I don't understand why America is so religious, America was has a secular constitution and most of the founding fathers where either Atheists, Deists and I believe there was at least one pantheist. America was not supposed to be religious, but yet it is. On the other hand in the UK, our head of state is also the head of the church of England but a large amount of people are atheists and most of those who are Christian do not go to church.
@PervAccount What are you talking about? Of course you can prove gravity, when you drop something it falls due to a magnetic pull in the earth that pull is gravity, y do you think we don't float every where and stay on the ground? Do you have another explanation for that?
- You can't prove any theory, even the theory of gravity. This is because everything we know is only accepted until something more accurate comes along. Newton's theory of gravity was replaced by Einstein's theory of gravity because Einstein's was more accurate. Newton's is only used to teach children because it's easy.
"when you drop something it falls due to a magnetic pull in the earth that pull is gravity"
I was pretty much ok with this guy unitl the last 10 seconds. This was NEVER a Christian country, this was a country of FREEDOM OF RELIGION!!!!! Christianity just happened to be a part of that.
@TheMrgoku1985 I will continue where you left off: The entire fossil record, thousands of transitional forms (both living and deceased and extinct), the human appendix, oil, coal, microbiorganisms, medicine.......and the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on..........................
Sahelanthropus tchadensis, Ardipithecus ramidus, Australopithecus anamensis, Australopithecus afarensis, Kenyanthropus platyops, Australopithecus africanus, Australopithecus garhi, Australopithecus sediba, Australopithecus aethiopicus, Australopithecus robustus, Australopithecus boisei, Homo habilis, Homo georgicus, Homo erectus, Homo ergaster, Homo antecessor, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo neanderthalensis, Homo floresiensis, Homo sapiens
Popular evolutionary scientists Dawkins and Hawking refuse to debate with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at ICR, The Institure for Creation Research. They only debate non-scientist creationists.Read my Internet article: ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH. This article also explains the scientific impossibility of life coming into existence by chance or evolution.
@Mogley52 Would you debate someone who thought storks were responsible for baby delivery or that the earth is flat and is the center of the universe or that little elves make all the shoes in the world or that magical beans are a good mode for a space delivery ? Those people you mentioned are not scientists, they are potential patients. Secondly, there is NO debate. Evolution is a fact! your bible is nothing more then myths and fables by desert tribesmen who had NO understanding of nature.
- Dawkins and Hawking don't debate ANY creationists. Hawking doesn't really debate anyone because he's almost completely paralysed and needs to type everything he wants to say in advance. Dawkins doesn't do it because he thinks it's a waste of time.
"the scientific impossibility of life coming into existence by chance or evolution."
- It's about the same as a snowflake coming into existence by chance.
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their reproductive system and other vital organs hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.
Most Christians don't understand the scientific arguments supporting creationism. Please read my popular Internet articles: ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS, HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM, SECOND COMING OF CHRIST MISUNDERSTOOD, CONSERVATIVE THEOLOGIAN NO LONGER BELIEVES ETERNAL TORMENT (Explains why eternal punishment in the Bible does not mean eternal torment).
ok the american public is divided in the issue of creationism vs evolution.
what would happen if we teached creationism:
Creationist: god will keep his protective hand in this country.
Rationalist: if we accept creationism the interest towards science will decrease and the united states will no longer be a scientific leader in the world. instead you get a situation that is more like iran, where people are forced to believe in certain things and make no progress in science.
"I think God is responsible for this country existing"
ABSOLUTELY! Without the European belief in their superiority through Christianity over the North, South, and Meso-American natives, it would have been MUCH more difficult to justify the genocide and forced expatriation of the natives from their land. Belief in JESUS-GOD allowed Europeans to separate themselves from the natives, view the natives as inferior, and shift the paradigm from genocide to "converting the heathens at all costs."
but i do appreciate his attempt to give reason behind teaching creationism, and the fact that he accepts both creationism and evolution (though aside from a few missing specimens, we've pretty much proved the link between apes and man)
@Clatterpinch It doesn't matter how high a theory puts an idea, it still can not be proven and is not fact, in fact something as far-fetched as evolution (and the big-bang) is sao very miniscule than to creationism. I can't believe that so many people can believe in such madness.
@Truth75863 They're not far-fetched. I just explained to you that there is overwhelming evidence to support the claims for both evolution and the big bang. Can you offer any evidence to support your claims? The ones that state that "God simply did it"? The one claim that doesn't have any evidence to support it and is therefore only considered a hypothesis instead of a theory?
@Truth75863 Since most people I debate with don't understand what evolution is, I'm going to explain it to you for the sake of debating with people who understand what they're talking about.
Evolution is the process in which natural mutations occur (example: one missing eye or one extra toe). These traits are proven to now be part of that animal's genetic code, and they are proven to be possible to pass onto their offspring.
@Truth75863 If these traits are not detrimental to their ability to procreate and pass on their genetic code, then they will produce offspring and pass on their genetic code. If the mutation is advantageous (e.g. a different color coat of hair that better disguises it from predators) then it will most likely pass on its genetic code more often than members of its species without such a mutation, as its chance of survival will be higher.
@Truth75863 If there are enough advantageous (or simply non-detrimental) mutations in a species, eventually it can become a species so unlike the one it started as it will become an entire new one and be unable to breed with the species it originated as.
Evolution is not far fetched at all. It's a very simple and obvious process, unlike creationism.
@dchains Valid argument my friend! If you will can you please watch my 2nd video on the big bang, I think that you will find it rather interesting. -God Bless :)
@Truth75863 Do you realize that a theory is the highest respect a scientific idea can garner? Also, why would you pose a question about "purpose" if you're trying to prove something to be truth? Feelings are nearly negligible in a debate of facts.
Creationism doesn't even have enough evidence to weigh itself in as "theory". It has a lot of catching up to do if it wants to match evolution in the scientific world.
@dchains Fair enough you do still realize that evolution is still just a theory right? And back to my other question how could you be content with supposedly knowing that you are made up of some random genetic mutation billions of years ago with no purpose, just coincidence? -I look foward to hearing from you -God Bless
@Truth75863 I already explained to you what a scientific theory is and the fact that is evolution, it is your choice to do the research! :)
And why shouldn't i not be content?, your purpose in life is solely what you decide to make it out to be. There doesn't have to be a reason to be alive for me to live a good life, why do you need a reason to live good?
@Truth75863 Arrrrrgggggghhhhhh. A theory in science is different than the everyday meaning of it. A scientific idea needs alot of evidence, and be able to make arrange of predictions before it can be considered a theory.
@ajcool240 I see where your coming from, but never the less it is still not concrete fact no matter how much evidence is found it's still not made into a scientific law, and if a theory is law then it should be fact, -Thanks and God Bless
@Truth75863 that just helped prove me right. issac newton came up with the theory of gravitation. now i invite you to google the gravitational theory (and isaac newton for that matter).
- A theory is an explaination of a process. A law is a generalized observation of a phenomenon. A fact is a verifiable observation. They are not interchangable terms. Theories are made of facts and laws and explain facts and laws.
For example:
Fact - orbital objects are moving.
Law - The force on an orbital object is the square of the distances from the centers.
Theory - predict the exact location of the moon in 72 hours.
@dchains You post a valid argument and I respect your opinion however Evolution would be placed as a theory because your evidence is no enough to pose it into fact. If Evolution was fact then scientists would have made the conclusion that it is law.
@Truth75863 While we ourselves have not witnessed evolution take place (mainly because it takes million of years) i guarantee you there is enough evidence that shows it has taken place.
