William Cooper (Mystery Babylon) Gnosticism 2/4

[ulived1969]

I AM JESUS, I AM THE 666 IN REVELATION...

THE MARKS / NUMBERS FORMING UPON MY FACE WILL SOON BE TOTALLY UNDENIABLE...

[macklen]

@ulived1969 Mm hm. Somebody forgot to take his medication.

[yyagirlwaddlez]

How come the broad cast cuts out at 4 min

[macklen]

As much as I respect and rely on Bill's analysys, I disagree with his conception of gnostics, specially when he says gnostics and freemasons are one and the same.

Freemasons openly worship the Great Architect, creator of the world, when gnostics identify creation with a lesser deity they call 'the demiurge', whose creation is a prison for aspects of the higher, true God which exists within us all regardless of creed and color. The purpose of the gnostic is to escape materiality, not worship it.

[muzapstar]

@macklen He explained that earlier. maybe in another video i was watching. Architects don't create, they take what it already made and reshape it.

[sageecho]

@macklen Can u message me?



[macklen]

@sageecho I tried and could not, some sort of 'contacts only' filter is blocking my messages to you. This is a very confusing yet alluring matter to me, all information is welcome. Happy 1984.

[XpEAnUTBuTtERsUckSX]

@macklen Well, masons are sort of digests, no-one knows what they specifically believe in.

[macklen]

@XpEAnUTBuTtERsUckSX apparently not even themselves. I know a few and they are the most pompous and shallow people ever. I guess there are serious ones and trendy ones like in every other activity.

[longfootbuddy]

@macklen freemasons worship all that egyptian shit.. the problem is that the lower level ones are too stupid to know it

[abby495]

@patriotest1 Heresy means choosing how do we know your Gods aren't the demons you arrogant b*tch. Perhaps it is your text that is BS because it was copied from preceeding ones. This is clear to anyone who knows how to read you know to those like Cooper. He sounds like he read a lot which is probably how he figured this stuff out. Reading a the library. The rest of you should try it. These aren't mysteries.

[abby495]

LOL sorry Gnostics figured it out and you didn't. Yeah they have extra powers more power than your stupid silliness. They will be far superior than you because obviously they know more and revere without being antagonist. Also remember your silly Bible is only 2,000 years old and it was not original work taken from Egypt and Sumer that are thousands of years old. So you need to remember this Satan is older than your Johnny come lately ripoff. The ink isn't dry yet. So p*ss off dimwits.

[ashthebartender1]

If Freemasons are evil and are artificially creating Bible Prophecies then why are they working from the Bible...why not work through Satan's teachings.

[LifeLibertyLove]

@ashthebartender1 Satan is God's partner.

[Billywask]

God Bless

[snackbox1989]

a true prophet of truth in unbelievable times of deciet

[YouViewer08]

It sounds like this video was clipped at 6:15....was what he said cut out?

[PerthCitizensTruth]

I love 2012, I can't wait to be indoctrinated into the Babylonian Mystery Religion.

*glazed over looked in eyes* Horus was just like Jesus ...

Hail Lucif ... I mean the "god spirit"

[loveisthelaw20042004]

@PerthCitizensTruth jesus is a blatant horus ripoff!

[snackbox1989]

@loveisthelaw20042004 can't believe there are still people believing in zietgeist -

[MolecularSpirit]

Hello once again, beautiful people.

We've all heard this before haven't we?

These are the fundamental aspects of a disputable truth.

Find some middle ground between all of these extremes.

If you wish to gain a little more perspective on these subjects,

I implore you to do a youtube search for Max Igan.

His channel:aodscarecrow

[MolecularSpirit]

To you people I say, You have it all figured out!

Human nature is evil, and that is why we must all repress it,

and suppress it in others.

We must stay away from the forbidden fruit, because it is forbidden.

Asking why requires a leap of faith. The fruit itself is your own spirituality.

