Sorry everybody. Some of my posts do not make sense. I was confused. I often log on and see the UC Davis TV video of Carmina Burana. Awesome, young African-American soprano for Carmina Burana.
the conductor baldini is Argentinian with Lebanese and Italian heritage. I don't think prejudice is an issue for him or that orchestra - it says more about this 'bachgod' character than anything else... I have seen people who just like to provoke debate on Utube - I will give him the benefit of that doubt
Please keep the racial debates to a minimum. UCTV has uploaded these videos for our entertainment, and enjoyment. Debates on other relevant issues(instruments, details of the composer, history, and the like) seem to be fine, but keep the higher, more appreciable class sections of Youtube (such as these fine recordings) free of irrelevant, offensive, and racial chatter.
the tenor is amazing!! sounds like an alto, such a light assured voice. he should consider exploring the french repertoire from the baroque area, he could be a great haute contre am sure!
Is amazing... One Woman no Asian or white, that is a lot... 99% versus 0.1 %. I just as a solist, so I can figure out that is for especial funcions in Symphonies or Oratorios. I think this is natural talent that they need. JESUS BLESS YOU.
Only Educated people can understand the intelligence there is involved in bringing together several types of brass string and percussional instrumments along with selecting the individualss who play them . Its nothing to do with race, religion or minority. ITS ABOUT MUSIC!! Everyone has thier very own taste and preference in the arts, Every individual has thier very own idea , thought or reason why they select what they find solice in.
I have a question? Why just whites and asians.....Oh I have the answer>>> Discrimination, racism, higt income...good education just for rich and for some race...Bad.
@bachgod I don't think is a case of racism. Black kids are subject to powerful influence of hip hop rap stuff like that and don't find classical music appealing . You can say it is racist if they wouldn't allow a black person in the choir or to play an instrument. But I don't think this is the case. You are however entitled to your opinion as well as am I
@bachgod I think you believe this because you have racist pretensions. If a person of color found interest in this and excelled at it, I'm sure they'd be first chair just like whites and yellows. Not everything is based on race, actually MOST things are not that way. I think blacks were too busy expanding on this form of music and inventing Jazz to be bothered with the redundancy of classical compositions. But that's just the opinion of one cracker and means absolutely nothing.
@bachgod You sir, are the epitome of ignorance. When I saw this video, not once did my mind go to race. When I listen to, sing in, and play in choirs and instrumental ensembles at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, I never see race....and guess what? There are plenty of good, black musicians in most every good conservatory. I know this from experience. Racism is kept alive in this country due to people like you who perceive every situation by race and shout "RACISM" at every opportunity.
@bachgod Just whites and Asians? Did you notice there is only one solo soprano? And that she is a woman of color. That kind of shoots down your race theory dead, dead, dead?
@bachgod I think u r partly correct. It's combination of culture and socio-economics. Do u think there's a lot of Mozart and Haydn being played in poor neighborhoods? In African-American culture do kids want to grow up to play the french horn or play ball? And classical music takes some bucks. You got to buy the instrument and pay for lessons. Can't go to the top without lessons. And you need parental involvement. Taking to lessons. Shopping for best teachers. Making kid practice.
@galaxia567 Whoops. My mistake. In African-American neighborhoods, people are crazy for classical music and especially Carmina Burana. And most people of color in the United States are affluent.
@StJouish Your comment DID sound terrible, you know. But I think I understand what you meant (correct me if I got it wrong :P)...it's *not*, as some people are saying, a matter of taste, or a matter of liking hip hop/rap music/funk better than classical music...it's a matter of being excluded in every sense of the word, of not having access to this kind of music for economic, social and political reasons.
@Solangeag1 I taught school in an urban-poor school district. I raised my kids in Lake Forest, Illinois and Ladue, Missouri-—both well-to-do school districts. My kids participated in sports, attended religious school, had lessons on multiple instruments. Most of my students in University City did not have these advantages. Culture means quite a lot. Read "Meaningful Differences in the Everyday Experience of Young American Children."
@StJouish yeah, that's what I thought you meant to express, but I think it came out the wrong way! I'm from Brazil, and even if I'm lucky enough to have been born in the "right" social class (I wouldn't even be discussing here if I hadn't :P), trust me, I know what that means...there are very few places like Brazil where you can see so much social disparity (and where people are still dying for lack of food - but according to our governments that doesn't exist anymore, right? LOL)
@Solangeag1 I am not sure why U say it came out the wrong way. Please, pinpoint the offensive sentence or words. I did not say anything about the character of the people, I was talking about the culture of the people. In professional class families, a 3 year old has heard three million words. In a welfare class family, a 3 year old has heard one million words. That's a carefully recorded observation from a study of 50 families.
