Red Oak Longbow

[bassbucksnbeards1]

Hahahahaha the leather on his arm is tha same color as his skin

[TheRobinAsshole]

@bassbucksnbeards1 stop beeing racist asshole!

[Raynor35]

@bassbucksnbeards1 Yea, hanging outside a lot during the summer tends to do that.

[Icebarrage]

Did you not back it with fiberglass?

[Raynor35]

@Icebarrage No, I did not back it with fiberglass. It is backed with 100% natural linen! You should try it some time! easy to work with, authentic, and no glass dust!

[loadedClownZ]

you americans and europeans are so lucky, good bow woods like red oak and ash and all those good bow woods are so easy to get, i live in australia and the other day i probably rang up about 4 timber shops and asked them if they sold red oak and 1 guy said " i've never heard of that species",i asked them if they had elm, maple, ash, birch etc.. and they said you cant get that wood in australia, it felt bad being told my bow making career was over before it started, and i love archery so much.

[Ratd0g28]

@loadedClownZ There has to be some type of bow wood in your area. Do you have any trees around? Most hardwood trees will make a bow. Just got to get experimenting.

[loadedClownZ]

@Ratd0g28 yeah i know of about 4 that are good, we have a type of wood similar to hickory in terms of bow wood properties so i'll give that a try.

[toppertruthio]

nice work,im guessing youve made a few more since

[bmthbad]

nice bow

[SkullCandyOffspring]

Love the bows I really want to make one myself and was wondering if you could maybe make some instructional videos for how you made either your osage bow or red oak longbow? Keep up the good work I enjoy the bows they look really good. Thanks.

[Tossdart]

Tim proved time & again that ones logic defies itself.  Even at this width you could have made this bow heavier & safer by bracing it lower. So you undershot while overshooting ehe, if that makes sense to you. The further a bow is drawn the more energy it stores. Good on you.

[celticbattleaxe]

Absolutely marvelous!! Incredible!! Only 6 days to make the final bow - fascinating. If I had enough time, I would make one, but for that I am going to an unfortunately little-known website which offers the best deals online - redmountainarchery(dot)com. But still, incredible!!

[MistaMojoe69]

make a tutorial on it like wat u do to make it

[michaelshore1992]

good job man!

[TheWhoaDude]

I love it cuz its cheap and anyone can make it. Now if only I could learn to make a sword. O_o

[avishaishitrit]

thank you about your answers

it help a lot

avishai

[kennygtexas]

Gr8 vid....5 stars. You should do a how to vid on making bow and arrows. Hunter here on a budget.

[taylorberg12]

hey thx for the vid very cool ive made like 10 bows and they have all broke but im gone try again thx

[ERAplayer]

Hey there, I had a quick question about your grip. I'm building my first bow and was originally just going to leave it without a riser and not even cut an arrow rest, but I'm deciding against that now. My question is how did you rough out the sides of the handle after you put on the riser? Rasp, saw, what exactly? Thanks!

[Raynor35]

@ERAplayer  I used a hacksaw to make some of the bigger, straighter cuts, like the actual arrow shelf itself, and then I just used a rasp to shape everything else.

[niksechtniks]

i has forged a bow from springsteel e beast!!

[avishaishitrit]

First of all thanks for the movie that really really helped me.

I just step to build a bow of red oak. Please tell me what the thickness of your bow? I saw another film to be a half inch, your bow looks more. And please tell me also what thickness of your bow is. seen less than two inches.

Thank you for all your movies very much encouraged to build an arch.

Avishai.

[Raynor35]

@avishaishitrit The thickness of your bow is entirely dependent on the design of your bow: the width of the limbs, the required flexibility, draw length and weight, and the density of the wood.that bow was in the neighborhood of 3/4" thick, I have made other bows that are less than 1/4" thick.

[avishaishitrit]

Thanks for your reply.

I built bow and I want to build another, stronger.

I have some questions:

1. What board are you most recommend?

2. I saw another movie you brokena maple bow, is maple board is not good?

3. If I use a wider wood board, the bow will draw stronger?

Thanks for everything

Avishai.

[seanetc]

@avishaishitrit

I can sort of answer your questions

1. What board are you most recommend?- Red oak is cheap and fairly good. White oak is mroe expensive but even better. Generally most hardwoods are good.

2. I saw another movie you brokena maple bow, is maple board is not good?- Cant really say.

3. If I use a wider wood board, the bow will draw stronger?- No not necessarily. A thicker bow makes a higher draw. Depends of how wide you consider wide. I'd say the width of your palm as verymax

[Wingsfan7]

@avishaishitrit

1 - Elm, Hickory, Ash, Red/White Oak, Maple, Yellow Birch, Black Cherry are all great.

2 - Maple is a great bow wood, I've made 3 bows of maple, and am working on another one now.

3 - A bow that is wider will only be stronger than a narrower version if thickness remains the same. A good starting design is to make your bow 66'' long, 2 inches wide from the handle fades to mid limb, then tapering to half inch tips.