@dchains would be a law. Gravity is a law, motion is a law because with unquestionable doubt you can prove this, you can not prove evolution. And besides why would you be content with supposedly knowing your existence was a mistake due to genetic mutations billions of years ago? You and everyone else are here for a purpose not by a mistake. -God Bless :)
@Truth75863 I wouldn't say it was a mistake, this planet is currently the only planet that we know of that is able to sustain life and we are just one of the billions of species that evolved from a simpler state, we are not here for a purpose, life is what you want to make it, there is no divine plan. Why does there need to be a purpose in life?.
Life is more precious knowing that there is no after life!.:)
@dchains Thank you for responding to my comment Iam truly grateful. To begin I'd like to start on the dictionary defintion of a theory, my source is the new webster's dictionary just in case you wanted to know, ah here I see it:
Theory -noun
1. an organized body of ideas as to the truth of something
2. a general body of assumptions and principles
3. a conjecture
You see a theory is backed up of many ideas and can not necessarily be proven by fact, if it was proven by fact evolution
@Truth75863 A common distinction made in science is between theories and hypotheses, with the former being considered as satisfactorily tested or proven and the latter used to denote conjectures or proposed descriptions or models which have not yet been tested or proven to the same standard. Evolution meets the criteria for being considered a theory, which indicates we have evidence, just go to your local museum and check out for instance Homo Erectus, such beauty in evolution!
superior religion. If you are still not convinced by the religious aspect I will be glad to talk to you about the biological aspect as soon as you respond to my comment.
@TheYipedo True that it does take evidence to support facts, however evloution still remains as a theory, and the definition of a theory a general body of assumptions and principles, so in other words it's an educated guess to complex questions in life. My faith gaurantees that I was put here for a reason not coincidence. Furthermore all religions have some substance of truth and I'm not playing them down, I believe that Christianity gives a clear cut logical definition of life, not that its a
@Truth75863 You seem to not understand what a theory is, a theory is not a educated guess, it is a well researched and well documented fact and backed up by scientific consensus, we have overwhelming evidence of evolution. And keep in mind we didn't evolve from monkeys, we have common ancestry with some of them. Faith isn't facts, faith is gullibility, faith is the excuse people give when they don't have evidence.
I hope you find the real truth at some point in your life,cause there is no God.
@dchains How could you be so certain that there is no God? Can you offer some points to back up proof that he/it does not exist? What are the defining terms for God/a god?
I hope you stop saying things that you simply cannot prove one way or another while trying to have a genuine debate because that is stupid.
@Clatterpinch I don't believe in absolute certainty, do i know there is no God/s?, of course not. But why believe something that has no evidence? Faith isn't fact, faith is the excuse people give then they don't have evidence. If someone tells me they have faith that flying unicorns exist, then i won't believe them until i have substantial proof, that's the nature of a rational mind, disbelieve until proven otherwise.
There's nothing for me to prove, it's the believers that need the proof.
@Clatterpinch Yes, i do not at all believe in a God, meaning i can say that there is no God. Since there is no evidentiary poof to prove a God exists i can say with confidence there is no God from that perspective, but i do believe anything is possible within the confines of researched facts. If someone told me flying unicorns created the universe, i won't believe them because there is no evidence, but do i rule that out?, of course not.
The Bible, @Jason29n is not just a book. It was written by real people, who have actually encountered every situation in it. God is far beyond imaginary just look around you. Natural disasters showing His strength, Beauties such as waterfalls showing His beauty, different animals and people all around the world to show His diverese love for, all. It take more faith to belive we came from randomness in time and space and evolved from monkeys than to believe we came from a God in 7 days. Silly
@Truth75863 It takes evidence to accept the FACT that we evolved from earlier forms of life, not faith, good sir. You have been duped (and indoctrinated) into thinking that God exists and that yours, and not any other religion, is THE right religion. Oh the nerves.
I remember when i used to believe in this nonsense. And i wonder to myself, how could I ever have been so naive, stupid, and willing. Im so glad for the internet cause all the info people need is right there in their bedroom. Just gotta go look for it. Then you will realize that talking snakes, magical gardens, and people living inside whales bodies dont exist and its a fairy tale.
Wake up people. Your god is imaginary and you have been duped by a book!!
You are an absolute cunt!!!! (come visit me in UK, Dr Morgan) An absolute disgrace to any science you teach. You have to understand all cultures and respect them, however, all faith is based on hope. I am no anthropologist but it is obvious that the "anthropic principle" is never considered as an application to all. I believe this and also, ironically,that ignorance is also bliss. Ultimately the people who REALLY understand their world know that eventually...NO GOD!!! lights go out...nothing!!
O.K. so teach native American creation myths, Chinese creation myths, African creation myths, Hindu creation myths etc. etc. etc. Why only the Judeo Christian ? take all of them. What ? they're not real ? Do you think a talking snake exist in zoology ?
When you will understand that there is only one God who is the creator and sustainer of all mankind and then you will try to see the world with this rational thought and your own free will , you will have unlimited joy of reaching the truth !
Guidance is the biggest favour we humans can have , the ultimate pleasure !
@smajmal62 Why would a loving god taunt you with a glorious afterlife but if you don't do exactly as he says you get sent to a fire pit to burn for eternity?
Evil and Good are two perspectives that cannot be decided by human beings.
If afterlife which is very long, is considered, many good things become evil as they distract us from preparation for hereafter while many evil things become good as they remind us of hereafter and make us exert for that.
The poverty is bad but the Prophet Muhammad pbuh prayed not to be rich as he could have patience with his poverty.
@smajmal62 The Prophet Muhammad was a bloodthirsty warlord. He brainwashed people into Islam, which is basically Judaism and Christianity combined so they would fight for him for free.
There was no connection of islam with Christianity and Judaism for many years after it was started to be preached.
For 13 long yesrs, more than 50% of the time of Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad, Muslims were not allowed even to retaliate the oppressive insults and torturings imposed upon them by their fellow non-Muslims.
@HoLOLcaust Please don't assume that GOD is the author of evil, secondly even if He was the author of evil who are you to judge the creator? He is free to do whatever He wants to just a painter is of His painter. "But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this? Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?"- Romans 9:21
@HoLOLcaust First of all, you assume He created everything, I would like evidence for the claim. You're father has laws above him and higher powers over him, but GOD does not, there is no higher god, law or higher power to control Him. What He designs, He does what He wants to do with. He is YEHWAH, there is no other god besides Him, He brings both death and Life, inflicts wounds and heals them. A similar statement is found by GOD in Deuteronomy 23:39.
@Domodeath For the sake of the argument just assume that God doesn't exist, and a crazy scientist creates a living organism from scratch. Does he then have the right to do whatever he wants to the creature?
@HoLOLcaust No, because he still would have laws and higher powers over him. But if he didn't, sure why not, in a deluded world without a GOD there would be no real morality, no right or wrong. More so people wouldn't have a conscience to stop him, so I can't type that it would be wrong because it doesn't really exist in this imagernary world... however if there is a deistic GOD (which there isn't) then I suppose it would be fine, if the creation belonged to him.
@Domodeath Like most other Christians, you seem to have a twisted sense of morality. Simply because you created something does not mean you get to do whatever you want. If your god was real (Which he isn't) then he is a tyrant. I'm done talking to you because I realize that you are somebody who has willingly accepted a fundamentalist dogma. Have fun being deluded.
@HoLOLcaust First of, who made you the decider of morality? Secondly, who are you to decide moral law? You know its interesting that you claim not to believe in GOD yet hate Him, you make fun of Him, hate Christians and are un-willing to think logically, in fact you deluded yourself with dogmatic thinking, not looking at prophecy or intelligent design as a possibility . More so regardless of what you say, He says this: I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.-Isaiah 46:10
@Domodeath Do you know him personally? That's a rather harsh proclamation if you don't actually know him. He never claimed to hate God, or hate Christians. HE never actually claimed anything, he quoted a very prominent Epicurean philosopher, that's it.
