Tourism trap for Honduras' Garifunas - 20 Jul 08

[youngdollabillz]

I Fucking hate racist piece of shit gringos and meztizos. A la mierda Cara de vergas todos que no le gustan Los Negroes.

[youngdollabillz]

@ elkilicatracho shut ur racism ass up maldito pendejo de mierda. Your just hating on the garifunas, but you should be. Bcuz those garifunas be taking all ya India bitches from ya. they go to the garifunas to get themselves tha real business!! You bum ass racist bitch!

[elkilicatracho]

NIGGERS IF U DONT WANNA BE IN HONDURAS , U CAN GET THE FUCK OUTTA HONDURAS GO BACK TO AFRICA. THIS IS HISPANIC LAND NO NIGGER LAND.

[meylinhify]

tu si.. ( toastednoodles) cara de verga es que no sabes que los hondureños estamos orgullosos de nuestro pais ..? inbesil tu es que debes leer un libro de honduras no otro..!!!

[hondu25]

Honduras Have Many Races ... Mestizos, White, Garifuna, Indijinas, Miskitos, Blacks Caribeans.. and some many

[choclatemellons]

They use to say in Honduras the cities are for ladinos/meztisos/whites people and coast for niggers. For many years they wanted nothing to do with these coastal villages and people.  We were exiled and left alone forgoten in Central American after the English and French stole our land in St Vincent and Grenadines and now these EuroTrash/white devils want to steal our mother-land and inslaves us again? oh hell no!!!! Black-Caribs/Arawakans/Garifun­as/Afro Americans stand up and fight!!!

[choclatemellons]

Garifuna unite and develop your own land for the benefit of your people

[choclatemellons]

Garifunas they stoled st vincent don't let them steal our beatiful land in honduras!!!

[MzNardo215]

@choclatemellons You are absolutely right. Tela Bay consist of Tornabe, Maimi, Trunfo, San Juan and Barra Viaje. Trunfo and San Juan rejected the plan but the rest of them accepted it. Little did they know what they were getting themselves into because now their land are owned by people from Canada and Europe. The project is huge sooner or later they will get kicked out beceause they will become a disturbance.

[endofworldpovertycor]

I hope God listens to your cry and stops evel from taking over what belongs to you.

[ryann347]

OMG

[afrohondurano]

siiii yo soy orgullo de mi honduras ascendencia guirafuna cien por ciento! :)

[bebetigre12]

Al Jazeera should report their own filth,like forcing little girls to marry 80 year old men !!!!!!!!!!

[youkody77]

@bebetigre12

that's good that you reported this, how about reporting the reporting of pedophiles in ur countries, n lack of right of women, the abuse of women, pls report them.

[leomar30nv]

GARIFUNATRAVEL,COM(YTB)

[SrBONGIOVANNI]

Aljazeera are a bunch of hypocrites, they interviewed people who doesn't live where this resort is being built at this time..Stop your lies, let the country alone you muslim freaks....

[txus4sho]

I Am Garifuna and i am always paying attention!

[titosantucci]

Hey, Al-Jazeera. Why don't you guys stop acting like you support property rights and all that when Orthodox Christians, Yazidis, and Bahais get their rights violated daily by Islamists. In Egypt Islamists dug up a centuries old Coptic Orthodox cemetery. The government killed all the livestock of Copts in a whole region just because they raised pigs! Why don't you report on that you hypocrites and leave us Latin Americans to figure out our own mess.

[mbleek2001]

Aljazeera is just reporting so stop with your attacks. Aljazeera news is more tuned in with reality unlike the US media so called "leader of the free world"  matter of fact i dare you to show me this story or anything similar in US mainstream media.

[titosantucci]

In tune with reality? Only when its convenient for them, but when Christians in the middle east are getting rapped and kidnapped Al-Jazeera doesn't cover those stories that happen right in their back yard. Minorities in the Middle East are treated even worse, they can get their rights violated all the time. I dare you to show me how they defend their minorities. We defend our own, figure out you own mess.

