I HAVE PREVIOUSLY HEARD THE DALAI LAMA EXPLAIN THAT HE HAS BEEN
TRYING TO GET THE THE TIBETANS OF INDIA TO RULE THEMSELVES BUT
THEY KEEP ELECTING HIM AS LEADER! I HEARD THE DALAI LAMA SAY THAT TIBETAN BUDDHISM SHOULD STOP WORSHIPING OTHERS! THIS NOT WORSHIPING OF OTHERS MAKES ONE EQUAL AND ALLOWS FOR BETTER ENERGY FLOW!THUS A HIGHER STANDARD OF EXPERIENCE. BUDDHIST WRITINGS ENCOURAGE FIRST HAND SCIENCE LIKE EXPERIENCE & QUESTIONING NOT WORSHIPING/SPIRITUAL DEPENDANCE! ENLIGHTEN SELF!
Interesting how the poster of this video is from the PRC now living in Canada. I will give the PRC credit for one thing: when it comes to sneaky propaganda they take the cake.
No democratic leader in the world today would condemn or stop any form of religious worship.
Even the Pope dare not speak against other religions anymore.
Today's world leaders must show acceptance and tolerance of all forms of worship even the worship of Dorje Shugden.
The Dharamsala Tibetan Govt only has a few years left and they are on the decline. Their existence depends on Dalai Lama. Once he passes,THEY ARE FINISHED.
I advise them to stop all this anti shugden rhetoric.
In the lead up to the '08 Beijing games & after the recent unrest in Tibet, the London based Western Shugden Society has suddenly developed the volition and funds to have a large number of people follow the Dalai lama around the world, from Australia to Germany & the USA 2 try 2 malign his image.
It is Shugden practitioners who have to stop lying about what they have done to other Buddhists. They should live in Delhi where there is a Shugden community.
Obviously these protestants (mostly westerners from the NKT) have not support from the Tibetans or Buddhist community. Can you call peacful to yell: "Stop Liying"? I´ve seen them and hardly any westerner pays attention to them, and obviously the Tibetans neither. Thank you for posting the truth! Now we know who is liying and who is mixing dirty politics with Dharma.
A Tibetan cult, Shugden, is suspected of spearheading what could become a violent movement against the Dalai Lama. The posters may well be the handiwork of this sect. The writings on the walls of Dharamshala say the Dalai Lama and his followers will be assassinated if they do not leave India
The Dalai Lama said those who practice Shugden has no meaning in listening his chanting.
Those who want to practice Shugden do not have to live in Daramsara. They can get refugee statuses directly from India and establish their own community somewhere else in India.
Dear Phathue, thankyou for your comments. It's nice to see somebody speaking kindly and without anger here.
For Shugden practitioners, Dorje Shugden is regarded as a Buddha, an emanation of Yhe Tsongkhapa himself (the founder of the gelug tradition), so to go on to say that this practice is spirit worship is as incorrect and disrespectul with other people faith as saying that the Christians are evil worshipers because Jesus was a demon. This is exatly what DL is doing right now. So shameful!
it's funny to see white folks protesting for this "cause". i really think they should think of what to do with our own economy...just look at the US...our economy is going down the toilet yet they're protesting something that doesn't even involve them...so typical...butting into other country's business =/
amboy4, why are you avoiding my point. What I am saying is that Dalai Lama says that he is an authentic buddhist leader. If he is a sincere buddhist leader, then why is he destroying the 4 main traditional tibetan schools out of disrespect to the old masters, including his Root Spiritual Guide and Buddha himself, to create his own tradition? You have no clear answers for this, this is why you are still avoiding my questions. Your blind faith in your leader is not helping you nor anybody else...
Excuse me David, but I believe you presented some misinformation.
We Buddhists take refuge in the Buddha, Dhamma, and Sangha and not in a spirit or god.
And these aggressive, harsh, public displays of slander are all strictly against the Vinaya rules for ordained given to us by the Buddha himself. Our practice is to understand our mind and cultivate our heart.
Regarding His Holiness specifically, as a lineage holder he has the authority and wisdom to change the tradition as he sees fit.