@AgowTisro Okay, well he implied it by calling GOD a tyrant, he also typed "pretty sadistic of him." Him being GOD. And implied his hatred for Christians by typing "Like most Christians, you seem to have a twisted view of morality" also he typed "I realize you are somebody who has willingly accepted a fundamentalist dogma. Have fun being deluded." If he did quote a philosopher why didn't he use quotes ("") and give the philosopher credit for his words?
@Domodeath Oh wow, I stumbled into a much larger argument than I had thought. I just saw the highest rated comment was his quotation of of Epicurus and thought you were bashing him for that. I apologize then, I didn't realize there was so much more to your conversation with him lol.
@Domodeath "without a GOD there would be no real morality, no right or wrong."
I would be interested in exploring your discussion/debate where HoLOLcaust left off. What you wrote above is rather interesting to me. Since you disagree with HoLOLcaust on morality, then define morality or offer examples of morally responsible behavior. What is morally acceptable behavior. Once terms are defined, we can easily continue to move this conversation forward.
@FrigidAxe Agnostic is not a separate belief system like so many people think. It defines your beliefs, agnostic atheists don't know if there is a god but they aren't excluding the possibility. Gnostic atheists know there isn't a god and reject it completely. The same goes for theists.
One might hope the Russians will learn from their history, even if nobody else does. The study of genetics was banned by the horrible Soviet atheists because it so clearly demonstrates evolution couldn't take place as claimed.
Then again, I can't say what Russians are taught regarding their own history...
No one is "pretending" that there's no possibility of creation. Well... perhaps there are a few, but scientists don't "pretend" there is no god, and then come up with their conclusions. I still don't see why intelligent people need to confuse evolution and atheism... but then again.. I'm not too convinced as to the intelligence level of this nation's people.
If you are a theist, and are reading this, please understand that science teachers, around the globe, are not too thrilled with the lies told to our youth regarding creation stories. Please try to see it from our vantage point. When a student enters ANY science classroom, they are taught the Scientific method. From there, we cover each discipline(Biology, Geology, Chemistry etc). All science curricula has been subjected to this method and substantiated by mountains of peer-reviewed evidence.
@saxmanchiro "All science curricula has been subjected to this method and substantiated by mountains of peer-reviewed evidence. "
Total garbage propaganda. Evolanders are still fighting to keep Häckel's frauds in the textbooks. "Peer review"? Those drawings were always known to be phony, and his stories were even debunked by T.H. Huxley, his own friend.
How many years AFTER they were known to be totally bogus were Nebraska Man and Piltdown Man still taught?
they piltdown and nebraska man are still mentioned as a thing to show how far people go to get some attencion. but no book will tell you that those are true facts.
they mention piltdown and nebraska man as a reference to show, how far people would go to get some attencion. but no book will tell you that those are true facts.
Wow, RussiaToday has one hell of a strange demography. Black magic, UFO's, the New World Order, Satanism, Evolution is evil? You people are fucking nuts!
A secret war is in process, created by Satanic forces for global power, and the domination and subjugation of the peoples of the world. They use black magic to advance their goals. They are in control of and manipulate governments of major influence in the west, and force through the enactment of laws to further their evil agenda, which are against the interests of the people. They control the media, and manipulate what you read, what you watch and hear.
@jerico641 u so ignorant for that...i cant believe you wasted time tring to come up with that weak rib. this man has a valid point and u trynna turn it into a joke man come on this is a religious group and you cussin like that...no respect at all
C'mon, now, just try a little harder...I know that's English you're writing but I can't quite understand it; slow down and try one more time; attaboy!
"He's gonna remove the hand of protection from us"
WHAT hand of protection? where was he when we suffered so many things like the Great Depression and 9/11? Where was the "hand of protection" then? Idiot.
"i couldnt prove evolution" i couldnt prove creation"
that is a good way to say it.
"half of the people there believe every single word of the bible"
Deuteronomy 22:28-39----If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
This 'teacher' needs to have his license revoked yesterday. As a science teacher, I am embarassed to call this preacher a colleague. His statement about not being able to support Evolution is telltale. He is an imbecile and needs to leave the public education system and stay in his church where his ignorance is welcome. His sheep will be happy but his students are getting a raw deal, especially if they go on to college and discover he lied to them. Parents should be outraged by this fraud.
@saxmanchiro AGREED! I've even come across people with PhD's in Physics and Chemistry, and they say that evolution is "just a theory." Now, from a teacher preacher, I can understand their ignorance. But from someone who recieved a PhD in Physics at Harvard University (not naming names here, but I assure you...he exists!) and claims that evolution can't happen because it violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics, I am speechless!
I teach in a public school in the southern USA and share my professional space with extreme fundies, even in our science dept. It goes to show you how strong the brainwashing can be. I am very careful not to show my nonbelief cards in the classroom and hallways lest my administrators get wind of it. It would be the end of my job and probably have to move to a more sane area, like Scandinavia! Several of our staff are either part-time preachers or ex-preachers. It's crazy but true.
@saxmanchiro u believe that evolution crap...whoever does is a fool right along with you...(no offense) maybe because its my religion but i think that evolution stuff is a bunch a bs...and I AM ON THIS MANS SIDE...he tells the truth whether hes a teacher or not...
@MrJustinwillc It's very sad that you take this stance. For someone to come on a public forum and say this, is upsetting to me as a science teacher. My job is much more difficult when folks like you try to push your ancient mythology on our kids.
If you have some evidence to refute this very strong Theory, then please feel free to present it to the scientific community. Not only is there a large prize available to you(Nobel prize) but also you would be an instant star in science.
@saxmanchiro This isn't an argument so don't make it one. You also have a valid point. But I really hate how scientist always trying to prove something. In that case what caused the big bang to occur anyways. I mean some force had to be there. WHY DON'T YOU PROVE THAT. I'm not a time traveler so I can't prove nothing. Everything in life can't be proved. Even the simplist things in life are mysteries to some.
"But I really hate how scientist(sic) always trying to prove something."
Then I guess you 'hate' using computers, cell phones, regular phones, TV, electricity, drinking water, fossil fuels, airplanes, medicines, surgery, or anything else you take for granted to work and keep you safe every second of the day. Please understand this glaring piece of hypocrisy you are pushing.
Just because we don't have an answer yet for some things, we don't stop discovery and say goddidit.
'Scientist'- an investigator that employs the scientific method
'Technology'- the application of science, especially to industrial or commercial objectives or the scientific method and materials used to achieve a commercial or industrial objective(ex: plane, automobile, plane, cell phone, fossil fuels, electricity, tap water)
@MrJustinwillc You said you hate it when scientists go and try to prove something. I called you out on that statement and you will not try to substantiate your claim. As a scientist, I need to stand up to your insult. As to an earlier line within the same post, you say everything in life can't be proved. Have you not read a single Biology text? We understand life and it's underpinnings, how we have our current biodiversity, and soon finding the start of life or Abiogenesis. Nope, no god there.
@saxmanchiro can u explain and prove how we were here...or even and explain AND prove how the earth was exactly formed by some rock explosion or whatever nonsense...??? everything can't be explained... (BTW sorry bout the insult but you just made me mad w/ the impaired thing...i dont take kindly being called out my name)...
@MrJustinwillc In less than 500 words, I cannot do your question justice. But you can find the answers in ANY Biology textbook that has not been altered by some religious thinktank. We fully understand how 'we'(I assume you mean Homo sapiens) got here. Even without the incredible DNA molecule info(pre-1953) we understood this. For the last 60 yrs, we have gathered much knowledge of ancestry for so many organisms, including Plants, Protists, Fungi, Animals, and even the Prokaryotes.
@MrJustinwillc says - I really hate how science always trying to prove something
REPLY LOL what a dumbass statement.
