Race - Toyota MR-S vs S15

[hgenesis10]

thats not fair though!! thats keichi tsuchiya... no matter what car he drives he wins at touge all the time!!! jaaajajajaa

[lajlijthoj]

Anybody else wondering why the spring rate is set at F-5kg and R-12kg for the MR-S?

I find MR the hardest to set-up for lapping and autox if anybody has tips.

[mmdaniels33]

K20 that mr-s!! 

[Douglas6250]

lol... MRS is the "seed" racer.....

[Douglas6250]

Oh dear.... Tsuchiya is making these bad comments on the S15 from his own shop !!

[McLindenProduction]

is this supposed to be a race track? damn....

[magishhh12]

can the MR-S be any uglier?

[inhuman216]

@magishhh12 I kinda like what it looks like.

[SmArTiEmArT]

damn. i wish i knew what they were saying haha

[TOLIS2121AEK]

@SmArTiEmArT you can look for gtchannel,,,it has these episodes in english(subs and an english commentator)

[EffroyableMat]

power vs handling

handling WINS!!!

[orido24]

s15 hands down best car. WELCOME TO MY HOME!!! NO GRENADES!!!

[fcukendeedeedee]

3:22 Tsuchiya's laugh is priceless

[graffiti1985yu]

MR-S is beautiful car

[sodafishshu]

OMG the MR-S wheels are the most beautiful things I've ever seen. Take a look at 1:46. Mmmmm.

[mikemclarenf1]

wow. the chinese subtitle on this vid is so incorrect.

[mpalm887]

Man, how do you make a 2zz perform like this naturally aspirated? Amazing car.

[lukejwillmot]

this vid is so good i have all 3 of the mr2 and they are one of the most fun cars to drive and have a quality of there own!!

[megabowzer]

i love the way he says "touge battle" at 1:41...japanese people are the coolest and tsuchiya is one hell of a driver...i have so much respect for these guys..racing is in there blood..

[chimaera1855]

guys i am getting a spyder soon.question better 1ZZ+turbo or n/a 2ZZ and maybe in the long run +turbo???and how will it affect the handling??tks for ur help

[john1120]

jus buy a tc lol.

[sleepisyummy]

get a tc. they have better potential if you're thinking about turboing the car you get.

[Slidingmy240sx]

SR's are better than that pos 2.4L in the tC. Toyota couldnt even improve on what the KA24DE did already

[pasingpogi]

@Slidingmy240sx

well for te SR's toyota got the 3sgte for that, and the k24 hmm,, the 3sge?

[Slidingmy240sx]

lol. the S15 SR produces more power and torque than that 3S-GTE :)

[Katlunazul]

What??? I have read some of your comments and you know NOTHING about cars dude.

And now saying "get a tc"?? Are you mad? That car is bad from the get go!

Besides, there is no point on turbocharging the car since it is a heavy ass FWD car with its center of gravity high as a SUV.

[sleepisyummy]

You're an idiot. Look up turbo tc videos. Or even full bolt on tc videos. They run with bolt on RSX Type S's but do not beat them. Also....

IT WAS MADE TO BE TURBOED. Dumbass. Read up on the 2az-fe. You don't need any upgraded internals to turbo a tc. It's cheaper, more powerful, and more effective to turbo a tc as well.

[Katlunazul]

A tc could beat an RSX just due to the extra torque earlier on. But the tc is a boring POS that runs out of steam after 4000-5000rpms.

Not to mention again all the flaws that the car itself has.

Besides, I did NOT say that you cannot turbo a tc, I said it was POINTLESS you retard!

Learn how to read and undesrtand before you call people stupid.

[sleepisyummy]

why is it pointless? It's sport. Fun. I'd rather install a turbo myself and learn to tune it properly than buy a car with a turbo in it already. Nobody cares what you say about the Tc's "flaws" it still is a good car.

[Slidingmy240sx]

the tC is a CRAP car!!! It's heavy...lazy engine...its car for a girl to go pick up her friends from the club with.

[pasingpogi]

Lol, +1 on this!!

