CBS: evidence Sirhan Sirhan NOT the only RFK shooter

[MDJarv]

Anthony Hilder was one of the people involved.

[piscesman54]

@SilverBars42 "Oh please". That's the best argument you can come up with? Very compelling indeed.

[piscesman54]

@SilverBars42 It's not about seeking sensation, jerk. Behind every crime there is always a motive. The motive for taking RFK was the same as the one for removing JFK. They were both a threat to the secret government and to the Federal Reserve. In Robert's case they decided it was easier to nip it in the bud, before he became president.

[manuellopez1956]

@SilverBars42 Why does it have to be original? Just history repeating - it happens. Explain the shots heard AFTER Sirhan was stopped, and the multiple bullet holes, exceeding the 8 in Sirhan's revolver.

[Boelcke1916]

None of this surprises me. After all, at the time a woman in a pola dot dress ran down the back stairs loudly boasting that "We shot Bobby Kennedy."

[northbeachson]

If there were another gunmen in there people would have seen him, when will people realize that lone nuts cause the most damage, didn't we just see that in Arizona this past weekend.

[piscesman54]

@northbeachson You're missing a major detail. The lone nut in Arizona failed to kill the intended subject, precisely because he had no back-up. That was not the case with JFK, RFK, and MLK. And in the midst of the confusion of Bobby's killing it's very possible that no one saw the second gunman or woman. Diversion is a very old military tactic. Everybody was focused on the commotion caused by Sirhan. There were 3 CIA agents present at the hotel, all of them avowed Kennedy haters.

[northbeachson]

@piscesman54 You're wacko



[thestoryplease]

If 9/11 was not as stated (And I think there is evidence to support that theory) I think it cold ha e been that Osama, a former confidant of the CIA and whose family has close ties with the Bush's, might have been used to recruit suicide pilots. After the attack he likely would have been assassinated.

[piscesman54]

@thestoryplease They didn't need to. He died in December 2001 of natural causes. All the intelligence services in the Middle East know this.

[IwshIcldstrtover]

Van Praag is , by no means, a "Forensic scientist". He is nothing but an audiophile. Big difference. Shame on you, CBS, for not reporting this in an honest fashion!

[Iverson1232]

RFK was shot in the back of the head... with gun powder in wound meaning at close range and sirhan sirhan was 8 feet infront of RFK... only one close enough was the bodyguard behind RFK

[pennypyro42]

@Iverson1232 he was shot behind the right ear.

[Boelcke1916]

@pennypyro42 Yet, Sirhan was not behind Kennedy. Hummmmm????

[BigRooster747]

the other .22 is a typical assassination gun....

[cookiegate]

Yeah wtc7 was some bull. 911 was probably not Bin Laden. It was probably Bush and Cheney and his boys doing a false flag attack to justify going to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[johnnyfive22]

@cookiegate

oh please. 

[powercomm]

the CIA probably knew about Sirhan's intention to kill RFK and so making sure that RFK would be dead. Just like 911, the CIA knew about the terrorist attack and so making sure that the wtc1 and wtc2 go down but why would wtc7 went down on the same day at 5:20pm??? Interesting!!!

[Nominay]

I was wrong. I thought that thanks to how weak his memories and impressions were from growing up there. I don't think a bad experience there at age 12 lends to a decision to kill an American politican at age 24.

[Nominay]

That's what Sirhan would like to know!

[Xiber1]

they are just trying to sell a book and make some bucks, its all nonsense.

[ShnocolA]

They had an expert show Sirhan a quarter and he became instantly hypnotized. Israeli's secret service Mossad used him to fire a shot in that room. And hypnotized him to write in his notebook. there are allot of investigators who prove this.

[topcatoh]

morales the ugly CIA agent that hated the Kennedys has been videotaped on the scene/ Cia agents at the time where horrified he was at the scene....the secret part of the CIA - who runs that wing: Dick might know. WHBush may have some idea

[zyphelidor]

CIA.

[Nominay]

This news report is deceiving in that there has been evidence of additional shots fired ever since the night of the assassination. After that came out, the LAPD responded by destroying the evidence, which included doors and ceiling panels where the bullets entered, but there's still photographic evidence of it.

[onstageagain]

Sounds like your a expert on Future behavior. He was a disfunctional radical before he went in, 40 yrs later he's seen only a prison cells. He's street functional.That's laughable. Ever been in a prison? I've visited prisons. Even seen death row,Chowchilla Ca. Serhans gun fired 8rounds. I don't care who fired the fatal round. He could have been driving the get away car,& no gun.He's as guilty as the one who did it. thats the law. He'll never get out, & shouldn't,He's a confessed murderer.

