@ofsn00 Music is sound organized with thought and emotion.
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Song-wise some lyrics may have empty meaning, but the actual sound that is music, is appealing or no one would listen to it. Rock evolved out of R&B who's to say something similar can't happen with pop? Anyone who says he Loves music and discriminates based on genre is a liar, if you like a rap song but you listen to mostly classical music, embrace what you like no matter what others say.& you may even introduce a great new genre.
I think hes playing too fast, this is probably the most sentimental caprice and requires a little more expressive playing. BTW: I prefer the Fischer's version for this caprice.
I like how he doesn't take the middle section too fast. most people race through it so they can show off. at least Milstein makes the most of the musical aspects...not something that is often done with this or any of the caprices.
This is beautiful... Music is music. Love it and you love all of it. If there is something you don't like then there may be an outside chance it isn't music at all .. hehe. I kid of course.
ninguna es mejor que otra (Clasica y jazz), ambas son exelsas y vistuosas. pero son algo diferentes, para la clasica se necesita saber y dominar armonia tradicional, y para el jazz, armonia contemporanea, para las dos necesitas tener muchos conocimientos sobre armonia, y las dos son exelentes. y ya he dicho.
Both forms of music can move people. Frankly, modern jazz, in my opinion, is much more technical then classical music mainly do to the theory involved. Though, do to the lack of theory, classical music can also be made extremely difficult with simply technical changes. Both have an easy side, and a difficult side. Both are amazing genres of music. A biased discrimination against any of the two is unfounded.
@CandyNJazz haha i would hav to disagree. i go to a music school. we hav a ton of classical majors as well as jazz majors. id hav to say classical music is far more technical. the theory on the other hand is more advanced in the jazz side. dats y jazz players are able to improv alot more with ease because they hav that theory foundation.but yes. classical and jazz do hav more and less difficult sides. (i wouldnt call it easy)
I really grew up on Classical music, mostly Baroque style, with Bach and since then I've gotten to like alot of music, including metal, which might I say, can be heavy with classical influence, and today it reflects my playing alot too, not just in a neo classical style, but the way it's played, it's beautiful, classical music will never die for that reason, it's timeless.
I dream to compose something for a metal group, its too bad that metal isnt more developed like classical, but music is changing and i think its time to make metal something better, and I would love to contribute by composing...
well certain metal isn't really developed, some stuff like atonal or dissonant metal I really like, although it's an acquired taste really, you probably wouldn't like it.
In fact, sometimes, those young metalheads (like me), can´t afford to take lessons in an early age, so we try to do our best with our own resources, and of course we're learning to read music, improving every day, it's a matter of cultural difusion. and we choose metal because is a different option of popular music, later we start learning about other kinds of art, Well, I'm just talking about the situation in my country.
Playing classical music well is a very difficult matter both technically and intelectually. That's why players like Menuhin and Milstein are revered. Composing violin music is another very difficult business, and that's why Wieniawski and a few others are revered to this date. It is absolute nonsence to compare with pop music, rock, etc,which in spite of their merits dont require the kind of formation classical musicians need to have.
@ofsn00 Absolutely its hard but thats not the only reason/s that those guys are revered. I know lots of musicians who play technically and intellectually very well and sound like what celery tastes like. I love celery but Menuhin knew how to make celery taste like Wagu beef. Composing violin music is difficult as well but to say one cant compare it to other types of music is just to pretentious in my book. You didnt mention Modern Jazz but I would assume you feel the same about that as well.
Modern Jazz, in my opinion, is just as and at times more difficult, intellectual and soulful as any modern or standard "classical" compositions. The lines between the two are actually becoming quite blurred, which I love. As I said before in this day and age there is no reason to be snobbish or pretentious about this music. If someone wants to play it on a electric guitar with a triple rec screaming then so be it. Its still great music.
Modern Jazz is the music worlds equivalent of a pyramid scheme. Only when you buy into it do you realize your folly, so you have to sell it to other people and once they realize they are idiots as well, the pyramid begins to grow. Its musics 'modern art' that has to be explained and pushed & sold to the listener. It appeals to wine connoisseurs, purveyors of art shows and people that have niche hobbies such as thimble collecting. Put simply, Modern Jazz is a joke, but not one with Punch & Judy.
U try to compare classic and jazz?!? and jazz for u more "difficult" and "intellectual"!? OMG! all classical compositors like Mozart, Chopin, Bach-whats is the most beautiful heritage of humanity less intellectual than some "nigga" from Brooklin or other "banana country's"? I think u a idiot-who 2 much "masturbate" yours small brain
Well, where to start? You said so much without saying anything at all. First, Im just gonna assume that you are not a musician (safe bet) with the ignorant jargon that came out of your head. Second of all, I wasnt and am not bashing classical music at all. I encourage you to go back and read carefully what Ive written. Obviously your english is very poor so maybe there is a language barrier here and you didnt quite understand the context of what I was saying.
Thirdly, all you did was mention the most famous and early composers and if you have studied music at all, which you probably havent, you would know that modern day Classical and Jazz have surpassed those compositional techniques decades ago. Now before you go off the deep end I am not saying those composers are trivial at all just that they have been studied thoroughly and have offered all that they can give which was a whole hell of lot.