Vinaya means "controlling" and refers to self-control of one's own mind. The ;peaceful Shugden protests have proved this worldwide receiving praise from police forces everywhere.
I personally met the officers at Scotland Yard in London before, during and after the May protests. They were very happy with us.
Contrast this to the shock of the New York police faced with 3000 rioting tibetans in July!
Also DL is DEFINITELY NOT a lineage holder-he has no authority
this kelsang pema is representing chinese government to against Dalai lama. using some poor tibetan to against the dalai lama with helping them visas to west, some stupid tibetans do anything for their own benefit. that is nothing unusual.
Are you follower of Buddha or Dalai Lama follower? Buddha said that we should check wether what he said was correct or not. Why you don't apply Buddha's teachings to the present Dalai? Do you think may be that he is superior to the actual Buddha? If you check what Dalai says you will find he is not following his own Spiritual Guide, nor Buddha himself, he is just banning the religious freedom of people in the world. He is giving such a bad example...
Kalsang gyaltso is real Hypocrite. He is great lair, he is not a Geshe. He looks very humble every body know him as a Hypoctite in his monastery. Lama yeshi invited him as a teacher in England in his centre, eventually he robbed his Dharma centre from FPMT Lama yeshi's centre. about this situation religions officer from Daramsala requested him many times but he didn't listen finally he robbed so he is robber as well.
2) He hates H.H.Dalai lama nd not allowed to put H.H.image in his center nd not allowed to read H.H.books,even not allowed to go others centres so,many of his students who found his behaver stoped to go his centre,however so called his centre actually he robbed frm FPMT Lama yeshi's centre.Now relation with CCP Goverment nd criticizing H.H.Dalai Lama
1) I knew these protesters follower of Kalsang Gyaltso, who is a great lair calling himself as a Geshe but not graduated and gain title Geshe. He lied many things as well many years ago his class mates and monks who r same hostel abandon relation with him.
Hey! You wrote letter to Dalai lama on such a sensative issue during such a sensative time and expect him to respond in a week time ..jokes ...this shows your evil intention of not seeking dilouge and also prove you are lying
Hey Bitch ! Watch your mouth, its on fire ? Do you releise that you are making the situation worse .....after seeing all this prorest during the most critical time of our freedom movment --Do you expect we tibetains to love and care shudgen supporter ? You are a deveil and sexually frustrated nun ---
This nuns are like real devil of our relegion! I guess most of them are hipee turned nun-looking for nirvana in few days ! Guess it is more of internal frausration due to absence of teacher ...
What you mean by relegion freedom ? Imposing your ideas and belief on well-established thousand years old budhist tradition. So you guys and Geshe Kelsang wants to teach all teahers, budhs and teacher that they are wrong and we should pratice eveil spirit ?
I HAVE PREVIOUSLY HEARD THE DALAI LAMA EXPLAIN THAT HE HAS BEEN
TRYING TO GET THE THE TIBETANS OF INDIA TO RULE THEMSELVES BUT
THEY KEEP ELECTING HIM AS LEADER! I HEARD THE DALAI LAMA SAY THAT TIBETAN BUDDHISM SHOULD STOP WORSHIPING OTHERS! THIS NOT WORSHIPING OF OTHERS MAKES ONE EQUAL AND ALLOWS FOR BETTER ENERGY FLOW!THUS A HIGHER STANDARD OF EXPERIENCE. BUDDHIST WRITINGS ENCOURAGE FIRST HAND SCIENCE LIKE EXPERIENCE & QUESTIONING NOT WORSHIPING/SPIRITUAL DEPENDANCE! ENLIGHTEN SELF!
SuperMarkjunior 7 months ago
this is a tibetan issue not related with westerner.....
Oransaint 8 months ago
Interesting how the poster of this video is from the PRC now living in Canada. I will give the PRC credit for one thing: when it comes to sneaky propaganda they take the cake.
LONG LIVE HIS HOLINESS, THE DALAI LAMA!
uranian99 11 months ago
THIS IS FILTHY PROPAGANDA
.This group pretends to be non-political.
But their collaboration with the Chinese Government to bring down the Dalai Lama is very political.