[bebetigre12]

@titosantucci you are so right!!

[Deffordt]

orgulloso de la raza garifuna

[Zobeyda0624life]

que pobre ud Sr,,que lastima da.bueno Salvadoreno al fin.

[StFrancisChurch]

Es tan triste quitarle al pobre el ultimo sentavo que ellos tienen , tanto sacrificios que ellos hacen por hacer sus vidas diarias, es tan triste que ya un poco de tiempo no se gozara la Madre Naturaleza , que tan precioso es verla. pero se esta destruyendo junto con los hermanos humildes . y no solo Honduras es toda la Tierra del Universo.Que tristeza tan Grande. Hasta El Padre Eterno llora por esto , es gran dolor en la tierra. por la mentalidad humana. paz Reine Contigo.

[nosupecualponerme]

bueno amigos mayas zapotecas gareufinios tloltelcas chichimecas garufinas apachez zipotez.,la solucione s esta que les den su feria a los garufines alcabo vendra un sunamei y esos hoteles y demas se iran al mar,agarren la feria y los terrenos que les den aparte tendran chamba y al ultimo el mar y los terremotos acabaran con esos hoteles piensen caras palidas dejelos que se ganchen en ese tereno movediso y vayan a tocar los tambores mas arriva de la sierra mientras estos ladinos se ahogan solitos

[litljrod]

QUE PEDO!!?

[steel7271]

cool

[mobhit07]

im down with the garifonas,fuckkk the goverment bunch of ladrones,i love tela,ceiva,i have fun there and the gaifonas are cool real nice so im down with the garifonas much love from chicago.100

[LuaniGarifuna]

Look Acimudo shut the hell up!!!! Now you say we Garinagu are not welcome in Central America, but when it comes to punta, nobody complains, when it comes to machuca, its all good. Honduras wants to make money of the Garifuna culture but not help us. They want to steal our culturem. Now you Ladinos cry out Mayan. You were the same ones who massacred Mayans in Guatemala, and always make fun of Indegenous culture. Ustedes Ladinos simpre han marginado tanto al Indegena como al Garifuna.

[xxchapin3]

mestizo tienes razon,los africanos de africa no nuestras garifunas,los africanos piensan que nosotros los indigenas somos mezcla de chinos y africanos que equivocados estan,nosotros tenenmos nuestra propia raza indigena,esa gente claman a los mayas quieren robar la cultura maya por lo grandioso que fueron nuestros ancestros no los creas,son gente de otro continente que hacen eso

[xxchapin3]

los garifunas apenas tienen como 300 anos en centro america,pero de todas formas debemos ayudarlos,ellos nacieron en centro america y tienen derecho de estar en nuestro pais,ademas todos somos humanos,yo soy indigena maya pero no me gusta lo que esta pasando con ellos,

[acimudo]

ALJAZEERA: Help Your Brother Bin Laden, kill more innocent people in the Middle East where You Belong as You have been wishing and celebrating. Honduras belongs to Jesus Christ our SAVIOUR

[FoxsitoTaquito]

if the united states comes down there and invades you it'll belong to Jesus and white America

[acimudo]

They should claim rights to the europeans, In European territory. not where the slave traders dump them on the MAYAN TERRITORY. THIS BLACKS BELONG TO AFRICA. They have desroyed the Environment of the NEW WORLD

[toastednoodles]

@acimudo eres de lo mas ignorante ,alguna vez leiste un libro?Me da verguenza que seas de Honduras,si es que lo eres.

[VivaDemocracia]

Thank you for your recognition of Honduras AlJazeera. I have been worrying about this for a long time. They have blatant disregard for preservation and personal property. They are attempting to increase tourism for the revenue but aren't making enough steps to preserve and protect our valuable delicate tourism. Its a shame the way the islands have been neglected. Please cover the A.L.B.A movement that is killing our Democracy in Latin America.

