If you can find any. Or we could listen to a misinformed whiney American kid who: thinks maintaining a concentration camp in the 21st century is all right; doesn't realise BP is almost 50% American owned and like Bush makes things up. You keep mentioning Europe and England because clearly you don't understand that this decision was made by the Scottish executive who are only responsible to themselves. Then to top it all; you express yourself using foul and abusive language. Dufus.
@irresistablejewel A concentration camp? Give me a break - there are maybe 200 prisoners there, some of whom have fired on BRITISH troops. The stock ownership of BP does not change the fact that it is a British company. Used to be called Anglo-Persian Oil Co., btw. Scatland is IN Europe and part of Britain, so yes, the bigger picture is that this is not just about Scatland. It's about eurocowardice and eurohypocrisy. This is just another sad chapter.
@warriorprince1010 It is approximately 40% owned by American interests.; 40% UK and 20% others. My point was (and is), that BP is a multinational company. Blaming the British for the oil spill is politically convenient, but inacurate.
Ok, likewise claiming that BP lobbied westminster as purely British self interest is incorrect also. As: BP is multinational; Westminster has no say in the decision anyway and Scotland would love to blow the whistle on any underhand deal, so it probably didn't happen that way.
However it would be simpler if you made your points to "theloyalofficer" who seems to like inventing "facts" casting aspertions on my countrymen and through abuse seeks to inflame this matter..
Based on the Scottish example, we have two cancers not: one for the real deal, and one that hands over mass murderers under false pretenses for oil deals.
@TheLoyalOfficer There should be no Scottish Executive anyway. Thankfully Salmond looks finished now, I wouldn't be surprised if his own party replaces him with a younger leader.
@irres Of course you hate Americans.Only a hater would talk like you do. Before 9/11? Sure there was Khobar Towers, the Embassy attacks, the USS Cole, and other attacks. You can go back to 629 AD if you want. Bottom line - we were attacked by people who were once our allies. Kind of like Japan in WW2 - allied with US in WW1. Why is that such a shock? Yet another straw man on fire. You have any more? Plz read some history.
Meanwhile you got your phony doctors and their bribed diagnoses. SHAME.
@irresistablejewel Do you have any other bullshit, glass-house, irrelevant straw men to bandy around about the USA to mask your dreary country's ridiculous and corrupt decision to release a mass murderer?
Treated fine?? yeah right! in their lovely concentration camp.
Yes.... the war on terror is invalid!
I am not on the side of Bush or his terrorists.... he trained them... then he wants to fight them... now we must all be afraid of them too?? War on terror... don't make me laugh.
You don't know if I hate Americans, at all.... there you go again, all yak yak.
I think you'll find 9/11 is a long way from the start of the war.
Maybe you forgot the American support for the IRA.
@irresistablejewel Compared to the Boers that your rotten empire put in camps early last century? Please. Any Brit is in a huge glass house when it comes to atrocities. Don't throw stones.
American support for the IRA? WHAT? The US Gov. NEVER supported the IRA. Those were actions of individuals. Another straw man set ablaze.
Enemies become friends and friends become enemies in international relations, numbskull! Just a cursory reading of history would reveal that.
@irresistablejewel Where is the supposition? There are 200 people in Gitmo. They are being treated fine. Give me a break. Another straw man burst into flame.
The evidence is in the bastard's SURVIVAL. Again - why is he still alive? There's only one explanation - he does NOT have terminal cancer!
So, now, let's use our brains for a moment here (you do have one, right?) There must be a REASON why these doctors gave a phony diagnosis. Then we have the BP oil deal. WAKE UP!
@irresistablejewel Yeah, "one man" who slaughtered 270, including Scots. I know you hate Americans, but shouldn't you want a modicum of justice for the dozens of non-American victims of this massacre? Where is your sense of justice?
WE started this war? WHAT? My city was attacked - my friends murdered and my office building destroyed. Are you going to start with 9/11 conspiracy theories now? You are pathetic.
@irresistablejewel If you are referring to Iraq, then you should know that I was one of the 35%+ of the American people that were against that war from Day 1. But you can't run around and say that the whole war on terror is invalid. That is the classic eurocoward response. Get hit - and do nothing... Except maybe some empty talk.
@irresistablejewel So that's your comeback? Now that you have the evidence, it's just "lousy"? I would laugh at your pathos were it not so disgraceful. The evidence is clear to anyone but a moron or a robot programmed to believe that filthy LIAR MacAssKiss:
This whole thing stinks to high heaven. This will go down in history as Scatland's first big crime as an independent nation.
"Three months was what we were aiming for. 3 months was the critical point" [For authorizing the bullshit release on "compassionate grounds". Read the article.
Your moral high horse has just been reduced to a sick dog. I suggest you get off of it before your catch the same corrupt disease that afflicts MacAssKiss and the rest of the disgraceful government of Scatland.
And no, I am NOT "moving on..." No justice, no move on...
Ok, I asked you to quote your sources... you won't. You claim you have talked to doctors who say you die in 90 days with terminal cancer; thats incorrect.... its 6 months and even that is not exact. So either you are talking to poor doctors or, as I suspect, you are making it up. I did not say Iran was responsible for Lockerbie... show me where I did!
Scotland has large oil deposits; do you not know that?
If it was a corrupt oil deal; Salmond would love to expose that.
@irresistablejewel What source do you need? The source is that he is still alive! 1+1=2, hun. It's obvious that there was/is some sort of chicanery here. And even 6 months has elapsed - his "terminal cancer" which was a phoney, bribed joke. How could the doctors make such a huge mistake? Pull your head out of your ass and smell the corruption.
Why do you keep referring to the Iran incident then?
You say "move on" - do you have any sense of justice to the victims of this attack?
Without quoting your sources; your rhetoric is meaningless. Its fortunate that most of the other kids that use youtube don't have your turn of phrase, because its out of place in the context of this tradgedy. If you want answers to medical questions, then go ask a doctor. As to describing the Scots as cowards; I don't care, our credentials are quite in order thank you. If you want corruption look at the billions in oil America stole.
@irresistablejewel Yeah, I have asked doctors and they all said the same thing: terminal cancer = DEAD in 90 days! This rat bastard is STILL ALIVE after over a YEAR! Of course MacAssKiss was bribed! Why else would he release this monster?
My "turn of phrase" is because of this disgusting, bribed and corrupt situation. Do you Scats have any sense of justice?
@TheLoyalOfficer No there is clearly another reason for your turn of phrae. Things will get better now that you have got rid of "that retarded cowboy fella" you had as president. I think if the American navy had not blown a civilian airliner out of the sky, this would not have happened and my country would not have to bear this tradgedy. You reap what you sow. Scotland is not going to keep clearing up the mess your country makes. The decision has been made, it is not negotiable.
@irresistablejewel So Iran did the Lockerbie attack? Do you have a shred of proof? No. And even then, how does that justify the bombing of an airliner? The Iran situation was an ACCIDENT, and settled between Iran and the US in 1988. So your moralizing smokescreen is shown for the bullshit fail that it is.
Scatland? Clearing up messes? With phoney diagnoses and corrupt oil deals? How does that clean anything up? If anything, it is the USA cleaning up the messes of the Euro empires.
Look at this miserable faggot coward. What a disgusting display of faggotude. Yeah, he faces a sentence? He is STILL ALIVE. "He is going to die?" Oh really?
@TheLoyalOfficer which paper do you refer to and whose evidence? I don't recognise your terminology PWND, is it concerning WMD or just some infantile american term. Since you address your comment directly to me; I'll make my position clear. I either live in a country where they will sell their "grandmother" for a barrel of oil; or one that is tired of american duplicity and bully boy tactica. I think its the latter. The constant picking at this open wound by the media is disrespectful
@irresistablejewel Awwww... Feeling disrespected are we? How about the families of the Lockerbie victims! And it is indeed an open wound. Fresh and bleeding, especially considering the fact that the terrorist's "terminal cancer" is a total farce. The allegations of bribery are only natural - why else would these doctors give a phoney diagnosis?
There is no American duplicity here - only Scottish.
Its certainly not a Catholic one, as they are attacking America for its culture of vengence.
Whether I feel disrespected or not is irrelevant.
I see no evidence to support what you say. The Scottish executive have made their decision. Its a final decision, as is their right. The matter is closed.
@irresistablejewel The matter is closed?? No it's not. Why was he released? He does NOT have terminal cancer. He is STILL ALIVE. Was there an oil deal from Libya in the offing? Was MacAskill bribed? Were the phoney doctors bribed? The evidence is clear - if he had terminal cancer, he would be DEAD by now!