Which you have made taboo in accepting THIS ARTIFICIALLY CREATED perversion of truth. Im sure you are all JUST AS HEALTHY as your hero here... May you all be lifted out of the fog before you are crushed like ants

[elrugged1]

Gnostics are also followers of the path of Nimrod, and we all know what God thought about Nimrod and his tower of Babel(United Nations) Gnostics are playing with fire, the wrath of the almighty, most high God, the only God. This is my opinion, but i wouldnt reccomend practicing pagan gnostic worship, it always leads to black magic, which leads to channeling, which leads to possession of self. If you want demon entities to possess you, than gnosticism is perfect for you. prove me wrong if i lie

[n0b0dy508]

@elrugged1 You're pretty much on the mark with your assertions. Bill isn't promoting black magick or Gnosticism, he's merely exposing the Mystery Schools and their practices (their beliefs, you see - not his or mine.)

Peace&Love

God bless

[elrugged1]

@n0b0dy508 NO, No i wasnt AT ALL claiming that Bill was promoting black magic, if thats how i came off. Bill was a devout christian and a great man, and he would NEVER promote anything gnostics believe or any other form of pagan worship. he always notes, "according to the mystery schools" or "as the mystery schools believe". I just said that to warn anyone that was contemplating getting into that type of thing. and thank you for the intelligent comment, very rare on youtube LOL

[XpEAnUTBuTtERsUckSX]

@elrugged1 I think your right, I've seen it at Bohemian grove.

[MolecularSpirit]

This video is PROPAGANDA. put here by the same people who want you to think its the end of the world. Granted, they think its ending too...

But do you hear all of the condescending judgment in his voice as he presents allegedly unbiased information? Listen to how he describes this tradition and its obvious he is filtering it through his dogmatic Belief System (BS) If you have a dogma lodged in your brain than I suggest you practice Gnosticism and try to remove it, because its controlling you.

[elrugged1]

@MolecularSpirit 90% of the info he reads is from YOUR BS(belief system) just as it is written. Of course he isnt going to sound ecstatic about a Luciferian system of religion, which is what gnosticism is. If you deny that, then you arent a gnostic. The serpent that givith knowledge is your god, if you are a gnostic, coupled with worship of self. That is lucifer, prince of darkness. Why would you want to follow an entity that is historically known by all cultures as pure evil?

[MolecularSpirit]

@elrugged1 Gnosticism isnt a belief system you poor fool, its a wisdom tradition. For it to be a belief system it would be requiring you to believe something (especially like something you cannot prove). The universe doesnt require you to choose sides, there are not some invisible baseball team mascots controlling us. It only seems that way because you relinquish your own control over your mind.. Dont you see that all of your baseball teams consider the other to be evil. Im not participating..

[tetrahydroscope]

@MolecularSpirit LOL, Yeah. "gnosticism is a wisdom tradition". Ya know, I used to think Manly P Hall was the coolest thing since sliced bread too. But then I got a clue, and realized that the only reson we know about any of this shit is referred to as, "the externalization Of the Hierchy"

the poorest fool is the one who thinks their finite mind is all they need for spiritual therapy

[MolecularSpirit]

@tetrahydroscope I will ignore your assumptions, seeing as how I don't particularly care for MPH's work, nor do I fit your description of the poorest fool.

I think its funny that you consider your spirituality to be therapy, while simultaneously discrediting the spirit as the source of human understanding. Although a movement was made to externalize the soul, it is you dogmatic monotheists who worship that externalized soul, rather than looking within your self to your own infinite potential.

[tetrahydroscope]

@MolecularSpirit hahaha, please explain how i discredit the Spirit. I knew of my estrangment with God long before I began to accept Jesus Christ. Also, how does monotheism externalize the soul? I am sure you will wander around long enough to realize that you cannot do anything with out God, particularly, safely looking inward. Good luck, you will find spiritual rebirth someday.

[MolecularSpirit]

@tetrahydroscope Well not that I left you room to assume otherwise, but I practice my spirituality in every moment that I am conscious. I too, accept Christ, not as my favorite baseball team, but as a symbol of my true nature. I know how prevalent the mind can be in the words you choose to use when you operate under the misconception that what you "know" about God defines your relationship to the omnipresent flow of energy within all things. And fyi luck has nothing to do with spirit.

