Well, this is pretty much a respectful nod to Harryhausen. Lucas made another nod in AOTC with the Genosian's being similar to the Selinites in First Men In The Moon - another of Harryhausen's movies.
I agree, the kali fight is better. I think stop motion should still be used when it comes to statues and robotic machines and use CGI just for live creatures. Now they use CGI on everything including sets, like all three Star Wars prequels, that's not only lazy, it's insulting. The Lord of the Rings trilogy got it right. If they couldn't build it, they made a miniture, not a computer graphic.
Neither creature makes full use of every arm. But...
With the digital dude, you had 4 sabres to keep track of, and you can keep going back and tweaking the animation, doing one sabre at a time, adding details.
With Kali, there were 6 blades, and Ray had to keep everything in his head, and get every detail right in one go - no video assist to playback, just surface gauges and shooting blind, and not seeing it until the film comes back. And it STILL looks good.
Yep, that's him. John Phillip Law was the lead, the delicious Caroline Munro was the love interest, and Tom Baker was the villain (they originally cast Christopher Lee for the part, but they were unable to get him)
I just recently saw this for rent in Blockbuster. I used to watch this movie ALLL the damn time when I was a youngon. Along with Top Gun. Its hard getting a truly new/unique idea in movies these days. At 21 Sinbad is a movie I still miss.
The fact that Lucas borrowed/ripped off the concept doesn't bother me that much. Star Wars and the Indiana Jones series borrows heavily from older stuff. It's just that the prequels were so overproduced and such a vanity trip for Lucas, that he forgot to include the audience in the fun (in my opinion, anyway).
... Dude, they used one lightsaber, they used double lightsabers, they used double ended lightsabers, what's left? 4 lightsabers. I'm pretty sure they did not steal the idea from Sinbad. And you don't know what your talkin about, Episode 3 is amazing.
Lets Face it Lucas was stealin ideas from other people back during the original triogy, I mean so many ideas were taken fron Akria Kurisawa films, not to mention the ideas he got from Frank Huberts novel Dune. But he got away with it cause the original triogy was good, the prequels were shitty so that means it looks more like a hack stealing from other people rather than a great talent borrowing from his inflences.
Agreed, there isn't a single choreography move that's at all similar, it's just protagonist versus multi-limbed enemy. The one in the Sinbad movie didn't even use all of their limbs.
Compare the scenes where the Princess and (Luke | Sinbad) swing across a void:
7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958), @ 80 minutes (approx.)
Star Wars IV (1977), (@ you know where)
stdenisg 11 months ago
@blackiephoenix Yes it is. This movie is how Tom got Dr. Who.
rathraven1313 1 year ago
ha ha ha very funny.
mikevern69 1 year ago
the first movie is so beautiful
But i like the second move too too much, Because it's a remembrance for me
it's first move i watched in cenima when i was 7 yrs old "The Golden Voyage Of Sinbad"
Thank ya for this short comparison, But i felt the first move is similar to second but with development and more effect
elfndy 1 year ago
I vote Grievous and Obi-Wan.
PadawanTano 2 years ago
I was waitin for Kali to start spinnin blades ^_^
Guess that woulda put Harryhausen over budget... still the man's an icon!
customcartoons 2 years ago 2
Well, this is pretty much a respectful nod to Harryhausen. Lucas made another nod in AOTC with the Genosian's being similar to the Selinites in First Men In The Moon - another of Harryhausen's movies.
SamusDrake 2 years ago
Grievous would kick ass that thing with 6 arms
wengil494 2 years ago
Lucas has said he was influence by ray harryhausen.I noticed the similarities as well.
eeddd08 2 years ago
I do not understand anything ... where is Sinbad?
kimratrockmetaleirof 2 years ago
All I can say is that RotS owns 'Sinbad'.
bzcoolness 2 years ago
Grievous' voice sounds like Triumph the dog.
