LiUNA Genersal President Terence M. O'Sullivan Minneapolis

[Jimmy1tooth]

2 belong to liuna is to belong to shit

[Jimmy1tooth]

unions had their time and that time is long over nobody wants union and nobody cares about a big blow up rat being set up in front of a non union site in fact we laugh at it every morning when we go to WORK and get paid and you union guys stand there with no pay lmao i cant tell you how many union guys work on my site and talk bad about the union back in the old days a union man would never work on a non union site but not today.liuna are greedy men and the last president drives a ferrari

[afterray]

it's clear that mr. o'sullivan means business !

it's clear that LiUNA is not a joke !

it's CLEAR that obama / team means HORSE DUNG...

when this nation finds its way back on track, i hope for the following REALITY :

* i think that o'sullivan / LiUNA should have a system that can detect the overt / filth of nepotism that's found in the three locals of cement & concrete workers: 6a / 18a and 20.

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray before you hope for liuna to do something 4 the membership you should pray non union companies stop taking all the work from you over paid union members..and read the news today liuna will NOT get back on track and lost thousands of jobs .$30 a mouth dues $2.75 per hr dues check off 10 cent per hr to pac $4 hr to "organizing" $12 hr for poor medical $15 hr to pension you need 30 years to get and wont get if you dont get 1000 hrs a yr for 30 years . go non union

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth

" pray / read the news today" ? ( joke)

the republicans felt the pressure ( via union a-c-t-i-v-i-s-m ), while non union memebrs continue to pray and appreciate exploitation...* the high-way bill ( 1956) saved over 600,000 UNION jobs ( something is better the nothing).

of course LiUNA is hurting. of course the country is hurting...

dude.

take a look at the unemployment rate / gdp / cpi / s&p / dow etc. LiUNA is no exception to this harsh environment ( that's bent thinking).

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray you are so brain washed to think non union workers have no rights .i was union and now work non union and bring home more money because i dont pay to PAC, SUV for delegate which your local 20 spends more then any other local to buy you pay into two different "organizer funds" state and local ..when was the last major non union job the organizer turned lol i dont pay for my boss to golf 5 days a week and i have medical with my company and yes a 401 k that nobody but me can touch

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth your net ( non union) is more then a union net take home? keep dreaming...the variables of our contributions is clear on the stubs ( "pac / suv local 20" ? ( pathetic)).

a 401 k can be taped into ( be it union / non union).

i bet that you want to be the next MUSSOLINI ( kill all union members ! both white / blue collar.

the influence of unions is no exception to construction... FOOLS thinks so ( feel the power ! )).

LiUNA !

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray suv= sport utility vehicle in which local 20 delegates have two that cost YOU the member more then $120 g ..Feel the power of"the failure of the liuna internal reform"look it up..and by years end i bring home more money because i work full time and you wait to be called from the out of work list keep waiting lmao.if you work 990 do you get a full pension credit? No but you paid over $10,000 to pension if you work 690hr do you get medical?NO but you paid $7000 to the medical fund.

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth you seem to be well informed about local 20. hmmm, i bet you are an impostor (that's ok. i KNOW too many. after a while, you actually develop a sixth sense).

you are repeating yourself ( telling neurosis / depression ( non union syndrome. UHHH ))...

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...because i insists on not having a debate ( not that i lack rationalism), union vs non union = the greed / exploitation ( low rates / harsh hours / no over time / no double etc.) that companies smite u with.

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LiUNA !

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth the macro economy has inevitably four cycles that effect ALL ( union or not). UHHH.

when the tides subside, the private sector and the banks are going to hug each-other (this is a historical FACT that u and your cute non union must eat ( eco 101)).

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mr. j1t. ask your cute non union boss what will happen to the structure of LiUNA when the shadows of the mired state depression are over.

looking at the case from a macro point of view, non unions suffer greatly...

