcandelas 3 years ago
GREAT SONG !!!!! I believe this video won a best video award if im not mistaken..... BLACKMORE IS GOD !!!!!!!
snowarrow04 3 years ago
It is a great song, and ahead of its time lyrically. "Everybody living on a Sigfried Line", great obscure World War II reference.
smialek316 3 years ago
A classic, thanke. Love the band and Richie!
Dunwyche 3 years ago
hey why dont they shoe the earth exploding??????????.
jrad1963 3 years ago
I've been waiting to see this video again for years. It was burned into my memory back in the day; a great song with poignant images. Thanks for putting it up.
trespasstoland 3 years ago
Quote: "Love it. My favourite Rainbow song ever."
Ditto. :-) Also Joe Lynn Turner's best vocal ever IMHO.
Having lived thru the latter half of the Cold War, I remember how high tensions were here in the U.S. and also Western Europe in 1981. Lyrically, this song captures that tension and how "It's easy to believe someone's gonna light the fuse." Tense times ....
Ken5244 3 years ago
YouTube will take this off. Reagan won the cold war.Obama will make us all bow to mecca when he becomes pres. DOB 09/12/68.
lesGroves 3 years ago
No, Reagan did not win the Cold War. What enabled us to win the Cold War was, Russia overextending themselves in Afhanistan, the Berlin Wall falling, Russia's economy collapsing, and Chernoble. At the time, the Soviet Union could no longer afford to continue the standoff against us. Reagan had NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THSES FACTORS. LEARN YOUR HISTORY!!!
smialek316 3 years ago
Yes Im a flaming idiot.The Berlin wall fell due to the fact the USSR was broke.Why were they broke? REAGAN. Why did there economy collapse. They spent all they could on the military. You are answering your own comment.
lesGroves 3 years ago
You sure are a Flaming Idiot, and a FUCKING STUPID one too. The Berlin Wall fell due to the fact that Germany wanted to become one nation,and thus the USSR's control over East Germany would end. Russia's economy fell apart because of their failed occuptation of Afganistan, as well as the Chernoble disaster. Now in less than 5,000 words, and without quoting bankrupt Conservative propoganda, explain IN DETAIL how Reagan was responsible for a failed military mission, and a continent-wide recession.
smialek316 3 years ago
smialek you're spot on! Keep fightin' the good fight!
heavyliftz 3 years ago
Whether you liked or disliked Ronald Reagan, the significant role he played in enabling America to prevail in the Cold War is historical fact.
Mikhail Gorbachev repeatedly cited Reagan as a significant influence in his decision to enact the western-influenced policies of perestroika & glasnost in the mid-80s. Due to Gorbachev's underestimation of the resistance to reforms, perestroika & glasnost together set in motion (unintentionally) the events that led to the economic collapse of the USSR.
Ken5244 3 years ago
Perestroika enabled regional autonomy, which resulted in local & republic governments withholding critical tax revenues from the central government. The loss of centralized control also led to a devastating decline in production of consumer goods, and Soviet oligarchs enriched themselves at their country's expense. The meltdown at Chernobyl was a humanitarian disaster and a national embarrassment, but to cite it as a key factor in the country's economic collapse is factually incorrect.
Ken5244 3 years ago
Okay, so now you are quoting Perestroika as evidence that Reagan had anything at all to do with the fall of the Soviet Union? Again, you are right that the loss of centralized governmet control and the corruption that goes along with that were factors in the demise of the Soviet Union. However, you STILL HAVE NOT demonstrated how Reagan ND REAGAN ALONE had anything at all to do with those factors.
smialek316 3 years ago
Quote: "you STILL HAVE NOT demonstrated how Reagan ND REAGAN ALONE had anything at all to do with those factors."