11Jamie11 2 years ago
I think, that the fight between Kali and Sindbad was the inspiration for the fight Kenobi against Grievous too! Why not? It was a great scene!
Exodianecross1978 3 years ago 4
You know something else these two scenes have in common? They were both the best parts of their respective movies.
akiratubo 3 years ago
ROTS = Good?
Huh?
fjrsm 3 years ago
Nevermind... I misread it. ROTS and AOTC pretty much suck... TPM barely misses the crap factor
fjrsm 3 years ago
AOTC????
numb3r2wo 2 years ago
Attack Of The Clones
ChaosXUnleashed 2 years ago
I agree, the kali fight is better. I think stop motion should still be used when it comes to statues and robotic machines and use CGI just for live creatures. Now they use CGI on everything including sets, like all three Star Wars prequels, that's not only lazy, it's insulting. The Lord of the Rings trilogy got it right. If they couldn't build it, they made a miniture, not a computer graphic.
CHU011 3 years ago 2
RAY HARRYHAUSEN is the master! Willis O'Brien was his teacher so real Pedigree with Sinbad
Robkizzy 3 years ago 4
Neither creature makes full use of every arm. But...
With the digital dude, you had 4 sabres to keep track of, and you can keep going back and tweaking the animation, doing one sabre at a time, adding details.
With Kali, there were 6 blades, and Ray had to keep everything in his head, and get every detail right in one go - no video assist to playback, just surface gauges and shooting blind, and not seeing it until the film comes back. And it STILL looks good.
StopmoNick 3 years ago 3
Yep, that's him. John Phillip Law was the lead, the delicious Caroline Munro was the love interest, and Tom Baker was the villain (they originally cast Christopher Lee for the part, but they were unable to get him)
Tareltonlives 3 years ago
See the movie American Ninja 2. The arena fight has much similarity to the one in Episode 2. There is even a Clone Army of Ninjas in it.
tubewatcher77 3 years ago
I just recently saw this for rent in Blockbuster. I used to watch this movie ALLL the damn time when I was a youngon. Along with Top Gun. Its hard getting a truly new/unique idea in movies these days. At 21 Sinbad is a movie I still miss.
CaptainChinblade 3 years ago
Huh. That thing has a motion sensor on it. Wild.
The fact that Lucas borrowed/ripped off the concept doesn't bother me that much. Star Wars and the Indiana Jones series borrows heavily from older stuff. It's just that the prequels were so overproduced and such a vanity trip for Lucas, that he forgot to include the audience in the fun (in my opinion, anyway).
Good vid!
albee1000 3 years ago 2
... Dude, they used one lightsaber, they used double lightsabers, they used double ended lightsabers, what's left? 4 lightsabers. I'm pretty sure they did not steal the idea from Sinbad. And you don't know what your talkin about, Episode 3 is amazing.
nubfail 3 years ago
Lets Face it Lucas was stealin ideas from other people back during the original triogy, I mean so many ideas were taken fron Akria Kurisawa films, not to mention the ideas he got from Frank Huberts novel Dune. But he got away with it cause the original triogy was good, the prequels were shitty so that means it looks more like a hack stealing from other people rather than a great talent borrowing from his inflences.
almanacofsleep 3 years ago
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking when I saw Episode 3. The Golden Voyage fight was much better, though.
Tareltonlives 3 years ago
No matter what every says, to me is a good Video! Keep it Up
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MetalMaster19 3 years ago
The fighting itself isn't similar at all. The only unifying aspect is that in each the protagonist is engaging in a duel with a multi-limbed enemy.
videon8 3 years ago 2
The saber ignition scenes look kinda similar to me.
PeGeProd 3 years ago
Agreed, there isn't a single choreography move that's at all similar, it's just protagonist versus multi-limbed enemy. The one in the Sinbad movie didn't even use all of their limbs.
Boter46 3 years ago
Its not that similare
Overage2000 3 years ago