[VivaDemocracia]

Excellent!!!!

[alehug]

estos pobres no saben que eso no es nada

haora con la inclucion de el isquierdista Chavez

muchos mas sufriran en honduras.

[hijoeputavos]

bueno ellos tienen un problema,por una parte quieren mantener su cultura,lenguaje y estilo de vida,pero no van hacia ningun lado hací,cuando el govierno les ofrece mejoras e involucrarce en la sociedad se niegan,nadie los entiende,no saven que los hoteles traen riquezas, trabajo y mejora en la calidad de vida..que mas podemos decir...en cuanto a Mel es un COME MIERDA!

[titosantucci]

La cuestion no es si los hoteles y los negocios traen trabajos, y riqueza. La cuestion es derechos y en especifico derecho de propiedad. Sin el derecho de propiedad no puede existir una sociedad con empresas limpias y manera de conduir el buen negocio. Solo hara corupcion con el apoyo del gobierno. No es por ser Garifu, ni por ser de ninguna otro raza recien llegada o anciana, es por ser humano que todos tenemos derechos de propiedad.

[lolgirl510]

@titosantucci Estoy de acuerdo. Los derechos humanos pueden ser más importantes que intereses económicos. Los seres humanos valen más que el dinero!!!

[nocturnus1985]

very sad

[a6a19821]

2- To Honduran government officials.

The IDB and government must suspend all work on this project until all pending land, territorial and environmental issues are resolved transparently and peacefully with the Garifuna communities along Honduras' north coast, including providing compensation and reparations to Garifuna people and communities for repression already suffered, and loss and damage of property and territory;

[a6a19821]

2- To Honduran government officials.

The IDB and government must suspend all work on this project until

all pending land, territorial and environmental issues are resolved

transparently and peacefully with the Garifuna communities along

Honduras' north coast, including providing compensation and

reparations to Garifuna people and communities for repression already

suffered, and loss and damage of property and territory;

[a6a19821]

STRONG LETTERS NEED TO BE WRITTEN

1- To the IDB (Inter-American Development Bank), that is funding this

exclusive "enclave" form of tourism that is comprehensively

violating the territorial and human rights of the Garifuna people and

their communities, and harming the local environment given that the

Micos project is being built not only on Garifuna territories but also

in the "Jeanette Kawas National Ecological Reserve."

[a6a19821]

The tourist project is literally squeezing the community of Barra Vieja out of existence. From the east, close to 90% of Barra Vieja's

land and territory has been taken from them, with no real compensation according to community members.

Over five times, Barra Vieja community members -- supported by

OFRANEH and Garifuna people from elsewhere - have walked to the edge of their remaining piece of land and physically stood in front of

bulldozers, road graders and large dump trucks.

(Continued )

[a6a19821]

(continued)...

So far, project workers have backed down.

How long will it be before the Micos Golf and Beach Resort -- with friends in high places in the Honduran government -- calls in the Honduran Army and National Police to force the enclave tourism road through the remainder of Barra Vieja -- disappearing the community, forcibly displacing its inhabitants and condemning them, most likely, to lives of poverty?

[gregwi562]

I am reading some of these post here and let me say that there some evil cold hearted people out there. Hell will be full.

[turkomasizo]

"indians" ha,ha wel the chortis,lencas,payas,misquitos­,etc ect..we also add the garifunas (blacks) with those groups they together make the 8% of the population of the country,the rest 90% is mixed white mediterranean with indian (mestizo)we also have a very important comunity of arabs,palestines,lebaneses in the big citys

[LuaniGarifuna]

My race has done wonderful and great things not only in Honduras but all over the world. You can call me Negro all you want, I am proud of my African legacy. Honduras is made up of "Negros" like me and Indios (Indians) like you.....