Basically, all I said was that the lines between the two are becoming quite blurred and I like that. So before you make a fool of your racist self again you might want to check yourself and use some critical thinking.
@barimando Thank you. I agree, however technically I believe the composers not to be outdone all that much, especially paganini. Of course you did say that you don't mean that they were trivial at all so I can't necessarily disagree with what you said. For the record, I have studied music, I was just tired of My666vs777 "jargon". haha
@zezwaz . bullshit .. u a musicien? a u sure ? what kind of "music"? no let me guess - rock or metal! Really? explain what u do on classic cite - you primitiv moron? better watch metal - group "Rammstein" especially song "Buck dich" where u participate /lol/ in "blend off" position
@my666vs777 You've got a point, but for god's sake, your spelling is the equal to a 10 year old. And don't go bashing Metal or Rock, it's an awesome genre, but Rammstein is shit.
@my666vs777 Yes, I listen to metal, which, like Yngwie Malmsteen, is derived from Paganini....Dumb...Ass...Now, before you tell me to cite Classical composers, I'd like you too cite who taught you grammar and shoot them in the foot.(metaphorically) And besides you were bashing jazz, I told you to shut up, and you say I listen to metal. Truly your logic is derived from a gofer.
Do you know rock guitarrist like: Jimmy Hendrix, Jeff Beck, Van Halen, George Lynch Allan Holdswotth ecc?
They not only have a formation having played guitar for all their entire life, but they are absolute genius giving to the music something magic and new.
Mr. Paganini himself is mediocre compared with this guitar player I have maentioned.
@iperman68 You know all those guitarists just are typical song writers using the basic cheap techniques on making simple music? Paganini had to do it all in his head on paper.... Furthermore, Paganini created many new violin techniques and by far a new and unique element to classical music... All those guitarists are typical rock song writers, the base of the music is all generally the same. Just listen to their music. You have to be out of your mind to say Paganini is "mediocre".
@yamsters Paganini and punk rock have something in common... both revolutionised the music of their times!! Respect all forms of music, my friend. Your ears should not be designed to judge, but to appreciate, and respect music for what it is.
@ofsn00 The closest form of music that shares similar traits with classical music's affinity for technicality would be certain forms of metal. Yngwie Malmsteen is a good example of this.
It would be a shame to see you outplayed by a "Metal Guitar" player who cant even read read music but plays No. 5 caprice with more passion and conviction than one of you snobs that has played and studied for years.
@empoleon9999 That is right they are not. My response wasnt general and wasnt written in that way. Good for you that you branch out because there is a lot of great music out there to be heard if you are willing to listen.
I have to agree with MatthewDCarroll. Just because some "Metal guitar" players dont play so well doesn't mean the lot of them are shit! There are plenty of violin players and teachers that can't play Paganini well but they still do it. Besides, what's wrong with a younger generation getting turned on to Classical music! It has to be preserved somehow. You people stop being so damn pretentious about this wonderful music.
I'll agree most of it is just stupid, no talent people with drop D power chords and no knowledge of musical theory. But there are a few save good bands with alot of theory knowledge and very classically influenced music. I think electric guitar can be respectable if you know the theory and such, like Jason Becker as an example. Look at any of his solo stuff very classically influenced.
If you stop practicing then you have no chance. This should be inspiring not the opposite! Pick up your instrument and play it!! Don't wish any longer!
just as i thought, you're a metal head. Why do you listen to classical music? Do you think it makes you look intelligent if people see Bach next to Black Sabbath or Mozart next to Megadeath. At least try and appreciate it instead of just having it to look oh so different.
cause your comment is stupid and is even more stupin what you are saying now look at him playing novacek perepetuom movile, he can play fast but the point is this:
he is a fantastyc violinst and musician and when music doesnt requires to be fast he doesnt do it so thats why your comment is minus 8 actually
No that proves you don't know any guitarists. While it may be true that a lot of young people pick up guitars because of metal, in no way are most guitarists metalheads. I don't know know what your predisposition is, but you're obviously some sore prick for some reason. Enjoy N. Paganini like I am, and go fuck yourself. Thanks.
man what happened to all great music like this? Like the 60's or whenever this took place, would be the time i'd like to live in. You know with ALL The virtuoso's alive and performing. Like Horowitz, Rubenstein, Czirffa, Heifetz, and Nathan here. What a time that would be.
Playing like this must be Heaven! I used to play the violin and the amount of time it took every day to practice was really devastating. And I was merely a teenager playing for 'fun'. I wish I were a musical genius... And I would have to practice for hours anyway!!!
I know that. My son is a violinist, and it takes long time to practice and has to do every day. It is hard to finish homework and practice many hours plus a lot of rehearsals and many concerts. I feel the same way; I wish my son was a music genious, still we have to practice a lot. Many, many hours of hard work.
He remained noble and elegant way and the paganinianadivivision chords are a dvd-respond to Heifetz pulsedecoy in order to have time enough to organize fingering to the chord coming in two next bars. Hè would say " It`s better than nothing"
you know milstein...he leaves by the chords the highest tone alone,alltough they all had to be double stops,if one´d play this caprice in this fashion to him in lesson,he would throw the one out of the classroom.and he ´d say "the chords should be played as chords...thos are all doublestops,so what the fuck r u doing?"
shlomo mintz is not milstein! they own have their own interpretations. milstein is milstein mintz is mintz. now when you leave it to the opinions that is something different.