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray by now you are number 350 on the out of work list ,if your lucky.by the time the nation gets back on track your union will be just a memory.union are no longer needed we now have labor laws to protect us and for retirement just start a 401 k.non union is the way to go

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth "by the time the nation gets back on track your union will be just a memory" that's only if i decide to finish college ( by the way, LiUNA encourages college. uhh).

"union are no longer needed " that's wishful thinking.

"we now have labor laws" really. hmm, the history of the many of labor laws were influenced via the principle of unionism...

"retirement just start a 401 k" ? ( joke)

* i don't hate non union...whatever it takes to put food on the table period

i'm a realist..

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray you need 1000 hrs a year in your union to recieve a pension credit and with little work 90% of the members wont get it thats a joke also if you work say 650 hrs with your union you would have paid $6500 for medical but since you need 700 hrs you wont have medical ..let me ask you does your great union give you back the money because you wont have medical lol.. no they tell you fools the money goes into a "pool" lol..$30 per mouth for dues but you pay $3 per to dues check off ..

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth ...because i'm a R-E-A-L-I-S-T ( by definition), i must concede that you have interesting points...i'm not going to have a debate with you ( union vs non union).

* i acknowledge ( unfortunately) the weaknesses / corruptions of unions ( particularly 6a / 18a / 20 ( dirty fat mob horse dung ( i love it when the feds throw then in jail) / nepotism)) / non unions ( filthy mob as well) and false ideologies...

you have an aversion toward unions...good for you.

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray at you next union meeting ask "why are members forced to pay PAC"."why if my wife has medical am i forced to pay into medical when i can go under her medical which is better and keep the $10 hr that i pay to medical which would be $400 a week in my check" " when was the last pay freeze my delegates took"" why does the woman that runs the funds make over $200,000 a year with only 1800 active member between the 3 locals" .i was in local 18 a few years ago and what i 4got you didnt learn

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth there are many of good Qs that i would like to ask...but, because of the unfortunate, dirty, political hierarchy, i need some allies ( perhaps a good lawyer)...my sincere Qs will for sure trouble many ( like nepotism...WHY many of the apprentices get immediate full journey mans pay? most of the instructors are romans.etc).

"$200,000 a year" doubtful.

18a shoppe (R) accepted workers without a book...

* now, can u see why i wished that LiUNA had a system that can nag nepotism...

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray if you think out your question and not do it nasty then you have every right to ask what is on your mind that is your union and the membership union dont forget that...liuna is king of nepotism so forget about them helping you..yes the woman that runs the funds make over $200,000 a yr and it comes from your check look for administrative that come out of your money,bet you didnt know that you pay to run the funds..

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth thanks for the advice...i looked at my stub, administrative deduction is not there. do you mean "org / due ?"

how do you know for certain, that she makes that much? you might be saying the truth, but i need some sound reference.

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray org/due which you pay into two funds one is state organizer lol and the other is local there was no need to have state organizers because you had local already and if i told you the reason you pay state you would shit yourself and yes the woman that runs the funds makes over $200g a yr

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth. " i was in local 18 a few years ago"

let me guess, your bright information was brought before the delegates.

let me guess, you and many get together to detest the " $ 200,000" salary.

let me guess, you and a group detested the " suvs" and the fat riders.

let me quess, you were the ONLY at the monthly meetings speaking your mind.

***** let me guess, you actually filed a complaint to the national labor relations board ( NLRB) / LiUNA about union corruption******

let me guess...

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray year after year i saw the laborers get a raise but i came home with the same money because more of the raise went to dues check off and 2 different organizer funds and medical plan that stinks and after 10 year of that BS i just moved on and went non union and never filed a complaint

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth my friend. you know a lot, and i'm sure that your experience is great...i respect the fact that you abandoned 18a and your reasons...you are right, a lot of what's going on is BS / nepotism / professional corruption...i see it at the apprenticeship school / actually job sites...why the laborers are not entitled for paid - vacation? the boards explanation is far from reason...