Message me if you want to discuss bows! :).

[Axisrecreation]

Great video. Thanks for posting this. About to attempt my first bow using same reference materials. I'm really impressed with BTB series on a theoretical level but haven't done a thing yet.

[Raynor35]

@Axisrecreation Best of Luck!

[seanetc]

hey so with the linen as the bow string, does it come like a piece of string or do you buy it as rectangular strips?

[Raynor35]

@seanetc I used 7-ply Irish Linen Lockstitch thread. I buy it by the yard from a local cobbler.

[Linkinitn]

that was cool. nice build.

[doylerhill]

nice bow. I think you said that its left handed. I believe it would actually be a right hand bow. If you are right handed you hold the bow in left hand and draw the string with right hand. keep at it. the bowyers bible book you mentioned is one of four I think, interesting reading even if you dont make many bows.

[Raynor35]

@doylerhill Oh! You're right! I didn't notice that I actually said, "left handed", I mean to say that it fits your left hand, but misspoke. Thanks for catching that!

[wildernesssurvival01]

dude this is ace !!!! :D

josh

[ESWowner]

your fletching level is 99 :D lol

[sethwilderseth]

can you show how to make it please

[DrumsticksBarren]

Very cool man congrats. You've just inspired me to make my own bows...thanks.

[jacksoncole79]

How many trys did it take you to get a bow that didnt explode?

[Raynor35]

@jacksoncole79 The bow in this video was my 3rd bow, although I broke the second intentionally to figure out why the first one broke. So it;s my second real attempt.

[condorlegion89]

Cool stuff

[Soviless99]

at first you bow at 02:00 i thought it had a very long top siyah, i did'nt realize it had broke until you said. :D

[Soviless99]

what poundage bow would the river cane would be good for? I learned from my mistake from fletching 6 pine wood dowels and tried to use it with a 40 # bow even though I had a feeling they would break.

[Raynor35]

@Soviless99 Do mean what poundage of bow can arrows made from river cane be used for? Or what is the maximum poundage that you can make a bow of out of river cane?

[Soviless99]

@Raynor35 sorry I meant "what poundage of bow can arrows made from river cane be used for" what it's spine weight you made a nice bow!

[Raynor35]

@Soviless99 I don't actually know the upper limit, but I've made arrows spined in the range from 30 - 65 lbs from river cane. On the other hand, the 65 pound cane arrows are quite thick, so you might be getting diminishing returns in terms of accuracy at that kind of poundage.

[xbrakx]

@Raynor35 How do you tell the draw weight of it?

[Raynor35]

@xbrakx It's really quite simple. I have a spring scale that measures up to 100 pounds. I use that to draw the bow to the distance I'm aiming for and check how much weight it says it's pulling.

[Rigo76801]

i have taken your website info and made my own oak board bow. I have made 8 bows. First was not so powerful 30#@28 and it broke like yours after a week. my 8th bow is 60#@28 . I have had that bow for about a month now and plan on trying to make a recurve bow next.

[Raynor35]

@Rigo76801 Good luck on the recurve, I have a hard time tillering recurves.

[lan4491]

thanx man what that thing you but on it is it polyurethane ????

[xinexer]

K right now I'm just trying diffrent types of wood I think I'll try red oak I tried to make one out of white wood but it broke this may be because I cut it to thin by mistake but i'll try red oak my only worry is that red oak seems to be kinda heavy. When I find some bamboo big enough I'll make a white wood but until then red oak and linen it is. But hey I have made my own Flemish bowstring jig and string it turned out really nice.

[Raynor35]

@xinexer harder woods tend to be denser than softer woods, that's why it feels heavy. But with he harder woods you need less wood than you would with a softer wood, so the overall weight of the bow shouldn't be affected too much. Good job then with the string.

[Raynor35]

Uh, to the guy who's comment I accidentally just deleted (I blame youtube for putting the two buttons right next to each other)

Yes, I got that particular red oak board from the hardware store.

[Wingsfan7]

Hey , what is the purpose of the linen backing, I'm also a noob, so could you explain the purpose of it? I'm assuming for strength, but like hwo to put it on , etc.

Thanks man.

[Raynor35]

It's like a guard rail on a highway. You may very well be fine without it, but in a car starts to wander off the road (in other words a splinter picks up or crack begins), it helps keep the car on the road and not smashing into trees and exploding into shrapnel-filled explosions (prevents small cracks from causing the bow to explode)

[Wingsfan7]

OH, ok, gotcha. Thanks a bunch! I'm making one this weekend, so just gathering some info first :)

[xinexer]

I got 2 more questions first what type of leather did you use for your arm guard and handle? And two where did you get your staves? Home depot, lowes?

[Raynor35]

I got the leather from a local cobbler who sells it to me cheap, and board staves are from a local hard-wood warehouse, though you could check at lowes and such and see if they have any usable boards.

[xinexer]

k lowes. but for leather i mean is it latigo leather, veg tanned leather, or a less think leather that is only 3-4oz thick?