[tetrahydroscope]

@MolecularSpirit Good luck! you will need it if you continue to de-personalize Jesus Christ. You need to accept him as your King. My original beef with Christianity was that whole baseball team thing, but the Orthodox teachings are not so humanized. Have fun with your symbol, because here in the world you have the home team advantage. Your on Lucifer's side if you refuse to recognize your King. Godbless.

[MolecularSpirit]

@tetrahydroscope "how does monotheism externalize the soul?" Monotheism is harmless by itself, but Dogma, or "absolute belief" is very dangerous when coupled with the belief in ONE consciousness (GOD). Because what you end up with is a "one true god"complex, which has really justified every war known to man, as well as Christ's crucifixion. You guys will be putting enlightened beings on the cross until this whole "end of the world" thing goes down. Hopefully we can prevent it from coming to that

[tetrahydroscope]

@MolecularSpirit So, there are no absolutes regarding truth? I am fairly certain that turning your other cheek to the one who strikes you is dogma. Yeah, I used to have an issue with dogma as well.

So, Christians who are wary of occultism are on par with the pharisees?

It sounds like you hope for the destruction of Christianity, because you can't look past the fact that WAR is A PERVERSION of what Jesus Christ taught.

[MolecularSpirit]

@tetrahydroscope Bah ha ha ha!!!

That's pathetic. You just keep trying to characterize me! I'm sure you'll get a gold star for your efforts.. haha.. You can't use your mind constructively, can you? One of many conditions of your subservience. ALl hail the sun-king..

[tetrahydroscope]

@MolecularSpirit hahaha, and your not characterizing me as small minded because I accept subserviences to God?

One again, good luck with jezebel and the gnostics. You will need it when you wander in darkness.

[MolecularSpirit]

@tetrahydroscope Maybe you should re-read our conversation. If you only knew how truly blessed I am, you would give a second thought to ALL that you seperate yourself from, in the name of Christ. I repeat, the universe does not care what you believe. You might notice your superstitions are similar to the Israelites and the Palestinians who have been brainwashed into an ongoing conflict by the same formula that you subscribe to being on the "right" side of. All religions are constructed this way.

[tetrahydroscope]

@MolecularSpirit like I said, I m not too concerned about religion (besides it's implications on society and culture) I am more worried about proper spiritual therapy, for everyone's sake. That is why I reminded you that knowledge alone is not what wil lead us to God.

[MolecularSpirit]

@tetrahydroscope I agree, Thank you for meeting me halfway. The only reason I ask certain people to get their beliefs on the table is because, (little do they know) they have internalized an external set belief system that greatly inhibits their spiritual progress. It is not merely religion, but all institutions that regulate our experiences while subjecting us to an artificial reality (not based on nature, maintaining the divorce from eden). This conditioning keeps us from connecting to others

[karlkarlkarl1234]

@tetrahydroscope

It's funny how most of the Christians in America are the most avid supporters of war, racism and genocide.

My theory is that 95% of American "Christians" do not even know what the word means.

[tetrahydroscope]

@karlkarlkarl1234 well, you are certainly right when it comes to the americans who are christian-zionist. But I think your painting to wide a brush, because there is such a thing as quakers and other pacifist christians. Go ahead and hate christianity if thats what your about, but otherwise try to have a balanced view on the faith.

[abby495]

@karlkarlkarl1234 Does this mean that Christians in other countries aren't bloodthirsty vampires that feed on the energies of others?

[elrugged1]

@tetrahydroscope Slow clap, builds up to a roar. LOL well put, now i dont have to say it. Im the poor fool, he says.

[elrugged1]

@MolecularSpirit Wisdom tradition? So you have to be initiated into some freak show to learn what truth is? You stick to your "belief system" or "wisdom tradition" and I will stick to my baseball team. My God isnt to be disputed, if others want to say their God is better, thats cool, Im not competing with anyone. That was mans idea, not Gods.