Don't get me wrong, I'm a toyota lover myself, got an ae86 with 4age 20v and an NA mk2 mr2.

TC isnt a toyota sports car that can replace either the MR2 OR the Celica, Scion cars are small cute looking car and that;s about it!! What does TC mean for sport cars enthusiast ?? Toyota Crap!!!

[dcin1]

@pasingpogi well your not really a toyota guy then chris rado tC's in probaly the fastest track FWD ever not to mention ptunning car plz lets not bash the tC it may not be JDM but takes well to mods

[ixfxi]

@Slidingmy240sx TC is a big turd.  agreed.

[Slidingmy240sx]

SR20DET <3

they shouldve dropped a 3S-GTE in longitudally mounted to be RWD.

[sleepisyummy]

thats a nasty engine, i did a lab report on it actually just a few days ago. 240 horsepower beastttt

[Azuremen]

The tC may produce more power than an MR-S, but handles like crap in comparison. I've auto crossed both, and have a lot of experience with MR cars.

If you want a car that can run mid 12's, just turbo the 1ZZ-FE in the MR-S. Personally, I"d go with a 2ZZ-GE setup for the better throttle response, as it will make the car easier to manage at the limits during cornering.

[sleepisyummy]

Or i could just turbo my corolla's 1zz-fe. Lol. But to do that I'd have to completely rebuild the internals which is alot of time and money that I have neither of. Just a simple 2zz swap would be great. Also on a sidenote, the Tc can handle perfectly if you spend a little money on the suspension for coilovers, and bigger tires.

[chimaera1855]

guys can the 3s gte been swap into a mrs???

[carmodifire]

k20a can

[Slidingmy240sx]

Thats a Time attack MR-S...vs a street tuned S15...

for God sakes...they relocated the gas tank...straight pipe, fully stripped...and aero...along with a bunch of racing car bitz....this is a farse...

if you put it up to the time attack S15 from Yashio or Sunline...this video would totally be different

[sleepisyummy]

yeah cause you know. N/A vs. FI is always fair. Thats why they did it. The driver of the S15 could have easily beaten Tsuchiya. He just couldn't handle the car's power correctly. A car that has decent speed but great handling (MR-S) vs. a car that has insane speed but just decent handling (S15). Obviously a track tuned S15 would rape that same MR-S

[Slidingmy240sx]

this video explains the lightweight concept of cars...not necessarily the MRS vs the S15. But the S15 isnt just "decent" it definitely is an Awesome handling car, its just in this video, a street tune car isnt as good as a track tuned car in twisties. + you're talkin about the HKS work's/JGTC driver that owns 3 S-chassis'.

[sleepisyummy]

yeah. that driver has one insane S15 that he actually races against Tsuchiya and beats him straight up I believe. The MRS is so hard to beat with him driving.

[piegonhole]

your insane.

[War10ck1004]

@Slidingmy240sx but the mr-s is only 190hp...whereas the S is 320...

[NerdOsiris]

@War10ck1004 In a tight 'track' like this the S chasis really can't show off all those horses. Too much power I think. Although 'Slidingmy240sx' argument is fail because even if they did strip the s15 and what not the mrs would still win. It's mid engined and specifically designed for tight cornering.

[ThaCrunksta187]

lol the s15 wanted to drift so bad. I think that is what it is built for anyways.

[MadMigMR2]

OMG seeing this video remembers me off my project that had to be canceled until new legislation comes to portugal (simply you can't mod cars!!!) I have a GT300 kit now stored on it's original box, waiting for money to buy another mrs just for track use and then continue to upgrade it to something similar to that Techno Pro Spirit. That car was my inspiration! I loved the battle NA vs Turbo (under 2000cc) were MRS was fighting with the S14's and the tuned S2000 with keychi on the wheel was smoked

[downset]

the s15 is a piece of junk

[MarTin3Z420]

its very good for drifting, i think this is a test

[shocker792]

Yes and for it's power I think it is a very fast car

[EARTHza323]

not da car diver is the junk ok

[Thriced2286]

2zz tuned with powerFC FTW

[HatageKakashi]

Lucky you.. I only manage to drove an FC and old lancer model only.. thats the only sports car I have ride.. How does it feel inside it??? comfortable??