@TheLoyalOfficer Were the phoney doctors bribed? I thought they were using real doctors. Why was he released? He was diagnosed with terminal cancer and from a Scottish perspective the release demonstrated compassion and is a necessary step towards closure. The evidence is clear No its not. Although many consider the conviction "unsafe"; guilt has been admitted. Yes there was a subsequent oil deal with the UK, that is a matter of record. Was MacAskill bribed? Of course not. Move on.
@irresistablejewel Yeah - "terminal cancer" = DEAD in 90 days. This douchebag is STILL ALIVE. So yeah - the whole thing is fishy. You are FUCKING RETARDED if you think that this phoney diagnosis had no ulterior motives. "Compassionate grounds"? Why isn't he dead then? How does releasing a terrorist under false, bribed pretenses help closure? Maybe for your selfish asses, but not for the victims of this massacre. Please pull your head out of your ass. Wake up and smell the corruption.
Again.... Jack Straw does not have the decision, McAskill does. Brown is no doubt angry because he is a Scot and British PM which equates to a conflict of interest if he expresses an opinion. You really believe you are keeping your country safe by attacking countries for financial reasons. Its obvious that companies like Haliburton are making billions from your phoney wars. This isn't making things safer for anyone. Hopefully Obama can repair some of the damage the Bush dynasty has caused
I don't see what Scotland has to explain or apologise for. These are our values and our legal system. The Americans and English, for that matter are fond of telling other countries how to run their affairs. They also like to label their enemys terrorists and themselves warriors. From a Scottish perspective there were no winners only innocent victims. An attempt to draw a line under this tragedy gets the response "So what does Scotland get?" Closure. Now leave us alone.
im glad the scottish govt didnt cowtow to the wishes of the yanks.afterall they probably caused the bombing in the 1st place well done scotland they are not asskissers to noone we made the modern world we r the father of modern thinking ...snp rule
Scoland did not release him for compassion it was for oil. All the evidence leaked out from the British ministry yesterday. its in the news look it up.
If it was me I'd have released the guy for a bag of fucking sugar just to piss off these imperialist yanks - no wait, a cup of sugar, no wait a tea spoon
wow we relased him for oil ? hey we got a pretty good deal , i mean i thought we were gettign nothing for relasing him ecept the joy of pissing off america , but some oil will do nicley i guess ..
U guys wear skirts, eat animal brains, have ugly women and shitty weather. I can see how u guys would want the worst for us.. it all makes sense now. Misery loves company.
pfftt shut up you america fatboy , honestly you sink to the typical insults of people who are jealous of scotland , ive never wore a kilt in my life , neither has anybody i know under the age of 30 , the women here are pretty decent looking considering half of the women in usa are overweight slobs that come from trailers , the weather here is jsut a little dirizzle of rain followed by sun and a wee bit of wind,you have tornadoes and hurrincanes,all makes sense america livers in denial..its shit
I live in California, we got the most beautiful latina, asian, black and mixed girls in the world beyond any doubt. "Decent looking" just doesnt cut it. I seen Scottish girls, they have SQUARE asses, pale faces with freckles and red hair. Girls aside... You must have no respect or pride for your country. If I was you I would be furious cos England basically made u guys take the fall and made their scapegoat. Your country is taking the fall for Englands covert business agenda.
Most beautiful girls? Well I think the beach Boys agree with you; but what does that have to do with the Lockerbie tradgedy? Nothing thats what. I doubt this has anything to do with an English oil deal. Show me your proof.
I think you have illustrated the vaccuous nature of American society far better than I could.
Why must I have no respect or pride for my country? and what does ""take the fall" mean... that implies we are guilty of something. Move on.
The proof is already leaked from the British Ministry on sunday. How about you read the news and do some research before u start yappin away next time.
You are wrong, in my opinion. Jack Straw says you are wrong. Alex Salmon says you are wrong. Your assertion that in some way Scotland wanted to help England with an oil deal would be funny, if you didn't both insult my countries integrity and quite possibly the memory of the victims.
Your really think your Gov't is lookin out for you? You really believe everything they feed you? You really believe they are not corrupt? They already sold you out countless times like every other Gov't in the world do to their ppl. Its typical politics nowadays, but u act like it could never happen... Get off your high horse and face reality, its happening whether u like it or not.
I believe this convict was released on compassionate grounds and I support that. Yes I believe the Bush administration was corrupt and that democratic capitalism is fundamentaly flawed. So where is your proof about this alledged oil deal, or are you just yappin' away. I rather think you are.
There have been discussions between the UK and Libya for years over acquiring oil contracts in Libya. Libya would not do business with England unless they released that terrorist. Scotland refused to release him in a prisoner swap deal the Libyans were trying to push so instead they released him on compassionate grounds. This is from your country's news too. "lockerbie letters" Google it.
You are missing the point. The Scottish and English judicial systems are seperate. The Lockerbie papers you mention are the English governments attempt to prove they did not pressure the Scottish government into some ugly oil deal and not are you suggest proof they did. I don't think you should judge the Scots by your standards
The point is the English are using Scotland as a scapegoat. If u cant see it, if u dont believe it, if u dont accept it, IT DOESNT MATTER. Deny it all u want, believe whatever u want to. IT DOESNT CHANGE REALITY.
Yeah, the reality is you are talking rubbish ITZAMOBB
You should use the word alledgedly when you can't prove something.
Changing the subject slightly.... Isn't yours the country that, in the 21st century, maintains a concentration camp in Cuba; where only 3 people have ever been charged? Thats reality, isn't it?
They are terrorists. they can rott in the jail til they die. No one cares except u Anti-American pussies. We should never apologize for keeping our country safe and we shouldn't even be releasing information on how we interrogate the people that want to see our country burn down in flames. Im leaving this thread because I said everything I had to say. U are a little cunt and u cant face reality. I dont give a fuck, I mean at the end of the day you are only lying to yourself.
Britain's foreign secretary said Prime Minister Brown did not want the convicted Lockerbie bomber to die in prison, because it would have a catastrophic effect on British-Libyan relations.
Notes taken during a meeting between British official Bill Rammell and Libya's minister for Europe, Abdulati Alobidi, show Rammell telling the Libyans that neither Mr. Brown nor British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw wanted the bomber to die in prison.
Continued... The documents also show that Straw decided to include Megrahi in a prisoner transfer deal to help improve ties with Libya. Straw originally excluded the bomber from the deal.
Brown angrily rejected that interpretation of events: "On our part, there was no conspiracy, no cover-up, no double-dealing, no deal on oil, no attempt to instruct Scottish ministers, no private assurances by me to Colonel Gaddafi."
Mr Straw insisted on Sunday that the disclosures were a "red herring" as Kenny MacAskill, the Scottish justice minister, made the final decision on Megrahi's release.
Mr Salmond stressed that Megrahi was not released under the prisoner transfer agreement because his administration did not want the decision linked to trade or oil.
I can't find this type of admission from Jack Straw.
In any case this the tail wagging the dog. MzcAskill made the decision, not Straw.
Scotland has oil, why do a deal for oil?
This case illustrates a fundamental problem with democtratic capitalism... the need to be re-elected every 5 or so years. It blinkers real decision making.
I don't think MacAskill needs to say any more.... the book is closed.
Start respecting other cultures... find a sustainable power source; or squabble.
i live in glasgow yes you get ugly girls but some of the most attractive in the world jsut liek you do in cali , now lets cut the shit.i have no pride for my country? ive spent thousands of pounds following my country accross europe in "soccer" ,with my income that has to be patrotic. another point england made us the fall guy ..duh ,your acting like im suppose to change that ?scotland has always been used by england,but we have always fought back in one way, rmember we only have 5 million peps
Obviously there nothing u can do to change that. but doesnt it make u a little mad that they would do that to u guys? If you really are proud then it should make u furious. Im even mad for u guys
look you dont think scottish people are furious of this?you dont think our blood boils about this?it happened on scottish soil and killed a good few scottish civlians and destoryed a village howevr as strange+stupid as it may sound im supporting our govt on this descion,
i never belivied he was guilty,he protestd his innocence every day for 10 years, launchd countles appeal ,our govt knew he was a scapegoat and US pressure meant he was jailed,howver if he was the real bomber he deserved to die
and is being seen as a two timing , money making , hypocritical SOB...you know like all your likes ....make money by exporting goods to america .and then use it to feeling sorry for muslim terrorists ...
who i am sure one day will repeatedly rape your ass...