When did I say he did it alone? I never said that. Reagan's indirect role in perestroika and glasnost was that his policies and strength -- and, ironically, his genuine friendship with Gorbachev -- persuaded Gorbachev to enact those western-style reforms. Unfortunately for Gorbachev, he had no way of foreseeing the unintended consequences. Did we benefit from that? Yep. :-)
Ken5244 3 years ago
Once again, Chernobyl in and of itself was not the reason for the fall of the Soviet Union, just like Reagan being president was not, however, it was a very big factor. The Russian economy was already falling apart, and then the Chernobyl meltdown occured, which further damaged a sector of the Russian economy that the Soviets relied heavily on.
smialek316 3 years ago
Re Chernobyl, you said previously, "Russia's economy fell apart because of their failed occupation of Afganistan (sic), as well as the Chernoble (sic) disaster." Those are your exact words.
Ascribing such importance to Chernobyl in the overall scheme of the USSR's economic collapse is simply inaccurate. It obviously didn't help, but it was not one of two key reasons (along with Afghanistan) for its collapse as you alleged earlier.
Ken5244 3 years ago
Okay, I will try to spell this out as as imply as possibe, because you obviously can't comprehend basic concepts:
CHERNOBYL BY ITSELF, DID NOT BRING DOWN THE SOVIET UNION, BUT IT PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN THE DOWNFALL, BECAUSE IT FURTHER DAMAGED AN ALREADY TERRIBLE ECONOMY, AND A SECTOR THAT THE SOVIETS RELIED HEAVILY ON. THINK ABOUT WHAT 9/11 DID TO OUR ECONOMY, GENIUS BOY.
smialek316 3 years ago
Lastly, let's agree that this is a complex topic that can't properly be discussed within the limitations of this site's 500-character limit for postings. And we could go back & forth all day & barely scratch the surface.
I was simply trying to educate you about some things you either weren't aware of or chose to ignore about Reagan's contribution to America winning the Cold War. Getting your info from far left Web sites, or Keith Olbermann or wherever you get it, is not serving you well.
Ken5244 3 years ago
I don't get my information from "far left websites, and Olberman,etc.", I lived through that time period and I know EXACTLY WHAT WENT ON IN THE LATE 80'S, AND EARLY 90'S. I also remember a teacher of mine saying that years after Reagan is dead, his WATER CARRIERS on the right will try to revise history, and try to put him on Mount Rushmore, simply for being president when the Soviet Union's economy collapsed, and their occupation of Afghanistan failed. How prophetic he was.
smialek316 3 years ago
Ahh ... a "teacher of mine." Gee, what a surprise. Lemme guess, one of the litany of lying, pseudo-intellectual college professors that indoctrinate America's youth with their anti-America, Marxist claptrap? That figures. And you drank the Kool-Aid.
I pointed out, in some detail, Reagan's direct and indirect contributions to winning the Cold War and the fall of the USSR. SPECIFICALLY, which ones of those do you assert are false? Don't evade the question -- answer it.
Ken5244 3 years ago
Call him whatever you want, because he was EXACTLY RIGHT. REAGAN DID NOTHING TO END THE COLD WAR, BUT A WATER CARRIER LIKE YOU WANTS TO PUT REAGAN ON RUSHMORE, SIMPLY FOR BEING PRESIDENT WHEN THE SOVIET ECONOMY FELL APART AND THE AFHANISTAN OCCUPATION FAILED
smialek316 3 years ago
Oh, okay. Reagan did nothing. And all the factual information I put forth in my original 5 or 6 posts was all just "bankrupt conservative propaganda." Whatever you say. *rolls eyes*
I can't imagine how miserable it must be to be a lying, corrupt leftist. Fact after fact disproves your failed, dispicable ideology, yet you cling to it still.
I challenged you to SPECIFICALLY disprove the points I made in my original posts, and you evade the challenge because you have no credible reply.
