Rugby league is a much tougher sport. And here's why. I read people saying the hits are more vicious with pads on in NFL. They can't be that vicious with that much fucking padding on. Take your pads off and see how go.
A rugby league team has 17 players that does both offence and defence and play non stop. A NFL team has like 50 players and they still stop the game every 5 seconds. The defence guys in NFL wouldn't be able to do offence and the offence guys wouldn't be able to do defence.
Alright look you fucking idiots!!! I've played both rugby and football not in my backyard but in a league..... They ate both tough and both mean but in rugby I only broke my nose..... But in football Ive gotten two concoctions in only 3 years... Not small big one... Like I said both are tough but football is way tougher because with the padding comes more hard hitting.... And even without it the nfl players well kill a rugby player.... Both are good but I still play football... Grade 12 and I'm
@beastchamp147 me thinks your the fucking idiot!! injurys dont make a sport tougher dickhead the gameplay does and im guessing you never played in a decent league did you? harder men play league its as simple as that you can argue till your blue in the face but the fact is and its been proven that as a sport rugby league is a tougher more physicly demanding sport than nfl
I think the clip says it all. Firstly the NFL boys are the slobs, table tennis players exert more energy. I'd like to see the NFL boys put their body on the line without all the pads and helmets. A league player receives more hits a game then a NFL player would get in his career, not only the hits but distance travelled in a game cements a league players fitness. Then theres the money, what a joke paying millions to someone to catch and run the ball or kick it lol. Yep the video says it all.
@steptoey1 The average NFL game contains 1100-1200 hits, and AF hits are 2-3 times harder than R hits. The average NFL lineman, linbackers, and Runningbacks, take at least 1000 collisions to the head per season. Every AF player in existance has taken many massive hits, without equipment. Equipped hits are much more vicious.
rugby wins all the way american football pussies wi fukn paddin and shit all the rugby players have is a gum shield so they dont lose their teeth and maybe a scrum cap so they dont go all mental if they get hit
what makz nfl shit is that thy hav 2 teams defncv team and a attacking team.. rugby union n rugby league onli hav th guyz on th feild so if thy get fuckd up thy gota get bak up n go agn... nfl onli has set playz thn go of an hav a long rest..
I'm british and I love rugby. After watching this video I can see that NFL is also a brutal and interesting sport. Why is everyone desperate to make the other sport look stupid? Its culture. I like the fact that we have different sports. We brits have got it into our heads that NFL is america's ideo of an "improved" version of rugby when in reality it is a completely different sport. Stop trying to blow the other country down - it would be boring if we both played exactly the same sports.
@jonafromwales i wasnt saying it was any tougher simply explaining to the idiots saying there pussy's wearing helmets and pads! as i said i bet none of them would play without that gear
@tempski101 same again wasnt saying the hits are any harder but theres a damn good reason for the helmets and pads there definitely not pussys, league hits/tackles r more text book everyone knows where the hit will come from and head highs getting lifted past horizontal etc arent allowed, NFL they are.
Awesome video, great hits!! I think they both have there pros and cons and stuff, but when it comes to witnessing huge hits of epic proportion that look like they destroy people NRL is the one to watch.
here's something you guys don't understand, all you rugby boys care about is size and strength, but in football is speed first, then size and strength, if you're trying out for running back, receiver, or secondary defense, you won't even get looked at unless you don't 4.5 or less in 40yd dash. NFL has some of the fastest guys in the world, rugby players could never, never, never hang in the NFL. that's why so many faggots are in european and canadian football league, cuz they can hang i the NFL
@fhhs05 heres what YOU dont understand.. rugby (union and league) has positions also suited for speed.. u wouldnt put a quick guy as one of ur blockers right? no.. u want a massive guy. same thing for the forwards in rugby.. the quick guys are found in the back line. n they still do it all without pads.
@fhhs05 their is more thinking in rugby all round and its all set out the forwards weaken the defence so the speedsters can run around them nfl is luck you cant harldy see anything with the helmets so you use your fat guy to try and block more fat guys so you can run through the middle and throw an ball to the other end no skill hahaha
I'm British and I still think NFL takes more balls than rugby. Some of the hits in NFL would kill most of them rugby players, so that's why they need that padding. I'm not saying the rugby players are any worse or any better I'm just saying the hits are harder in NFL so that's why they wear the padding.
So stop hating on other countries sports, if you don't like it don't type it into the search bar, it's that easy.
@tempski101 Lol. Just shut up now kid. Go and play for an American Football team and then decide. Retards like you shouldn't be given the option to comment on youtube videos.
@Onslaughters And also.. another comment which someone put is true.. American football tackles are usually pads and helmets (The hard shit) hitting anything from your chest down, which is as unprotected as a rugby players.. So whats worse? A guy hitting a guy with his shoulder into the guys ribs? Or a guy hitting a guy with his hard protective armour into the guys ribs?...... Pussies? Gotta laugh kid.
@Onslaughters Pretty obvious I was gonna see a comment exactly like this... I agree with @Jonesee417 here though. Come and play and then we will see about your stupid assed comment.
theres video's of way bigger NFL hits then the ones used, honestly think you cant compare the two, yeah league has big hits but you know where youll be hit from can tackle how ever in NFL as long as you dont grab the face mask or jersey behind the neck. iv never seen a league player be hit from 2 directions flipped into the air do a 360 n a front flip n land on there head. all you guys writing there a pack of pussy with helmets etc i bet theres noway you would play a game without there gear.
@Ian90C I think i agree with you. When you think about how people get tackled in NFL they tend to be in mid flight catching a ball with little momentum and someone with a hell of a lot of momentum comes and nails them in the legs causing them to flip over and the tackle looks like a big hit. In rugby the player usually gets tackled with the ball running with a large amount of momentum towards the tackler so there is no flipping, this doesn't mean the hits are any less powerful.
I've seen AF practices in AUS, their lazy, low intensity, rubbish.
Fyi, Our national teams played at the World Championchips last summer. While USA Rugby was smashed by AUS in the World Cup, at least they scored, unlike your Gridiron squad: watch?v=-pazNLkgeD0 .
the injury rate argument is poor as you cant make any real comparisons as rugby is played globally and i dont think there has been any study to find out what the global injury rate in rugby is.
@bebomac Both parties are guilty of that. Padding and helmets take away most self preservation a player may have. and many rugby teams do train in equipment during the pre season (though not totally identical to the equipment used in AF). Some say the pads are there to prevent injury, but i say if you took them away it would result in far less injuries as it would be played with a lot more caution.
@GrubbySatan1991 No, AF fans are well aware that serious injuries occur in Rugby, it just maddening for AF fans to hear R fans, stupidly, and uninformatively state that the use of equipment, somehow makes AF less brutal. The FACTS, are that injuries are higher in AF, and the hits are much harder. Very few non-American R fans and players have ever experienced fully equipped hits, while every AF players has taken massive hits without equipt. We know the difference, you don't.
@illiniwac1231@GrubbySatan1991 Actually, Romo didn't miss a single game because of his puctured lung. Although I absolutely Hate! the "Cowgirls", I had to give him his props. watch?v=7TojahzQ8W8 .
Or Phil Vickery. During his career, he suffered a shattered cheekbone, broken arm, torn knee ligaments and various strains, sprains, open wounds and shoulder damage and having to cover his face in cellophane in 2007 to prevent scrum pox (a contagious skin infection), three major back operations and a neck operation, which left him in so much pain that he was unable to lift his baby daughter from her cot. Then, in 2009, he injured himself so badly he had to retire from the game.