@Solangeag1 In landmark study of 50 families, the single greatest predictor of school achievement was the ratio of positive to negative social interactions which child had between 11 - 18 months. Professional class mother will avoid saying no or speaking harshly to her baby. Her ratio of positive to negative interactions: 4 to 1. In welfare class families, the ratio of positive to negative is 1 to 4. (In successful marriages , the ratio of positive to negative is 5 to 1. Being nice counts.)
@Solangeag1 Don't shoot the messenger. The kids I taught didn't have food or heated homes in the winter. Very few had fathers living in the home. A lot had fathers living in jail. A lot of their recreational time was spent watching TV. (My own kids hardly every had time for TV—the vast wasteland.) Much classical music on TV? Sure on PBS. But they weren't watching PBS. Some of the kids were resistive to learning standard English. Sorry, people do judge you by your clothes and your speech.
I am an incoming freshman and really want to play in this symphony next year, but i don't think that I am good enough :( does anyone know if there are other orchestras on campus?
i am in my school's concert choir and we are doing this mass (from gloria to credo) and i am the bass soloist... and i am so not singing as low as he is lol
This is the trial: men have loved darkness more that the light, because their deeds are evil-Gv 3,19
Now I want to meet you and all the good in a universal and permanent prayer all good for your heart and all that is good for the world every Monday of your life, from 20 to 21 I will be with you in spirit, with my love until the end of the world!
No matter your religion or your atheism I am still near you in your prayers! God bless all mankind, protect you and help you throughout AMEN ALLELUIA
Actually, Mozart made Horn conc. for instrument called Es horn, two feet longer than this one and no valves, likewise Clarinet concerto is for basset horn, not for clarinet,both instrum. torture to play!!!!
close. the clarinet concerto was STARTED for the basset horn. Only a fragment remains. It was never completed for the basset horn. In fact, the fragment from the basset horn except is all that remains. The original for clarinet is lost.
It should be noted that the concerto was written for a basset clarinet which is a clarinet extending 4 semi-tones lower than usual.
Basset horns are not torturous; I like to play them!
wow. that is low, like if I were to say to you I hope you fuckin die. Thats wrong man what were you not given enough hugs as a kid? I hope that the people you did try and jynx did an amazing job, Ive performed the piece myself and I must say its an impressive piece so you know what Jack? Hope you fuckin die and if not I hope your miserable because by the sound of it, thats the most you deserve.
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Means nothing coming from such a lowly grease bag such as yourself. Take a fucking shower grease-boy. Your kind doesn't even belong listening to classical music. stick to that greasy jamaican rap. Now kill yourself, and take your stinking slippery race with with you.
lowly grease bag?grease boy? Stinking slippery race?Ha is that really the best excuse that you have for the ignorance in the statement you just made?That because Im not of your race that I shouldnt be entitled to listen to classical music?Its funny how the most ignorant observations come not from the blind but rather from close minded pricks like you.So please give me a better excuse as to why I shouldn't be able to listen to classical music other then the fact that your a really racist person
THIS IS THE MOZART HORN CONCERTO, This is NOT the Lord Nelson Mass. At least not the first five minutes I've listened to. Delightful as always, but rather not what I was looking for at this moment.
They take so long to start because the person started filming way too early. They should have waited until after tuning to begin filming. It's not the orchestra's fault. Dr. Holoman is a great conductor :]
merci ♥)
Elfaih 1 month ago
Sorry everybody. Some of my posts do not make sense. I was confused. I often log on and see the UC Davis TV video of Carmina Burana. Awesome, young African-American soprano for Carmina Burana.
StJouish 2 months ago
the conductor baldini is Argentinian with Lebanese and Italian heritage. I don't think prejudice is an issue for him or that orchestra - it says more about this 'bachgod' character than anything else... I have seen people who just like to provoke debate on Utube - I will give him the benefit of that doubt
TimeSurfer101 2 months ago
Hello everyone,
Please keep the racial debates to a minimum. UCTV has uploaded these videos for our entertainment, and enjoyment. Debates on other relevant issues(instruments, details of the composer, history, and the like) seem to be fine, but keep the higher, more appreciable class sections of Youtube (such as these fine recordings) free of irrelevant, offensive, and racial chatter.