Dear mr.Winner, Milstein Himself suggested to save the e-string on caprice 17 intro before the sequence and Slomo is doing it.There will be interesting applications on the disminished octava higher and the last time doubleflageolets harmonics.THE TONAL LAW is with Kerry Keanu at Christies.Check the Dominic Busan 1773 this spring.The best statelitary base in the violin.
hey hombres,milstein style is allways great.TOO MANY DETAILS TO EVEN IT UP.ALL WRONG.ONE NEEDS TO BE BETTER TO JUSTIFY THE REASONS.GO HOME TO PRACTICICE LIKE THREE DOGS.
People critisizing the intonation, these recordings r not their original true pitches. It's impossible 2 know the original sound due 2 the lack of technology.
1 thing that I found interesting, was that he decided not 2 sustain the bottom voices 4 the Andante sections. Recordings of him playing Bach, 4 instance from the Partita in D minor - Sarabande, he surprisingly sustains every bottom voice that u can possibly sustain! I quite enjoyed his interpretation, like always, of this Caprice.
Those who criticise will never apreciate the beauty and greatness of these performers. I dont care whether they play flat. The point is to listen to they're harts not the notes. Appreciate!!!
If it's the higher C (not sure if that's what abburidotakaria had in mind), I think Milstein was aware of it since he made a tiny adjustment at the beginning. It sounds perfectly fine to me because the lower part of the vibrato is in tune, so you get the same amount of resonance with the E string.
That argument is a fallacy of logic. It's an "argumentum ad hominem"/"tu quoque". Basically meaning, you're attacking the person, and using the fallacy that just because s/he cannot play as well as Nathan, s/he is incorrect.
I think that chord around 1:44 was a bit off as well, but all the videos from this guy are great.
I think its a great argument, if you cant even come close to playing like milstein or performing this piece as well as he can "as a whole", dont complain over a single note and say that it was a bad performance, if you can do better show us. people say its two flat or too sharp here, thene they use that opinion as a pivot, they never see the performance as a whole.
Perkerno...somehow you are right, Paganini wasn't a first class composer....but as nearly all the violin comoposers who were violinist ( Sarasate, Laub , Spohr, Kreisler, Kreitzer...) they had some lack of imagination sometimes ( at my own taste ) , for me , the only exception is Ysaye , but anyway, Paganini knew how to compose a melodical sentence...and the most important thing, how to play is INFERNAL FUCKING passages that he composed. He left us an amazing heritage.
Actually, paganini music like the caprices are all pretty imaginative. Never before paganini have we seen such use of violin technique. He's the new height in violin technique and these works demonstrates it. As a composer, i can say bach is no paganini. lol
I think Bach is boring. Go figure. Well actually, I like a lot of Bach, just not his cellos suites and the majority of the partitas. In any case if you don't like his caprices you should listen to his violin concertos. They are really quite spectacular, especially "La Campanella" from Violin COnerto No. 2
Oh man, you must be crazy :-) Some of them have taken me a while to really appreciate, but the sonatas & partitas for violin are incredible. my absolute favorites are the fuga from sonata #1, the fuga from sonata #2, the chaconne from partita #2, and the fuga from sonata #3
Lol in the time span from the last 6 months to now I've grown to appreciate not only several of Bach's violin partitas but a few of his cello suites as well
The "straight bow" is only a technique imposed on younger students so that they develop proper wrist and arm position habits. Once you've developed those habits, maintaining a straight bow is not orthodox, especially since tilting can affect sound quality (we're talking high levels of playing).
It's not like I haven't heard Milstein play Paganini before, but still, I didn't know the caprice can sound so lyrical and touching (the opening section)!
there are plenty of little things you can point out. but as always with Milstein and Menuhin of course, the sheer compelling nature of the interpretation and presentation just makes them all irrelevant. and after all it's Paginini so you're going to get little bobbles anyway. still he manages to make it sound like music that deserves to be played instead of what it is, basically a technical exercise.
Hacer un capricho en violín es bastante complicado, este tipo cuantos hizo? Superó cualquier espectativa humaba al respecto.
Mahoflow 1 week ago
EXCELENTE
leoncioviolin 1 month ago
@ofsn00 Music is sound organized with thought and emotion.
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Song-wise some lyrics may have empty meaning, but the actual sound that is music, is appealing or no one would listen to it. Rock evolved out of R&B who's to say something similar can't happen with pop? Anyone who says he Loves music and discriminates based on genre is a liar, if you like a rap song but you listen to mostly classical music, embrace what you like no matter what others say.& you may even introduce a great new genre.
Jpmcke 2 months ago
4:05 pizzicato! how amazing...
eduardorios95 3 months ago
I think hes playing too fast, this is probably the most sentimental caprice and requires a little more expressive playing. BTW: I prefer the Fischer's version for this caprice.
hobbitgnr 4 months ago
11 people got frustrated trying to play paganini
gargoloso 5 months ago 2
I like how he doesn't take the middle section too fast. most people race through it so they can show off. at least Milstein makes the most of the musical aspects...not something that is often done with this or any of the caprices.
theoceanave 7 months ago
Sound, Technique, aesthetics, emotions, all are absolutely wonderful. Those chords sound more like they were inspired by Bach
ksviewerx 8 months ago
This is beautiful... Music is music. Love it and you love all of it. If there is something you don't like then there may be an outside chance it isn't music at all .. hehe. I kid of course.