Its amazing how many AF players seem to have no knowledge of how serious rugby injuries can be. Mike Tindall was captain of the England National Rugby Union Team and suffered a punctured lung, broken ribcage and 2 inch tear in his liver during a game against Wales.
its amazing how many AF players seem to have no knowledge of how serious rugby injuries can be. Mike Tindall was captain of the England National Rugby Union Team and suffered a punctured lung, broken ribcage and 2 inch tear in his liver during a game against Wales.
its amazing how many AF players seem to have no knowledge of how serious rugby injuries can be. Mike Tindall was captain of the England National Rugby Union Team and suffered a punctured lung, broken ribcage and 2 inch tear in his liver during a game against Wales.
its amazing how many AF players seem to have no knowledge of how serious rugby injuries can be. Mike Tindall was captain of the England National Rugby Union Team and suffered a punctured lung, broken ribcage and 2 inch tear in his liver during a game against Wales.
its amazing how many AF players seem to have no knowledge of how serious rugby injuries can be. Mike Tindall was captain of the England National Rugby Union Team and suffered a punctured lung, broken ribcage and 2 inch tear in his liver during a game against Wales.
And btw its chicken shit to constantly pick on the NFL lineman. Can you imagine a league/ union player trying to make a tackle while having to shed blockers? Put them across any nfl o-linemen or d-linemen and give them the "simple" to get to the QB or protect the QB and watch them get put on there ass every single time
I love these comments from ignorant people about football. If having league players on your NFL=superbowl then you better believe the NFL would be all over it, but in reality most wouldn't make any difference in the NFL. Because 2 different skills.
To bebomac, give rugby a go. You might have these stats that say american football is ridiculously tough but my god you'll be begging to crawl back to football after you play a half decent level of rugby in a place like England or new zealend
@brucderihana FYI, If you click on reply or write @name, the person you're commenting to, will get the message in their Inbox.
I watch Rugby quite often, though I actually prefer Union to League. I'm fairly familiar with the rules and laws, as well as the athletes involved. I enjoy the sport.
As for me "crawling back to AF", considering I've had multiple broken bones, concussions, and a lacerated lung, thats doubtful, I've also witnessed a paralyzation.
@brucderihana Unlike Rugby, maximum collision is an object of the game. Training in delivering and receiving high speed collisions, starts the moment a player steps on the field, whether their 7 or 17, and is taught both separately and in conjunction with actual blocking and tackling technique. I have experienced harder hits in high school and college than any pro R player ever will. R players have no clue what a truly life treatening collision, feels like.
can you imagine blockers or defensive linemen in the NFL trying to play a whole game/if not half of rugby league...no timeouts, oxygen masks or breaks fellas!
NFL players would STOMP rugby, NFL players are big rugby players are medium-small just because u play without pads doesn't mean anything and pads actually makes it hurt worst. Ever heard of a stinger????
@FromTheSouth19 And I'm sure you have a "vast" wealth of experience taking hits in helmet and pads! Pfft!
Every AF player in existance has taken massive hits without equipt: watch?v=XQfAXlDH4K4 , watch?v=RT9_VItJV94 .
This is how we know that equipt hits are "far" more brutal.
AF hits are often, potentially life threatening, equipment prevents death, it doesn't stop the pain. Also H&P's costantly impact exposed backs, elbows, ribs, knees, chins, stomachs, etc. Imagine the pain
@FromTheSouth19 Also, despite your apparent belief that R is tougher because they don't wear equipt, AF's outrageously conditioned athletes suffer more injuries, per player than R players, and serious/catastrophic injuries are much highernin AF. Btw, helmets are as much weapon as protection. You are completely clueless.
@Onslaughters hahahaha wow you are stupid. rugby is less dangerous than football. i play rugby so im obviously not bias. nfl players hit 10x harder than rugby players.
@TheCrusader1994 Because they have more confidence with the big plastic bits of armor. If i has armor like that when i played. I would go all balls too.
@TheCrusader1994 No, you are stupid. Firstly, rugby is more dangerous, look up the injury rates. This obviously is from the fact they are unguarded. Secondly NFL hits really aren't harder that rugby hits. Look up some more videos if you want proof. Lastly can I just point out how rugby players are much more skilful at tackling anyway, think about how lighter weight backs can take down a heavy weight forward. In NFL you just rely on power...
@tempski101 no, you are stupid. and you just contradicted yourself. if football hits rely on power and rugby relies on form, then obviously football hits are harder. Injury rates in football and hockey are higher than rugby. I play rugby, its not like im bad mouthing it.
@TheCrusader1994 No, I was just saying how backs tend to tackle with more skill. Obviously forwards hit people hard, just like NFL players! I'm not sure where you're getting the injury facts from though, I thought rugby's were higher but I may be wrong :).
@Onslaughters because the NFL athletic commission is smart, so you don't end your career after 1 season, Rugby boys take so much pride in getting hit with out pad, then you all end up like retards, while NFL players still get to enjoy the passion of football after 15 seasons.
@Onslaughters before you go and start trashing a sport, why not look into it. Armor? you do know what armor is right? its padding and its more of a weapon than for protective use. go read a fucking book you idiot.
@z0mgrugbyreturns yeah the size argument is kinda poor. you wouldnt get anyone coming from a pro rugby background who would make an effective QB, DT or Offensive Linesman. but some positions would have similar physical requirements. a Winger or Centre could make a decent HB, A mobile prop, hooker, lock or flanker could be a decent DE or LB. Mobile Locks and Loosies could convert to TE if they got used to the recieving aspect of the game. and a fullback would make an excellent kick returner.
@GrubbySatan1991 I've done some theorising and I think the most suitable position for a rugby player is FB. I can think of tons of players who would make good FB's(if they could download the skills needed).
There's a good number of Second-Rowers and props in Rugby League who I fancy would be well suited to DE or OL also
@GrubbySatan1991 When Trinity first started doing Haka before games they did in fact try to copy Ka Mate (which is the one new zealand most commonly does) and they were disgracefully bad at it. They've since changed to doing a tongan one.
@GrubbySatan1991 "Helmets off", maybe, but standing across from a large, loud team of helmeted, angry men is a pretty menacing and intimidating sight.
@GrubbySatan1991 yeah it's quite common in new Zealand for high schoolers to be bigger than the pros. Our front row at school out weighed the current all blacks front row by a bout 40 kilo with a hooker weighing 110kg, and both props above 140kg.
@UHtiger Exactly right UH. In Rugby the amateur and semi-pros often has bigger players than the pros. Ben Murdoch-Masila is just one small example of what happens in Rugby and Rugby League, super heavy kids are told that they'll only get a contract if they lose the fat they're carrying.
Because all 2, in fact all 3 sports have different athletic requirements. What works for Rugby doesn't necessarily work for AF and vice versa. So the size argument is a poor one
@bebomac im not surprised. the USA is well known for having a high obesity rate. how many of those players do you think can actually look down and see their own penis?
@GrubbySatan1991 Interesting how you try to shift the focus of the discussion, when your point is destroyed. I guess you think you're somehow insulting me. You've obviosly never been here, and as usual, have a distorted view. Sad.
Same tackles, one like men without pads, then the other with their "pads" on! And rugby players are better athletes as there is very little stoppage time in the entire 80 mins, one break in play! Where is the competition! I think we all know who are harder people as well!
NFL 100% safety padding, Rugby league 100% man without padding and plays non stop for two 40minute halfs with no time-outs. what the hell is with americans and there time out in sports. "everybody STOP i need some time to think about what we did at training last week"
@bebomac HA. i'll search in hamilton, NZ. population 145,000. one pro rugby team. Ben Afeaki 279 lbs Alex Bradley 257lbs Craig Clarke 251lbs Michael Fitzgerald 253lbs Brodie Retallick 266lbs Ben Tamiefuna 295lbs Josh Hohneck 259lbs all big enough to play DE and LB.
@bebomac5 That's a poor argument. Football teams are as big as they are because they're allowed to be. A team that big in Rugby, especially Rugby League, would last 5 minutes.