[Raynor35]

I use all kinds of pieces from his box of scraps, though I believe the leather for that bracer AND the grip on that bow were veg tanned.

[xinexer]

k thanks man.

[xinexer]

Great job man but how much did it cost to make the bow?

[Raynor35]

Ah well, discounting start-up costs (tools, etc), the materials for a bow like that are pretty cheap. I mean you can get a board stave for just a few dollars, I got two yards of linen to back with for $20, glue and the finish are another $10 or so each, but those last four things you can use for, say, 3-4 bows each before you need to run out. Then I got Irish Linen lock-stitch thread and the leather from a local cobbler for just a few dollars.

[xinexer]

so about $40-$50 thank. thats really good compared to the $200-$300 it would cost to buy. but ya thanks i'm trying to get into archery i got a parker buck-hunter xp compound bow but it's just not the same as a longbow. hopefully i will be able to make a good bow by the time i am 18 lol. but hey are you told what type of tools you need to make the bow in the bowyer's bible? and if not would you be able to tell me? well hey thanks for your time.

[Raynor35]

Yea, but there's alot of effort going into it, too. Yea, they'll give you lists and types of tool in the Bible, but here's an idea of what I use most: Clamp, Rasp, Draw knife, scraper, C-clamps, hammer & chisel, various glues, pencil, straightedge, tillering stick, pulley system, spring scale, sandpaper, and specialty jigs. I wish I had a good spoke shave and band saw.

[xinexer]

this really help me out i've tryed looking it up but nothing ever says what to use. so i thank you for the bowyer's bible listing on your video

[Asterixarcher]

Looks great! i would recommend you check out primitivearcher.c0m and thebowyersden.c0m

Also another awesome primitve archery website i would check out is paleoplanet. Do a google search and you will find it. It has all sorts of information about lots of primitive skills, not just archery.

[Raynor35]

@Asterixarcher Awesome links!  Thanks!

[dcameron0702]

how much would you sell that bow for??

[flamefinger1989]

wow trust me you have a gift keep making them

[TatankaOhitika1]

That is a beautiful bow. Powerful, accurate, weapon. Maybe you will go full circle in the future, and cut down your own tree, turn that into a bow, and pound sinews or yucca leaves and make your own bowstring, and harvest your own saplings for arrows. And possibly even take a Deer with it. Good Job.

[perunatic]

Superb bow mate. Well done.

[ctfjustice]

Awesome! It looks like my "new" hobby just got a little bit more expensive...lol. Thanks for the reply and I hope mine comes out looking and performing like the one you are showing here on your video.

[ctfjustice]

Hello, I was wondering if you used the first book only or did you use the other Traditional Bowyers Bible books? I understand that they have four books, I was simply wondering if you used the first book or did you use the other three as well?

[Raynor35]

I used all four books, although most of the essentials are in Book one, Book two was most definitely essential because there is are whole chapters in there about making bows from board staves and making strings, respectively.

[nathanbaehr]

I think what you're doing is very interesting. I also have made a bow of my own, hickory with a bamboo back and is 60lbs at 28". I'm not a pro but I have had great success with hickory and bamboo if you'd want to give that a try.

Cool video! Thanks so much for sharing!

[paintboy360olie]

so did you back the bow linen? Thanks!

[Raynor35]

Yes, It's backed with linen.

[paintboy360olie]

Thanks again!

[ZElectricdonkey]

How did you back it with linen?

[Raynor35]

@ZElectricdonkey I just used Titebond II, it's an amazing all-round glue, and I'm very happy with it overall. Basically, I precut linen strips, (for three layers) then put down a layer of glue on the bare back, then linen, then more glue to make sure the fabric was saturated, and made sure all the bubbles and wrinkles were smoothed out. Let the glue dry for 20 minutes or so so it gets tacky, and repeat for the next layer.

[Raynor35]

@ZElectricdonkey

If you guys want I can make a video on how to glue on a linen backing, it's not very hard, to be honest.

[hobbs312]

Nice bow dude it looks awesome i wish i could make a bow like that dude.

[Raynor35]

I bet you can.

[ZElectricdonkey]

that would be nice, but do you think gorilla wood glue would work?

[Raynor35]

I don't know, I'm not familiar with it, but if it foams up like normal Gorilla glue, I doubt it. Gorilla Glue's really good as a space-take-upper glue with good adhesion, but on a bow you want everything as flush as possible.

[gigglyblonde]

nice hope mine works

[pirahna1000]

Very nice job.The tiller looks great and she sounds fast too.Keep up the good work and remember,when your making a bow and it breaks,its just an excuse to make another

[philochristos]

Nice bow!  Thanks for the plug. :-)

[TheBowboy1994]

very fast bow find a place where u can use a conograph and get the speed of it

[TheBowboy1994]

thts a right handed bow

[Raynor35]

Huh....?  Oh! yea, sorry I misspoke, the grip is designed for the left hand, since it is a right-handed bow. Or at least that's what I meant to say. (-_-;)

[sacredbanana]

thats awesome :)

btw you have a very nice place