-Thanks.
sudoLinux666 2 months ago in playlist Classical 6
the tenor is amazing!! sounds like an alto, such a light assured voice. he should consider exploring the french repertoire from the baroque area, he could be a great haute contre am sure!
eustazio 3 months ago
Love my bass/bariton. SEXXXXY voice and sexy all over. Tell me he's single.
lty2k84 4 months ago
Is amazing... One Woman no Asian or white, that is a lot... 99% versus 0.1 %. I just as a solist, so I can figure out that is for especial funcions in Symphonies or Oratorios. I think this is natural talent that they need. JESUS BLESS YOU.
I love Jessy Norman... Amen.
bachgod 9 months ago
Only Educated people can understand the intelligence there is involved in bringing together several types of brass string and percussional instrumments along with selecting the individualss who play them . Its nothing to do with race, religion or minority. ITS ABOUT MUSIC!! Everyone has thier very own taste and preference in the arts, Every individual has thier very own idea , thought or reason why they select what they find solice in.
aBastardBaby 9 months ago 2
@aBastardBaby Yep.
FinalSmashBrother 7 months ago
JESUS, bless You!
bachgod 11 months ago
this is fantastic
liveforthemusic510 1 year ago
@bachgod: Dunno about you, but I can see at least one black face among the choir...not that I normally look at skin colour, unlike you.
snipergirl21 1 year ago
I have a question? Why just whites and asians.....Oh I have the answer>>> Discrimination, racism, higt income...good education just for rich and for some race...Bad.
bachgod 1 year ago
@bachgod I don't think is a case of racism. Black kids are subject to powerful influence of hip hop rap stuff like that and don't find classical music appealing . You can say it is racist if they wouldn't allow a black person in the choir or to play an instrument. But I don't think this is the case. You are however entitled to your opinion as well as am I
r4zv4nes 1 year ago
@bachgod hi troll.
jimbear7 1 year ago
@bachgod I think you believe this because you have racist pretensions. If a person of color found interest in this and excelled at it, I'm sure they'd be first chair just like whites and yellows. Not everything is based on race, actually MOST things are not that way. I think blacks were too busy expanding on this form of music and inventing Jazz to be bothered with the redundancy of classical compositions. But that's just the opinion of one cracker and means absolutely nothing.
Poopspoon420 1 year ago
@bachgod You sir, are the epitome of ignorance. When I saw this video, not once did my mind go to race. When I listen to, sing in, and play in choirs and instrumental ensembles at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, I never see race....and guess what? There are plenty of good, black musicians in most every good conservatory. I know this from experience. Racism is kept alive in this country due to people like you who perceive every situation by race and shout "RACISM" at every opportunity.
josiahpianoman 11 months ago
@bachgod uhhh look again. black and hispanics . its interest that also weeds out people. some people arent into choir
Missmodified92 10 months ago
@bachgod Just whites and Asians? Did you notice there is only one solo soprano? And that she is a woman of color. That kind of shoots down your race theory dead, dead, dead?
StJouish 9 months ago
I have a question?
bachgod 1 year ago
@bachgod I think u r partly correct. It's combination of culture and socio-economics. Do u think there's a lot of Mozart and Haydn being played in poor neighborhoods? In African-American culture do kids want to grow up to play the french horn or play ball? And classical music takes some bucks. You got to buy the instrument and pay for lessons. Can't go to the top without lessons. And you need parental involvement. Taking to lessons. Shopping for best teachers. Making kid practice.
StJouish 10 months ago 2
@StJouish That comment seemed like african-american people are poor and ignorant.
galaxia567 9 months ago
@galaxia567 Whoops. My mistake. In African-American neighborhoods, people are crazy for classical music and especially Carmina Burana. And most people of color in the United States are affluent.
StJouish 9 months ago
@StJouish Your comment DID sound terrible, you know. But I think I understand what you meant (correct me if I got it wrong :P)...it's *not*, as some people are saying, a matter of taste, or a matter of liking hip hop/rap music/funk better than classical music...it's a matter of being excluded in every sense of the word, of not having access to this kind of music for economic, social and political reasons.
Solangeag1 2 months ago
@Solangeag1 I taught school in an urban-poor school district. I raised my kids in Lake Forest, Illinois and Ladue, Missouri-—both well-to-do school districts. My kids participated in sports, attended religious school, had lessons on multiple instruments. Most of my students in University City did not have these advantages. Culture means quite a lot. Read "Meaningful Differences in the Everyday Experience of Young American Children."