There's plenty of kids that size in Rugby, you know what they're told? To come back when they've trimmed down. A team of 250 - 300lb behemoths would get 100 points put on them every game, no matter how good their skills are
@z0mgrugbyreturns Allowed to be? Try must be! Rugby fans are so completely ignorant of AF training and conditioning. High school facilities and programs, often rival colleges, and in some cases surpass them. These players are big because their bodies are being pushed to the absolute brink in the gym and on the field, from 14 yrs old. Players are massively strong, fast, and have excellent agility and endurance by their third year. Most of the plyrs I posted are starters.
@bebomac5 I don't recall saying otherwise. What I said - if you'd care to pay attention - is that there's no such benefit or upside to having a rugby team full of 250lb + monsters.
I'm not sure how you're struggling with this argument. You seemingly understand that football players NEED to be that big, why then can you not understand that most Rugby players NEED to be trim?
@z0mgrugbyreturns The difference is the fact that as HS, and college AF players get bigger, their strength, speed, endurance, and agility increase greatly. You will "never" see a high school team as big strong, and fast as NCAA & NFL teams, not even close. You will also rarely see anyone younger than 21 in the NFL, and with good reason.
@bebomac5 Also bebo you're being a little dishonest, or ignorant. Because you haven't even taken into account that Football teams have 45 players playing a game. Rugby doesn't have half of that.
The Trinity Trojans roster has 98 players on it! So even though football has much heavier players the difference is exacerbated by roster size. It's easy to have close to 30 guys over 230lbs when you have a roster of 100 players.
@z0mgrugbyreturns The players are not heavy due to fat, they carry fat because they must, but they bult like little tanks. R fans have such a misconception of AF plyrs, Linemen in particular. You obviously have no clue how hard AF plyrs work. Training is often yr round and brutal. You also have no idea how intense the pressure to make it to the next level is. competition for scholarships is crazy colleges competition for top prospects is even crazier.
@bebomac5 You might be surprised to know that I like and what AF and know all about the freak athletes and the training, from researching and watching(Hard Knocks)
I think you've taken my argument the wrong way. I'm not trying to put down or belittle AF, I'm not trying to put Rugby above it. All I'm doing is explaining that Rugby players could be as big as AF players, but in Rugby it wouldn't be beneficial. Just as in AF being trim isn't beneficial.
@z0mgrugbyreturns Understood. FYI, Hard Knocks is more of an entertainment show, focusing on human interest, they actually show extremely little of what happens in camp from hour to hour, due to coach and organization's requests. They are extremely paranoid about team espionage, which if you know the NFL, is a problem. ESPN's All Access is a more in-depth show, even though it's NCAA, displaying more of actual training camp which is generally 6-10 hrs per day 6-7 days per week.
@bebomac5 Yeah was going to say but ran out of room to acknowledge it was an entertainment show. Never watched All Access, will take a look.
There's no real alternative for either in Rugby. Sports coverage and commercialism is above and beyond the rest of the world in America. Would love some sort of answer to NFL Films
@z0mgrugbyreturns Indeed, a Rugby equivalent to NFL films would be epic, and like NFL Films did, could change the way the sport is viewed and perceived, "in good ways", and make the smart person who does it, very wealthy. It was such a simple idea, just a guy with a camera, who begged the NFL to stand on the sidelines, and make movies "about" the sport, it's emotion, passion, and history, rather than simply "of" the sport. that would be very interesting. watch?v=egLzNsV7OzM .
@bebomac5 There's probably an issue of finance - It's no secret that the wealth of the NFL dwarfs every rugby competition combined.
I'm sure it will happen in time, but I'm not sure when. For the moment there's rare documentaries such as "Living with the Lions" and "South Sydney Story", but they're few and far in between and just not as good.
The NRL(Rugby League) signs a new tv deal soon, I would hope the idea is floated around when negotiations happen.
@z0mgrugbyreturns Might be the perfect time though, for a determined person. Remember NFL Films is a completely independant, and separate company from the NFL. It was started with $3,000, at a time when the NFL was not quite at the same stage of developement the NRL is now. At that time, many NFL teams were "just" breaking even, and players made as much on their regular jobs in the off season, as they did playing. The NFL was not $Big Time$ until the late 70's.
@bebomac5 TBH I can't see the NRL granting an independent individual or company the right to do it unfortunately, for fear of the image of the game being damaged or something silly. If it is to happen I think it will be an official arm of the NRL to do it. Although for other competitions its anyones guess, but I think the NRL and Super Rugby will lead the way in this regard
Then again you never know with the NRL, they nearly negotiated a tv deal with Spike in the USA and blew that
@z0mgrugbyreturns Fyi, your response is a bit out of context, but back to my point. You seemingly don't understand how huge HS FB is in the US, and how intense the pressure is to be bggr, strngr, fstr, bttr. Top HS plyrs are somtimes as famous as some NFL plyrs, and their expoits are big national news:
watch?v=3ddXs5oGIxI , watch?v=xpAO4DxhEp0 The pressure can be unreal.
You severely underetimate AF plyrs stamina and abilities, on all levels. "poor argument", Pfft!
nfl is algud, but rugby AND rugby league have the same players on attack nd defense nd dat what makes it WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more better then nfl nd proof is rugby is played world wide ut nfl is sdill played in america where it shuld stay......
@GrubbySatan1991 What's really funny is that you had to search the "world" to compile a list of big players, I merely had to look up "1" average sized team. Your argument has been miserably crushed. To further illustrate my point, here's a college roster:
Link: w w w. uwbadgers. com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/wis-m-footbl-mtt. html
@bebomac you gonna add the weights of all the running backs, recievers, corners and safeties too? The guys whos weight you listed are linebackers, DE's, Brandon Jacobs (who is an unusually large running back). these guys are the same weight as props, loose forwards, hookers and locks in any pro rugby teams. the others are DT and offensive linesman who are bigger than rugby players, which i stated. and these guys are only playing for around 11 minutes.
@GrubbySatan1991 Actually, I limited the list to players 6'3 and over. Jacobs isn't even the heaviest RB on the Giants, it's Henry Hynoski 6'1 266lb. Just to educate you, Jacobs is heavy for a HB, all FB's are big, there both RB's. Also, several plyrs were TE's. The Giants biggest WR is Ramses Barden 6'6 227lb. It's hilarious that you complain about RB's and WR's, I didn't see you list any tiny Wingers. Lol! Here's the Giant's roster, enjoy! w w w. giants. com/team/roster. html
nice mid man. I live in the Uk and play football, rugby (union and league). IMO to have an opinion on this subject you have to play both, otherwise you dont know shit really. In one season of football ive had more injuries then in my past 6 years of rugby combined. Helmets actually increase the rate of concussions, paralysis and death because there are no rules against high tackles. Dont get me wrong i love rugby and its tought shit, but football is fucking inhuman. Play both, love both. Peace
@GrubbySatan1991 You have a habit of getting into unwinnable fights. Do you know how many of examples of this I could bury you with? Small plyrs collide with massive ones, constantly in AF, and the size differences are greater than is even possible in Rugby. Here are a few more:
@GrubbySatan1991 Fyi, outhitting NCAA or NFL linemen, who are the biggest, strongest, team athletes on the planet, is a rare feat. NCAA and NFL Linemen are often Gigantic, as strong as power lifters, as fast as the average Rugby player, and have excellent endurance. Linemen are generally 280lb-290lb of solid muscle, they carry extra body weight, because otherwise they'd be tossed aside and crushed like a ragdoll. It's a sacrifice they gladly make for success and victory.