* many of the laborers NEED to united / pressure the council at their monthly meetings...

peace to u.

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray the vacation pay didnt work i remember years ago when we had it...here is why it didnt work contractors dont pay on time so if you counted on say a $300 check you may have recieved only $150 and was told you would need to wait for the contractor to pay up to date and if they went out of business you didnt get paid so if you are going to ask for something dont let it be vacation..25 yrs ago you only needed 400 hrs for pension now its 1000 ask to have that number go back down...

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray i know more then you think about the business and really liked the guy timmy who was my delegate in local 18 anything you need to know ask and if you have friends that have questions i will help you..i was in favor of union and was sorry i had to go non union but to much wrong goes on in the locals..your coucil is in the red and it wont be long before it goes under yet the president spent $80,000 on a caddy suv the guys i keep in touch with want me to come back and run for B.M.

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth " the president spent $80,000 on a caddy" wow. if that's true. i feel like vomiting.

is this the president of 18a or all of the locals (18a / 6a and 20) ?

as for you being the B.M. is concern, the ultimate choice is your...perhaps your sound info / experience can turn the tables around ( not easy). and with the right allies, you can slam the filth WITHIN the locals...

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray The d.c. president spent $80g on his suv complete with tv in the head rest and it cost the membership $300,000 a yr to pay him

[afterray]

@Jimmy1

Most employees are not told by their employer and union that full union membership cannot lawfully be required. In Pattern Makers v. NLRB, 473 U.S. 95 (1985), the United States Supreme Court held that union members have the right to resign their union membership at any time.... --- google : Can I be required to be a union member or pay dues to a union ...

i once thought of NOT PAYING my full dues...

what does PAC mean?

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray after 12 months of not paying dues you are out of the union then you would need to have a company hire you to get back into the union and good luck with that because the union will tell the company not to hire you because you are not union

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth in order to be fully union, one either pays the full dues or SOME of the dues...paying dues play a big role with variables ( to make exceptions " d.c. presidents $80k ride" is narrowing the picture). the political influence / collective bargaining , LiUNA materials etc., are all connect via dues.

analogy: if you don't pay your mortgage, the marshals will kick you out ( with kids or without)...

you are losing ground...i think that i'll end with you. 

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray at one time members paid dues every mouth and thats what the local ran the local with then the union added dues check off to run the union so every hr you work you py the union lmao so why do you pay dues every month i`ll tell you why your a sucker and with that i think that i`ll end it with you

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth the post office is on a verge of falling down hard...many of the parents will suffer greatly. in a situation like this, people like you ( non union) have absolutely NO power. NO saying. all you can do is watch the situation disintegrate ( thousands of lost jobs / foreclosures) and attack unions.

LiUNA smells the odor is this situation ( mind you. the highway bill. LiUNA acted swiftly. and SAVED OVER 600,000 UNION jobs) and there is going to be a huge protest to help the PO...

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray you didnt hear save union jobs when you heard the president speech you heard save jobs learn to read between the lines

[afterray]

@Jimmy1tooth you ( from union to non union ( to each is own)) seem not to appreciate the REALITY behind the influential pressure that LiUNA had on the republicans...you ( non union) fail miserably to acknowledge the REALITY of how LiUNA SAVED O-V-E-R 600,000 UNION jobs...

** lets not kid yourselves, the battle is far from over **

MIND u. once the economy is back to normal, unionism will rise and non unions will fall hard...this economical trend is REAL !

the choice is your. be union.

bye-bye.

[Jimmy1tooth]

@afterray your right you have a right to work on a union job and not be in the union as long as they pay you union wage but what the union will tell the contractor is the union members dont work side by side with non union and if the company is letting you work without your union card then a delegate will come to the job and tell all the members the company has non union workers and its their union duty to walk off the job and they will but before that happens you will be let go