Look, the "evidence" at the original trial was flawed to say the least. The discrepancies at the trial are astounding and a miscarriage of justice took place. Two thirds of experts on Scots law believe it was the right decision. The original prosecutor (Lord advocate Carmyle) believes it was the right decision.
The real issue here is that the yanks are just angry that the Scottish government didn't do it's bidding.
You want mass murderers in jail? Jail the captain of the USS Vincense!
Hang on. If you concede that it was the Iranians then why are you attacking the Scottish government for releasing him?
The Muslim council of Britain is not in existence to "find" criminals, muslim or otherwise. Thats a job for the cops.
I'm sick and tired of hearing people label all muslims as Wetern hating murderers likewise that all Westerners want to kill all muslims. If that is what the respective religions have taught both sides then boths sides be damned.
the evidence is fairly solid that this was a joint project planned parllel to berlin bombing...and libya admitted its part when it paid compensation to the victims
you are i am afraid ..rather ignorant on a number of issues here
A case of pot, kettle and black here I think. I'm am ignorant on very little of the facts here. You on the other hand have done very well at not answering any questions. Another timewasting youtuber.
It was nothing of the kind and you know it. Thats why you're backing yourself into a corner writing things that just simply aren't true. There may or may not have been a trade deal but it was certainly NOT between Scotland and Libya, no way in hell.
I'm not going to engage in a pointless argument about who saved who. I have far more respect for the soldiers of ALL sides who died in those conflicts to tarnish their memory slinging ridiculous insults.
There's no "flimsy ant-Americanism" on my part. I can't say the same for your ant-Scottishness though. For days now I've been reading comments on how we've somehow "betrayed" you how you should "boycott" Scotland how we're all "terrorist-lovers". It would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic
Is that all you sheep shagging peasants can talk about? Blow it out your arse, sit doon, and have a big hot heaping bowl of haggish. Like I said, it will take some serious arse kissing before I come to your miserable aid, AGAIN! You little piss-ant no bigger than one of the smallest US states think that you can take on the Muslim empire by yourself. GO AHEAD!
Listen all u scots hating cunts. For the record, i'm scottish and i don't think al magrahi should have been released . However, america should stop poking their fuking noses into everything. and as for jpandyaraja, a scotsmens' kilt contains an large brave independant and decisive penis. So fuck off u mug!
We should send in SAS and a few fighter jets to bring this Megrahi back to UK and put him in strangeways prison with the smelly manks. They will rob with socks and tell him to pick up the soap in the shower.
On the contrary, Kenny MacAskill's got bigger balls than you or most people to make the decision he made.
He sure didn't do it to be popular, but because of his own moral convictions. Doubt you'd follow your convictions, faced with that level of unpopularity.
Fuckin Arsehole. "Wimen and children died. 11 scots died but lets show compassion and let some dune coon murderin bastard free cause hes got ba cancer." I was prayin his plane would go down on the way home. Irony. This was westminster tellin us whats what again anyway. But even if it was, Kenny should fuckin grow a pair and tell them to fuck off. That bastard should have been hung.
ah there there Scotland forever compationate there there wee kenny standing up for the underdog your afee brave ,do us all a favour and join him in libya you twat.
Terrorists who take up arms are mentally prepared to throw away their lives, Al- Megrahi should have died in jail. Those that died didnt even have the luxury of of choice that Al-Megrahi was given. Kenny better watch his back, and his family as there will be a few angry people out there looking for him.
Do not blame Scotland or the Scots! this was a British choice that the English have forced through like they always do to bump up a fucked British economy by trade deals. The have used the scottish people as scapegoat - the Scottish people are an ancient and proud people much like us in Ireland. The sooner we can break away from England the better and rebuild what was always ours and stop taking flack for something we did not start. look to England for blame for she is the guilty country.
It wasnt a British choice, it was the decision of the devolved government of Scotland as westminster dosnt have a say in such matters. It was MacAskill's decision it starts and ends with him.
lol at you trying to blame England. Deluded or what.
look what all the little terrorist wantabe's have to look up it now kill 100's for jihad and you get release because we feel sorry for him because he's got cancer bloo fucking then give him a homecoming parade like a hero scotland has made him to be GOOD FUCKING JOB, I HOPE U LOSE YOUR JOB
One thing's for sure, whether you think he should have been shown compassion or not, it was a HUGE political mistake by Scotland to allow him to go, they lost everything and gained nothing. And why on earth did they not insist on restraint in Libya BEFORE allowing him to go home, it should have been an absolute condition!?
The reason he was let out now was to avoid a VERY embarrassing appeal that was coming up. It was going to exposure the whole original trial/Scottish legal system as a joke. Fours years ago the Scottish Justice Dept said 'likely he had a miscarriage of justice'.
"an eye for an eye, and soon the whole world will be blind". - Ghandi. you only get two choices in life, you can do whats right or you can do what your told. scotlands government did the right thing thing letting a man' who many people believe is innocent, go home to his family to die, scotland showed all the world the way to treat human beings, we dont behead our captives and post it on the internet like murdering terrorists, we're better than that, compassion not revenge, scotland forever!!
I'm sick and tired of hearing yanks spewing their sanctimonious bile over the airwaves, the hypocrites! America needs to look closer to home. Take Orlando Bosch a terrorist who is lauded in Florida. Take Iranair flight 655, blown out of the sky by USS Vincennes whose crew was then awarded. MacAskill made the right decision and as a scot neither I nor anyone else is responsible. If you yanks think otherwise then you are all responsible for all actions of the US Government such as torture.
Iran-air 655 failed to heed ships warnings over and over, they were just a blip on the screen. Flying in attack profile,the USS Vincennes had no choice but to defend themselves. It was only moments later they realized a commercial airline was struck. They Cried! This truly was an accident. Megrahi INTENDED to murder people! You say he was innocent. Why did you convict him. Make up your mind. Further more,Scotland refused to extradite to America because we have the death penalty. Think about it!
The ship attempted to hail the plane on commercial / military but not on air traffic signals which is the frequency they were on. Also it was a regular service and the ship was (illegally) inside Iranian waters. When they got home they were awarded and the US to this day refuses to apologise. Megrahi was at best a scapegoat and the Scottish Courts are not infallible. Read about Dr. Jim Swire who lost his daughter. MacAskill made brave decision and if the yanks don't like it :p.
That's not true. I might remind you that you are personally accountably for what you say about those crewmen. I don't know what propaganda you have been listening to but you are accountable for what you say. If your a juvenile your parents are responsible. You do not have the money for this but, you will discover how long the arm is for civil litigation. I'm not worried that you will know who I am because you already know me. You might do well to read the defamation part of the U Tube rules.
What part of what I wrote was untrue? The ship WAS inside Iranian waters when it fired. It WAS a regularly scheduled service. The captain DID recieve a commendation after he returned home. To this day the US Government has NOT issued an apology. Which part is untrue? Tell me and I will withdraw my comment. However don't threaten me bully boy yank. Crackers by name... :p
The IFF was set for an F-14, the jet was not ascending but descending, the ship was in the Straight of Hormuz and was engaged with Iranian gunboats. Many hales were made on many frequencies INCLUDING the Com-Air! If I were you I would finish school or get at least the equivalent so you could earn something worth losing. It's apparent that you're of lower social order and bitter about it. The Whole world is shocked at MacCaskills decision you're just too obtuse to recognize it...SORRY! LOL
First of all the USS Vincennes illegally pursued those gunboats into Iranian territorial waters. Once in Iranian territorial waters the Vincennes fired twice at the Iranair flight. Even if the Iranair flight had been a fighter the US ship had no right to fire as it was illegally in those waters and any Iranian fighter would have been well within in its rights to attack. Perhaps you should finish school as the surname of the Minister is MacAskill not MacCaskill you yank turd :p.
I really don't care about you but, the thousands of Libyans that were at the airport for the heroes welcome do; they were chanting "Death to Scotland"
MacAsskill showed the muslim world weakness. If you can't hear that you snot nosed twit it's the sound of me clapping my hands together for your success. By the way, didn't the name Jack get replaced by Mohammed as the #1 name in the UK? If that were not so sad I'd laugh,oh what the hell LMAO!
I don't care about you either but you should know the history of your own land. The fact that the good old US has supported terrorists and despots the world over. The scumbags who got money because they supported the US foreign policy of the day. The main reason we have islamic fundamentalists running around is because of the US and its greedy policies. If America didn't support Saudi Arabia and instead supported a peace deal with Israel there would less of a problem with the "muslim world".