@GrubbySatan1991 Census Johnston, a freak? Rugby fans don't know what a freak is! The player here (Mario Williams) was 6'6 295lb in this video: watch?v=SbcmqyKtWew . His teammate, rookie, J.J. Watt is 6'6 290lb: watch?v=szc0xljoqDs . Almost all NFL players are absolute freaks, they have to be.
Ha everyone says AF players are so much bigger than rugby players but its a total myth. the only players that are notably bigger on defence are Defensive tackles (around 290lbs), and there are only 1 or 2 of these on the field at anytime. and Guards, centres and offensive tackles but they are used for blocking. AF players James Harrison 6ft, 242 lbs, Ray Lewis 6ft 1, 250lbs, Patrick Willis 6ft 1, 240lbs, Jared Allen 6ft6, 270lbs, Chad Greenway 6ft 2, 242lbs.
Will Beatty 6'6 319lb, Stacey Andrews 6'6 318lb, Dave Tollefson 6'4 266lb,
Chris Snee 6'3 305lb, Joseph Linval 6'4 323lb, Rocky Bernard 6'3 301lb,
Justin Trattou 6'4 255lb, Tony Ugoh 6'5 301lb, Mitch Petrus 6'3 315lb.
Have you figured out why you're a massive idiot yet?...Let me help you..These players are all on the same team, and there are more! Also, I guarantee you NFL players are stronger and faster than R players who are of equal size.
@GrubbySatan1991 Btw, the average weight for DT's is around 305lb-310lb. You know this info is really easy to find. save yourself some embarrassment, and do some checking before commenting, unless you're simply lying, hoping no one will call you out on it.
League obviously takes more of a man, NFL players hide behind all that armor.
iTzThatBK 4 hours ago
Rugby league is a much tougher sport. And here's why. I read people saying the hits are more vicious with pads on in NFL. They can't be that vicious with that much fucking padding on. Take your pads off and see how go.
A rugby league team has 17 players that does both offence and defence and play non stop. A NFL team has like 50 players and they still stop the game every 5 seconds. The defence guys in NFL wouldn't be able to do offence and the offence guys wouldn't be able to do defence.
Rugb
12BMAN34 4 days ago
@12BMAN34 fuck rugby bitch u mad cause u cant play football quire
jblock1523 3 days ago
@12BMAN34 why not educate yourself in american football before you try to lecture others on it? 70% of all the stuff you just said is wrong
BlueShiftDesigns 3 days ago
Alright look you fucking idiots!!! I've played both rugby and football not in my backyard but in a league..... They ate both tough and both mean but in rugby I only broke my nose..... But in football Ive gotten two concoctions in only 3 years... Not small big one... Like I said both are tough but football is way tougher because with the padding comes more hard hitting.... And even without it the nfl players well kill a rugby player.... Both are good but I still play football... Grade 12 and I'm
beastchamp147 4 days ago
@beastchamp147 me thinks your the fucking idiot!! injurys dont make a sport tougher dickhead the gameplay does and im guessing you never played in a decent league did you? harder men play league its as simple as that you can argue till your blue in the face but the fact is and its been proven that as a sport rugby league is a tougher more physicly demanding sport than nfl
MrCampkill 10 hours ago
@MrCampkill
Proven by who? Where can we find this "conclusive" evidence? When did this exhaustive study take place? Please, show us your proof.
Btw, NFL is not a sport.
bebomac5 6 hours ago
Rugby's gay Footballs tougher
ScrewLSU 5 days ago
@ScrewLSU i agree
jblock1523 3 days ago
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The Man, Slammin' Sam Thaiday featured a couple of times there - good stuff.
Also, I love how the seppos try to justify it, but any way you look at it, the soft cocks wear padding and helmets.
TheFurryClam 6 days ago
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DavidPayne81 6 days ago
Rugby league is the toughest sport in the world
teimana100 1 week ago 2
@teimana100 True that. No brain, just balls.
StoneColdAxe 1 week ago
Ray Lewis and James Harrison send people out of games with pads easily, imagine them without it. Damn.
SurfinHollister 1 week ago
@darkermandeeper yes I'm aware of that. Don't you think if that guy was as athletic as patrick willis he would have a shot in the nfl?
or are you about to tell me rugby players dont do it for the money
tamzokes 1 week ago
Rugby is for a way more tougher sport, you have to be way fitter...
capacachi 1 week ago
HAHAHA AMERCAN FOOTBALL IS WHAT BELLENDS PLAY . REAL FOOTBALL IS SOCCER AND RUGBY YOU YANKS HAHAHA
EVILIMPERIALISM23 1 week ago
They're two different sports... no one will win this argument... just enjoy both :D
FlyingPlatypusFury 1 week ago
youtube.com/watch?v=nC_sCkDOE4Q&feature=related
steptoey1 1 week ago
I think the clip says it all. Firstly the NFL boys are the slobs, table tennis players exert more energy. I'd like to see the NFL boys put their body on the line without all the pads and helmets. A league player receives more hits a game then a NFL player would get in his career, not only the hits but distance travelled in a game cements a league players fitness. Then theres the money, what a joke paying millions to someone to catch and run the ball or kick it lol. Yep the video says it all.
steptoey1 1 week ago
@steptoey1 The average NFL game contains 1100-1200 hits, and AF hits are 2-3 times harder than R hits. The average NFL lineman, linbackers, and Runningbacks, take at least 1000 collisions to the head per season. Every AF player in existance has taken many massive hits, without equipment. Equipped hits are much more vicious.
bebomac5 1 week ago
Patrick willis would eat up any ruby player and mike vick Adrian Peterson shady mccoy would burn these slobs
tamzokes 1 week ago
@tamzokes nope
ThatEnglishGuy100 1 week ago
@tamzokes Line that cunt Willis up against Reuben Wiki. He'll get dropped even with his pussy padding and helmet on.
Darkermandeeper 1 week ago
@Darkermandeeper i hope "reuben wiki" isnt the most athletic rugby players...
please people stop comparing nfl and rugby...start comparing D1 college football players to rugby
tamzokes 1 week ago
@tamzokes Reuben Wiki is a Rugby League player
Darkermandeeper 1 week ago
Both are MEAN, im a League lover but you gotta respect the NFL athletes, imagine Ray Lewis as a second rower....
TONKAsevnty7 2 weeks ago
rugby looks mean
sams11074156 2 weeks ago
yea... rugby winz by miles
sams11074156 2 weeks ago
rugby wins all the way american football pussies wi fukn paddin and shit all the rugby players have is a gum shield so they dont lose their teeth and maybe a scrum cap so they dont go all mental if they get hit
redduckboy 2 weeks ago
can't we just agree with 1 thing-that the ball is the right shape unlike football-(soccer football)
zamissocool 2 weeks ago
what makz nfl shit is that thy hav 2 teams defncv team and a attacking team.. rugby union n rugby league onli hav th guyz on th feild so if thy get fuckd up thy gota get bak up n go agn... nfl onli has set playz thn go of an hav a long rest..
lole19841 2 weeks ago
I'm british and I love rugby. After watching this video I can see that NFL is also a brutal and interesting sport. Why is everyone desperate to make the other sport look stupid? Its culture. I like the fact that we have different sports. We brits have got it into our heads that NFL is america's ideo of an "improved" version of rugby when in reality it is a completely different sport. Stop trying to blow the other country down - it would be boring if we both played exactly the same sports.
taharker 2 weeks ago
HAHAHAHA RUGBY WINS HAHAHA NFL IS GAY
wardogofentchantment 2 weeks ago
@jonafromwales i wasnt saying it was any tougher simply explaining to the idiots saying there pussy's wearing helmets and pads! as i said i bet none of them would play without that gear
@tempski101 same again wasnt saying the hits are any harder but theres a damn good reason for the helmets and pads there definitely not pussys, league hits/tackles r more text book everyone knows where the hit will come from and head highs getting lifted past horizontal etc arent allowed, NFL they are.