Ken5244 3 years ago
"Perestroika & Glasnost", ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??? You do realize that the Soviets enacted that policy to help Soviet immigrants assimilate into American culture, right? The Russians knew that after the Soviet Union fell, people would be leaving Russia for the United States in droves, which was exactly what happened. Those policies also ahd to do with a greater acceptance of American culture as well. Of course, Reagan was resonsible for the Soviets accepting western culture too, right?
smialek316 3 years ago
Are you on crack? You are just dumber than a big bag of Rosie O'Donnells. Where are you getting this bizarre information? Which far left Web site is dispensing your Kool-Aid today? Go to Wikipedia and search for "History of the Soviet Union" or "fall of the Soviet Union." Or make it easier on yourself -- just search for "glasnost" and "perestroika."
Read.
Good God .... *rolls eyes*
Ken5244 3 years ago
Actually, JERKOFF the teacher was right-leaning in a lot of his beliefs, and did work for alot of Conservative politicians. Nice try. I have already pointed out about 999888999888997788888 times how BANKRUPT your argument is.
smialek316 3 years ago
Even before the Soviet economy began unraveling in the mid-1980s, Reagan had already begun rebuilding what was left of the military he inherited from the Carter administration and ratcheting up an arms race he believed the USSR couldn't sustain. Deployment of Pershing missiles in Western Europe, the SDI initiative, and the huge military buildup were all initiated by Reagan, and they made it clear the U.S. was putting its foot on the Cold War's gas pedal and challenging the Soviets to keep up.
Ken5244 3 years ago
Again, you are right that Reagan ratched up the arms race by deploying missles,etc. However, he did that simply to "flex American muscle", and he did so at the expense of our economy here at home. Of course, it should also be noted that this heavy military spending contributed to one of our worst recessions since the 1950's, but that is beside the point in this discussion.
smialek316 3 years ago
Your comments about "flexing America's muscle at the expense of our economy" and "one of the worst recessions since the 1950s" are factually incorrect. The worst economy in decades had taken place under Reagan's predecessor, Jimmy Carter. Interest rates that reached 19%, double-digit inflation, and sky high unemployment had America reeling, and Reagan turned all of that around. But as you said, that is beside the point in this discussion (and would take too long to discuss properly).
Ken5244 3 years ago
The bad economy which started in the late 70's, as a result of the energy crisis, continued until the early 80's, and was not helped by the fact that domestic spending took a backseat to military spending, and also took a backseat to the ILLEGAL WAR that was fought in South America uner Reagan.
smialek316 3 years ago
Quote: "The bad economy which started in the late 70's, as a result of the energy crisis ...."
Wow. I see ... so it wasn't Carter and the Congressional Democrats' runaway taxing and spending that caused the bad economy, it was the "energy crisis"? And you accuse me of drinking the Kool-Aid. That's hilarious. It must hurt you to type things like that when even you know how ridiculous they are.
And now you're evading the original issue by going off on tangents about the American economy.
Ken5244 3 years ago
Yes, history hasalready shown that Carter's presidency was a failure, but some circumstances have to be factored in #1:The energy crisis/the OPEC embrago. #2: hE FOLLOWED (after Gerald Ford), yet another CORRUPT, CRIMINAL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT (perhaps you have heard of him0, that ordered a break in of a famous hotel, and then was caught RED HANDED destroying the evidence. As a result, people's faith in government was lost forever. Carter's presidency was no worse than thhe current adiminstration
smialek316 3 years ago
Smialek316 said, "Yes, history has already shown that Carter's presidency was a failure, but some circumstances have to be factored in #1:The energy crisis/the OPEC embrago."
Huh? The OPEC oil embargo/energy crisis occurred from October 1973 to March 1974. Jimmy Carter didn't take office until January 1977, nearly 3 years AFTER the embargo and "energy crisis" ended. So what are you talking about?
Are you really this ignorant or are you just intentionally lying?
Ken5244 3 years ago
Smialek316 said, "hE FOLLOWED (after Gerald Ford), yet another CORRUPT, CRIMINAL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT (perhaps you have heard of him0, that ordered a break in of a famous hotel, and then was caught RED HANDED destroying the evidence. As a result, people's faith in government was lost forever."
How was Nixon "caught red handed destroying the evidence"? What evidence? Again, what are you talking about?