StJouish 2 months ago
@StJouish yeah, that's what I thought you meant to express, but I think it came out the wrong way! I'm from Brazil, and even if I'm lucky enough to have been born in the "right" social class (I wouldn't even be discussing here if I hadn't :P), trust me, I know what that means...there are very few places like Brazil where you can see so much social disparity (and where people are still dying for lack of food - but according to our governments that doesn't exist anymore, right? LOL)
Solangeag1 2 months ago
@Solangeag1 I am not sure why U say it came out the wrong way. Please, pinpoint the offensive sentence or words. I did not say anything about the character of the people, I was talking about the culture of the people. In professional class families, a 3 year old has heard three million words. In a welfare class family, a 3 year old has heard one million words. That's a carefully recorded observation from a study of 50 families.
StJouish 2 months ago
@Solangeag1 In landmark study of 50 families, the single greatest predictor of school achievement was the ratio of positive to negative social interactions which child had between 11 - 18 months. Professional class mother will avoid saying no or speaking harshly to her baby. Her ratio of positive to negative interactions: 4 to 1. In welfare class families, the ratio of positive to negative is 1 to 4. (In successful marriages , the ratio of positive to negative is 5 to 1. Being nice counts.)
StJouish 2 months ago
@Solangeag1 Don't shoot the messenger. The kids I taught didn't have food or heated homes in the winter. Very few had fathers living in the home. A lot had fathers living in jail. A lot of their recreational time was spent watching TV. (My own kids hardly every had time for TV—the vast wasteland.) Much classical music on TV? Sure on PBS. But they weren't watching PBS. Some of the kids were resistive to learning standard English. Sorry, people do judge you by your clothes and your speech.
StJouish 2 months ago
Ahh I remember singing this in Carnige Hall back in April with 2 other choirs...great memories to be had!
froggiebassoon 1 year ago
A vida maravilhosa
em cada acorde imprime
- modo belo de seguir.
ZemArte 1 year ago
Красота какая!.. Спасибо.
Paranich1 1 year ago
uqe es lo que hacen al principio?, afinan?
diazconias 1 year ago
@diazconias : Afinan, ajustan y terminan de calentar.
acracta 1 year ago
MOZART discloses to us internal horizons and revealed the bridge that
takes the humanity to the Sacred one. Gratitude for the indicated way and
direction is observed in his piece.
ourodoura 1 year ago
I am an incoming freshman and really want to play in this symphony next year, but i don't think that I am good enough :( does anyone know if there are other orchestras on campus?
monkeyaround92 1 year ago
Awesome! Check me out at 0:35:06
valuemeal2 1 year ago
@valuemeal2 Are you the baritone/bass (I'm not good with choirs) on the left?
AnAmericanComposer 1 year ago
GRANDES COMPOSITORES
jorgealbertobaron 2 years ago
que le sucede al Tenor solista,
En si bastante aceptable. bien.
rexangelux 2 years ago
The Lord Nelson Mass is a musical monkey on my back---I can never get enough of it.
Juliaflo 2 years ago 2
Sorry but... Total absence of colors, very few piano and forte, tenors non existent. Poor!
antiseri 2 years ago
Hate to agree with you cuz this is my alma mater, but I do have to agree with you. Don't understand why there is no shaping or shading of the line.
omtara 1 year ago
Great performance David Simpson!! Bello sonido y control. ¡Muy bien!
ptmaestro 2 years ago
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can I have my money back, o wait, I didn't pay anything. Whew, good!
TuskegeeFellow 2 years ago
i am in my school's concert choir and we are doing this mass (from gloria to credo) and i am the bass soloist... and i am so not singing as low as he is lol
tgioacchini 2 years ago
can i have the real one plese???
krm107 2 years ago
i subscribe to you
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This is the trial: men have loved darkness more that the light, because their deeds are evil-Gv 3,19
Now I want to meet you and all the good in a universal and permanent prayer all good for your heart and all that is good for the world every Monday of your life, from 20 to 21 I will be with you in spirit, with my love until the end of the world!
No matter your religion or your atheism I am still near you in your prayers! God bless all mankind, protect you and help you throughout AMEN ALLELUIA
lorenzojhwh 2 years ago
this is the song that never ends. it goes on and on my friends.
scrabblefan1169 3 years ago
my grandma has to sing this next saturday
19chevelle96 3 years ago
Actually, Mozart made Horn conc. for instrument called Es horn, two feet longer than this one and no valves, likewise Clarinet concerto is for basset horn, not for clarinet,both instrum. torture to play!!!!
stickom 3 years ago
close. the clarinet concerto was STARTED for the basset horn. Only a fragment remains. It was never completed for the basset horn. In fact, the fragment from the basset horn except is all that remains. The original for clarinet is lost.