Find out more. Go to "Tibetan Buddhism goes West" for accurate information.
Varavaken 2 years ago
No democratic leader in the world today would condemn or stop any form of religious worship.
Even the Pope dare not speak against other religions anymore.
Today's world leaders must show acceptance and tolerance of all forms of worship even the worship of Dorje Shugden.
The Dharamsala Tibetan Govt only has a few years left and they are on the decline. Their existence depends on Dalai Lama. Once he passes,THEY ARE FINISHED.
I advise them to stop all this anti shugden rhetoric.
iwannaberich2007 2 years ago
But when will the dalai lama STOP LYING please?!
lionheart3724 3 years ago
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In the lead up to the '08 Beijing games & after the recent unrest in Tibet, the London based Western Shugden Society has suddenly developed the volition and funds to have a large number of people follow the Dalai lama around the world, from Australia to Germany & the USA 2 try 2 malign his image.
lttlebighrn 3 years ago
It is Shugden practitioners who have to stop lying about what they have done to other Buddhists. They should live in Delhi where there is a Shugden community.
tibetanheart 3 years ago
Obviously these protestants (mostly westerners from the NKT) have not support from the Tibetans or Buddhist community. Can you call peacful to yell: "Stop Liying"? I´ve seen them and hardly any westerner pays attention to them, and obviously the Tibetans neither. Thank you for posting the truth! Now we know who is liying and who is mixing dirty politics with Dharma.
andreslinaresteran 3 years ago
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According to a newspaper,
A Tibetan cult, Shugden, is suspected of spearheading what could become a violent movement against the Dalai Lama. The posters may well be the handiwork of this sect. The writings on the walls of Dharamshala say the Dalai Lama and his followers will be assassinated if they do not leave India
tenacioustaut 3 years ago
The Dalai Lama said those who practice Shugden has no meaning in listening his chanting.
Those who want to practice Shugden do not have to live in Daramsara. They can get refugee statuses directly from India and establish their own community somewhere else in India.
tibetanheart 3 years ago
then neither do the dalai lama followers need to live in tibet
547212436 3 years ago
His home is the potala palace.
and his followers are there.
Since they need the Dalai Lama, he will need to be back there someday.
tibetanheart 3 years ago
china would not have evicted him if he had a decent record
check the records dude, the dililama had bone goblets and stuff
547212436 3 years ago
Idiot puppet of the Chinese communist pigs.
chinesehearts1 2 years ago
You selfish dog. You don't have to live on earth. Go back to your flying saucer imbecile!
chinesehearts1 2 years ago
Dear Phathue, thankyou for your comments. It's nice to see somebody speaking kindly and without anger here.
For Shugden practitioners, Dorje Shugden is regarded as a Buddha, an emanation of Yhe Tsongkhapa himself (the founder of the gelug tradition), so to go on to say that this practice is spirit worship is as incorrect and disrespectul with other people faith as saying that the Christians are evil worshipers because Jesus was a demon. This is exatly what DL is doing right now. So shameful!
davidyogitube 3 years ago
it's funny to see white folks protesting for this "cause". i really think they should think of what to do with our own economy...just look at the US...our economy is going down the toilet yet they're protesting something that doesn't even involve them...so typical...butting into other country's business =/
lowincash 3 years ago
the americans never spent too much time out of war, and for what? national debt of a few trillion? that money could be better spent
547212436 3 years ago
amboy4, why are you avoiding my point. What I am saying is that Dalai Lama says that he is an authentic buddhist leader. If he is a sincere buddhist leader, then why is he destroying the 4 main traditional tibetan schools out of disrespect to the old masters, including his Root Spiritual Guide and Buddha himself, to create his own tradition? You have no clear answers for this, this is why you are still avoiding my questions. Your blind faith in your leader is not helping you nor anybody else...
davidyogitube 3 years ago
Excuse me David, but I believe you presented some misinformation.
We Buddhists take refuge in the Buddha, Dhamma, and Sangha and not in a spirit or god.
And these aggressive, harsh, public displays of slander are all strictly against the Vinaya rules for ordained given to us by the Buddha himself. Our practice is to understand our mind and cultivate our heart.