People's faith in government was lost forever? Really? Forever? How so?
Ken5244 3 years ago
It was the cover-up that did Nixon in.
rebeldoe 3 years ago
Exactly.
He was not, as smialek316 falsely alleged, "caught redhanded destroying the evidence."
Ken5244 3 years ago
The Soviets tried to keep up but failed. The USSR was spending almost as much on its armed forces as the U.S. up until the mid-1980s, but with a GDP that was merely a fraction of that of the U.S. and in decline. Reagan's knew what he was doing. Eventually, along with the other institutions of Soviet society, the military ran out of money. As numerous republics began asserting their autonomy and breaking away, the formidable power of the centralized Soviet military fragmented as well.
Ken5244 3 years ago
You are right that the Soviets were trying to keep up but failed, you are right that their republics were breaking away, and that their economy was in ruins. By stating those obvious facts, you have further demonstrated that Reagan was simply lucky that he was president when all of the above factors were crippling Russia.
smialek316 3 years ago
Quote: " ... Reagan was simply lucky that he was president when all of the above factors were crippling Russia."
Again, you are incorrect. Had Reagan not persuaded our Congress and our electorate of the efficacy of a massive military buildup, the USSR would have been able to scale back military spending to a far lesser percentage of their GDP and direct that money towards dealing with their decaying economy. Our massive military buildup under Reagan dramatically hastened their collapse.
Ken5244 3 years ago
Wow, you really drink the Conservative Kool-Aid. ONCE AGAIN, if all of the previously stated factors did not happen, we would still be fighting the Copld War today, as Richard Clark (who you may know is a Republican) stated in his book Against All Enemies. Clark said that both the Soviets and the United States were in the Cold War for the long haul, and both nations counter-intelligence programs were designed to last for decades. Of course, you probably think that Clark is a "traitor".
smialek316 3 years ago
It is you that is drinking the Kool-Aid brewed up by Soros, MoveOn, Olbermann, Clinton, Obama, and the rest of that lying, intractably corrupt ilk. Or should I say "bankrupt leftist propaganda"? *wink*
Believe what you want. Leftists aren't interested in facts -- they believe what they want to believe based on emotion. In my earlier posts, I responded factually to your false assertion about Reagan having nothing whatsoever to do with winning the Cold War, and pointed out where you were wrong.
Ken5244 3 years ago
I don't know if I'd go so far as to labor Richard Clark a traitor, but he is a liar whose false allegations were dismantled, one by one with painstaking detail, by Charles Krauthammer way back when. Clark, just like Sandy "how many incriminating documents from the National Archives can I steal and stuff down my pants and dispose of" Berger and a number of other Clinton administration buffoons, has lied thru his teeth to cover up his culpability in the intelligence failures that led to 9/11.
Ken5244 3 years ago
Immediately following Reagan's death in 2004, none other than Ted Kennedy proclaimed, "Ronald Reagan won the cold war." While it's an oversimplification to say any one person won the war (though people knew what Kennedy meant), his policies and the personal strength he projected forced the Soviets to prioritize military spending over domestic. And the fact that he actually befriended Gorbachev was a monumental factor in easing Soviet paranoia and possibly even preventing a Soviet "first strike."
Ken5244 3 years ago
That is very touching that you conviently quote Ted Kennedy in 2004, after Reagan has passed away. What did you expect him to say? Of course he is going to be respectful. Did you expect him to bring up the fact that under Reagan, defense spending tripled that of domestic spending, especially Cancer research? or the fact that he refused to help out family farmers? Gorbachov and the Soviets had no choice but to negotiate with us. We were the lesser of two evils, just like in World War II.
smialek316 3 years ago
Ted Kennedy didn't say what he said out of "respect" -- he said what he said more than once, and humbly admitted he had been wrong all along about the Democrats' proposed "nuclear freeze" (which the Soviets would have reneged on) being the only way to deal with the Soviets.