[n0b0dy508]

@MolecularSpirit Are you this ignorant? You do realize that Cooper doesn't promote Gnosticism, right? He doesn't promote the Mystery Religion of Ancient Babylon, he merely exposes its doctrines and its practice. THEIR beliefs!

[Maniac50AE]

@MolecularSpirit yeah you really have to listen to more than 10 minutes of a broadcast. this guy was broadcasting and lecturing from 93' to 01' when he got killed. If you do then you will realize that its not the religion its the group and their agenda that he doenst like. And he never says hes right or they're wrong in terms of beliefs just the practices of trying to manipulate everyone.

[MolecularSpirit]

@Maniac50AE I understand that, I listened to this entire series, I just cant get the taste of misguided hatred out of my mouth. It must have something to do with his work being filtered through monotheistic dogma. Because what he has really done is give many a bad case of the "invisible enemies". He is here (infiltrated the conspiracy society) to answer any questions you may have about whats on the other side of the fence. Because whats on the other side is freedom from your fear conditioning.

[Maniac50AE]

@MolecularSpirit maybe its because these people have been lying, stealing, manipulation and killing people for the past 1500yrs minimum to accomplish their goal. I can see how that would anger someone, cant you?

[SunBeamsan]

OKay this guys is just perverting and twisting the truth about Gnosticism now. First of all, by Supermen, Gnostics refer to obtaining a higher level of spiritual perfection.

It has nothing to do with them feeling they are special people. And the reason why Gnostic teaching was underground, was because the Catholic Church went on a rampage of exterminating all church doctrine that contradicted THEIR interpretation of God. - known as the Inquisition. This guys may know allot, but it's superficial

[MolecularSpirit]

I feel obligated to mention that Christos himself was not of any particular religious persuasion. Sound Familiar?

Where did he go from the ages of 12 to 30?

He sure did come back with some nifty tricks...

Hmmm... Yeah..

[PacmanBonez]

@MolecularSpirit u tell me... but if u cant then what are u trying to insinuate?

[MolecularSpirit]

@PacmanBonez He traveled to multiple lands, and learned from the ancient wisdom traditions in Egypt, as well as the Himalayas. During this time frame he accomplished what took Buddha 40 days under a tree. Enlightenment. A state of being acquired through self discipline, thought to take multiple lifetimes. The Ancient traditions were to help us reach the highest states through our own experience rather than vicariously through a someone else. The remnants of his teachings are heavily doctored

[PacmanBonez]

@MolecularSpirit

id like to see some evidence of that which im doubting u have,, but i could be wrong.. if i am then show it to me

[MolecularSpirit]

@PacmanBonez Show me evidence to the contrary, and I will waste my time with your skepticism.

[PacmanBonez]

@MolecularSpirit

oh ok, sorry but id doesnt work like that.. how bout when u die u can ask him for yourself

[MolecularSpirit]

@PacmanBonez Jesus is my favorite baseball team!

[MolecularSpirit]

Bill Cooper is using magic to persuade anyone who doesnt know what they believe into accepting his dogma. Gnosticism is about believing based on experience, instead of adapting to the local superstition that may or may not be backwards itself. Seems to be from the look of things. There are about 30 other wisdom traditions hailing from every corner of the earth from every time in human history. Should we just add them all to our "invisible enemy" list, as well?

Your loss.. silly people..

[Camel76]

The "G" stands for Gnosticism.

[SteveXnycperformance]

The best radio show back in the earlier 1990`s here in NYC.

[Klaffveinz]

Very clever man I must say, he will tell you things you can research and find to be true.

[Nepenthe13]

If you want to know about gnostisism, then this christian dickhead and his one way-view of it, won't help you a GOD DAMN bit! There are holes, vague statements without facts to back them up and straight out lies mixed in with the actual facts in this presentation. Do not listen to this man! Find a better source for your information!

[chosop25]

what is a better source?