Most muslims are not the foaming at the mouth nutjobs like Bin Laden and co. They are extremists and the way you deal with any form of extermism is to push it to the margins. If there was a peace deal that created a Palestinian state it would be a big help in salving the West/East split. So long as America and the UK supports Israel and corrupt regimes like Saudi there will never be peace. If you keep a million people in a ghetto without hope don't be surprised if some of them turn to violence!
The Tibetans regularly protest against the Chinese but any use of violence on their part would be a useless gesture given the power of the PRC. There is a conflict over whether the alleged Armenian "Genocide" took place. Africans like Mugabe have killed more Africans than the Belgian, French, British and Portuguese combined. Most Arab states are corrupt and despotic AND supported by the west. The reason many young arabs hate the west is the fact that we keep their crooked regimes in power!
The USA is a terrorist state. It is run by the Jews, who peddle multiculturalism and globalisation as the latest tools in their evil armoury to achieve world domination. Read Mein Kampf and then think ahead, post-communism (which was also invented by filthy Jews as a way of enslaving non-Jews). World peace will only come about when the USA have been destroyed as a world power and Israel rubbed out from the map. It is sad that non-Jews die during this process but we all have to go eventually.
Well done Scotland for standing up to the hypocrisy of the u.s. Is this the same country that harboured i.r.a. terrorist's suspected of attack's on British soil? I have just booked my holiday to Scotland and will using Scottish traders as much as possible for the foreseeable future.
Half retarded if better than the full blown retard that you must be to come out with such bullshit. You think the Irish are scum do you? - Why dont you look out of your shack at your thrid world shit hole and ask yourself: can people in glass houses really throw stones. Now go look after your bananna's or tobacco or whatever it is that you fuckers do - you mango munching rent boy.
Irish are scum, I worked for an Irish (real Irish) man before and it was the worst experience of my life. I dont live in a shack or in the 3rd world country. I live in an apartment in sunny California. But mangos are my favorite fruit. I'll give you credit for that one!
Well dude, if you are going to judge an entire people because you had a shit boss then you are showing just how stupid you really are. Its your fault for putting up with it if you had any balls you would have sorted him out - you act like a pussy you get treated like one. And you end up bitter little fuck the rest of your life - next time a boss gives you shit knock the fucker out - you wont have job but you will feel great and not hate entire countries.
I never said he's the only Irish person I met. Lets just say I dont like most english. irsh scottish or aussie ppl but theres always a few that are cool. I had to put up with it becos i had been looking for a job for about 3 months b4 i got that one. I wasnt finna wait another 3 more. I had 2 jobs which I both lost to the recession. Now im self employed and making double what I made with 2 jobs. LMAO And you were sayin??
How can MacCaskill be so proud to take credit for this?!?!?!
Could it be the #1 name chosen there is no longer Jack but Mohammed? This is a dangerous game you play. You lay with dogs, you get fleas. No good can come from this. I love the Scottish but you have a new brand of jacobite among you.
So what we can deduce from your comment. Is this, the average life of a Scott is worth only two to three weeks of incarceration for his or her murderer.
Humm, I think your sums are very bad going by world standards. Unless of course this is what the Scottish people expect for their individual worth.
The CIA were in on all talks.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
So you are telling me that if American interests owned 100% of B.P. it would still be a British company? Thats plainly absurd.
I mean you do admit that you use torture; and you think thats ok.
Scatland is not in Europe... I don't know where that place is.
As I said, you don't understand who made the decision and why.
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
If you can find any. Or we could listen to a misinformed whiney American kid who: thinks maintaining a concentration camp in the 21st century is all right; doesn't realise BP is almost 50% American owned and like Bush makes things up. You keep mentioning Europe and England because clearly you don't understand that this decision was made by the Scottish executive who are only responsible to themselves. Then to top it all; you express yourself using foul and abusive language. Dufus.
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel A concentration camp? Give me a break - there are maybe 200 prisoners there, some of whom have fired on BRITISH troops. The stock ownership of BP does not change the fact that it is a British company. Used to be called Anglo-Persian Oil Co., btw. Scatland is IN Europe and part of Britain, so yes, the bigger picture is that this is not just about Scatland. It's about eurocowardice and eurohypocrisy. This is just another sad chapter.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel BP is 60% owned outside of the UK and 40% in the UK. It pays corporate tax in the UK.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010 It is approximately 40% owned by American interests.; 40% UK and 20% others. My point was (and is), that BP is a multinational company. Blaming the British for the oil spill is politically convenient, but inacurate.
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel Oil spill? That is down Washington deregulation and Halliburton cementing.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
@warriorprince1010
Ok, likewise claiming that BP lobbied westminster as purely British self interest is incorrect also. As: BP is multinational; Westminster has no say in the decision anyway and Scotland would love to blow the whistle on any underhand deal, so it probably didn't happen that way.
However it would be simpler if you made your points to "theloyalofficer" who seems to like inventing "facts" casting aspertions on my countrymen and through abuse seeks to inflame this matter..
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
MacAskill is a stupid fucking cunt just like Alex Salmond.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready No, that would just be you, mate
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel I hope Alex Salmond gets CANCER.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Tell him then; not me
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Do you mean cancer or "cancer"?
Based on the Scottish example, we have two cancers not: one for the real deal, and one that hands over mass murderers under false pretenses for oil deals.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
@TheLoyalOfficer There should be no Scottish Executive anyway. Thankfully Salmond looks finished now, I wouldn't be surprised if his own party replaces him with a younger leader.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@TheLoyalOfficer
Then that cancer... is the CIA
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
He got released.... get used to it.
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel Yeah - I guess we should get used to two-faced, ungrateful, hypocritical eurocowards.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
I see... you think BP is a British company, dont you?
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irres Of course you hate Americans.Only a hater would talk like you do. Before 9/11? Sure there was Khobar Towers, the Embassy attacks, the USS Cole, and other attacks. You can go back to 629 AD if you want. Bottom line - we were attacked by people who were once our allies. Kind of like Japan in WW2 - allied with US in WW1. Why is that such a shock? Yet another straw man on fire. You have any more? Plz read some history.
Meanwhile you got your phony doctors and their bribed diagnoses. SHAME.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel Do you have any other bullshit, glass-house, irrelevant straw men to bandy around about the USA to mask your dreary country's ridiculous and corrupt decision to release a mass murderer?
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
Treated fine?? yeah right! in their lovely concentration camp.
Yes.... the war on terror is invalid!
I am not on the side of Bush or his terrorists.... he trained them... then he wants to fight them... now we must all be afraid of them too?? War on terror... don't make me laugh.
You don't know if I hate Americans, at all.... there you go again, all yak yak.
I think you'll find 9/11 is a long way from the start of the war.
Maybe you forgot the American support for the IRA.
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel Compared to the Boers that your rotten empire put in camps early last century? Please. Any Brit is in a huge glass house when it comes to atrocities. Don't throw stones.
American support for the IRA? WHAT? The US Gov. NEVER supported the IRA. Those were actions of individuals. Another straw man set ablaze.
Enemies become friends and friends become enemies in international relations, numbskull! Just a cursory reading of history would reveal that.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
No, your arguement; its lousy. You keep trying to pass supposition as fact.
I mean that torture camp you maintain in Cuba; thats a crime (against humanity).
You keep focusing on one man too: I don't care about him.
You have no evidence; your facts are wrong and you cant express yourself without hurling abuse.
A million children killed since you started a war and its from your stupid lips I hear the word SHAME? How can that be??
Lockerbie is the biggest air disaster in the UK.
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel Where is the supposition? There are 200 people in Gitmo. They are being treated fine. Give me a break. Another straw man burst into flame.
The evidence is in the bastard's SURVIVAL. Again - why is he still alive? There's only one explanation - he does NOT have terminal cancer!
So, now, let's use our brains for a moment here (you do have one, right?) There must be a REASON why these doctors gave a phony diagnosis. Then we have the BP oil deal. WAKE UP!
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel Yeah, "one man" who slaughtered 270, including Scots. I know you hate Americans, but shouldn't you want a modicum of justice for the dozens of non-American victims of this massacre? Where is your sense of justice?
WE started this war? WHAT? My city was attacked - my friends murdered and my office building destroyed. Are you going to start with 9/11 conspiracy theories now? You are pathetic.