Phoennix3 1 year ago
love
Bukamura 1 year ago
Truly one the GREATS in the history of Violinism.
MichaelJT123 1 year ago
Funny, i found this video on accident.. i like it! thumbs up :)
claus93Sethsen 1 year ago
ninguna es mejor que otra (Clasica y jazz), ambas son exelsas y vistuosas. pero son algo diferentes, para la clasica se necesita saber y dominar armonia tradicional, y para el jazz, armonia contemporanea, para las dos necesitas tener muchos conocimientos sobre armonia, y las dos son exelentes. y ya he dicho.
MrRogerFloyd 1 year ago
Both forms of music can move people. Frankly, modern jazz, in my opinion, is much more technical then classical music mainly do to the theory involved. Though, do to the lack of theory, classical music can also be made extremely difficult with simply technical changes. Both have an easy side, and a difficult side. Both are amazing genres of music. A biased discrimination against any of the two is unfounded.
CandyNJazz 2 years ago
@CandyNJazz haha i would hav to disagree. i go to a music school. we hav a ton of classical majors as well as jazz majors. id hav to say classical music is far more technical. the theory on the other hand is more advanced in the jazz side. dats y jazz players are able to improv alot more with ease because they hav that theory foundation.but yes. classical and jazz do hav more and less difficult sides. (i wouldnt call it easy)
TimChoFsho 1 year ago
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pegamoide12345 8 months ago
O_o awesome!!
absolutely 5 stars
trendypity 2 years ago
Beautiful melody, i'm a neo-classical lover, and i'm gonna try this one on my Strat :D
Megatrane 2 years ago
lol i was telling my self not to waste my time commenting this but lol i highly doubt you have a Stratavarious
ericgable 1 year ago 2
Maybe a copy of one ha ha ha
gibsonpaddy 1 year ago
I really grew up on Classical music, mostly Baroque style, with Bach and since then I've gotten to like alot of music, including metal, which might I say, can be heavy with classical influence, and today it reflects my playing alot too, not just in a neo classical style, but the way it's played, it's beautiful, classical music will never die for that reason, it's timeless.
froterons 2 years ago 5
I dream to compose something for a metal group, its too bad that metal isnt more developed like classical, but music is changing and i think its time to make metal something better, and I would love to contribute by composing...
By the way I'm a violinist 17yrs
signorpaganini 2 years ago
well certain metal isn't really developed, some stuff like atonal or dissonant metal I really like, although it's an acquired taste really, you probably wouldn't like it.
froterons 2 years ago
@signorpaganini metal is in the ranks of the lowest forms of music.
ViolaHero 2 years ago
learn to listen and get out of your snobbish bubble you idiot
BlackFeather713 2 years ago
@BlackFeather713 I can't even find my comment... What did I say?..
ViolaHero 2 years ago
That metal was on of the lowest forms of music...that's such an ignorant statement...
BlackFeather713 2 years ago
@BlackFeather713 comparatively, it's not.
ViolaHero 2 years ago
In fact, sometimes, those young metalheads (like me), can´t afford to take lessons in an early age, so we try to do our best with our own resources, and of course we're learning to read music, improving every day, it's a matter of cultural difusion. and we choose metal because is a different option of popular music, later we start learning about other kinds of art, Well, I'm just talking about the situation in my country.
DONCARAPAPA 2 years ago 4
One of my favourites from the 24 caprices :)
AreejObeid 2 years ago
Playing classical music well is a very difficult matter both technically and intelectually. That's why players like Menuhin and Milstein are revered. Composing violin music is another very difficult business, and that's why Wieniawski and a few others are revered to this date. It is absolute nonsence to compare with pop music, rock, etc,which in spite of their merits dont require the kind of formation classical musicians need to have.
ofsn00 2 years ago 65
@ofsn00 Absolutely its hard but thats not the only reason/s that those guys are revered. I know lots of musicians who play technically and intellectually very well and sound like what celery tastes like. I love celery but Menuhin knew how to make celery taste like Wagu beef. Composing violin music is difficult as well but to say one cant compare it to other types of music is just to pretentious in my book. You didnt mention Modern Jazz but I would assume you feel the same about that as well.
barimando 2 years ago
Modern Jazz, in my opinion, is just as and at times more difficult, intellectual and soulful as any modern or standard "classical" compositions. The lines between the two are actually becoming quite blurred, which I love. As I said before in this day and age there is no reason to be snobbish or pretentious about this music. If someone wants to play it on a electric guitar with a triple rec screaming then so be it. Its still great music.
barimando 2 years ago
Modern Jazz is the music worlds equivalent of a pyramid scheme. Only when you buy into it do you realize your folly, so you have to sell it to other people and once they realize they are idiots as well, the pyramid begins to grow. Its musics 'modern art' that has to be explained and pushed & sold to the listener. It appeals to wine connoisseurs, purveyors of art shows and people that have niche hobbies such as thimble collecting. Put simply, Modern Jazz is a joke, but not one with Punch & Judy.