[vizzy7]

"magic is real, I've seen it and it is not to be played with"

so sholud we ignore its existance and be victitms of it.

there are plenty of musicans who are not good people so with that should I stop playing music or have a bad opnion of it just because its the pratice of some bad men.

what about all the people who are not psychotic who pratice magic and gnosis

that population is rarely discussed and often persecuted.

its still the dark ages

burn the witch

[Klaffveinz]

@vizzy7 He said "not to be played with".By that, I would take it to mean, do not dabble with magic if you are uninformed.

[tiuric77]

OK so sounds like Gnositics are people who think they know what enlightenment is but they have it a little backwards. They think that the serpent gave people the gift of intellect. However intelect is not a gift. Having judgement creates duality instead of oneness or unity.

[bob8gamble]

I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables

[PoliticalFrustration]

No, G is GATOU which is an abbreviation for Grand Architect of the Universe, I don't know exactly what it is but it has to do with the building of Solomon's temple, didn't William Cooper himself say that the builders of the temple split off into religious and anti religious groups?

[TheWarrior1986]

Yeh i can remeber hearing sumthing like that as well. So is it GAOTU or is it Gnostism? Either way i think the most relevent point is that it is not 'God' as they would have us 'cattle' believe.. Haha. Also, ive heard Bill contradict himself by saying the 'free mason' came from the words 'fre masson' meaning 'belonging to the light' or sumthing, but in this series he takes it as the literal english term 'free mason'. Had me scratching my head...

[dstewart28]

@TheWarrior1986 well, the origin of the word is irrelavent.

[RevJonathanLedezma]

Did Jesus and the disciples ring peoples' doorbells trying to recruit them or scream on street corners, condemning people to hell if they didn't join their church? "COME TO ME all ye who are heavy laden...". Jesus spoke in parables because most arent ready for the MYSTERIES of the kingdom of heaven. He only revealed certain things to a couple of his disciples, not all 12. "Many are the called, few are chosen". The Gospels prove your hypocrisy to be just what it is. Religious propaganda!

[ILLER121]

this guy is very biased. i dont like him. he twists things to suit himself. people will always twist things and reinterperet quotes and symbols to suit their own beliefs. im getting pretty confused and bored with it all so i say just find your own way. personal experience is the best teacher! its best to clear your mind of everything that has come from any external source, start from scratch and use you own intuition to guide you.

[jayrock617]

Before calling Mr. Cooper biased and claiming you don't like him, maybe you should do a little more research into what he was all about.

He cared about humanity and loved every one of us. Every piece of work he did was to wake people up to think for themselves and not be stupid sheeple.

"Listen to everybody, read everything. Don't believe anything unless you can verify it through your own research."

RIP Bill

[ILLER121]

i listened to everyone when i was a kid and learnt that a lot of people arent worth listening to. after a while you get a taste for who the bullshitters are. if i continued to listen to EVERYONE then i wouldnt have learnt anything for myself and i would continue to be confused.

you dont always need research to believe in something. its not always about looking in first before you jump. sometimes you just have to go for it otherwise youll spend all your time analysing life instead of living it

[ILLER121]

"Every piece of work he did was to wake people up to think for themselves and not be stupid sheeple"

"Listen to everybody, read everything..."

a bit contradictive because that is being a sheep. STOP listening to everybody else and reading what other people have written long enough to decide what it is YOU believe in.

look i understand more than most how obsessive researching all this material can become. but it just goes on and on. one thing leads to another and its never definitive!

[jayrock617]

I think you misinterpreted "listening" with "believing." In the end you should always make up your own mind on what you believe in and not take other people's words as truth.

I don't understand how having a broad range of information is being a sheep?

And if you think Cooper was a bullshitter, you have a lot to learn my friend.

[ILLER121]

dont patronise me jaycock. you dont know anything about me so who are you to say what i have to learn? we are all here for different reasons therefor we are all here to learn different things. besides i didnt say he personally was a bullshitter i just dont agree with him on this subject!

a lot of people reinterpret things to suit their own agendas and at the end of the day no one really KNOWS anything. people have seen this and heard that. read this or found that. its all second hand info.