Ian90C 3 weeks ago
Awesome video, great hits!! I think they both have there pros and cons and stuff, but when it comes to witnessing huge hits of epic proportion that look like they destroy people NRL is the one to watch.
latemate10 3 weeks ago
here's something you guys don't understand, all you rugby boys care about is size and strength, but in football is speed first, then size and strength, if you're trying out for running back, receiver, or secondary defense, you won't even get looked at unless you don't 4.5 or less in 40yd dash. NFL has some of the fastest guys in the world, rugby players could never, never, never hang in the NFL. that's why so many faggots are in european and canadian football league, cuz they can hang i the NFL
fhhs05 3 weeks ago
@fhhs05 heres what YOU dont understand.. rugby (union and league) has positions also suited for speed.. u wouldnt put a quick guy as one of ur blockers right? no.. u want a massive guy. same thing for the forwards in rugby.. the quick guys are found in the back line. n they still do it all without pads.
bompp 3 weeks ago
@fhhs05 their is more thinking in rugby all round and its all set out the forwards weaken the defence so the speedsters can run around them nfl is luck you cant harldy see anything with the helmets so you use your fat guy to try and block more fat guys so you can run through the middle and throw an ball to the other end no skill hahaha
wardogofentchantment 2 weeks ago
@fhhs05 Rugby boys would drop any fast player in the NFL. Thats handy huh?
Onslaughters 2 weeks ago
I'm British and I still think NFL takes more balls than rugby. Some of the hits in NFL would kill most of them rugby players, so that's why they need that padding. I'm not saying the rugby players are any worse or any better I'm just saying the hits are harder in NFL so that's why they wear the padding.
So stop hating on other countries sports, if you don't like it don't type it into the search bar, it's that easy.
TheAdz777 3 weeks ago
@TheAdz777 They hit hard because they have the armor to do so.
Onslaughters 3 weeks ago
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@tempski101 Lol. Just shut up now kid. Go and play for an American Football team and then decide. Retards like you shouldn't be given the option to comment on youtube videos.
nate2302 3 weeks ago
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@Onslaughters And also.. another comment which someone put is true.. American football tackles are usually pads and helmets (The hard shit) hitting anything from your chest down, which is as unprotected as a rugby players.. So whats worse? A guy hitting a guy with his shoulder into the guys ribs? Or a guy hitting a guy with his hard protective armour into the guys ribs?...... Pussies? Gotta laugh kid.
nate2302 3 weeks ago
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@Onslaughters Pretty obvious I was gonna see a comment exactly like this... I agree with @Jonesee417 here though. Come and play and then we will see about your stupid assed comment.
nate2302 3 weeks ago
In football you mainly get hit where you don't have pads. With rugby is just soft flesh and bone.
1212outdoorsguy 3 weeks ago
In america we have guns. Men. And freedom. In australia y'all have kangaroos
1212outdoorsguy 3 weeks ago
theres video's of way bigger NFL hits then the ones used, honestly think you cant compare the two, yeah league has big hits but you know where youll be hit from can tackle how ever in NFL as long as you dont grab the face mask or jersey behind the neck. iv never seen a league player be hit from 2 directions flipped into the air do a 360 n a front flip n land on there head. all you guys writing there a pack of pussy with helmets etc i bet theres noway you would play a game without there gear.
Ian90C 3 weeks ago
@Ian90C Yeah it's a tough sport but no tougher than rugby. I think that's fair to say.
jonafromwales 3 weeks ago
@Ian90C I think i agree with you. When you think about how people get tackled in NFL they tend to be in mid flight catching a ball with little momentum and someone with a hell of a lot of momentum comes and nails them in the legs causing them to flip over and the tackle looks like a big hit. In rugby the player usually gets tackled with the ball running with a large amount of momentum towards the tackler so there is no flipping, this doesn't mean the hits are any less powerful.
tempski101 3 weeks ago
@tempski101 You,re describing maybe 5% of AF tackles. Maybe you should watch actual games, instead of just big hit highlights.
bebomac5 3 weeks ago
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@potentscrotem
I've seen AF practices in AUS, their lazy, low intensity, rubbish.
Fyi, Our national teams played at the World Championchips last summer. While USA Rugby was smashed by AUS in the World Cup, at least they scored, unlike your Gridiron squad: watch?v=-pazNLkgeD0 .
bebomac5 3 weeks ago
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bebomac5 3 weeks ago
the injury rate argument is poor as you cant make any real comparisons as rugby is played globally and i dont think there has been any study to find out what the global injury rate in rugby is.
kazzieCrazzie 3 weeks ago
both sports are good but Rugby looks more tuff cause they don't wear pads but they are both good
sompravv 3 weeks ago
The guy who made this video couldn't have picked more crappier hits for the NFL.
I mean, really?
HurtsWhenYouLaugh 3 weeks ago
Rugby is the toughest game on Earth! PS (I do prefer Union over League!)
centurion869 3 weeks ago
@akwardpolo1 for what?
GrubbySatan1991 4 weeks ago
Doesn't matter who's the pussy, surely its about having fun?
hazzzamatazzz 4 weeks ago
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Respect for these 2 and for Hockey, Australian Football. the hardest team sports in the world.
If you think that some of these sports is for pussies, try to play it in a club, not in your backyard.
airmagol 1 month ago
Respect for these 2 and for Hockey, Australian Football. the hardest team sports in the world.
If you think that some of these sports is for pussies, try to play it in a club, not in your backyard.
airmagol 1 month ago
some day soon you wont be able to tackle a player above the neck in NFL, nor will you be able to take out an airbourne player.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 Will never happen.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@bebomac Both parties are guilty of that. Padding and helmets take away most self preservation a player may have. and many rugby teams do train in equipment during the pre season (though not totally identical to the equipment used in AF). Some say the pads are there to prevent injury, but i say if you took them away it would result in far less injuries as it would be played with a lot more caution.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@illiniwac i know that. there are some very serious injuries in AF, but AF fans seem to think that serious injuries dont occur at all in rugby.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 No, AF fans are well aware that serious injuries occur in Rugby, it just maddening for AF fans to hear R fans, stupidly, and uninformatively state that the use of equipment, somehow makes AF less brutal. The FACTS, are that injuries are higher in AF, and the hits are much harder. Very few non-American R fans and players have ever experienced fully equipped hits, while every AF players has taken massive hits without equipt. We know the difference, you don't.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 Tony Romo got a punctured lung and broken ribcage in a game a few months ago, and he was back playing a couple weeks after.
illiniwac1231 1 month ago
@illiniwac1231 @GrubbySatan1991 Actually, Romo didn't miss a single game because of his puctured lung. Although I absolutely Hate! the "Cowgirls", I had to give him his props. watch?v=7TojahzQ8W8 .