pinworms70 2 years ago
U try to compare classic and jazz?!? and jazz for u more "difficult" and "intellectual"!? OMG! all classical compositors like Mozart, Chopin, Bach-whats is the most beautiful heritage of humanity less intellectual than some "nigga" from Brooklin or other "banana country's"? I think u a idiot-who 2 much "masturbate" yours small brain
my666vs777 2 years ago
Well, where to start? You said so much without saying anything at all. First, Im just gonna assume that you are not a musician (safe bet) with the ignorant jargon that came out of your head. Second of all, I wasnt and am not bashing classical music at all. I encourage you to go back and read carefully what Ive written. Obviously your english is very poor so maybe there is a language barrier here and you didnt quite understand the context of what I was saying.
barimando 2 years ago
Thirdly, all you did was mention the most famous and early composers and if you have studied music at all, which you probably havent, you would know that modern day Classical and Jazz have surpassed those compositional techniques decades ago. Now before you go off the deep end I am not saying those composers are trivial at all just that they have been studied thoroughly and have offered all that they can give which was a whole hell of lot.
barimando 2 years ago
Basically, all I said was that the lines between the two are becoming quite blurred and I like that. So before you make a fool of your racist self again you might want to check yourself and use some critical thinking.
barimando 2 years ago
@barimando Thank you. I agree, however technically I believe the composers not to be outdone all that much, especially paganini. Of course you did say that you don't mean that they were trivial at all so I can't necessarily disagree with what you said. For the record, I have studied music, I was just tired of My666vs777 "jargon". haha
zezwaz 1 year ago
Jazz has incredibly complex compositions, and often uses unusual time signatures. I think you are mixing it up with blues.
cerelilqt 2 years ago
@my666vs777
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Do us a favor. Shut up.
zezwaz 1 year ago
@zezwaz . bullshit .. u a musicien? a u sure ? what kind of "music"? no let me guess - rock or metal! Really? explain what u do on classic cite - you primitiv moron? better watch metal - group "Rammstein" especially song "Buck dich" where u participate /lol/ in "blend off" position
my666vs777 1 year ago
@my666vs777 You've got a point, but for god's sake, your spelling is the equal to a 10 year old. And don't go bashing Metal or Rock, it's an awesome genre, but Rammstein is shit.
SlaughterTheFrail 1 year ago
@my666vs777 Yes, I listen to metal, which, like Yngwie Malmsteen, is derived from Paganini....Dumb...Ass...Now, before you tell me to cite Classical composers, I'd like you too cite who taught you grammar and shoot them in the foot.(metaphorically) And besides you were bashing jazz, I told you to shut up, and you say I listen to metal. Truly your logic is derived from a gofer.
zezwaz 1 year ago
@ofsn00
Do you know rock guitarrist like: Jimmy Hendrix, Jeff Beck, Van Halen, George Lynch Allan Holdswotth ecc?
They not only have a formation having played guitar for all their entire life, but they are absolute genius giving to the music something magic and new.
Mr. Paganini himself is mediocre compared with this guitar player I have maentioned.
IMO
iperman68 1 year ago
@iperman68 You know all those guitarists just are typical song writers using the basic cheap techniques on making simple music? Paganini had to do it all in his head on paper.... Furthermore, Paganini created many new violin techniques and by far a new and unique element to classical music... All those guitarists are typical rock song writers, the base of the music is all generally the same. Just listen to their music. You have to be out of your mind to say Paganini is "mediocre".
yamsters 1 year ago
@yamsters Paganini and punk rock have something in common... both revolutionised the music of their times!! Respect all forms of music, my friend. Your ears should not be designed to judge, but to appreciate, and respect music for what it is.
imababyshark 1 year ago
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pegamoide12345 8 months ago
@iperman68 then your opinion is wrong
personof11777 1 year ago
@iperman68 did u kno that "Mr. Paganini" himself was a guitarist?
hojin92 1 year ago
@ofsn00 The closest form of music that shares similar traits with classical music's affinity for technicality would be certain forms of metal. Yngwie Malmsteen is a good example of this.
imababyshark 1 year ago
@ofsn00 there goes the reason why we Neo Classical Musicians Exist, honestly it's frustrating...
LienRanMizunagi 5 months ago
It would be a shame to see you outplayed by a "Metal Guitar" player who cant even read read music but plays No. 5 caprice with more passion and conviction than one of you snobs that has played and studied for years.
barimando 2 years ago
Not all classical players and listeners are snobs. I listen to rock and metal occasionally, while being a mainly classical listener.
empoleon9999 2 years ago 4
@empoleon9999 That is right they are not. My response wasnt general and wasnt written in that way. Good for you that you branch out because there is a lot of great music out there to be heard if you are willing to listen.
barimando 2 years ago
I have to agree with MatthewDCarroll. Just because some "Metal guitar" players dont play so well doesn't mean the lot of them are shit! There are plenty of violin players and teachers that can't play Paganini well but they still do it. Besides, what's wrong with a younger generation getting turned on to Classical music! It has to be preserved somehow. You people stop being so damn pretentious about this wonderful music.
barimando 2 years ago 9
amazing!!! loves him
gulisha520 2 years ago
why is everybody hating on metal?
I'll agree most of it is just stupid, no talent people with drop D power chords and no knowledge of musical theory. But there are a few save good bands with alot of theory knowledge and very classically influenced music. I think electric guitar can be respectable if you know the theory and such, like Jason Becker as an example. Look at any of his solo stuff very classically influenced.