[jayrock617]

LOL Looks like I struck a nerve?

Relax, Cooper had 1st hand experience with mostly everything he revealed to the public, and when he didn't he relayed documented facts and never claimed it to be truth or for you to believe it.

When I said you need to learn I was referring to Cooper, I have done much research into his information and have found him to be a true patriot for this country...which he died for(freedom).

I just thought you judged him too quickly before really knowing who he was...

[ILLER121]

lol yea alrite iv got anger issues and i'll admit that!

his experience was first hand but when he passes it on it becomes second hand. and i never consider documents to be facts. how can they be? anyone could have written them. its like the bible. anyway i guess im just getting frustrated coz i dont really know wot to believe. you hear people that are blatantly opposing the illuminati, and then you hear another conspiracy that those same people are actually in on it. its getting confusing.

[ILLER121]

i do know about him ive seen his ''cooper tells all'' presentation and that was really good. this just seems a bit odd to me. hes a christian so obviously he would oppose it. which makes it seem to me that his opinions on this topic are somewhat biased. gnosticism actually really inspired me when i started looking into it and it still does. all that is really required to practice it is to go your own way and find enlightenment based on personal experiences. which is more reliable than any book!

[jayrock617]

Well I respect that.

We are all searching for truth, and personal experience is the best way to verify your beliefs.

[morttis]

he was a great man

[elrugged1]

@jayrock617 only intelligent people listen to views they might not agree with. This is the only way to get the big picture. Mr. Cooper was a great man that cared about humanity, so much that he repeated himself over and over trying to get people to learn. He was murdered by the ones he was fighting his whole life, his death will not be in vain. "God bless each and every one of you"- William Cooper

[jayrock617]

@elrugged1 Very well put. I have a relative who has a very narrow minded viewpoint on life. He won't give any attention to beliefs outside of his own. You have to be open minded and willing to look at perspectives that differ from your own. Or else you are missing pieces to the puzzle.

[ApollyonProductions]

Thanx for posting a large amount of the series Marbus0; greatly appreciated

[Marbus0]

For people who are saying this is bullshit. Why dont you listen to more of the series instead of jumping to conclusion with only listening to 10 mintutes of just 1 episode of the whole series. There is one episode entiled "Bibliography", in which Bill Cooper names every source he used for his information.

[ET253]

thank you!!!

[theswoonfactor]

Cooper was amazing, thank you for sharing!

[Darkgravx12]

Well said friend, and yes this is far from bullshit.

[boarderis4snow]

@Marbus0 I'm pretty sure these people just feel threatened by him. Even posthumously. hahaha

[congressmon]

This guy is a propaganda specialist. He is not telling the whole story about Gnosticism. Gnostics are the original Christians. They are ones that were thrown to the lions for not believing in the new Jesus stuff that the Pope and his goons were pushin on the empire. Gnostics were people who drew their own beliefs from the ancient stories of Ausar (Osiris), Auset (Isis), and Heru (Horus). The Father, the Mother, and the Son respectively. A heavenly story set in Heaven!!! NOT ON EARTH. 10000BC.

[chi19cago88]

Not only that, Edgar Cayce (the sleeping prophet) himself stated during one of his trances that gnosticism is the REAL form of Christianity that the Christ preached. While I agree that some of William Cooper's theories - namely, the actions of the illuminati are perpetrating on the world, are plausible, Gnosticism however, has never been an evil form of religion and is very well closer to the preachings of Jesus Christ than today's materialistic religions - catholicism, protestantism, etc.

[ET253]

You seem pretty taken by the new age. I bet you believe that Joseph Smith really did translate the book of Mormon using a magical seer stone.

[congressmon]

This guy is a propaganda specialist. He is not telling the whole story about Gnosticism. Gnostics are the original Christians. They are ones that were thrown to the lions for not believing in the new Jesus stuff that the Pope and his goons were pushin on the empire. Gnostics were people who drew their own beliefs from the ancient stories of Ausar (Osiris), Auset (Isis), and Heru (Horus). The Father, the Mother, and the Son respectively. A heavenly story set in Heaven!!! NOT ON EARTH. 10000BC.