bebomac5 1 month ago
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bennykapesi11 1 month ago
Or Phil Vickery. During his career, he suffered a shattered cheekbone, broken arm, torn knee ligaments and various strains, sprains, open wounds and shoulder damage and having to cover his face in cellophane in 2007 to prevent scrum pox (a contagious skin infection), three major back operations and a neck operation, which left him in so much pain that he was unable to lift his baby daughter from her cot. Then, in 2009, he injured himself so badly he had to retire from the game.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
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Its amazing how many AF players seem to have no knowledge of how serious rugby injuries can be. Mike Tindall was captain of the England National Rugby Union Team and suffered a punctured lung, broken ribcage and 2 inch tear in his liver during a game against Wales.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
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its amazing how many AF players seem to have no knowledge of how serious rugby injuries can be. Mike Tindall was captain of the England National Rugby Union Team and suffered a punctured lung, broken ribcage and 2 inch tear in his liver during a game against Wales.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
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its amazing how many AF players seem to have no knowledge of how serious rugby injuries can be. Mike Tindall was captain of the England National Rugby Union Team and suffered a punctured lung, broken ribcage and 2 inch tear in his liver during a game against Wales.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
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its amazing how many AF players seem to have no knowledge of how serious rugby injuries can be. Mike Tindall was captain of the England National Rugby Union Team and suffered a punctured lung, broken ribcage and 2 inch tear in his liver during a game against Wales.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
its amazing how many AF players seem to have no knowledge of how serious rugby injuries can be. Mike Tindall was captain of the England National Rugby Union Team and suffered a punctured lung, broken ribcage and 2 inch tear in his liver during a game against Wales.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
both really good games but league will always be my number one game
SuperMinto2566 1 month ago
And btw its chicken shit to constantly pick on the NFL lineman. Can you imagine a league/ union player trying to make a tackle while having to shed blockers? Put them across any nfl o-linemen or d-linemen and give them the "simple" to get to the QB or protect the QB and watch them get put on there ass every single time
91gt306 1 month ago
I love these comments from ignorant people about football. If having league players on your NFL=superbowl then you better believe the NFL would be all over it, but in reality most wouldn't make any difference in the NFL. Because 2 different skills.
91gt306 1 month ago
To bebomac, give rugby a go. You might have these stats that say american football is ridiculously tough but my god you'll be begging to crawl back to football after you play a half decent level of rugby in a place like England or new zealend
brucderihana 1 month ago
@brucderihana FYI, If you click on reply or write @name, the person you're commenting to, will get the message in their Inbox.
I watch Rugby quite often, though I actually prefer Union to League. I'm fairly familiar with the rules and laws, as well as the athletes involved. I enjoy the sport.
As for me "crawling back to AF", considering I've had multiple broken bones, concussions, and a lacerated lung, thats doubtful, I've also witnessed a paralyzation.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@brucderihana Unlike Rugby, maximum collision is an object of the game. Training in delivering and receiving high speed collisions, starts the moment a player steps on the field, whether their 7 or 17, and is taught both separately and in conjunction with actual blocking and tackling technique. I have experienced harder hits in high school and college than any pro R player ever will. R players have no clue what a truly life treatening collision, feels like.
bebomac5 1 month ago
can you imagine blockers or defensive linemen in the NFL trying to play a whole game/if not half of rugby league...no timeouts, oxygen masks or breaks fellas!
speegz11 1 month ago
/watch?v=Id7Nl_1f9ek
speegz11 1 month ago
@Onslaghters
@branhayes17
you are both wrong.
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skulllegend96 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 thank you lol
akwardpolo1 1 month ago
NFL players would STOMP rugby, NFL players are big rugby players are medium-small just because u play without pads doesn't mean anything and pads actually makes it hurt worst. Ever heard of a stinger????
branhayes17 1 month ago
@branhayes17 "pads make it worse" HAHAHAHAAHA You're full of shit, they have them because it dampens blows.
FromTheSouth19 1 month ago
@FromTheSouth19 And I'm sure you have a "vast" wealth of experience taking hits in helmet and pads! Pfft!
Every AF player in existance has taken massive hits without equipt: watch?v=XQfAXlDH4K4 , watch?v=RT9_VItJV94 .
This is how we know that equipt hits are "far" more brutal.
AF hits are often, potentially life threatening, equipment prevents death, it doesn't stop the pain. Also H&P's costantly impact exposed backs, elbows, ribs, knees, chins, stomachs, etc. Imagine the pain
bebomac5 1 month ago
@FromTheSouth19 Also, despite your apparent belief that R is tougher because they don't wear equipt, AF's outrageously conditioned athletes suffer more injuries, per player than R players, and serious/catastrophic injuries are much highernin AF. Btw, helmets are as much weapon as protection. You are completely clueless.
bebomac5 1 month ago
Rugby is more epic than US football
MsPapeRock 1 month ago
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MsPapeRock 1 month ago
Rugby players would stomp NFL players. Pussy's cant take a hit without some armor on. Grow some balls
Onslaughters 1 month ago 2
@Onslaughters rugby would get stomped on it hurts more with pads on i would know
VolcomSk8erDude1 1 month ago
@Onslaughters hahahaha wow you are stupid. rugby is less dangerous than football. i play rugby so im obviously not bias. nfl players hit 10x harder than rugby players.
TheCrusader1994 3 weeks ago
@TheCrusader1994 Because they have more confidence with the big plastic bits of armor. If i has armor like that when i played. I would go all balls too.
Onslaughters 3 weeks ago
@TheCrusader1994 No, you are stupid. Firstly, rugby is more dangerous, look up the injury rates. This obviously is from the fact they are unguarded. Secondly NFL hits really aren't harder that rugby hits. Look up some more videos if you want proof. Lastly can I just point out how rugby players are much more skilful at tackling anyway, think about how lighter weight backs can take down a heavy weight forward. In NFL you just rely on power...
tempski101 3 weeks ago
@tempski101 no, you are stupid. and you just contradicted yourself. if football hits rely on power and rugby relies on form, then obviously football hits are harder. Injury rates in football and hockey are higher than rugby. I play rugby, its not like im bad mouthing it.
TheCrusader1994 3 weeks ago
@TheCrusader1994 No, I was just saying how backs tend to tackle with more skill. Obviously forwards hit people hard, just like NFL players! I'm not sure where you're getting the injury facts from though, I thought rugby's were higher but I may be wrong :).
tempski101 3 weeks ago
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Jazzyyx 3 weeks ago
@Onslaughters Don't hate on something you know nothing about.
Jonesee417 3 weeks ago
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Jazzyyx 3 weeks ago
@Onslaughters because the NFL athletic commission is smart, so you don't end your career after 1 season, Rugby boys take so much pride in getting hit with out pad, then you all end up like retards, while NFL players still get to enjoy the passion of football after 15 seasons.
fhhs05 3 weeks ago
@fhhs05 i played league for 15 years.. long term injuries = 0. all u r saying there is if YOU got hit without pads it would be all over.
bompp 3 weeks ago
@bompp i'm sure you did....i smell bullshit
fhhs05 1 week ago
@Onslaughters before you go and start trashing a sport, why not look into it. Armor? you do know what armor is right? its padding and its more of a weapon than for protective use. go read a fucking book you idiot.
WTFStarcraft2 2 weeks ago
@WTFStarcraft2 Girls use pads for their periods.... Shiet.
Onslaughters 2 weeks ago
rugby is just as hard but with out any pads helmets ect. i would say their pretty equal but ruby doesn't where pads so yeah i have to go with rugby
BooGSkiMSuRFSK8BiKE 1 month ago
Nfl would stomp on these rugby players
VolcomSk8erDude1 1 month ago
@VolcomSk8erDude1 you wish buddy.
Toyotacamryboy 1 month ago
@bebomac na bro the facial expressions in any haka are what makes them intimidating. like when their eyes roll backwards into their skulls.
kazzieCrazzie 1 month ago
I play American Football
dEMoniac221 1 month ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns yeah the size argument is kinda poor. you wouldnt get anyone coming from a pro rugby background who would make an effective QB, DT or Offensive Linesman. but some positions would have similar physical requirements. a Winger or Centre could make a decent HB, A mobile prop, hooker, lock or flanker could be a decent DE or LB. Mobile Locks and Loosies could convert to TE if they got used to the recieving aspect of the game. and a fullback would make an excellent kick returner.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 I've done some theorising and I think the most suitable position for a rugby player is FB. I can think of tons of players who would make good FB's(if they could download the skills needed).