MatthewDCarroll 2 years ago 3
definitely, i was listening to some of his music and could hear paganini all throughout.
CornDoctor 2 years ago
my god, hearing those trills makes me wanna stop practising competely. i hope i get that good one day
carrottoponcrak 2 years ago
If you stop practicing then you have no chance. This should be inspiring not the opposite! Pick up your instrument and play it!! Don't wish any longer!
barimando 2 years ago
im listening to classical music cuz i love it and cuz musician must know from where it all came dont you think>?
rockpop1 2 years ago 4
hey why the hel you ppl gave me -4 i just said it will be awesome if he was a guitarist like malmsteen or something he will be fast as hell
rockpop1 2 years ago
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just as i thought, you're a metal head. Why do you listen to classical music? Do you think it makes you look intelligent if people see Bach next to Black Sabbath or Mozart next to Megadeath. At least try and appreciate it instead of just having it to look oh so different.
TLDR - metal is shit
apetheory 2 years ago
cause your comment is stupid and is even more stupin what you are saying now look at him playing novacek perepetuom movile, he can play fast but the point is this:
he is a fantastyc violinst and musician and when music doesnt requires to be fast he doesnt do it so thats why your comment is minus 8 actually
bastianloewe 2 years ago
magnifik
o2perrier 2 years ago
When asked how he got so good Milstein
replied "In Russia there was no radio or television so I practiced ..." Ha! He had a wicked
sense of humour.....
oracleofottawa 2 years ago 4
That is not sarcasm...that is the truth!
barimando 2 years ago
Why doesn't play double stops in the theme???
levapk 3 years ago
now imagen if he was a guitarist
rockpop1 3 years ago
yeah, this wouldn't be half as good!!
cinemaantitese 3 years ago 2
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agreed, violin > guitar any day. 98.8 percent of guitarists are just metal heads. Classical guitar is very respectable though.
CornDoctor 2 years ago
What part of your a-hole did you pull that fact from, that's a stupid thing to say.
FreeInquisition 2 years ago
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that proves that you are a stupid loser who just plays metal on a guitar and think that you are FREAKIN AWESOME because you can play a few chords
CornDoctor 2 years ago
No that proves you don't know any guitarists. While it may be true that a lot of young people pick up guitars because of metal, in no way are most guitarists metalheads. I don't know know what your predisposition is, but you're obviously some sore prick for some reason. Enjoy N. Paganini like I am, and go fuck yourself. Thanks.
FreeInquisition 2 years ago 6
why?
tsunami8686 2 years ago
Bellisimo el caprice, Excelente ejecucion.
anzdf 3 years ago
Thats for sure , now ya talking my language.
mikkola002 3 years ago
his fingers are like little hammery sausages.
cellolove7 3 years ago 7
Funniest thing I've heard all day.
cromulentinnoc3nce 3 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Violincrazy 3 years ago
What is so funny i can't understand...
jasonform 3 years ago
i dunno....i just kinda wrote it....some people think it's really funny....?
cellolove7 3 years ago
Hahaha, it is funny. Hammery sausages...maybe it's also because it's punny because "ham" and "sausage" are both pork based products. :P
masael255 2 years ago
man what happened to all great music like this? Like the 60's or whenever this took place, would be the time i'd like to live in. You know with ALL The virtuoso's alive and performing. Like Horowitz, Rubenstein, Czirffa, Heifetz, and Nathan here. What a time that would be.
godsloved3 3 years ago 3
Hey there are a lot of amazing players now a day... but unfortunately people only notice them when they die...
We've perlman, vengerov, zukerman, shlomo mintz, kremer, accardo sara chang etc... and in the future myself:P
signorpaganini 3 years ago 3
I call him Hurricane Nathan because he blows me away. RIP, dude.
TLSB43 3 years ago 6
me too me too!
violatione 3 years ago 2
En definitiva el mejor violinista de su tiempo!!
Who's the next......
newtheb 3 years ago
а мне не понравилось, медленно слишком.
Akademik85 3 years ago
Paganini would have been envious!
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago
Playing like this must be Heaven! I used to play the violin and the amount of time it took every day to practice was really devastating. And I was merely a teenager playing for 'fun'. I wish I were a musical genius... And I would have to practice for hours anyway!!!
marylovesfrank 3 years ago 4
I know that. My son is a violinist, and it takes long time to practice and has to do every day. It is hard to finish homework and practice many hours plus a lot of rehearsals and many concerts. I feel the same way; I wish my son was a music genious, still we have to practice a lot. Many, many hours of hard work.
takamori400 3 years ago 2
I love practicing!!!!! Quid est "devastating?" It's delightful! And I'm not a musical genius either.
cellolove7 3 years ago
When I watch videos like this I always feel proud for Russian classical school. It's too bad that country fucked its own people.
plemax 3 years ago 2
he was the best
Edoom21 3 years ago 2
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boring
acorulez 3 years ago
YOUR MUM IS BORING
pesterlovis 3 years ago
THE KING !!!!