[sugarraygras]

So let me get this straight!THis guy becomes famous due to all his research regarding ufos.He states that their are 4 alien races visiting earth and that one of these races send their leader Krill,to make a deal with our governments to swap technology for human abductees.Then a few years later he says that is all hogwash that the government fed him and it is they that are more advanced than we thought and that teir are no aliens!

[sugarraygras]

sounds pretty conclusive to me!A fucking joke.But as he says himself be careful what you believe,especially this sort of shit!

[UnoRaza]

It was not all research some of it was first hand and he presents as a very credible witness. Other was based on research, and who knows, being in the military he could be a mind control victim.

Of one thing I'm certain, he truly believed in what he was saying and had much of it correct according to my research.

How the heck did he not only predict 9/11, but that it would be blamed on Osama? *My guess is insider connections with those fellow military/CIA/NSA that are good ppl and hv hearts.

[bobbygnosis]

His description of gnostics and freemasons at 1:18 is incredible. Apply that description to the politicians who are also freemasons and probably illuminati. The difference is almost zero. Amazing.

[UnoRaza]

If they were the same as the Freemasons then why did the Pope innocent order them killed?

"Aristocrats" that do not agree with materialism? Hello? That does not make sense the are opposites.

Jesus too was a 'commune'-ist as he likely lived on a commune to isolate from the materialists; the root of all evil.

They DID not say man would BE G-d. They believe the Spirit of Christ would manifest from within! They did not take self credit for this. Yikes! I LOVE Cooper,but he really goofed.

[sugarraygras]

Goofs quite a lot acually!

[ET253]

well then explain to us what he was mistaken about by providing links to contradictory primary source material.

[sugarraygras]

I am not the one peddling an incredilble view. Incredible stories require incredible proof. I dont see any here! I am not the one that has to prove this guy to be talking shit, he is the one who has to prove it to be true......, Mr primary sources!

[ET253]

Well he's obviously not here to do so. Therefore, to those of us who have studied this and checked out all the source of all the references he provides, the burden of proof lies on your shoulders to prove your claim to the contrary. Those of us who have done our due diligence regarding this subject owe you no burden of proof because you came here and initiated this. Bill Cooper didn't come back from the dead, wake you up in the middle of the night, and start screaming all of this in your ear.

[sugarraygras]

Lets me give you an example. My mother could fly. How do I prove it,...well i dont you will just have to prove that she didnt. Can you provide me with primary sources that prove she couldnt...no...so therefore she could fly! See the problem now!

[affluence8]

Is this guy disguising his voice?

[affluence8]

What does it all mean Basil?

[billjhyt]

hahaha, that's funny. Basil Rathbone.I like it.

[runetang]

the "G" in the freemason symbol stands for "Grant" .. lolz

[runetang]

poor Bill Cooper got assassinated in cold blood by Federal Agents on his own property..

the very best, most truthful whistleblowers are the ones that always end up dead. remember that when presented with garbage.

[newhippy]

no its not all i have to say but its bloody off putting i am easily distracted and that voice distracts me from the meaning of this video, im honest. See sometimes its little things like that that make the difference between someone listening or someone switching off!...thats my HONEST opinion.

[UnoRaza]

Count yourself as lucky then as Equating Gnostics to Masons is like equating them to Catholics. They're counter opposed and Gnostics believe the Christ Spirit is what comes up from within.

I love Cooper, and have no clue what books he got this from they DO NOT BELIEVE THEY'RE G-ds! But DO believe materialism is bad and we do not need churches to misinterpret the Words of CHRIST. Read Gnosis from them not from Cooper's sources unless u believe the Catholic's of middle ages were good.

[newhippy]

sounds like a talking robot...

[cyanic11]

And you seem shallow if that's all you have to say 'newhippy'.