Well you have to "prove something" in order to get anyone other than dumbasses to believe your magic book. So prove the talking snake - -virgin birth -- jumping out of the grave - samson's magic hair - moses and his magic rod - water into wine -- a dome covering the earth -- the tower of babel theory of language - great flood/murder -
wish this was a good idea. i think he would basically be trying to teach something that most dont wanna learn. pupils must have a voluntary interest i say leave it for the churches and bible studies.
For the great majority that's true. However it is possible to be technically intelligent and believe in ridiculous things. Case and point the 911 hijackers where highly educated. Engineers and so on. The guy that drove his car with bomb at heathrow airport few years back was a suicide bomber and a neurosurgeon in Britain. For all the smarts they have no wisdom. I guess religion becomes a kind of high like they are addicted to heroin. The will don anything for it. Even irrational acts.
@gregrutz The place for indoctrination is the classroom. If you only get your information from those who indoctrinate you, you are not honest with yourself. People are paid to support what is politically "in vogue" at any time. Indoctrination into religious bullshit, like magical mystical causes of evolution. There is no evolution on this planet. There is only genetics and de-evolution from fit to less fit. complex to less complex. It is in all the DNA. Neutral Evolution Forum
I don't understand why America is so religious, America was has a secular constitution and most of the founding fathers where either Atheists, Deists and I believe there was at least one pantheist. America was not supposed to be religious, but yet it is. On the other hand in the UK, our head of state is also the head of the church of England but a large amount of people are atheists and most of those who are Christian do not go to church.
1996KTDW 1 month ago 2
@PervAccount What are you talking about? Of course you can prove gravity, when you drop something it falls due to a magnetic pull in the earth that pull is gravity, y do you think we don't float every where and stay on the ground? Do you have another explanation for that?
Truth75863 3 months ago
@Truth75863
"Of course you can prove gravity"
- You can't prove any theory, even the theory of gravity. This is because everything we know is only accepted until something more accurate comes along. Newton's theory of gravity was replaced by Einstein's theory of gravity because Einstein's was more accurate. Newton's is only used to teach children because it's easy.
"when you drop something it falls due to a magnetic pull in the earth that pull is gravity"
- Gravity is not magnetic.
Atriviality 1 month ago
I was pretty much ok with this guy unitl the last 10 seconds. This was NEVER a Christian country, this was a country of FREEDOM OF RELIGION!!!!! Christianity just happened to be a part of that.
metaldave08096 4 months ago
Human chromosome 2
Matching retroviruses between apes and humans. resdual limbs a tale bone at base of the spine. recessive genes.
Junk DNA
Single strain DNA.
TheMrgoku1985 5 months ago
@TheMrgoku1985 I will continue where you left off: The entire fossil record, thousands of transitional forms (both living and deceased and extinct), the human appendix, oil, coal, microbiorganisms, medicine.......and the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on..........................
pillowbugg 4 months ago
Sahelanthropus tchadensis, Ardipithecus ramidus, Australopithecus anamensis, Australopithecus afarensis, Kenyanthropus platyops, Australopithecus africanus, Australopithecus garhi, Australopithecus sediba, Australopithecus aethiopicus, Australopithecus robustus, Australopithecus boisei, Homo habilis, Homo georgicus, Homo erectus, Homo ergaster, Homo antecessor, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo neanderthalensis, Homo floresiensis, Homo sapiens
TheMrgoku1985 5 months ago
*facepalm*
There is proof in favor of evolution.
TheMrgoku1985 5 months ago
Popular evolutionary scientists Dawkins and Hawking refuse to debate with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at ICR, The Institure for Creation Research. They only debate non-scientist creationists.Read my Internet article: ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH. This article also explains the scientific impossibility of life coming into existence by chance or evolution.
Mogley52 5 months ago
@Mogley52
Retard
TheMrgoku1985 5 months ago
@Mogley52 Would you debate someone who thought storks were responsible for baby delivery or that the earth is flat and is the center of the universe or that little elves make all the shoes in the world or that magical beans are a good mode for a space delivery ? Those people you mentioned are not scientists, they are potential patients. Secondly, there is NO debate. Evolution is a fact! your bible is nothing more then myths and fables by desert tribesmen who had NO understanding of nature.
pillowbugg 4 months ago
@Mogley52
"They only debate non-scientist creationists"
- Dawkins and Hawking don't debate ANY creationists. Hawking doesn't really debate anyone because he's almost completely paralysed and needs to type everything he wants to say in advance. Dawkins doesn't do it because he thinks it's a waste of time.
"the scientific impossibility of life coming into existence by chance or evolution."
- It's about the same as a snowflake coming into existence by chance.
Atriviality 1 month ago
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their reproductive system and other vital organs hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.
Mogley52 5 months ago
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Most Christians don't understand the scientific arguments supporting creationism. Please read my popular Internet articles: ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS, HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM, SECOND COMING OF CHRIST MISUNDERSTOOD, CONSERVATIVE THEOLOGIAN NO LONGER BELIEVES ETERNAL TORMENT (Explains why eternal punishment in the Bible does not mean eternal torment).
Mogley52 5 months ago
Okay, try to teach creationism. With what evidence?
HambleThornberry 5 months ago
ok the american public is divided in the issue of creationism vs evolution.
what would happen if we teached creationism:
Creationist: god will keep his protective hand in this country.
Rationalist: if we accept creationism the interest towards science will decrease and the united states will no longer be a scientific leader in the world. instead you get a situation that is more like iran, where people are forced to believe in certain things and make no progress in science.
xilixang999 6 months ago
well then if you want to teach one religion, teach all and let the kid decide.
YourSoulEmbarks 6 months ago
MAKE THIS SUBHUMAN DRINK A LETHAL DOSE OF BARBITURATES BEFORE IT HURTS A HUMAN
699backstab 6 months ago
"I think God is responsible for this country existing"
ABSOLUTELY! Without the European belief in their superiority through Christianity over the North, South, and Meso-American natives, it would have been MUCH more difficult to justify the genocide and forced expatriation of the natives from their land. Belief in JESUS-GOD allowed Europeans to separate themselves from the natives, view the natives as inferior, and shift the paradigm from genocide to "converting the heathens at all costs."
donfishmaster 6 months ago
@fatlardass2000 If I message you a website page link will you please read it?
Domodeath 6 months ago
im not a creationists,
but i do appreciate his attempt to give reason behind teaching creationism, and the fact that he accepts both creationism and evolution (though aside from a few missing specimens, we've pretty much proved the link between apes and man)
namekman01 7 months ago
How can you believe in every single word of a book that mentions unicorns?
Babyshaking 8 months ago
America never was or ever will be considered a christian nation.
Requiemxtoxinnocence 8 months ago
"Studies show that the more educated a person is, the less likely they are to believe in Creationism [and other mindless dogma]"
robjenkin 8 months ago
@Clatterpinch It doesn't matter how high a theory puts an idea, it still can not be proven and is not fact, in fact something as far-fetched as evolution (and the big-bang) is sao very miniscule than to creationism. I can't believe that so many people can believe in such madness.
Truth75863 8 months ago
@Truth75863 GODIDIT
xXx666LOL666xXx 8 months ago
@Truth75863 They're not far-fetched. I just explained to you that there is overwhelming evidence to support the claims for both evolution and the big bang. Can you offer any evidence to support your claims? The ones that state that "God simply did it"? The one claim that doesn't have any evidence to support it and is therefore only considered a hypothesis instead of a theory?
That's what creationism is. A hypothesis.
Clatterpinch 8 months ago
@Truth75863 Since most people I debate with don't understand what evolution is, I'm going to explain it to you for the sake of debating with people who understand what they're talking about.
Evolution is the process in which natural mutations occur (example: one missing eye or one extra toe). These traits are proven to now be part of that animal's genetic code, and they are proven to be possible to pass onto their offspring.