Rephrat 3 years ago 19
He remained noble and elegant way and the paganinianadivivision chords are a dvd-respond to Heifetz pulsedecoy in order to have time enough to organize fingering to the chord coming in two next bars. Hè would say " It`s better than nothing"
mikkola002 3 years ago
...he was known to be an extreme perfectionist as a teacher,im sure he wouldnt buy this chords as they are played here.
paganviodio 3 years ago
you know milstein...he leaves by the chords the highest tone alone,alltough they all had to be double stops,if one´d play this caprice in this fashion to him in lesson,he would throw the one out of the classroom.and he ´d say "the chords should be played as chords...thos are all doublestops,so what the fuck r u doing?"
paganviodio 3 years ago
shlomo mintz is not milstein! they own have their own interpretations. milstein is milstein mintz is mintz. now when you leave it to the opinions that is something different.
violaplayer1995 3 years ago
Had lessons at mayfair regent,charged nothing,had to think the way to do it.
mikkola002 3 years ago
Shlomo Mintz was the first person I forever heard play Paganini and he will be remembered by me.
OtherWorld 4 years ago
Dear mr.Winner, Milstein Himself suggested to save the e-string on caprice 17 intro before the sequence and Slomo is doing it.There will be interesting applications on the disminished octava higher and the last time doubleflageolets harmonics.THE TONAL LAW is with Kerry Keanu at Christies.Check the Dominic Busan 1773 this spring.The best statelitary base in the violin.
mikkola007 4 years ago 3
...but have you HEARD, or for that matter, SEEN Shlomo Mintz lately,,, at the extremely old age of 50?!
MrFullService 4 years ago 2
hey hombres,milstein style is allways great.TOO MANY DETAILS TO EVEN IT UP.ALL WRONG.ONE NEEDS TO BE BETTER TO JUSTIFY THE REASONS.GO HOME TO PRACTICICE LIKE THREE DOGS.
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It was out of tune, but he tastefully backed off.
violinista53 4 years ago
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His playing seems almost awkward when you compare this to Shlomo Mintz's rendition, which is played with the most utmost "economy" of body movement.
winrx 4 years ago
People critisizing the intonation, these recordings r not their original true pitches. It's impossible 2 know the original sound due 2 the lack of technology.
1 thing that I found interesting, was that he decided not 2 sustain the bottom voices 4 the Andante sections. Recordings of him playing Bach, 4 instance from the Partita in D minor - Sarabande, he surprisingly sustains every bottom voice that u can possibly sustain! I quite enjoyed his interpretation, like always, of this Caprice.
tysond7 4 years ago 4
Those who criticise will never apreciate the beauty and greatness of these performers. I dont care whether they play flat. The point is to listen to they're harts not the notes. Appreciate!!!
jcvelaz 4 years ago 4
I also could tell that the E-string was a little off tune. But who cares?
paiclant 4 years ago
this is amazing. wonderful. I could honestly give less of crap if it was a little sharp or flat to your perfect ears.
BrokenFrench 4 years ago
his e strins was sharp...u could tell on the last chord that leads to the presto
violaplayer1995 4 years ago
Everything sounds great, if you were to learn this piece you would understand how hard it is to play music such as this.
Flat or sharp, as long as it sounds good, it's fine by me.
cfeAncient 4 years ago 3
"Expert" one: its wrong cuz its too flat
"Expert" two: its wrong cuz its too sharp
stfu and watch a master at work
happyfunnyfoo 4 years ago 6
ehh, it could've been worse.
buddapeople 4 years ago
ouch, that chord at 1:44 is extremely out of tune!
abburidotakaria 4 years ago
Which note/interval is out of tune? The C, G or the higher C (can't be the E I guess since it's open string)?
msiu 4 years ago
the higher C is out of tune(it's too high....)..it doesn't matter..great version!!
claviolino 4 years ago
If it's the higher C (not sure if that's what abburidotakaria had in mind), I think Milstein was aware of it since he made a tiny adjustment at the beginning. It sounds perfectly fine to me because the lower part of the vibrato is in tune, so you get the same amount of resonance with the E string.
msiu 4 years ago
it's actually a little too flat
AbsoluteZ3R0 4 years ago
soo good, anyone that says otherwise, pick up your violin and show us.
gnatural 4 years ago
gnatural:
Not to be rude, but...
That argument is a fallacy of logic. It's an "argumentum ad hominem"/"tu quoque". Basically meaning, you're attacking the person, and using the fallacy that just because s/he cannot play as well as Nathan, s/he is incorrect.
I think that chord around 1:44 was a bit off as well, but all the videos from this guy are great.
gymnotropic 4 years ago
I think its a great argument, if you cant even come close to playing like milstein or performing this piece as well as he can "as a whole", dont complain over a single note and say that it was a bad performance, if you can do better show us. people say its two flat or too sharp here, thene they use that opinion as a pivot, they never see the performance as a whole.
thats all.
gnatural 4 years ago 3
Milstein is so sure of himself. Fearless.
rrrgrrr 4 years ago
beautiful, I love the way milstein plays it.
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ringworm47 4 years ago
He has a very beautiful sound...completely different from Heifetz...