SHAME.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel If you are referring to Iraq, then you should know that I was one of the 35%+ of the American people that were against that war from Day 1. But you can't run around and say that the whole war on terror is invalid. That is the classic eurocoward response. Get hit - and do nothing... Except maybe some empty talk.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
There is only one problem with your arguement, its lousy.
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel So that's your comeback? Now that you have the evidence, it's just "lousy"? I would laugh at your pathos were it not so disgraceful. The evidence is clear to anyone but a moron or a robot programmed to believe that filthy LIAR MacAssKiss:
This whole thing stinks to high heaven. This will go down in history as Scatland's first big crime as an independent nation.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
Want more articles? Google: "Lockerbie bomber still alive." There you go. Start reading and see the disgrace, corruption, injustice and outrage.
I'm not here to do your work for you.
SHAME Scatland! SHAME!
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
You want a source?
Check the Telegraph from July 4, 2010.
"Three months was what we were aiming for. 3 months was the critical point" [For authorizing the bullshit release on "compassionate grounds". Read the article.
Your moral high horse has just been reduced to a sick dog. I suggest you get off of it before your catch the same corrupt disease that afflicts MacAssKiss and the rest of the disgraceful government of Scatland.
And no, I am NOT "moving on..." No justice, no move on...
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
Ok, I asked you to quote your sources... you won't. You claim you have talked to doctors who say you die in 90 days with terminal cancer; thats incorrect.... its 6 months and even that is not exact. So either you are talking to poor doctors or, as I suspect, you are making it up. I did not say Iran was responsible for Lockerbie... show me where I did!
Scotland has large oil deposits; do you not know that?
If it was a corrupt oil deal; Salmond would love to expose that.
Move on.
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel What source do you need? The source is that he is still alive! 1+1=2, hun. It's obvious that there was/is some sort of chicanery here. And even 6 months has elapsed - his "terminal cancer" which was a phoney, bribed joke. How could the doctors make such a huge mistake? Pull your head out of your ass and smell the corruption.
Why do you keep referring to the Iran incident then?
You say "move on" - do you have any sense of justice to the victims of this attack?
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
Without quoting your sources; your rhetoric is meaningless. Its fortunate that most of the other kids that use youtube don't have your turn of phrase, because its out of place in the context of this tradgedy. If you want answers to medical questions, then go ask a doctor. As to describing the Scots as cowards; I don't care, our credentials are quite in order thank you. If you want corruption look at the billions in oil America stole.
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel Yeah, I have asked doctors and they all said the same thing: terminal cancer = DEAD in 90 days! This rat bastard is STILL ALIVE after over a YEAR! Of course MacAssKiss was bribed! Why else would he release this monster?
My "turn of phrase" is because of this disgusting, bribed and corrupt situation. Do you Scats have any sense of justice?
COWARDS. Shame Scatland - SHAME.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
@TheLoyalOfficer No there is clearly another reason for your turn of phrae. Things will get better now that you have got rid of "that retarded cowboy fella" you had as president. I think if the American navy had not blown a civilian airliner out of the sky, this would not have happened and my country would not have to bear this tradgedy. You reap what you sow. Scotland is not going to keep clearing up the mess your country makes. The decision has been made, it is not negotiable.
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel So Iran did the Lockerbie attack? Do you have a shred of proof? No. And even then, how does that justify the bombing of an airliner? The Iran situation was an ACCIDENT, and settled between Iran and the US in 1988. So your moralizing smokescreen is shown for the bullshit fail that it is.
Scatland? Clearing up messes? With phoney diagnoses and corrupt oil deals? How does that clean anything up? If anything, it is the USA cleaning up the messes of the Euro empires.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
Look at this miserable faggot coward. What a disgusting display of faggotude. Yeah, he faces a sentence? He is STILL ALIVE. "He is going to die?" Oh really?
Fucking cowards. This whole video is a disgrace.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
When will you stop talking such dribble.... jpandyaraja?
You ramble on with no evidence and do I have to remind you again that Brown is not Prime Minister of Scotland.... you dolt!
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
@irresistablejewel No evidence? Read the paper about this lately...? It took 10 months, but you are PWND.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
@TheLoyalOfficer which paper do you refer to and whose evidence? I don't recognise your terminology PWND, is it concerning WMD or just some infantile american term. Since you address your comment directly to me; I'll make my position clear. I either live in a country where they will sell their "grandmother" for a barrel of oil; or one that is tired of american duplicity and bully boy tactica. I think its the latter. The constant picking at this open wound by the media is disrespectful
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel Awwww... Feeling disrespected are we? How about the families of the Lockerbie victims! And it is indeed an open wound. Fresh and bleeding, especially considering the fact that the terrorist's "terminal cancer" is a total farce. The allegations of bribery are only natural - why else would these doctors give a phoney diagnosis?
There is no American duplicity here - only Scottish.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
@TheLoyalOfficer Which paper? thats an easy question isn't it?
Its certainly not a Catholic one, as they are attacking America for its culture of vengence.
Whether I feel disrespected or not is irrelevant.
I see no evidence to support what you say. The Scottish executive have made their decision. Its a final decision, as is their right. The matter is closed.
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irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel The matter is closed?? No it's not. Why was he released? He does NOT have terminal cancer. He is STILL ALIVE. Was there an oil deal from Libya in the offing? Was MacAskill bribed? Were the phoney doctors bribed? The evidence is clear - if he had terminal cancer, he would be DEAD by now!
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
irresistablejewel 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel Yeah - "terminal cancer" = DEAD in 90 days. This douchebag is STILL ALIVE. So yeah - the whole thing is fishy. You are FUCKING RETARDED if you think that this phoney diagnosis had no ulterior motives. "Compassionate grounds"? Why isn't he dead then? How does releasing a terrorist under false, bribed pretenses help closure? Maybe for your selfish asses, but not for the victims of this massacre. Please pull your head out of your ass. Wake up and smell the corruption.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
@irresistablejewel "Move on?" Go fuck yourself.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
The scotts have found compassion... they grant it to terrorist........!!! HA! I SAY
HA ! FUCKING kilt wearing eunuchs...
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
The idols I made with my very own hands.
Today are sitting in temples as my gods. lol.
Beeech ka =gay= sha11kti ... Busted.lol now everyone knows.
1098910989 2 years ago
sha11kti is gay=Beeech ka. lol
1098910989 2 years ago
type caste clashes in chennai and see for yourself tsk tsk tsk
1098910989 2 years ago
This proved by Scottish that terrorists are right . I and many others disapprove it . This is injustice to all fighting and dying against terror.
sha11kti 2 years ago
sha11kti is beech ka=gay haha lol... busted
1098910989 2 years ago
Again.... Jack Straw does not have the decision, McAskill does. Brown is no doubt angry because he is a Scot and British PM which equates to a conflict of interest if he expresses an opinion. You really believe you are keeping your country safe by attacking countries for financial reasons. Its obvious that companies like Haliburton are making billions from your phoney wars. This isn't making things safer for anyone. Hopefully Obama can repair some of the damage the Bush dynasty has caused
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
I don't see what Scotland has to explain or apologise for. These are our values and our legal system. The Americans and English, for that matter are fond of telling other countries how to run their affairs. They also like to label their enemys terrorists and themselves warriors. From a Scottish perspective there were no winners only innocent victims. An attempt to draw a line under this tragedy gets the response "So what does Scotland get?" Closure. Now leave us alone.
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
No Scotland doesnt have to appologize. But England would like you to. They used u guys so they could make money and they are making u take the fall.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
im glad the scottish govt didnt cowtow to the wishes of the yanks.afterall they probably caused the bombing in the 1st place well done scotland they are not asskissers to noone we made the modern world we r the father of modern thinking ...snp rule
stevom31 2 years ago
Scoland did not release him for compassion it was for oil. All the evidence leaked out from the British ministry yesterday. its in the news look it up.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
OIL ! it was all about OIL !! Fuck...