Clatterpinch 8 months ago
@Truth75863 If these traits are not detrimental to their ability to procreate and pass on their genetic code, then they will produce offspring and pass on their genetic code. If the mutation is advantageous (e.g. a different color coat of hair that better disguises it from predators) then it will most likely pass on its genetic code more often than members of its species without such a mutation, as its chance of survival will be higher.
Clatterpinch 8 months ago
@Truth75863 If there are enough advantageous (or simply non-detrimental) mutations in a species, eventually it can become a species so unlike the one it started as it will become an entire new one and be unable to breed with the species it originated as.
Evolution is not far fetched at all. It's a very simple and obvious process, unlike creationism.
Clatterpinch 8 months ago 2
@Clatterpinch theres no hope convincing her. ive tried
redice1024 8 months ago
@redice1024 I figured that when I was notified that she had blocked me from her channel.
Clatterpinch 8 months ago
@dchains Valid argument my friend! If you will can you please watch my 2nd video on the big bang, I think that you will find it rather interesting. -God Bless :)
Truth75863 9 months ago
@Truth75863 Do you realize that a theory is the highest respect a scientific idea can garner? Also, why would you pose a question about "purpose" if you're trying to prove something to be truth? Feelings are nearly negligible in a debate of facts.
Creationism doesn't even have enough evidence to weigh itself in as "theory". It has a lot of catching up to do if it wants to match evolution in the scientific world.
Clatterpinch 8 months ago
@dchains Fair enough you do still realize that evolution is still just a theory right? And back to my other question how could you be content with supposedly knowing that you are made up of some random genetic mutation billions of years ago with no purpose, just coincidence? -I look foward to hearing from you -God Bless
Truth75863 9 months ago
@Truth75863 I already explained to you what a scientific theory is and the fact that is evolution, it is your choice to do the research! :)
And why shouldn't i not be content?, your purpose in life is solely what you decide to make it out to be. There doesn't have to be a reason to be alive for me to live a good life, why do you need a reason to live good?
dchains 9 months ago
@Truth75863 Arrrrrgggggghhhhhh. A theory in science is different than the everyday meaning of it. A scientific idea needs alot of evidence, and be able to make arrange of predictions before it can be considered a theory.
ajcool240 4 months ago
@ajcool240 I see where your coming from, but never the less it is still not concrete fact no matter how much evidence is found it's still not made into a scientific law, and if a theory is law then it should be fact, -Thanks and God Bless
Truth75863 4 months ago
@Truth75863 Have you heard of the theory of gravity.
PervAccount 3 months ago
@PervAccount No gravity is a law, when you drop something gravity lets it fall to the ground, it's a magnetic pull, you can prove laws not theories.
Truth75863 3 months ago
@Truth75863 according to the scientific community, gravity is "only" a theory.
PervAccount 3 months ago
@PervAccount Actually according to the scientific comminity it is a law since it can be tested and proved, google Isaac Newton.
Truth75863 3 months ago
@Truth75863 that just helped prove me right. issac newton came up with the theory of gravitation. now i invite you to google the gravitational theory (and isaac newton for that matter).
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PervAccount 3 months ago
@Truth75863 Gravity is both a theory and a law.
atheistram 3 weeks ago
@Truth75863
"if a theory is law then it should be fact"
- A theory is an explaination of a process. A law is a generalized observation of a phenomenon. A fact is a verifiable observation. They are not interchangable terms. Theories are made of facts and laws and explain facts and laws.
For example:
Fact - orbital objects are moving.
Law - The force on an orbital object is the square of the distances from the centers.
Theory - predict the exact location of the moon in 72 hours.
Atriviality 1 month ago
@dchains You post a valid argument and I respect your opinion however Evolution would be placed as a theory because your evidence is no enough to pose it into fact. If Evolution was fact then scientists would have made the conclusion that it is law.
-God Bless :)
Truth75863 9 months ago
@Truth75863 While we ourselves have not witnessed evolution take place (mainly because it takes million of years) i guarantee you there is enough evidence that shows it has taken place.
But believe what you will.;)
dchains 9 months ago
@dchains would be a law. Gravity is a law, motion is a law because with unquestionable doubt you can prove this, you can not prove evolution. And besides why would you be content with supposedly knowing your existence was a mistake due to genetic mutations billions of years ago? You and everyone else are here for a purpose not by a mistake. -God Bless :)
Truth75863 9 months ago
@Truth75863 I wouldn't say it was a mistake, this planet is currently the only planet that we know of that is able to sustain life and we are just one of the billions of species that evolved from a simpler state, we are not here for a purpose, life is what you want to make it, there is no divine plan. Why does there need to be a purpose in life?.
Life is more precious knowing that there is no after life!.:)
dchains 9 months ago
@dchains Thank you for responding to my comment Iam truly grateful. To begin I'd like to start on the dictionary defintion of a theory, my source is the new webster's dictionary just in case you wanted to know, ah here I see it:
Theory -noun
1. an organized body of ideas as to the truth of something
2. a general body of assumptions and principles
3. a conjecture
You see a theory is backed up of many ideas and can not necessarily be proven by fact, if it was proven by fact evolution
Truth75863 9 months ago
@Truth75863 A common distinction made in science is between theories and hypotheses, with the former being considered as satisfactorily tested or proven and the latter used to denote conjectures or proposed descriptions or models which have not yet been tested or proven to the same standard. Evolution meets the criteria for being considered a theory, which indicates we have evidence, just go to your local museum and check out for instance Homo Erectus, such beauty in evolution!
dchains 9 months ago
superior religion. If you are still not convinced by the religious aspect I will be glad to talk to you about the biological aspect as soon as you respond to my comment.
-God Bless :)
Truth75863 9 months ago
@TheYipedo True that it does take evidence to support facts, however evloution still remains as a theory, and the definition of a theory a general body of assumptions and principles, so in other words it's an educated guess to complex questions in life. My faith gaurantees that I was put here for a reason not coincidence. Furthermore all religions have some substance of truth and I'm not playing them down, I believe that Christianity gives a clear cut logical definition of life, not that its a
Truth75863 9 months ago
@Truth75863 You seem to not understand what a theory is, a theory is not a educated guess, it is a well researched and well documented fact and backed up by scientific consensus, we have overwhelming evidence of evolution. And keep in mind we didn't evolve from monkeys, we have common ancestry with some of them. Faith isn't facts, faith is gullibility, faith is the excuse people give when they don't have evidence.
I hope you find the real truth at some point in your life,cause there is no God.
dchains 9 months ago
@dchains How could you be so certain that there is no God? Can you offer some points to back up proof that he/it does not exist? What are the defining terms for God/a god?
I hope you stop saying things that you simply cannot prove one way or another while trying to have a genuine debate because that is stupid.
Clatterpinch 8 months ago
@Clatterpinch I don't believe in absolute certainty, do i know there is no God/s?, of course not. But why believe something that has no evidence? Faith isn't fact, faith is the excuse people give then they don't have evidence. If someone tells me they have faith that flying unicorns exist, then i won't believe them until i have substantial proof, that's the nature of a rational mind, disbelieve until proven otherwise.
There's nothing for me to prove, it's the believers that need the proof.
dchains 8 months ago
@dchains This is true. However, you stated with absolute certainty. You didn't say, "There probably is no God." You said, "There is no God."
Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
Clatterpinch 8 months ago
@Clatterpinch Yes, i do not at all believe in a God, meaning i can say that there is no God. Since there is no evidentiary poof to prove a God exists i can say with confidence there is no God from that perspective, but i do believe anything is possible within the confines of researched facts. If someone told me flying unicorns created the universe, i won't believe them because there is no evidence, but do i rule that out?, of course not.