Regarding His Holiness specifically, as a lineage holder he has the authority and wisdom to change the tradition as he sees fit.
phathue 3 years ago
thats bullshit
547212436 3 years ago
But it is you who misunderstand.
Vinaya means "controlling" and refers to self-control of one's own mind. The ;peaceful Shugden protests have proved this worldwide receiving praise from police forces everywhere.
I personally met the officers at Scotland Yard in London before, during and after the May protests. They were very happy with us.
Contrast this to the shock of the New York police faced with 3000 rioting tibetans in July!
Also DL is DEFINITELY NOT a lineage holder-he has no authority
lionheart3724 3 years ago
this kelsang pema is representing chinese government to against Dalai lama. using some poor tibetan to against the dalai lama with helping them visas to west, some stupid tibetans do anything for their own benefit. that is nothing unusual.
amboy4 3 years ago
Are you follower of Buddha or Dalai Lama follower? Buddha said that we should check wether what he said was correct or not. Why you don't apply Buddha's teachings to the present Dalai? Do you think may be that he is superior to the actual Buddha? If you check what Dalai says you will find he is not following his own Spiritual Guide, nor Buddha himself, he is just banning the religious freedom of people in the world. He is giving such a bad example...
davidyogitube 3 years ago
I visited a Shudgen temple in Qinghai China last August.Those monks seemed to be very angry about Dalai...what a big hypo he is
daboohelix 3 years ago
Kalsang gyaltso is real Hypocrite. He is great lair, he is not a Geshe. He looks very humble every body know him as a Hypoctite in his monastery. Lama yeshi invited him as a teacher in England in his centre, eventually he robbed his Dharma centre from FPMT Lama yeshi's centre. about this situation religions officer from Daramsala requested him many times but he didn't listen finally he robbed so he is robber as well.
sonam21 3 years ago
2) He hates H.H.Dalai lama nd not allowed to put H.H.image in his center nd not allowed to read H.H.books,even not allowed to go others centres so,many of his students who found his behaver stoped to go his centre,however so called his centre actually he robbed frm FPMT Lama yeshi's centre.Now relation with CCP Goverment nd criticizing H.H.Dalai Lama
sonam21 3 years ago
1) I knew these protesters follower of Kalsang Gyaltso, who is a great lair calling himself as a Geshe but not graduated and gain title Geshe. He lied many things as well many years ago his class mates and monks who r same hostel abandon relation with him.
sonam21 3 years ago
Hey! You wrote letter to Dalai lama on such a sensative issue during such a sensative time and expect him to respond in a week time ..jokes ...this shows your evil intention of not seeking dilouge and also prove you are lying
nerchung 3 years ago
ad hominium...
547212436 3 years ago
Hey Bitch ! Watch your mouth, its on fire ? Do you releise that you are making the situation worse .....after seeing all this prorest during the most critical time of our freedom movment --Do you expect we tibetains to love and care shudgen supporter ? You are a deveil and sexually frustrated nun ---
Free Tibet
nerchung 3 years ago
eh im part tibetan too, ive been there for 2 years of my life (3 and 13) but anyways seriously
547212436 3 years ago
wow ur stupid
275l3 3 years ago
This nuns are like real devil of our relegion! I guess most of them are hipee turned nun-looking for nirvana in few days ! Guess it is more of internal frausration due to absence of teacher ...
What you mean by relegion freedom ? Imposing your ideas and belief on well-established thousand years old budhist tradition. So you guys and Geshe Kelsang wants to teach all teahers, budhs and teacher that they are wrong and we should pratice eveil spirit ?
Hey Frustrated nun-give up your robes
nerchung 3 years ago
you are stupid too
275l3 3 years ago
wow, stop using ad hominiums
275l3 3 years ago
Seeing the picture of that NUN with long head ( TOPAEK) and hearing her voice makes me PUKE. Such an ugly nun, no wonder she joined the nunhood.
tenzinzigme 3 years ago
BASTARD ENEMIES of BUDDHISM, TIBET, and TIBETAN. PUPPIES OF COMMUNIST CHINA..
tenzinzigme 3 years ago