If it was me I'd have released the guy for a bag of fucking sugar just to piss off these imperialist yanks - no wait, a cup of sugar, no wait a tea spoon
AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
wow we relased him for oil ? hey we got a pretty good deal , i mean i thought we were gettign nothing for relasing him ecept the joy of pissing off america , but some oil will do nicley i guess ..
scotlaand 2 years ago
U guys wear skirts, eat animal brains, have ugly women and shitty weather. I can see how u guys would want the worst for us.. it all makes sense now. Misery loves company.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
pfftt shut up you america fatboy , honestly you sink to the typical insults of people who are jealous of scotland , ive never wore a kilt in my life , neither has anybody i know under the age of 30 , the women here are pretty decent looking considering half of the women in usa are overweight slobs that come from trailers , the weather here is jsut a little dirizzle of rain followed by sun and a wee bit of wind,you have tornadoes and hurrincanes,all makes sense america livers in denial..its shit
scotlaand 2 years ago
I live in California, we got the most beautiful latina, asian, black and mixed girls in the world beyond any doubt. "Decent looking" just doesnt cut it. I seen Scottish girls, they have SQUARE asses, pale faces with freckles and red hair. Girls aside... You must have no respect or pride for your country. If I was you I would be furious cos England basically made u guys take the fall and made their scapegoat. Your country is taking the fall for Englands covert business agenda.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
Most beautiful girls? Well I think the beach Boys agree with you; but what does that have to do with the Lockerbie tradgedy? Nothing thats what. I doubt this has anything to do with an English oil deal. Show me your proof.
I think you have illustrated the vaccuous nature of American society far better than I could.
Why must I have no respect or pride for my country? and what does ""take the fall" mean... that implies we are guilty of something. Move on.
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
The proof is already leaked from the British Ministry on sunday. How about you read the news and do some research before u start yappin away next time.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
You are wrong, in my opinion. Jack Straw says you are wrong. Alex Salmon says you are wrong. Your assertion that in some way Scotland wanted to help England with an oil deal would be funny, if you didn't both insult my countries integrity and quite possibly the memory of the victims.
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
Your really think your Gov't is lookin out for you? You really believe everything they feed you? You really believe they are not corrupt? They already sold you out countless times like every other Gov't in the world do to their ppl. Its typical politics nowadays, but u act like it could never happen... Get off your high horse and face reality, its happening whether u like it or not.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
I believe this convict was released on compassionate grounds and I support that. Yes I believe the Bush administration was corrupt and that democratic capitalism is fundamentaly flawed. So where is your proof about this alledged oil deal, or are you just yappin' away. I rather think you are.
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
U want links? find em yourself
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
No I want proof and you have none, so get off your high horse, maybe.
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
There have been discussions between the UK and Libya for years over acquiring oil contracts in Libya. Libya would not do business with England unless they released that terrorist. Scotland refused to release him in a prisoner swap deal the Libyans were trying to push so instead they released him on compassionate grounds. This is from your country's news too. "lockerbie letters" Google it.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
You are missing the point. The Scottish and English judicial systems are seperate. The Lockerbie papers you mention are the English governments attempt to prove they did not pressure the Scottish government into some ugly oil deal and not are you suggest proof they did. I don't think you should judge the Scots by your standards
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
The point is the English are using Scotland as a scapegoat. If u cant see it, if u dont believe it, if u dont accept it, IT DOESNT MATTER. Deny it all u want, believe whatever u want to. IT DOESNT CHANGE REALITY.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
Yeah, the reality is you are talking rubbish ITZAMOBB
You should use the word alledgedly when you can't prove something.
Changing the subject slightly.... Isn't yours the country that, in the 21st century, maintains a concentration camp in Cuba; where only 3 people have ever been charged? Thats reality, isn't it?
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
They are terrorists. they can rott in the jail til they die. No one cares except u Anti-American pussies. We should never apologize for keeping our country safe and we shouldn't even be releasing information on how we interrogate the people that want to see our country burn down in flames. Im leaving this thread because I said everything I had to say. U are a little cunt and u cant face reality. I dont give a fuck, I mean at the end of the day you are only lying to yourself.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
The voice of America.... some kid
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
Copied n pasted from a news article:
Britain's foreign secretary said Prime Minister Brown did not want the convicted Lockerbie bomber to die in prison, because it would have a catastrophic effect on British-Libyan relations.
Notes taken during a meeting between British official Bill Rammell and Libya's minister for Europe, Abdulati Alobidi, show Rammell telling the Libyans that neither Mr. Brown nor British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw wanted the bomber to die in prison.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
Continued... The documents also show that Straw decided to include Megrahi in a prisoner transfer deal to help improve ties with Libya. Straw originally excluded the bomber from the deal.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
Brown angrily rejected that interpretation of events: "On our part, there was no conspiracy, no cover-up, no double-dealing, no deal on oil, no attempt to instruct Scottish ministers, no private assurances by me to Colonel Gaddafi."
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
When u lie u angrily reject accusations. When u are tellin the truth u scoff at accusations, u dont get mad
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
where is the proof...? did you read
jack straws admission in this weekend press ? what more do you need ?
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
You mean Jack Straws admission and Gordon Brown denial?.... jpanddyaraja.
I would want MacAskill or Salmon to say it was a trade deal and they are just not saying that.
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
can yôu seriously imagine this taking
place without scotlands implied consent...
okay i would like mcaskill to say..." gentlemen i am completely againt this deal "! lets have it ....
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
Mr Straw insisted on Sunday that the disclosures were a "red herring" as Kenny MacAskill, the Scottish justice minister, made the final decision on Megrahi's release.
Mr Salmond stressed that Megrahi was not released under the prisoner transfer agreement because his administration did not want the decision linked to trade or oil.
Do you mean these admissions?
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
no i mean jack straws blatant admission
that it was guns for butter deal .
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
I can't find this type of admission from Jack Straw.
In any case this the tail wagging the dog. MzcAskill made the decision, not Straw.
Scotland has oil, why do a deal for oil?
This case illustrates a fundamental problem with democtratic capitalism... the need to be re-elected every 5 or so years. It blinkers real decision making.
I don't think MacAskill needs to say any more.... the book is closed.
Start respecting other cultures... find a sustainable power source; or squabble.
irresistablejewel 2 years ago
i live in glasgow yes you get ugly girls but some of the most attractive in the world jsut liek you do in cali , now lets cut the shit.i have no pride for my country? ive spent thousands of pounds following my country accross europe in "soccer" ,with my income that has to be patrotic. another point england made us the fall guy ..duh ,your acting like im suppose to change that ?scotland has always been used by england,but we have always fought back in one way, rmember we only have 5 million peps
scotlaand 2 years ago
Obviously there nothing u can do to change that. but doesnt it make u a little mad that they would do that to u guys? If you really are proud then it should make u furious. Im even mad for u guys
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
look you dont think scottish people are furious of this?you dont think our blood boils about this?it happened on scottish soil and killed a good few scottish civlians and destoryed a village howevr as strange+stupid as it may sound im supporting our govt on this descion,
i never belivied he was guilty,he protestd his innocence every day for 10 years, launchd countles appeal ,our govt knew he was a scapegoat and US pressure meant he was jailed,howver if he was the real bomber he deserved to die
scotlaand 2 years ago
who are you talking to with these verbal attacks?
TheKavosman 2 years ago
Who you talking to crackers2012?
TheKavosman 2 years ago
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TheKavosman 2 years ago
no he want be a hero , that minister....he will
and is being seen as a two timing , money making , hypocritical SOB...you know like all your likes ....make money by exporting goods to america .and then use it to feeling sorry for muslim terrorists ...
who i am sure one day will repeatedly rape your ass...
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
this shows the scots are not fit to govern
themselves........they taste a whif of power
and the first thing they do is grant
compassion to a mass murder....
if they really wanted to be compassionat there were a million other things to do before baling out terrorists...
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
Look, the "evidence" at the original trial was flawed to say the least. The discrepancies at the trial are astounding and a miscarriage of justice took place. Two thirds of experts on Scots law believe it was the right decision. The original prosecutor (Lord advocate Carmyle) believes it was the right decision.
The real issue here is that the yanks are just angry that the Scottish government didn't do it's bidding.
You want mass murderers in jail? Jail the captain of the USS Vincense!
thistlewarrior 2 years ago
granted absolutely , the real culprits
were iranians,,,,,but Ghaddafi wanted
to prove he is a real muslim and in
muslim world that means killing infidels..
innocent westerners or easterners...has the muslim council of britain ...found one
criminal muslim ? no never ...they have
no conciens.....
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
Hang on. If you concede that it was the Iranians then why are you attacking the Scottish government for releasing him?
The Muslim council of Britain is not in existence to "find" criminals, muslim or otherwise. Thats a job for the cops.
I'm sick and tired of hearing people label all muslims as Wetern hating murderers likewise that all Westerners want to kill all muslims. If that is what the respective religions have taught both sides then boths sides be damned.
thistlewarrior 2 years ago
the attacks on Glasgow airports were by muslim terrorists not by american navy..
i didnt see any indignation on your part when that happened......any way it will
need a churchil to see where the real
threat is coming from and IT IS NOT
FROM AMERICA............