But facts and evidence come first.
dchains 8 months ago
Jason you have been duped into thinking that your existence is just purely coincidental. -God Bless :)
Truth75863 9 months ago
The Bible, @Jason29n is not just a book. It was written by real people, who have actually encountered every situation in it. God is far beyond imaginary just look around you. Natural disasters showing His strength, Beauties such as waterfalls showing His beauty, different animals and people all around the world to show His diverese love for, all. It take more faith to belive we came from randomness in time and space and evolved from monkeys than to believe we came from a God in 7 days. Silly
Truth75863 9 months ago
@Truth75863 It takes evidence to accept the FACT that we evolved from earlier forms of life, not faith, good sir. You have been duped (and indoctrinated) into thinking that God exists and that yours, and not any other religion, is THE right religion. Oh the nerves.
TheYipedo 9 months ago
I remember when i used to believe in this nonsense. And i wonder to myself, how could I ever have been so naive, stupid, and willing. Im so glad for the internet cause all the info people need is right there in their bedroom. Just gotta go look for it. Then you will realize that talking snakes, magical gardens, and people living inside whales bodies dont exist and its a fairy tale.
Wake up people. Your god is imaginary and you have been duped by a book!!
Jason29n 9 months ago
It is really scary to know that in the modern US people are still trying to get the bible and god in the classroom.
profsat5 9 months ago
@burnyourcrutch Good people always do.
mrtadreamer 9 months ago
Atheist teachers should be banned from every school in America.
MrLalaman1 9 months ago
@MrLalaman1 why?
spotlightman1234 9 months ago
You are an absolute cunt!!!! (come visit me in UK, Dr Morgan) An absolute disgrace to any science you teach. You have to understand all cultures and respect them, however, all faith is based on hope. I am no anthropologist but it is obvious that the "anthropic principle" is never considered as an application to all. I believe this and also, ironically,that ignorance is also bliss. Ultimately the people who REALLY understand their world know that eventually...NO GOD!!! lights go out...nothing!!
nickospurple0981 9 months ago
he is not a scientist because he doesn't use the scientific method.
sexassin 10 months ago
O.K. so teach native American creation myths, Chinese creation myths, African creation myths, Hindu creation myths etc. etc. etc. Why only the Judeo Christian ? take all of them. What ? they're not real ? Do you think a talking snake exist in zoology ?
gorrillamosh 10 months ago 12
Us elite are atheists.
T0X0PHILUS 10 months ago
@T0X0PHILUS really? check your facts!
eleminatus 9 months ago
@eleminatus Checked. I am right. The elite in science and medicine are atheists.
T0X0PHILUS 9 months ago
@T0X0PHILUS hmm.. elite implies superiority over opposing side, religious folks. OK, i dont mind!
eleminatus 9 months ago
A few quotes taken from GoodScienceForYou's forum, try not to laugh -
-Diamond are no longer carbon, they are diamonds.
-Photosynthesis is a carbon digesting process.
-The cause of sickle cell anemia is unknown, dumb ass.
-Carbon is the only thing that makes us "carbon" based creatures
-There is no answer for the diversity of life. It just is.
-There is no way to validate any fossils without DNA.
-There are only two species of bacteria.
Anyone think they can learn anything from this clown?
KrokrX 11 months ago
I ***WISH*** America was a post-Christian nation.
lormendi 11 months ago
america was an indian country, u know, its not christian at all, and it prob would still survive till this day if its still an indian country
gamer7916 11 months ago
Ignorance like religion, is a virus.
nolobede 11 months ago
@nolobede
/watch?v=0E0_rw52PUc
Humanity and its sufferings due to Darwinism
Atheism is a virus that makes humanity suffer
smajmal62 11 months ago
@smajmal62
Try studying history, religion = war. No brainer, the numbers are there throughout history.
Deny it all you want.
nolobede 11 months ago
@nolobede War and massacre are two different things.
One is from both the sides and another is unilateral killings of innocents .
That which Atheism did.
Watch my video
/watch?v=0E0_rw52PUc
smajmal62 11 months ago
@nolobede
/watch?v=0E0_rw52PUc
/watch?v=AdvlmgI5CWk
smajmal62 11 months ago
@smajmal62
I have much better things to do.
nolobede 11 months ago
@nolobede
You have your free will to decide what is better for you.
May be what you think is good for you is not so good.
smajmal62 11 months ago
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@smajmal62
"May be what you think is good for you is not so good."
...and certainly what someone ELSE thinks might be good for me is even less relevant.
nolobede 11 months ago
@smajmal62
Whats good for me, is rational thought and realizing the truth. You might want to try that.
nolobede 10 months ago
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@nolobede
When you will understand that there is only one God who is the creator and sustainer of all mankind and then you will try to see the world with this rational thought and your own free will , you will have unlimited joy of reaching the truth !
Guidance is the biggest favour we humans can have , the ultimate pleasure !
smajmal62 10 months ago
@smajmal62 if u believe in god, why dont u kill urself and go to heaven?
gamer7916 11 months ago
@gamer7916
Because killing myself off will make me go to hell.
So as a believer I need to be patient with life.
smajmal62 11 months ago
@smajmal62 Why would a loving god taunt you with a glorious afterlife but if you don't do exactly as he says you get sent to a fire pit to burn for eternity?
HoLOLcaust 11 months ago
@HoLOLcaust
Humans had a covenant with God of having an afterlife full of rewards for obeying him with free will or a life in hell for disobeying him .
God has given a broad path for humans to walk on, religion is not a straight line .
When humans come across adverse circumstances and ask help from God he helps them too and when they err ask his forgivenes , he forgives too.
Thats' why he is merciful.
A non-Merciful God could have not left any option of repentance & forgiveness
smajmal62 11 months ago
@smajmal62 “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”
- Epicurus
HoLOLcaust 11 months ago 16
@HoLOLcaust
Evil and Good are two perspectives that cannot be decided by human beings.
If afterlife which is very long, is considered, many good things become evil as they distract us from preparation for hereafter while many evil things become good as they remind us of hereafter and make us exert for that.
The poverty is bad but the Prophet Muhammad pbuh prayed not to be rich as he could have patience with his poverty.
smajmal62 11 months ago
@smajmal62 The Prophet Muhammad was a bloodthirsty warlord. He brainwashed people into Islam, which is basically Judaism and Christianity combined so they would fight for him for free.
HoLOLcaust 11 months ago
@HoLOLcaust
You are very ignorant about islamic history.
There was no connection of islam with Christianity and Judaism for many years after it was started to be preached.
For 13 long yesrs, more than 50% of the time of Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad, Muslims were not allowed even to retaliate the oppressive insults and torturings imposed upon them by their fellow non-Muslims.
smajmal62 11 months ago
@smajmal62 Have you seen what that religion has done to this world? Look at the Middle East.
HoLOLcaust 11 months ago
@HoLOLcaust
That is not religion
That is politics
smajmal62 11 months ago
@HoLOLcaust GOD causes "evil", look into the Scripture. Google it Isaiah 45:5-7.
Domodeath 8 months ago
@Domodeath Right and why do you think that's a very 'godly' thing?
HoLOLcaust 8 months ago
@HoLOLcaust Yes, How can I call GOD just, if He fails to punish the wicked?
Domodeath 8 months ago
@Domodeath He's the one that created the evil in the first place. Seems pretty sadistic of him.
HoLOLcaust 8 months ago
@HoLOLcaust Please don't assume that GOD is the author of evil, secondly even if He was the author of evil who are you to judge the creator? He is free to do whatever He wants to just a painter is of His painter. "But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this? Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?"- Romans 9:21
Domodeath 8 months ago
@Domodeath So simply because he created everything he gets to do whatever he wants? So if a father decided to kill his first born child is that ok?