[Nominay]

Sirhan has no record of being a dysfunctional radical. He was kind of a loser and a loner, but lots of people are. As long as someone doesn't hypnotize him, he's fine. Just keep him away from mind control progams.

[onstageagain]

Political radicalism or simply radicalism is adherence to radical views and principles in politics. that's the meaning of the term "radical... people on you tube... please convience me that Americans know what there talking about before they respond with ignorance.

[onstageagain]

Sirhan had a clear motive. When he was in custody police found in his pocket,newspaper clippings criticizing RFK for opposing the Vietnam War while favoring Israel military aid. Background check revealed as a young child in Palestine,Sirhan seen bodies of Arabs bombed by the Israeles, his brother was killed by a enemy truck avoiding sniper fire. Those early experiences left Sirhan embittered against American politics, like RFK, who supported Israel.This is  disfuntional radical behavior .

[Nominay]

That's simply untrue about finding newspaper clippings in his pocket. Sirhan spent his whole life in America except when he was an infant, he never saw Arab bodies bombed by Israelis in Palestine, besides he was born in Jordan, not Palestine. He has since felt remorse for Kennedy's death.

[onstageagain]

How bout this one... hears on for ya...After studying documents, talking to experts and interviewing a crucial witness, I believe there is strong evidence that Bobby's killing was carried out by more than one gunman. And, more shockingly, that the Greek shipping magnate Aristotle Onassis paid for the assassination.

[Nominay]

That's interesting but I'm interested in evidence. To me there's hard evidence of another gunman and soft evidence that the CIA was involved.

[piscesman54]

@onstageagain That's not what his highschool mates thought of him. Too much shrink interpretation here.

[onstageagain]

More incriminating was a notebook found in Sirhan's bedroom in LA. It contained anti-American,pro-communist sentiments,2 pages of scrawled repetitive references to killing RFK. Most damning read, "3/18/68 9:45AM My determination to eliminate RFK is becoming more & more sick, an unshakable obsession. RFK must die.

No record of being disfunctional radical? You call this a looser? Please, say your smarter than this! I seem never to be dissapointed with the intelligence of folks on Utube.

[Nominay]

Anyone who's studied about the notebooks knows that only a hypnotized person could have written them (would you like to include the other bizarre quotes like repeating the word "of" 18 times, and other nonsensical ramblings)? And that Sirhan had no memory writing them and professed no hatred for Kennedy.

[onstageagain]

This is all speculation, Books. Many highpowerd attorneys through the yrs have come forward to bring evidence as you are now.None proved to be true. I live here,photos have been released of newspapers, & notes he had . Now he was hypnotized? Americans love this.He was there, tape recorded conversation after he was capture doesn't sound like he was hypnotized to me.

A dysfunctional radical. Wrestled to the ground with the gun He was there, involved. which means he did it in this state.

[Nominay]

I disagree. I forgot the title but I have a book somewhere by authors Klaber and Melanson, give it a read.

[onstageagain]

What's hard evidence? What? and now you know how much I read? You read more than I , is that what you just said? You are wrong again when you say he was not close to him mom. First of all he lived with his mom in LA... and he was very close to him mom.

Books are not my hard evidence, and neither is this video.

This is copy from a live interview in prison with Sirhan Sirhan.

[Nominay]

No, Sirhan lived with his brother Adel. His mom was shocked and had no idea why he did it. The entire Sirhan family came to their own best guesses later as to why he did it. Rationalization was part of the acceptance process. If you want to make money writing a book, one on the RFK assassination is not the way to go. Might want to try one on the Jonas bros. instead. No, dedicated investigators who want the truth have written about this alongside charlatans and evidence seperates these factions.

[onstageagain]

again Not true... he lived with his mother. He talks about it in the taped interview. I have the transcripts.

[onstageagain]

U are stating what you read in a book. The transcripts are tape recordings that were released & transcripts of those are available by the person that went to his cell in prison, not once but several times. I have access to those,& so do others. You could get them, then you would not be claming as fact the stuff you are writing here as fact. This is him Sirhan speaking not a author in a book. What is your problem?Ive read books,Sirhan says different. So, send him this slop, argue with him.

[onstageagain]

This is not someone making $ on a book. From Sirhans mouth.

Knowing how close Sirhan was to his ailing mother who, had been his most ardent defender &understanding how much pain Sirhan knew he had inflicted on her, I asked him, when your mother dies, are you going to remember everything and come clean?

Furious with me for brining his mother into this Sirhan exclaimed raising his voice with each syllable, Change my story? Mr. Moldea, you're a motherfucker! fucking asshole!