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
You're going way off on some bizarre tangent right now. Try and get back onto the subject at hand if you have something to say.
thistlewarrior 2 years ago
the involvment of Iranians does not mean
megrahi and libyans were innocent,,,,
the evidence is fairly solid that this was a joint project planned parllel to berlin bombing...and libya admitted its part when it paid compensation to the victims
you are i am afraid ..rather ignorant on a number of issues here
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
A case of pot, kettle and black here I think. I'm am ignorant on very little of the facts here. You on the other hand have done very well at not answering any questions. Another timewasting youtuber.
thistlewarrior 2 years ago
you want to narrow this down to some local black and white event....i am trying to point out to you the wider backgroung..
for a start read jack straws own admission in this weekends press ....
it was a trade deal with scottish conivance
and had nothing to do with compassion..
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
It was nothing of the kind and you know it. Thats why you're backing yourself into a corner writing things that just simply aren't true. There may or may not have been a trade deal but it was certainly NOT between Scotland and Libya, no way in hell.
thistlewarrior 2 years ago
there may or may not have been a deal......
that alone shows how naive you are......!!
of all things in need of compassion
the scots grant it to a rotting terrorist in
a prison....
come on get real !!!
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
thats not what Brown said this weekend...
he said the decision was made by scottish executive entirly...given that brown
himself is a slimy lair like the scots
we can assume that this was a joint decision....
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
you say you want a proud independent
scotland....well all the power to you...
but dont build that on flimsy anti-americanism......without the yanks the
Germans would have long wiped you any
vestige of Scotland..
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
I'm not going to engage in a pointless argument about who saved who. I have far more respect for the soldiers of ALL sides who died in those conflicts to tarnish their memory slinging ridiculous insults.
There's no "flimsy ant-Americanism" on my part. I can't say the same for your ant-Scottishness though. For days now I've been reading comments on how we've somehow "betrayed" you how you should "boycott" Scotland how we're all "terrorist-lovers". It would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic
thistlewarrior 2 years ago
Is that all you sheep shagging peasants can talk about? Blow it out your arse, sit doon, and have a big hot heaping bowl of haggish. Like I said, it will take some serious arse kissing before I come to your miserable aid, AGAIN! You little piss-ant no bigger than one of the smallest US states think that you can take on the Muslim empire by yourself. GO AHEAD!
crackers2012 2 years ago
Listen all u scots hating cunts. For the record, i'm scottish and i don't think al magrahi should have been released . However, america should stop poking their fuking noses into everything. and as for jpandyaraja, a scotsmens' kilt contains an large brave independant and decisive penis. So fuck off u mug!
TheKavosman 2 years ago
listen Kavosman..do you concede
that even Wallace was betrayed by
Scots closest to him ? do you ?
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
lol - funny as fuck!
Ewenuts 2 years ago
ALso the land of Campbells and Mac donalds that sold thier ass to the
british for a nickel...even Wallace way
betrayed by fucking back stabbing scots...
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
We should send in SAS and a few fighter jets to bring this Megrahi back to UK and put him in strangeways prison with the smelly manks. They will rob with socks and tell him to pick up the soap in the shower.
kingofthekop0151 2 years ago
now we all know what is under
a scottsman kilt.....A COWARDLY
PUSSY.......!!!
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
On the contrary, Kenny MacAskill's got bigger balls than you or most people to make the decision he made.
He sure didn't do it to be popular, but because of his own moral convictions. Doubt you'd follow your convictions, faced with that level of unpopularity.
badegg3210 2 years ago
Fuckin Arsehole. "Wimen and children died. 11 scots died but lets show compassion and let some dune coon murderin bastard free cause hes got ba cancer." I was prayin his plane would go down on the way home. Irony. This was westminster tellin us whats what again anyway. But even if it was, Kenny should fuckin grow a pair and tell them to fuck off. That bastard should have been hung.
SuperAllyPurvey 2 years ago
ah there there Scotland forever compationate there there wee kenny standing up for the underdog your afee brave ,do us all a favour and join him in libya you twat.
edwards21416 2 years ago
he sounds like a f--king priest not a minister .
edwards21416 2 years ago
one scotland no room for rascism or airplane bombers ,boycott Scotland America untill this clown is removed
edwards21416 2 years ago
Do a quick search on the New World Order (NWO = OWN)..And see how deep this rabbit hole goes..
freedombiteback 2 years ago 2
Terrorists who take up arms are mentally prepared to throw away their lives, Al- Megrahi should have died in jail. Those that died didnt even have the luxury of of choice that Al-Megrahi was given. Kenny better watch his back, and his family as there will be a few angry people out there looking for him.
LeLionNoire 2 years ago
Do not blame Scotland or the Scots! this was a British choice that the English have forced through like they always do to bump up a fucked British economy by trade deals. The have used the scottish people as scapegoat - the Scottish people are an ancient and proud people much like us in Ireland. The sooner we can break away from England the better and rebuild what was always ours and stop taking flack for something we did not start. look to England for blame for she is the guilty country.
Ewenuts 2 years ago
It wasnt a British choice, it was the decision of the devolved government of Scotland as westminster dosnt have a say in such matters. It was MacAskill's decision it starts and ends with him.
lol at you trying to blame England. Deluded or what.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
just shows what a prat you are
edwards21416 2 years ago
i dont think MacAskill just wakes up one morning and decided that he will free a mass murderer, it takes a very powerful group of people to do this.
jtozuna 2 years ago
look what all the little terrorist wantabe's have to look up it now kill 100's for jihad and you get release because we feel sorry for him because he's got cancer bloo fucking then give him a homecoming parade like a hero scotland has made him to be GOOD FUCKING JOB, I HOPE U LOSE YOUR JOB
Conservativepacheat 2 years ago
One thing's for sure, whether you think he should have been shown compassion or not, it was a HUGE political mistake by Scotland to allow him to go, they lost everything and gained nothing. And why on earth did they not insist on restraint in Libya BEFORE allowing him to go home, it should have been an absolute condition!?
mahoneko321 2 years ago 3
What a monumental mistake.Cant wait to see what happens soon.I guess the uk will get its backside kicked big time !!!
soundnicetome 2 years ago
The reason he was let out now was to avoid a VERY embarrassing appeal that was coming up. It was going to exposure the whole original trial/Scottish legal system as a joke. Fours years ago the Scottish Justice Dept said 'likely he had a miscarriage of justice'.
ogfunk187 2 years ago
burn in hell macaskill
curvepimpcrew 2 years ago
Long live scotland ..death to America
AngryLibyan 2 years ago
mangielibyan
Long live America....Jewish Plagues to Libya
steveascension 2 years ago
Dont blame your pussy government on america you needle dicked scottish pricks.
GlockMeAmadeus7 2 years ago
don't expect your "government" to have any influence in scottish law just because your a bigger, more powerful country
ToaztBusterz 2 years ago
"an eye for an eye, and soon the whole world will be blind". - Ghandi. you only get two choices in life, you can do whats right or you can do what your told. scotlands government did the right thing thing letting a man' who many people believe is innocent, go home to his family to die, scotland showed all the world the way to treat human beings, we dont behead our captives and post it on the internet like murdering terrorists, we're better than that, compassion not revenge, scotland forever!!
mudfries 2 years ago
I'm sick and tired of hearing yanks spewing their sanctimonious bile over the airwaves, the hypocrites! America needs to look closer to home. Take Orlando Bosch a terrorist who is lauded in Florida. Take Iranair flight 655, blown out of the sky by USS Vincennes whose crew was then awarded. MacAskill made the right decision and as a scot neither I nor anyone else is responsible. If you yanks think otherwise then you are all responsible for all actions of the US Government such as torture.
densaner77 2 years ago
Iran-air 655 failed to heed ships warnings over and over, they were just a blip on the screen. Flying in attack profile,the USS Vincennes had no choice but to defend themselves. It was only moments later they realized a commercial airline was struck. They Cried! This truly was an accident. Megrahi INTENDED to murder people! You say he was innocent. Why did you convict him. Make up your mind. Further more,Scotland refused to extradite to America because we have the death penalty. Think about it!
crackers2012 2 years ago
The ship attempted to hail the plane on commercial / military but not on air traffic signals which is the frequency they were on. Also it was a regular service and the ship was (illegally) inside Iranian waters. When they got home they were awarded and the US to this day refuses to apologise. Megrahi was at best a scapegoat and the Scottish Courts are not infallible. Read about Dr. Jim Swire who lost his daughter. MacAskill made brave decision and if the yanks don't like it :p.