[Bellantoni]

I love Tsuchiya's laugh.

[picius14]

he can lol'ing about everything :D

[Slidingmy240sx]

but yeah dude. That is a full blown track car vs a street S15. If we put the equally tuned Yashio Factory S15 against it, it definitely wouldnt be a fair race =P

[Thriced2286]

its a N/A 2zz in the mr-s versus the turboed s15

[Slidingmy240sx]

i know...but look @ the difference in the preparation of both cars. the MR2 was COMPLETELY stripped. while the S15 was still in street trim

[OCTOMARVEL]

i detect overzealousness in your post. sure, the mr-s was race prepped, but alot of the time on the touge, that accounts for nothing. see the vid of the j's racing s2000 VS the ralliart works evo for confirmation.

[Slidingmy240sx]

Both are stripped out as the J's Racing car is a TIME ATTACK car and the Ralliart car is a RALLY CAR...lol

[monstermrs]

its still an even match....power to weight ratio is better for the s15 tho....it jusy cant coner quick....

[Slidingmy240sx]

an S-chassis can corner quickly. Its just the fact that you're puttin a street car up against a stripped out time attack car. yeah sure the S15 has more power, but in a mega technical course...the more stripped out and lighter car will make it easy for the driver.

[SpikeRazzor]

Either way the MRS is lighter, mid engined and more adapted for cornering than a Nissan S car. Although the S15 is one of my personal favorite cars, its just not in the same league as a MRS when it comes to handling.

[monstermrs]

VERY SMART COMMENT!

[HatageKakashi]

That is wakuwaku-san D1(2003) S15. He use it to drift... It have 400ps in it but the boost is reduce.

[Slidingmy240sx]

the S15 isnt the exact drift car. If you look in the interior, the car is Kei Office's street car...it's demo car.

[HatageKakashi]

Its true.. It is a demo car... However, it also being used in Drift event... now the car was taken care by auto produce BOSS.. Current driver :Yoichi Imamura...

[Slidingmy240sx]

like...they have another S15 that they campaigned. It's like Yashio's Street S15 Demo car...and the F15 Time Attack/drift car. But it is nice to see Imamura driving a more capable car than the Fairlady Z he was driving.

[HatageKakashi]

Oh, I forgot about that. I agee with you. That fairlady Z sure have a BIG ASS... yoichi cant make big angle with that car.

[Slidingmy240sx]

its all gravy =P. i personally have driven the sister 350Z. Compared to an S-chassis car, it feels more like an electronic ship rather than a mechanical fighter plane.

[monstermrs]

the mrs is only making 190hp...(not even 190whp)...the s15 making 320.......

[SpikeRazzor]

Thank you very much monstermrs =). What I would do for that MRS, or even a clone with just that wide body =(.

[charlielovesnikes]

what kind of rims are on that mr-s?

looks pretty sharp.

Drift king + TRD= unbeatable

[rjhall90]

@charlielovesnikes This MRS beat the Drift King, though.

[EquinoxGaming]

Lightweight all motor def. has an advantage on a course like this with a lot of corners. The S15 simply falls out of boost. In the second battle on the straight, you notice the S15 took off! MR-S def. caught up quickly though.

...Good battle.

[McSpeed17]

Awesome video! Too bad I can't go as fast with my own MR-S. It's great to see what potential it has though.

[fizzbitt]

Thats cos im presuming your MR-S aint had the 190 engine swap...

[sxlostv1]

this is the reason i have my car :)

[MRIlls]

I love all gens of MR2. That MR-S looked every bit as fast as it moved! NICE!

[vtec886]

Maybe this MRS can beat DC2 type R..haha

[x23800]

oops i'm sorry. it is S15 vs MR-S. my mistake, sorry.

[taketoki0621]

This is S15, not 14. Great video!

Im always a fan of MR-S!!