[onstageagain]

The information is from Sirhans mouth. I have transcripts from taped recordings conducted by reporters in his prison cell. not some book that someone read & wrote about. Not hard evidence,period. I knew you were sending info taken from a book. Which there are many. Some say he loved him mom, others, he hated her. Again,this is not a class room, you are very uninformed.Sirhan says he had no knowledge of any conspiracy. Thats good enough for me. He was there. The author of your book was not.

[onstageagain]

Hears another one for you,According to Sirhan's mother, Mary he killed Kennedy because of his Arab nationalism. She said, What he did, he did for his country. He,believed he was deliberately betrayed by Kennedy's support for Israel in the June 1967 Six-Day War, which had begun exactly one year before the assassination. After his arrest, a spiral-bound notebook was found containing this diary entry, many nonsensical stream-of-consciousness scribbles about how he was driven to kill Kennedy.

[Nominay]

Who gives a shit what she thinks, she has no credibility. It's not like they were that close.

I know what Sirhan believed, I've read about him a lot more than you have. The fact that the writings were non sensical stream of consciousness scribble as you describe and that he has no memory of writing them and professed no hatred or plan to kill RFK should give you pause, but some people are stubborn.

[piscesman54]

@onstageagain You're absolutely wrong about Sirhan. Nominay is right. But that's not even the main point. The main point is he didn't do it alone. Neither did Oswald.

[frankd1965]

Free Sirhan Sirhan.

[onstageagain]

You must be kidding!

[Nominay]

Hey, as long as he's kept away from the CIA he oughta function just fine.

[chree2008]

true dat homie!

[frankd1965]

This case should be reopened.

[cotullaguy]

CIA killed JFK, MLK, RFK, did Waco, OKC, WT!, and 911. What else is there to know. FBI and Secret service were involved in Kennedy killings. ATF and FBI did Waco. FBI, ATF, CIA did OKC. CIA, FBI, Jew Media, Bush, Bin Laden family did 911. These are all facts and could be proven in real investigations.

Sirhan and McVeigh and Oswald all have something in common. They were patsys.

[onstageagain]

Serhans was wrestled to the floor with a gun fired 8rounds. I don't care who fired the fatal round. He could have been driving the get away car,& no gun.He's as guilty as the one who did it. thats the law. He'll never get out, & shouldn't,He's a confessed murderer

[YeeeeeeeHaaaaaa]

I do not think he should get out as he helped and shot at rfk...but, there was another shooter proving a conspiracy...also, there were cia agents in the room. proven. same ones that were on site at jfk's murder in dallas...why?

[onstageagain]

Conspiracy, Americans love this,all unproven. After three days men grow weary, of a wench,a guest & rainy weather. Tis what it is, I don't waste much time on something I cannot change. Time is what life is made of. If you would not be forgotten as soon as youre dead & rotten,Either write things worthy reading, or do things worth the writing. My daddy told me Son...

[cotullaguy]

My father told me to stand for something or you stand for nothing. Which is what your father apparently forgot to teach you son. it is unfortunate that you are not intelligent enough to realize that those two deaths did effect you. but, living in a mobile home, eating cheetos is not the way to live your life. if you want to change the future, know your past.

[piscesman54]

@onstageagain Non-Americans have a lot less trouble seeing things for what they are about America. They don't need to cling to their faith in American institutions like the CIA. They know full well, in fact much better than Americans themselves, what those thug organizations are capable of.

For somebody who "doesn't waste much time on something they cannot change", you spend an awful lot of time trying to defend the official tale with the most simplistic arguments.

[blockscar]

Tell that to the witness that were there..

[ROUL3TT3]

let the poor guy go...

he didn't do it

there only keeping him there cause he's an arab...

[jayswing69]

They are not keeping him there just cause he's an arab that's BS. He appologized for what he did plain and simple he did shot Robert, he may of not been the only one, but he said in a 1985 interview that he was sorry for what he had DONE!

[onstageagain]

You must be kidding! You just have to be kidding!

Why we are not like most countries & keep idiots like you out of this country. Give open season to killing arab's line up buying guns an start firing, When can we start? You & the idiot mexicans, it thought the Vietnam's were idiots until I came to Ca, & come in contact with Mexicans illegals, talk to those idiots, you will know why mexico is in the shape of Filth & Ignorance. Kill the women, stop making these idiot babies.

[piscesman54]

@onstageagain Aahhh, so now your true colors come out. Well, at least now you're starting to make some sense. I guess killing Mexican women doesn't fall under the category of "wasting time on things you cannot change".