densaner77 2 years ago
That's not true. I might remind you that you are personally accountably for what you say about those crewmen. I don't know what propaganda you have been listening to but you are accountable for what you say. If your a juvenile your parents are responsible. You do not have the money for this but, you will discover how long the arm is for civil litigation. I'm not worried that you will know who I am because you already know me. You might do well to read the defamation part of the U Tube rules.
crackers2012 2 years ago
What part of what I wrote was untrue? The ship WAS inside Iranian waters when it fired. It WAS a regularly scheduled service. The captain DID recieve a commendation after he returned home. To this day the US Government has NOT issued an apology. Which part is untrue? Tell me and I will withdraw my comment. However don't threaten me bully boy yank. Crackers by name... :p
densaner77 2 years ago
The IFF was set for an F-14, the jet was not ascending but descending, the ship was in the Straight of Hormuz and was engaged with Iranian gunboats. Many hales were made on many frequencies INCLUDING the Com-Air! If I were you I would finish school or get at least the equivalent so you could earn something worth losing. It's apparent that you're of lower social order and bitter about it. The Whole world is shocked at MacCaskills decision you're just too obtuse to recognize it...SORRY! LOL
crackers2012 2 years ago
First of all the USS Vincennes illegally pursued those gunboats into Iranian territorial waters. Once in Iranian territorial waters the Vincennes fired twice at the Iranair flight. Even if the Iranair flight had been a fighter the US ship had no right to fire as it was illegally in those waters and any Iranian fighter would have been well within in its rights to attack. Perhaps you should finish school as the surname of the Minister is MacAskill not MacCaskill you yank turd :p.
densaner77 2 years ago
I really don't care about you but, the thousands of Libyans that were at the airport for the heroes welcome do; they were chanting "Death to Scotland"
MacAsskill showed the muslim world weakness. If you can't hear that you snot nosed twit it's the sound of me clapping my hands together for your success. By the way, didn't the name Jack get replaced by Mohammed as the #1 name in the UK? If that were not so sad I'd laugh,oh what the hell LMAO!
crackers2012 2 years ago
I don't care about you either but you should know the history of your own land. The fact that the good old US has supported terrorists and despots the world over. The scumbags who got money because they supported the US foreign policy of the day. The main reason we have islamic fundamentalists running around is because of the US and its greedy policies. If America didn't support Saudi Arabia and instead supported a peace deal with Israel there would less of a problem with the "muslim world".
densaner77 2 years ago
I have the last word! LOL
crackers2012 2 years ago
No you don't! ;p
densaner77 2 years ago
Yes I do! :)
crackers2012 2 years ago
Mmmm... Perhaps you're right.
densaner77 2 years ago
you are dreaming ......unless you convert
to islam the muslims will never leave you in peace.......
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
Most muslims are not the foaming at the mouth nutjobs like Bin Laden and co. They are extremists and the way you deal with any form of extermism is to push it to the margins. If there was a peace deal that created a Palestinian state it would be a big help in salving the West/East split. So long as America and the UK supports Israel and corrupt regimes like Saudi there will never be peace. If you keep a million people in a ghetto without hope don't be surprised if some of them turn to violence!
densaner77 2 years ago
tell me do tibetans resort to violence ..they too have had their land takn away from them so have many others.....armeniens were genocided
africans were mercilessly butchered by
brits....did they go around killing like your
mideast muslims...have you ever
read a typical arab news paper to see
the hate for all things non mulims.. ?
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
The Tibetans regularly protest against the Chinese but any use of violence on their part would be a useless gesture given the power of the PRC. There is a conflict over whether the alleged Armenian "Genocide" took place. Africans like Mugabe have killed more Africans than the Belgian, French, British and Portuguese combined. Most Arab states are corrupt and despotic AND supported by the west. The reason many young arabs hate the west is the fact that we keep their crooked regimes in power!
densaner77 2 years ago
so according to your logic we should also
become as ruthless as PRC...right ?
agreed !!!
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
Jack was replaced by Mohammed...mmm sounds plausible - but hey, didn't George W. Bush get replaced by Mohammed Hussein Obama... pffft
AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
The USA is a terrorist state. It is run by the Jews, who peddle multiculturalism and globalisation as the latest tools in their evil armoury to achieve world domination. Read Mein Kampf and then think ahead, post-communism (which was also invented by filthy Jews as a way of enslaving non-Jews). World peace will only come about when the USA have been destroyed as a world power and Israel rubbed out from the map. It is sad that non-Jews die during this process but we all have to go eventually.
glenpovey 2 years ago
Well done Scotland for standing up to the hypocrisy of the u.s. Is this the same country that harboured i.r.a. terrorist's suspected of attack's on British soil? I have just booked my holiday to Scotland and will using Scottish traders as much as possible for the foreseeable future.
tigerjun27 2 years ago
America is pro-Irish (I hate Irish tho, they are scum IMO and worse than brits) so that is probably why they cool wit the IRA
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
What the fuck have the Irish got to do with this you under educated, under developed, underclass rat bastard.
Ewenuts 2 years ago
U must be half retarded. I was replying to someone who said something about the US harboring the IRA u faggot ass bitch.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
Half retarded if better than the full blown retard that you must be to come out with such bullshit. You think the Irish are scum do you? - Why dont you look out of your shack at your thrid world shit hole and ask yourself: can people in glass houses really throw stones. Now go look after your bananna's or tobacco or whatever it is that you fuckers do - you mango munching rent boy.
Ewenuts 2 years ago
Irish are scum, I worked for an Irish (real Irish) man before and it was the worst experience of my life. I dont live in a shack or in the 3rd world country. I live in an apartment in sunny California. But mangos are my favorite fruit. I'll give you credit for that one!
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
Well dude, if you are going to judge an entire people because you had a shit boss then you are showing just how stupid you really are. Its your fault for putting up with it if you had any balls you would have sorted him out - you act like a pussy you get treated like one. And you end up bitter little fuck the rest of your life - next time a boss gives you shit knock the fucker out - you wont have job but you will feel great and not hate entire countries.
Ewenuts 2 years ago 2
I never said he's the only Irish person I met. Lets just say I dont like most english. irsh scottish or aussie ppl but theres always a few that are cool. I had to put up with it becos i had been looking for a job for about 3 months b4 i got that one. I wasnt finna wait another 3 more. I had 2 jobs which I both lost to the recession. Now im self employed and making double what I made with 2 jobs. LMAO And you were sayin??
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
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AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
ITZDAMOBB you wrote elsewhere "The reason why u guys have extrimsts is because there is no assimilation..." (SIC)
Then you write here "Irish are scum."
You think you're a wee internet sage don't you but then you write stuff straight from your smelly arse.
AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
Internet sage? Maybe thats what u are tryin to be guero.. Im just stating how I feel.
ITZDAMOBB 2 years ago
Well if you state what you feel then you must feel like shit. Perhaps you could change your username to ITZDABIGPIECEOFSHIT
AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
it was the uk goverment
2pac1971to1996rip 2 years ago
How can MacCaskill be so proud to take credit for this?!?!?!
Could it be the #1 name chosen there is no longer Jack but Mohammed? This is a dangerous game you play. You lay with dogs, you get fleas. No good can come from this. I love the Scottish but you have a new brand of jacobite among you.
crackers2012 2 years ago
tjamassey
what should happen to some one who could take your life?.
what is your life worth?
Is it worth less than a months inprisionment for your life.
Thats what each victims of Lockerbie was worth in justice.
shame Scotland shame
steveascension 2 years ago
the victims of Lockerbie divided by the amount of time spent in jail be Megrahi may be less than a month.
but this man has less than 3 months to live so that may only add a few days onto that sum.
and the Scottish justice system says that anyone with a terminal illness is eligible to return to his\her home
so if Megrahi did it (which i strongly doubt) at least we show some compassion were he did not
after all 2 wrongs don't make a right
ToaztBusterz 2 years ago
Toaztbusted
"after all 2 wrongs don't make a right"
So what we can deduce from your comment. Is this, the average life of a Scott is worth only two to three weeks of incarceration for his or her murderer.
Humm, I think your sums are very bad going by world standards. Unless of course this is what the Scottish people expect for their individual worth.
steveascension 2 years ago
firstly Scot as in Scotsman is spelt Scot
secondly i haven't done the sums i just used an example on another post
ToaztBusterz 2 years ago