HoLOLcaust 8 months ago
@HoLOLcaust First of all, you assume He created everything, I would like evidence for the claim. You're father has laws above him and higher powers over him, but GOD does not, there is no higher god, law or higher power to control Him. What He designs, He does what He wants to do with. He is YEHWAH, there is no other god besides Him, He brings both death and Life, inflicts wounds and heals them. A similar statement is found by GOD in Deuteronomy 23:39.
Domodeath 8 months ago
@Domodeath For the sake of the argument just assume that God doesn't exist, and a crazy scientist creates a living organism from scratch. Does he then have the right to do whatever he wants to the creature?
HoLOLcaust 8 months ago
@HoLOLcaust No, because he still would have laws and higher powers over him. But if he didn't, sure why not, in a deluded world without a GOD there would be no real morality, no right or wrong. More so people wouldn't have a conscience to stop him, so I can't type that it would be wrong because it doesn't really exist in this imagernary world... however if there is a deistic GOD (which there isn't) then I suppose it would be fine, if the creation belonged to him.
Domodeath 8 months ago
@Domodeath Like most other Christians, you seem to have a twisted sense of morality. Simply because you created something does not mean you get to do whatever you want. If your god was real (Which he isn't) then he is a tyrant. I'm done talking to you because I realize that you are somebody who has willingly accepted a fundamentalist dogma. Have fun being deluded.
HoLOLcaust 8 months ago
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Domodeath 8 months ago
@HoLOLcaust First of, who made you the decider of morality? Secondly, who are you to decide moral law? You know its interesting that you claim not to believe in GOD yet hate Him, you make fun of Him, hate Christians and are un-willing to think logically, in fact you deluded yourself with dogmatic thinking, not looking at prophecy or intelligent design as a possibility . More so regardless of what you say, He says this: I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.-Isaiah 46:10
Domodeath 8 months ago
@Domodeath Do you know him personally? That's a rather harsh proclamation if you don't actually know him. He never claimed to hate God, or hate Christians. HE never actually claimed anything, he quoted a very prominent Epicurean philosopher, that's it.
AgowTisro 8 months ago
@AgowTisro Okay, well he implied it by calling GOD a tyrant, he also typed "pretty sadistic of him." Him being GOD. And implied his hatred for Christians by typing "Like most Christians, you seem to have a twisted view of morality" also he typed "I realize you are somebody who has willingly accepted a fundamentalist dogma. Have fun being deluded." If he did quote a philosopher why didn't he use quotes ("") and give the philosopher credit for his words?
Domodeath 8 months ago
@Domodeath Oh wow, I stumbled into a much larger argument than I had thought. I just saw the highest rated comment was his quotation of of Epicurus and thought you were bashing him for that. I apologize then, I didn't realize there was so much more to your conversation with him lol.
AgowTisro 8 months ago
@AgowTisro :-D Its all good
Domodeath 8 months ago
@Domodeath "without a GOD there would be no real morality, no right or wrong."
I would be interested in exploring your discussion/debate where HoLOLcaust left off. What you wrote above is rather interesting to me. Since you disagree with HoLOLcaust on morality, then define morality or offer examples of morally responsible behavior. What is morally acceptable behavior. Once terms are defined, we can easily continue to move this conversation forward.
blaisingm 7 months ago
@HoLOLcaust that is an excellent point.
pillowbugg 4 months ago
@HoLOLcaust Even when I was agnostic, I always liked that quote.
FrigidAxe 6 months ago
@FrigidAxe Agnostic is not a separate belief system like so many people think. It defines your beliefs, agnostic atheists don't know if there is a god but they aren't excluding the possibility. Gnostic atheists know there isn't a god and reject it completely. The same goes for theists.
HoLOLcaust 6 months ago
Did anyone notice they are only like 5 people whit that fag. He is so pathetic and sounds so dumb.
mexamexo8 1 year ago
When people say put god back in the classroom, we want kids in pre-school to learn how to give food away when their belly is full.
Unrealll6666 1 year ago
Thank God I didn't have any science teachers like that.
friedie1jeff 1 year ago
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What a FUCKING IDIOT!
liteashmusic 1 year ago
One might hope the Russians will learn from their history, even if nobody else does. The study of genetics was banned by the horrible Soviet atheists because it so clearly demonstrates evolution couldn't take place as claimed.
Then again, I can't say what Russians are taught regarding their own history...
trextoter 1 year ago
Endogenous retroviruses basically 99.998% prove our common ancestry with champanzees primates.
speedproductions797 1 year ago
No one is "pretending" that there's no possibility of creation. Well... perhaps there are a few, but scientists don't "pretend" there is no god, and then come up with their conclusions. I still don't see why intelligent people need to confuse evolution and atheism... but then again.. I'm not too convinced as to the intelligence level of this nation's people.
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
YOU NEED EVDIENCE, then you can put it schools.
615Deathdealer 1 year ago
If you are a theist, and are reading this, please understand that science teachers, around the globe, are not too thrilled with the lies told to our youth regarding creation stories. Please try to see it from our vantage point. When a student enters ANY science classroom, they are taught the Scientific method. From there, we cover each discipline(Biology, Geology, Chemistry etc). All science curricula has been subjected to this method and substantiated by mountains of peer-reviewed evidence.
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
@saxmanchiro "All science curricula has been subjected to this method and substantiated by mountains of peer-reviewed evidence. "
Total garbage propaganda. Evolanders are still fighting to keep Häckel's frauds in the textbooks. "Peer review"? Those drawings were always known to be phony, and his stories were even debunked by T.H. Huxley, his own friend.
How many years AFTER they were known to be totally bogus were Nebraska Man and Piltdown Man still taught?
I know a science teacher or 2, btw.
trextoter 1 year ago
@trextoter I smell something.
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
@saxmanchiro "I smell something."
Why are you telling me this?
trextoter 1 year ago
@trextoter That smell won't go away. What the hell is it?
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
@trextoter
they piltdown and nebraska man are still mentioned as a thing to show how far people go to get some attencion. but no book will tell you that those are true facts.
mexamexo8 1 year ago
@trextoter
they mention piltdown and nebraska man as a reference to show, how far people would go to get some attencion. but no book will tell you that those are true facts.
mexamexo8 1 year ago
@mexamexo8 Can you not answer a simple question?
I said "How many years AFTER they were known to be totally bogus were Nebraska Man and Piltdown Man still taught?"
Now take your little ADD or ADHD pill, and try again.
trextoter 1 year ago
@trextoter if they keep teaching those fails years after, then who you should blame is the education system and not the teory of evolution.
mexamexo8 11 months ago
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@mexamexo8 "if they keep teaching those fails years after, then who you should blame is the education system and not the teory of evolution."
I don't need or desire to blame anyone other than the lying cowards who insist lies must be taught to children.
trextoter 11 months ago
no probes for evolution??? LOL where do you live mars?
ignacio1200 1 year ago
Wow, RussiaToday has one hell of a strange demography. Black magic, UFO's, the New World Order, Satanism, Evolution is evil? You people are fucking nuts!
phantomspellchecker 1 year ago
fine, move that in to the schools.. but then let the noodely apendage touch them all and get FSM into school too!
baker861120 1 year ago
A secret war is in process, created by Satanic forces for global power, and the domination and subjugation of the peoples of the world. They use black magic to advance their goals. They are in control of and manipulate governments of major influence in the west, and force through the enactment of laws to further their evil agenda, which are against the interests of the people. They control the media, and manipulate what you read, what you watch and hear.