It should be noted that the concerto was written for a basset clarinet which is a clarinet extending 4 semi-tones lower than usual.
Basset horns are not torturous; I like to play them!
ibrokemyfingerbowlin 2 years ago 2
Choir and orchestra- superb
Sopranogood intonation, but ornamentation horrible
Baritone and Tenor nice,
but shouldnt be castrato-countertenor instead of alto?
Mozart Horn concerto, so- so, he made it nice anyway.
stickom 3 years ago
my choir sings this next thursday..
wish us luck everyone!!
i hope we can do it justice..
wowhardcoreprep 3 years ago
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i know its a little late but, i hope your choir sounded like fuckin shit.
JackSmith07 3 years ago
wow. that is low, like if I were to say to you I hope you fuckin die. Thats wrong man what were you not given enough hugs as a kid? I hope that the people you did try and jynx did an amazing job, Ive performed the piece myself and I must say its an impressive piece so you know what Jack? Hope you fuckin die and if not I hope your miserable because by the sound of it, thats the most you deserve.
Talentabove 3 years ago
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Means nothing coming from such a lowly grease bag such as yourself. Take a fucking shower grease-boy. Your kind doesn't even belong listening to classical music. stick to that greasy jamaican rap. Now kill yourself, and take your stinking slippery race with with you.
JackSmith07 3 years ago
lowly grease bag?grease boy? Stinking slippery race?Ha is that really the best excuse that you have for the ignorance in the statement you just made?That because Im not of your race that I shouldnt be entitled to listen to classical music?Its funny how the most ignorant observations come not from the blind but rather from close minded pricks like you.So please give me a better excuse as to why I shouldn't be able to listen to classical music other then the fact that your a really racist person
Talentabove 3 years ago
whoa dude, you need some serious professional help
xHeteroChromia 2 years ago
we're singing this at school...it's so awesome, i love it. can't wait to perform it. songs in latin are wow!
xHeteroChromia 3 years ago
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really? wow. i hope you really fuck it up.
JackSmith07 3 years ago
thanks a lot
greetings to you too
xHeteroChromia 3 years ago
THIS IS THE MOZART HORN CONCERTO, This is NOT the Lord Nelson Mass. At least not the first five minutes I've listened to. Delightful as always, but rather not what I was looking for at this moment.
hiramcodex 3 years ago
Don't judge a concert by its first 5 minutes-- Lord Nelson was after the Mozart. It's not long enough for its own complete concert.
We sound even better than I thought! I wish I showed up in the video though, they usually cut the pan before I show up. Curse being on the end!!
valuemeal2 3 years ago
I saw this performed by the Cleveland Orchestra. That and this one are both great.
Twon0530 3 years ago
why do they take so long to start?
Ritzounett 3 years ago
They take so long to start because the person started filming way too early. They should have waited until after tuning to begin filming. It's not the orchestra's fault. Dr. Holoman is a great conductor :]
Kirasanban 2 years ago
they take way too long to start.
violalord1 3 years ago
Do I notice people in the front row with scores? Or are they big programmes?
dickdona 3 years ago
That would be awesome!
violalord1 3 years ago
i can't wait till my h.s. performs this on sunday...it's gonna be soooo good!!!
Isbell73 3 years ago
We don't really need to see/hear the tuning up. But if you guys insist. BUT this is not the Missa in angustiis (Lord Nelson Mass) !!!!!!!!!
dickdona 3 years ago
yes it is the lord nelson mass...you have to wait like 20 mins into it 'cuz they have another musical piece b4 it
Isbell73 3 years ago
Thanks, will wait and give it a listen. We perf'ed the Lord Nelson last month. What a work. What a hit.
dickdona 3 years ago
Wow this was awesome. We did this my Junior Year in College. Always one of my favorite peices of music....The Soprano is awesome...
No1ZmeskalFan 3 years ago
horror! poor haydn....
armycasa 3 years ago
yea ian ur totally gangster for commenting on a youtube video saying ur gangster
ur cool....
OTLHP07 3 years ago
ian...you're definitely not a gangster.
elphie512 3 years ago
That was incredible...
aries2125 3 years ago
hahaha, he trips at the very end when he walks out on stage.
Txsholdm 3 years ago
Ian Downing is a straight up Gangster!!!
Txsholdm 3 years ago