Romanticloser16 4 years ago
also better than heifetz
HeifetzSucks 4 years ago
i agree. Milstein hidh notes re never shrill.
rrrgrrr 4 years ago
my fav caprice...plays like a duet, milstein did good w/ this
darkxrevolt 4 years ago
In 01:49 was he playing those triplets or dotted sixteenth?It's supposed to be played like dotted sixteenth notes right?
ppppplllll555 4 years ago
Flawless as usual!
sherom 4 years ago
Bach isn't bad at all. his musics are pretty good
ppppplllll555 4 years ago
Perkerno...somehow you are right, Paganini wasn't a first class composer....but as nearly all the violin comoposers who were violinist ( Sarasate, Laub , Spohr, Kreisler, Kreitzer...) they had some lack of imagination sometimes ( at my own taste ) , for me , the only exception is Ysaye , but anyway, Paganini knew how to compose a melodical sentence...and the most important thing, how to play is INFERNAL FUCKING passages that he composed. He left us an amazing heritage.
KoganSvetlanov 5 years ago
what about vivaldi, he was not lacking in imagination
Clovax 5 years ago
Hum, in the sonatas of Ysaÿe, you can nearly find the partitas of bach and some airs from the caprices
he inspired himself from bach and paganini to create those sonatas
but it's great nonetheless, far from me the idea of saying that he haven't any imagination
Zvax 4 years ago
Perkeno... you dont know anything about composing... shut up
camiloacosta 5 years ago
how you dare to compare?... damn!
Eudulio 5 years ago
Dear sissy,thank you wery much for this video.
karaseko 5 years ago
seu q ele nunca seria um solista eis ai um belo solista
beto474 5 years ago
Boring? Hmmm, what you interest you guys then?
vioguru 5 years ago
which scale caprice 11 is on
nemo485 5 years ago
It's in C major (listen carefully to the first three chords.)
nsimington 5 years ago
Actually, paganini music like the caprices are all pretty imaginative. Never before paganini have we seen such use of violin technique. He's the new height in violin technique and these works demonstrates it. As a composer, i can say bach is no paganini. lol
cuzigothighh 5 years ago
His playing is great. But except for one or two, Paganini Caprices are pretty boring. As a composer, Paga is no Bach.
Perkeno 5 years ago
how are they boring?
dfvjg 5 years ago
bcs they are repetitive, unimaginative, Czerny-like? As a composer, Paganini is pretty dull IMHO.
Perkeno 5 years ago
I think Bach is boring. Go figure. Well actually, I like a lot of Bach, just not his cellos suites and the majority of the partitas. In any case if you don't like his caprices you should listen to his violin concertos. They are really quite spectacular, especially "La Campanella" from Violin COnerto No. 2
AbsoluteZ3R0 5 years ago
Oh man, you must be crazy :-) Some of them have taken me a while to really appreciate, but the sonatas & partitas for violin are incredible. my absolute favorites are the fuga from sonata #1, the fuga from sonata #2, the chaconne from partita #2, and the fuga from sonata #3
lordnifield 4 years ago
Lol in the time span from the last 6 months to now I've grown to appreciate not only several of Bach's violin partitas but a few of his cello suites as well
AbsoluteZ3R0 4 years ago
Beatyfull. Remember baroque music. (i dont know much about classic music)
gigamax1978 5 years ago
The "straight bow" is only a technique imposed on younger students so that they develop proper wrist and arm position habits. Once you've developed those habits, maintaining a straight bow is not orthodox, especially since tilting can affect sound quality (we're talking high levels of playing).
HenryZLiao 5 years ago
Also, he seems to be playing without a shoulder rest, which alters the position of the violin when he makes broad arm motions.
HenryZLiao 5 years ago
He is not alone- check out Heifetz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJymvZiEFeo There are MANY others as it has its very special advantages.
alanparmenter 5 years ago
Is it bad that his bow doesn't move straight? I haven't been playing for long, but I was taught that the bow should go straight.
noahwyle 5 years ago
professionals don't play with a "straight" bow...it always moves according to the situation
skiritz 5 years ago
I'd also like to point out that as my teacher says: the judgement is the "sound"
You are justified or dis-justified based on your sound. Altho he "ALWAYS" plays straight bow, unlike his teacher, Heifetz.
Watch Heifetz. He has a funny wig at the frog of the bow.
Both Milstein and Heifetz play with "straight" pinky, which is probably different than 95% of the professionals today. But they are the MASTERS
ccccwwwwc 4 years ago
Mhmm. I love the phrasing. This is the best rendition out of many that I've heard. I love Milstein's playing - forever fresh and charming!
cgzH 5 years ago
really a carprice?????
conniesu 5 years ago
It's not like I haven't heard Milstein play Paganini before, but still, I didn't know the caprice can sound so lyrical and touching (the opening section)!
msiu 5 years ago
Wow! I was waiting for a mistake or some bad tone, anything, being a critic. Perfect. Just amazing. Peace
hamwinkie 5 years ago
there are plenty of little things you can point out. but as always with Milstein and Menuhin of course, the sheer compelling nature of the interpretation and presentation just makes them all irrelevant. and after all it's Paginini so you're going to get little bobbles anyway. still he manages to make it sound like music that deserves to be played instead of what it is, basically a technical exercise.
trevorpinnocky 5 years ago
Milstein rules.
felixmendelssohn 5 years ago
I like Milstein's interpretation of Paganini, he's playing it like Bach :)
marking99 5 years ago
Nice, I never thought of this. You may be on to something? Actually correct now I am hearing more. Peace
hamwinkie 5 years ago
Great. Thanks!
hkstrpd 5 years ago