ChemTrailSkys 1 year ago
hey man this guy is cool he is talking a lot of sense
gluepot66 1 year ago
Friggin' fuzzy headed fuck; what the hell was he looking up at during that interview? Who interviewed him, freaking Shaq or somebody?
jerico641 1 year ago
@jerico641 u so ignorant for that...i cant believe you wasted time tring to come up with that weak rib. this man has a valid point and u trynna turn it into a joke man come on this is a religious group and you cussin like that...no respect at all
MrJustinwillc 1 year ago
@MrJustinwillc
C'mon, now, just try a little harder...I know that's English you're writing but I can't quite understand it; slow down and try one more time; attaboy!
jerico641 1 year ago
@jerico641 u worked hard on that didn't you.
MrJustinwillc 1 year ago
@MrJustinwillc
Well, that's a little better; now try putting two sentences together. I know you can do it!
jerico641 1 year ago
Who, precisely, are the "elite?" Does he mean educated people?
RHYMEMAIDEN1 1 year ago
@RHYMEMAIDEN1 yeah, he was talking about teachers and people who relay messages to school kids.
MrJustinwillc 1 year ago
"He's gonna remove the hand of protection from us"
WHAT hand of protection? where was he when we suffered so many things like the Great Depression and 9/11? Where was the "hand of protection" then? Idiot.
Kairusan 1 year ago
Maybe HE can't prove Evolution, but anyone with a brain can.
Kairusan 1 year ago
"i couldnt prove evolution" i couldnt prove creation"
that is a good way to say it.
"half of the people there believe every single word of the bible"
Deuteronomy 22:28-39----If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
they believe in that?
AceofDimonds0 1 year ago
This 'teacher' needs to have his license revoked yesterday. As a science teacher, I am embarassed to call this preacher a colleague. His statement about not being able to support Evolution is telltale. He is an imbecile and needs to leave the public education system and stay in his church where his ignorance is welcome. His sheep will be happy but his students are getting a raw deal, especially if they go on to college and discover he lied to them. Parents should be outraged by this fraud.
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
@saxmanchiro AGREED! I've even come across people with PhD's in Physics and Chemistry, and they say that evolution is "just a theory." Now, from a teacher preacher, I can understand their ignorance. But from someone who recieved a PhD in Physics at Harvard University (not naming names here, but I assure you...he exists!) and claims that evolution can't happen because it violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics, I am speechless!
Forlo12345 1 year ago
I teach in a public school in the southern USA and share my professional space with extreme fundies, even in our science dept. It goes to show you how strong the brainwashing can be. I am very careful not to show my nonbelief cards in the classroom and hallways lest my administrators get wind of it. It would be the end of my job and probably have to move to a more sane area, like Scandinavia! Several of our staff are either part-time preachers or ex-preachers. It's crazy but true.
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
@saxmanchiro u believe that evolution crap...whoever does is a fool right along with you...(no offense) maybe because its my religion but i think that evolution stuff is a bunch a bs...and I AM ON THIS MANS SIDE...he tells the truth whether hes a teacher or not...
MrJustinwillc 1 year ago
@MrJustinwillc It's very sad that you take this stance. For someone to come on a public forum and say this, is upsetting to me as a science teacher. My job is much more difficult when folks like you try to push your ancient mythology on our kids.
If you have some evidence to refute this very strong Theory, then please feel free to present it to the scientific community. Not only is there a large prize available to you(Nobel prize) but also you would be an instant star in science.
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
@saxmanchiro This isn't an argument so don't make it one. You also have a valid point. But I really hate how scientist always trying to prove something. In that case what caused the big bang to occur anyways. I mean some force had to be there. WHY DON'T YOU PROVE THAT. I'm not a time traveler so I can't prove nothing. Everything in life can't be proved. Even the simplist things in life are mysteries to some.
MrJustinwillc 1 year ago
@MrJustinwillc
"But I really hate how scientist(sic) always trying to prove something."
Then I guess you 'hate' using computers, cell phones, regular phones, TV, electricity, drinking water, fossil fuels, airplanes, medicines, surgery, or anything else you take for granted to work and keep you safe every second of the day. Please understand this glaring piece of hypocrisy you are pushing.
Just because we don't have an answer yet for some things, we don't stop discovery and say goddidit.
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
@saxmanchiro again...im not starting an argument...but, where did i ever say i dont like technology?
MrJustinwillc 1 year ago
@MrJustinwillc Let's try this again, shall we?
Definitions for the impaired :
'hate'- despise, loathe, dislike, abominate, detest
'Scientist'- an investigator that employs the scientific method
'Technology'- the application of science, especially to industrial or commercial objectives or the scientific method and materials used to achieve a commercial or industrial objective(ex: plane, automobile, plane, cell phone, fossil fuels, electricity, tap water)
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
@saxmanchiro first of all, u lil bastard im not impaired and im done because you trying to insult and i said im not arguning...dont comment again...
MrJustinwillc 1 year ago
@MrJustinwillc You said you hate it when scientists go and try to prove something. I called you out on that statement and you will not try to substantiate your claim. As a scientist, I need to stand up to your insult. As to an earlier line within the same post, you say everything in life can't be proved. Have you not read a single Biology text? We understand life and it's underpinnings, how we have our current biodiversity, and soon finding the start of life or Abiogenesis. Nope, no god there.
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
@saxmanchiro can u explain and prove how we were here...or even and explain AND prove how the earth was exactly formed by some rock explosion or whatever nonsense...??? everything can't be explained... (BTW sorry bout the insult but you just made me mad w/ the impaired thing...i dont take kindly being called out my name)...
MrJustinwillc 1 year ago
@MrJustinwillc In less than 500 words, I cannot do your question justice. But you can find the answers in ANY Biology textbook that has not been altered by some religious thinktank. We fully understand how 'we'(I assume you mean Homo sapiens) got here. Even without the incredible DNA molecule info(pre-1953) we understood this. For the last 60 yrs, we have gathered much knowledge of ancestry for so many organisms, including Plants, Protists, Fungi, Animals, and even the Prokaryotes.
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
@MrJustinwillc says - I really hate how science always trying to prove something
REPLY LOL what a dumbass statement.
Well you have to "prove something" in order to get anyone other than dumbasses to believe your magic book. So prove the talking snake - -virgin birth -- jumping out of the grave - samson's magic hair - moses and his magic rod - water into wine -- a dome covering the earth -- the tower of babel theory of language - great flood/murder -
Cuffsmaster 1 year ago
wish this was a good idea. i think he would basically be trying to teach something that most dont wanna learn. pupils must have a voluntary interest i say leave it for the churches and bible studies.
TaOpOcL462 2 years ago
Holy crap. I live in Louisiana and I didn't know about this guy.
k87jury 2 years ago
He teaches biology and chemistry? He knows that he cant teach creationism because for one- no evidence and it cant be tested. Wow
WS6TALS1 2 years ago
'The more educated a person is, the less likely they are to believe in Creationism."
Just a theory, no, another fact.
gregrutz 2 years ago 18
For the great majority that's true. However it is possible to be technically intelligent and believe in ridiculous things. Case and point the 911 hijackers where highly educated. Engineers and so on. The guy that drove his car with bomb at heathrow airport few years back was a suicide bomber and a neurosurgeon in Britain. For all the smarts they have no wisdom. I guess religion becomes a kind of high like they are addicted to heroin. The will don anything for it. Even irrational acts.
ray38montreal 1 year ago
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@gregrutz The place for indoctrination is the classroom. If you only get your information from those who indoctrinate you, you are not honest with yourself. People are paid to support what is politically "in vogue" at any time. Indoctrination into religious bullshit, like magical mystical causes of evolution. There is no evolution on this planet. There is only genetics and de-evolution from fit to less fit. complex to less complex. It is in all the DNA. Neutral Evolution Forum
GoodScienceForYou 11 months ago
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@gregrutz Goto GoodScienceForYou Neutral Evolution Forum and read all the peer reviewed DNA studies that only show degradation to genomes.
GoodScienceForYou 11 months ago