There's a good number of Second-Rowers and props in Rugby League who I fancy would be well suited to DE or OL also
z0mgrugbyreturns 1 month ago
@bebomac apologies mate wasnt aware of that. good on them for being proud of their heritage. they should do it with their helmets off though.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 When Trinity first started doing Haka before games they did in fact try to copy Ka Mate (which is the one new zealand most commonly does) and they were disgracefully bad at it. They've since changed to doing a tongan one.
UHtiger 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 "Helmets off", maybe, but standing across from a large, loud team of helmeted, angry men is a pretty menacing and intimidating sight.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 yeah it's quite common in new Zealand for high schoolers to be bigger than the pros. Our front row at school out weighed the current all blacks front row by a bout 40 kilo with a hooker weighing 110kg, and both props above 140kg.
UHtiger 1 month ago
@UHtiger Exactly right UH. In Rugby the amateur and semi-pros often has bigger players than the pros. Ben Murdoch-Masila is just one small example of what happens in Rugby and Rugby League, super heavy kids are told that they'll only get a contract if they lose the fat they're carrying.
Because all 2, in fact all 3 sports have different athletic requirements. What works for Rugby doesn't necessarily work for AF and vice versa. So the size argument is a poor one
z0mgrugbyreturns 1 month ago
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@bebomac these Boys play for Wesley College (our college is american high school) and they are bigger than the All Blacks
h t t p : / / w w w .nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10634410
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GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@bebomac ha lol i see they attempted a haka. i bet that looked fucking ridiculous.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 As you may or may not have notice, the chant is Tongan, as that is the largest Tongan community in the US.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@bebomac im not surprised. the USA is well known for having a high obesity rate. how many of those players do you think can actually look down and see their own penis?
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 Interesting how you try to shift the focus of the discussion, when your point is destroyed. I guess you think you're somehow insulting me. You've obviosly never been here, and as usual, have a distorted view. Sad.
bebomac5 1 month ago
LMFAO!!! NRL WOULD BUST A CAP IN NFL.
MrDeeAstronomical 1 month ago
Same tackles, one like men without pads, then the other with their "pads" on! And rugby players are better athletes as there is very little stoppage time in the entire 80 mins, one break in play! Where is the competition! I think we all know who are harder people as well!
Trolololololllololllololol
vidmasterofworld 1 month ago
NFL 100% safety padding, Rugby league 100% man without padding and plays non stop for two 40minute halfs with no time-outs. what the hell is with americans and there time out in sports. "everybody STOP i need some time to think about what we did at training last week"
AussieShagga 1 month ago
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 Hahaha! Lol!...Anyway!
Gaius Vaenuku 6'4 244lbs, Andreu Kirby 6'2 347lbs, Selesi Uhatafe 6'4 287lbs,
Will Taylor 6'3 266lbs, Wawa Leota 6'0 255lbs, Calon Bibbs 6'2 308lbs,
Sean Kogucz 6'2 256lbs, Polo Manukainiu 6'6 266lbs, Henry Lea'aetoa 6'2 289lbs,
Robert Cone 6'0 250lbs, Hiva Lutui 6'2 275lbs, Gage Douglas 5'11 296lbs,
Richard Lolohea 5'11 284lbs, Gage Clements 6'0 250lbs, Brian Fief 5'10 245lbs,
David Latu 5'9 262lbs, Dillon Dillard 5'11 260lbs.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 Continued...Lol!!..
Teddy Moore 5'9 276lbs, Folau Mose 6'1 302lbs, Josh Benstowe 5'10 252lbs,
Samiuela Tevi 6'5 255lbs, Maika Kneubuhl 5'11 267lbs, Tomi Finau 5'11 261lbs,
Tim Kaufusi 5'11 244lbs, Hafoka Olie 5'10 250lbs, Moahengi Latu 5'10 250lbs,
Cody Mayfield 6'0 246lbs, Austin Lequire 5'11 238lbs, Shakir Iga 6'0 234lbs.
The Trinity Trojans Euless, Texas USA. Population 46,005
"One" "High School" Football Team! watch?v=QnaK8bJ9dDw
1000's more HS's
bebomac5 1 month ago
@bebomac5 That's a poor argument. Football teams are as big as they are because they're allowed to be. A team that big in Rugby, especially Rugby League, would last 5 minutes.
There's plenty of kids that size in Rugby, you know what they're told? To come back when they've trimmed down. A team of 250 - 300lb behemoths would get 100 points put on them every game, no matter how good their skills are
z0mgrugbyreturns 1 month ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns Allowed to be? Try must be! Rugby fans are so completely ignorant of AF training and conditioning. High school facilities and programs, often rival colleges, and in some cases surpass them. These players are big because their bodies are being pushed to the absolute brink in the gym and on the field, from 14 yrs old. Players are massively strong, fast, and have excellent agility and endurance by their third year. Most of the plyrs I posted are starters.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@bebomac5 I don't recall saying otherwise. What I said - if you'd care to pay attention - is that there's no such benefit or upside to having a rugby team full of 250lb + monsters.
I'm not sure how you're struggling with this argument. You seemingly understand that football players NEED to be that big, why then can you not understand that most Rugby players NEED to be trim?
z0mgrugbyreturns 1 month ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns The difference is the fact that as HS, and college AF players get bigger, their strength, speed, endurance, and agility increase greatly. You will "never" see a high school team as big strong, and fast as NCAA & NFL teams, not even close. You will also rarely see anyone younger than 21 in the NFL, and with good reason.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@bebomac5 Also bebo you're being a little dishonest, or ignorant. Because you haven't even taken into account that Football teams have 45 players playing a game. Rugby doesn't have half of that.
The Trinity Trojans roster has 98 players on it! So even though football has much heavier players the difference is exacerbated by roster size. It's easy to have close to 30 guys over 230lbs when you have a roster of 100 players.
z0mgrugbyreturns 1 month ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns The players are not heavy due to fat, they carry fat because they must, but they bult like little tanks. R fans have such a misconception of AF plyrs, Linemen in particular. You obviously have no clue how hard AF plyrs work. Training is often yr round and brutal. You also have no idea how intense the pressure to make it to the next level is. competition for scholarships is crazy colleges competition for top prospects is even crazier.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@bebomac5 You might be surprised to know that I like and what AF and know all about the freak athletes and the training, from researching and watching(Hard Knocks)
I think you've taken my argument the wrong way. I'm not trying to put down or belittle AF, I'm not trying to put Rugby above it. All I'm doing is explaining that Rugby players could be as big as AF players, but in Rugby it wouldn't be beneficial. Just as in AF being trim isn't beneficial.
z0mgrugbyreturns 1 month ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns Understood. FYI, Hard Knocks is more of an entertainment show, focusing on human interest, they actually show extremely little of what happens in camp from hour to hour, due to coach and organization's requests. They are extremely paranoid about team espionage, which if you know the NFL, is a problem. ESPN's All Access is a more in-depth show, even though it's NCAA, displaying more of actual training camp which is generally 6-10 hrs per day 6-7 days per week.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@bebomac5 Yeah was going to say but ran out of room to acknowledge it was an entertainment show. Never watched All Access, will take a look.
There's no real alternative for either in Rugby. Sports coverage and commercialism is above and beyond the rest of the world in America. Would love some sort of answer to NFL Films
z0mgrugbyreturns 1 month ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns Indeed, a Rugby equivalent to NFL films would be epic, and like NFL Films did, could change the way the sport is viewed and perceived, "in good ways", and make the smart person who does it, very wealthy. It was such a simple idea, just a guy with a camera, who begged the NFL to stand on the sidelines, and make movies "about" the sport, it's emotion, passion, and history, rather than simply "of" the sport. that would be very interesting. watch?v=egLzNsV7OzM .
bebomac5 1 month ago 3
@bebomac5 There's probably an issue of finance - It's no secret that the wealth of the NFL dwarfs every rugby competition combined.