Defense spending had to be dramatically increased in order to undo the disgraceful neglect of the military and intelligence departments that took place under the spineless, feckless Carter administration.
Ken5244 3 years ago
"spineless and feckless, Carter Administration"? That is what it always comes down to with you Conservatives. When in doubt, wheel out the "Patriotism card. That has to do with the John Wayne Complex that Reagan had. Such is to be expected from a Chief Executive that acted the part of President. Waging an illegal war in South America (which aided the drug trade), was not only spineless and feckless, but GUTLESS TOO!!!, and an offense that should have gotten his ass TOSSED OUT OUT OF OFFICE!!
smialek316 3 years ago
The state of this country under the Carter administration spoke for itself. It has nothing to do with a "patriotism card." This is another lie the liberal left has sold you.
You've lost -- quite obviously and publicly -- the argument over Reagan's role in helping win the Cold War and the fall of the USSR, so now you're veering off onto all sorts of tangents to evade that fact. I'll let my original series of posts, in response to your original, speak for themselves.
Ken5244 3 years ago
You keep running your mouth on and one about "lies the liberal left has sold me".etc. Nobody has sold me a thing. I lived through that time period, and I know exactly what happened, and what didn't happen. you STILL, have not demonstrated EXACTLY how RONALD REAGAN AND RONALD REAGAN ALONE had any influence on a Russian economy that was already in a deep recession, and how RONAALD REAGAN ALONE had any influence on a failed occupation of Afghanistan that was begun before he was president.
smialek316 3 years ago
What does defense spending vs. domestic spending here in the U.S. have to do with the your original false assertion about Reagan's role in the cold war? You are throwing out red herrings to divert attention from the real issue.
And keep in mind that ALL federal spending is done by Congress, so whatever spending was done vis-a-vis defense over cancer research of "helping farmers" had to be approved by Congress, which was controlled by Democrats for all of Reagan's 8 years in office. *wink*
Ken5244 3 years ago
Regardless of whether one liked or disliked him, the success of Reagan's unique leadership during the Cold War is historically undeniable. To simplistically claim, "Russia's economy fell apart because of their failed occupation of Afganistan (sic), as well as the Chernoble (sic) disaster" displays a profound ignorance of Soviet history and the Cold War. Maybe it's you, smialek316, who needs to "learn your history."
Ken5244 3 years ago
rubbush how abou hungary opening their borders in august 1989 and people leaving ..drain became overwhelming
sporta607 2 years ago
think he did an d so did mrs thatcher learn your histroy mate what won afghanistn was the stinger missile introduced in sept 1986 no air support travel on roads for cccp sldiers ideal for mujihadeen to attack casualties up think about that
sporta607 2 years ago
Great song! Does anyone have the Guitar pro tabs for this song???
Can`t find it heeeerre, Can`t find it theeeere!
LongLiveAlice 3 years ago
Yes It Can!!!
Nighthawkkkkk 4 years ago
love it. my favourite rainbow song ever.
lainey1166 4 years ago 2
Hey ChrisTheDrummerGirl....history repeats itself....
C00bicle 4 years ago
Blackmore God
DreamHealer87 4 years ago
It's scary how this song and video apply to our current global situation.
ChrisTheDrummerGirl 4 years ago 3
wow I haven't heard this since MTV 1981 fucking eh!!!!! I likeitit
rogcuadra 4 years ago 2
This type of video montage was ahead of its time.
paulrichardschuster 4 years ago
real cool
palster90 4 years ago
One of the greatest guitar solos.
gianstefano2000 4 years ago 2
Great song! I know a lot of people lost interest in Rainbow after Dio left, but I think Joe Lynn Turner was terrific. If it hasn't been done already, someone should do a post-9/11 update of this video!
RecordWarped 4 years ago
i love rainbow!
who sang this song?
Talonbsb 4 years ago
Joe Lynn Turner
retawd 4 years ago
Great song! Great metaphor at the ending!!
borgduck 4 years ago
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pauleyh 4 years ago