I'm sure it will happen in time, but I'm not sure when. For the moment there's rare documentaries such as "Living with the Lions" and "South Sydney Story", but they're few and far in between and just not as good.
The NRL(Rugby League) signs a new tv deal soon, I would hope the idea is floated around when negotiations happen.
z0mgrugbyreturns 1 month ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns Might be the perfect time though, for a determined person. Remember NFL Films is a completely independant, and separate company from the NFL. It was started with $3,000, at a time when the NFL was not quite at the same stage of developement the NRL is now. At that time, many NFL teams were "just" breaking even, and players made as much on their regular jobs in the off season, as they did playing. The NFL was not $Big Time$ until the late 70's.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@bebomac5 TBH I can't see the NRL granting an independent individual or company the right to do it unfortunately, for fear of the image of the game being damaged or something silly. If it is to happen I think it will be an official arm of the NRL to do it. Although for other competitions its anyones guess, but I think the NRL and Super Rugby will lead the way in this regard
Then again you never know with the NRL, they nearly negotiated a tv deal with Spike in the USA and blew that
z0mgrugbyreturns 1 month ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns Fyi, your response is a bit out of context, but back to my point. You seemingly don't understand how huge HS FB is in the US, and how intense the pressure is to be bggr, strngr, fstr, bttr. Top HS plyrs are somtimes as famous as some NFL plyrs, and their expoits are big national news:
watch?v=3ddXs5oGIxI , watch?v=xpAO4DxhEp0 The pressure can be unreal.
You severely underetimate AF plyrs stamina and abilities, on all levels. "poor argument", Pfft!
bebomac5 1 month ago
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GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
nfl is algud, but rugby AND rugby league have the same players on attack nd defense nd dat what makes it WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more better then nfl nd proof is rugby is played world wide ut nfl is sdill played in america where it shuld stay......
DEZARSDA 1 month ago
@bebomac if rugby players were expected to only play 6 minutes of actual gametime than there would probably be more of them weighing 300lbs +.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 What's really funny is that you had to search the "world" to compile a list of big players, I merely had to look up "1" average sized team. Your argument has been miserably crushed. To further illustrate my point, here's a college roster:
Link: w w w. uwbadgers. com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/wis-m-footbl-mtt. html
There's just no comparison.
bebomac5 1 month ago
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GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@bebomac you gonna add the weights of all the running backs, recievers, corners and safeties too? The guys whos weight you listed are linebackers, DE's, Brandon Jacobs (who is an unusually large running back). these guys are the same weight as props, loose forwards, hookers and locks in any pro rugby teams. the others are DT and offensive linesman who are bigger than rugby players, which i stated. and these guys are only playing for around 11 minutes.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 Actually, I limited the list to players 6'3 and over. Jacobs isn't even the heaviest RB on the Giants, it's Henry Hynoski 6'1 266lb. Just to educate you, Jacobs is heavy for a HB, all FB's are big, there both RB's. Also, several plyrs were TE's. The Giants biggest WR is Ramses Barden 6'6 227lb. It's hilarious that you complain about RB's and WR's, I didn't see you list any tiny Wingers. Lol! Here's the Giant's roster, enjoy! w w w. giants. com/team/roster. html
bebomac5 1 month ago
nice mid man. I live in the Uk and play football, rugby (union and league). IMO to have an opinion on this subject you have to play both, otherwise you dont know shit really. In one season of football ive had more injuries then in my past 6 years of rugby combined. Helmets actually increase the rate of concussions, paralysis and death because there are no rules against high tackles. Dont get me wrong i love rugby and its tought shit, but football is fucking inhuman. Play both, love both. Peace
MegaCaptainfun 1 month ago
@bebomac
189lbs Fullback vs 255lbs Prop watch?v=dQDIqYpsHWI
187lbs vs 253lbs watch?v=Klep8uNIkB0
and your other links show big men terrorising smaller men big fuckin deal.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 You have a habit of getting into unwinnable fights. Do you know how many of examples of this I could bury you with? Small plyrs collide with massive ones, constantly in AF, and the size differences are greater than is even possible in Rugby. Here are a few more:
6'1 215lb vs. 6'4 295lb watch?v=4fFWSCpXoW4
6'0 200lb vs. 6'4 320lb watch?v=QFPjSOuPpxM
5'11 220lb vs. 6'7 290lb watch?v=0H55JIBLdtc
bebomac5 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 Fyi, outhitting NCAA or NFL linemen, who are the biggest, strongest, team athletes on the planet, is a rare feat. NCAA and NFL Linemen are often Gigantic, as strong as power lifters, as fast as the average Rugby player, and have excellent endurance. Linemen are generally 280lb-290lb of solid muscle, they carry extra body weight, because otherwise they'd be tossed aside and crushed like a ragdoll. It's a sacrifice they gladly make for success and victory.
bebomac5 1 month ago
Rugby Players
Jerome Kaino 6ft4, 240lbs, Owen Franks 6ft1, 260lbs, Radike Samo 6ft5, 258lbs, Census Johnston 6ft3, 300lbs (he is a bit of a freak though), Ritchie Gray 6ft9, 270lbs, John Afoa 6ft, 260lbs, Jannie Du Plessis 6ft 2, 267lbs, Gurthro Steenkamp 6ft 1, 276lbs.
And these guys all tackle 195 wingers and flyhalfs without pads.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 Census Johnston, a freak? Rugby fans don't know what a freak is! The player here (Mario Williams) was 6'6 295lb in this video: watch?v=SbcmqyKtWew . His teammate, rookie, J.J. Watt is 6'6 290lb: watch?v=szc0xljoqDs . Almost all NFL players are absolute freaks, they have to be.
bebomac5 1 month ago
Ha everyone says AF players are so much bigger than rugby players but its a total myth. the only players that are notably bigger on defence are Defensive tackles (around 290lbs), and there are only 1 or 2 of these on the field at anytime. and Guards, centres and offensive tackles but they are used for blocking. AF players James Harrison 6ft, 242 lbs, Ray Lewis 6ft 1, 250lbs, Patrick Willis 6ft 1, 240lbs, Jared Allen 6ft6, 270lbs, Chad Greenway 6ft 2, 242lbs.
GrubbySatan1991 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991
I'm going to show you why you're an idiot....Ready?
Brandon Jacobs 6'4 264lb, David Diehl 6'5 304lb, Mathias Kiwanuka 6'5 267lb,
Chris Canty 6'7 317lb, Kareem McKenzie 6'6 330lb, Justin Tuck 6'5 268lb,
Jake Ballard 6'6 275lb, Jimmy Kennedy 6'6 320lb, Chase Blackburn 6'4 242lb,
Bear pascoe 6'5 283lb, Osi Umenyiora 6'3 255, Mark Herzlich 6'4 246lb,
Kevin Boothe 6'5 320lb, Jason Pierre-Paul 6'5 278lb, Zak DeOssie 6'4 249lb,
David Baas 6'4 312lb.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991
Will Beatty 6'6 319lb, Stacey Andrews 6'6 318lb, Dave Tollefson 6'4 266lb,
Chris Snee 6'3 305lb, Joseph Linval 6'4 323lb, Rocky Bernard 6'3 301lb,
Justin Trattou 6'4 255lb, Tony Ugoh 6'5 301lb, Mitch Petrus 6'3 315lb.
Have you figured out why you're a massive idiot yet?...Let me help you..These players are all on the same team, and there are more! Also, I guarantee you NFL players are stronger and faster than R players who are of equal size.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@GrubbySatan1991 Btw, the average weight for DT's is around 305lb-310lb. You know this info is really easy to find. save yourself some embarrassment, and do some checking before commenting, unless you're simply lying, hoping no one will call you out on it.
bebomac5 1 month ago
I'd like to see what a rugby player would say to a LB
NEXTLOVER 1 month ago