[celticwarrior555]

black history: being comprised of mudhuts, cannibalism, constant tribal war, enslavement, and having never invented the simple wheel.so peolpe build the hotels now!!

[gregwi562]

Pogue Mahone.

[cuzrock310]

@celticwarrior555

Tell me how many great accomplishments the Celtic race did, the Anglo Saxons considered your people to be drunken violent trash and most of you were living in dire poverty and considered to be lower than the black slaves in the US.

[Mumphrey123]

@celticwarrior555

Fuck you.

These people live there, and they have the right to do so. I weep for them, as the greedy developers do everything they can to shove them off the land they've been living on for 300 years. I don't know if there's any way to stop the builders, but I pray that there is.

[LuaniGarifuna]

Nipocarlos84. You are a nigger, see whats nigger realy means and you will see how it has nothing to do with being Black. Attitudes like yours is what brings Honduras down, por eso no progresamos. Whrether you like it or not we Garinagu have a right to Honduras lands. Go see who Honduras used to win in Vina del Mar. Honduras uses the Garifuna culture to represent itself. It uses Garifuna culture to bring in toursits. Yeah I am Negro and proud of it.......

[bredbrain]

ur right man!! punta is what most represents honduras and it was created by the garifuna people!!..XD

[MESTIZO1492]

nipomocarlos84 Como HONDURENO que soy puedo decir que vos no sos Hondureno!! yo no soy "negro"pero no me gusta la falta de educacion y ingnorancia de parte tuya.los problemas de HONDURAS solo nos concierne a los Hondurenos. Por otra parte me gusta que inviertan en el turismo siempre y cuando hagan un acuerdo y queden bien las dos partes.

[firstchino]

honduras es tierra de inmigrantes,nadie es 100% nativo hondureño,por ejemplo yo soy mestizo,pero mis abuelos llegaron a honduras del salvador cuando la guerra civil,pero yo naci en honduras,solo espero que un dia todos los hondureños nos podamos llevar mejor sin importar raza ni color,I love you honduras and I miss you too,greetings from USA.

[nipomocarlos84]

hahah ancestral lands haha there not native of central america lol there from africa

[LuaniGarifuna]

Shut up, you sound so stupid man. Garifuna is the mixture of Ship wrecked Africans and the Carib Indians of the island of St. Vincent. We were exiled by the British from our island and we were exiled to Honduras. We are indigenous to Honduras because we arrived there before Honduras was a country, before it was indendent from Spain. Thats why we are indegenous to Honduras.

*There are also Garifuna people in Guatemala, Belize and Nicaragua

[gjanie]

The light skin Hispanics like a lot of the white Americans and Europeans have evil intentions. Even in Latin America a place of Mestizos rascism is evident.

[ratonnewmex]

interesting...never knew about this tribe in Honduras. great reporting ALJ....as usual! thank God for a reputable news agency. thank God!

[alaadamy2]

The situation is similar to the situation in the U.S.A south east coast. The Gullah-Geeche corridor where The Gullah people live. wherein the Gullah and their culture are being displaced by encroaching resort-greedy land prospectors.

[LuaniGarifuna]

The problem is Honduras has always discriminated us Garifuna. The government wants to force us off our land and make us asks for permission and prohibit us from fishing and make our living on the land and sea we alrady own. They are killing Garifuna activists to try and silence us. Thats whats happening, its not right. We dont get help or health care from Honduran government and now they want to take away our lands, its not right.........

[nipomocarlos84]

haha u stupid negro. look the only native people of this continent are the indians your a nigger so africa is your homeland. the majority of the real hondurans are mostly indian with a little spanish in it. you all dont look like you have some indian in you. you look like nigger from rwanda. vos sos un mono!!

[krum369]

ignorant racist.

[buffcity101]

I like what you say nipomocarlos84; would you be kind to put your picture on; you are very "brave" man. I am garifuna and I would like to meet you to exchange some opinions.

[buffcity101]

Hey nipo: como estas?, mira deseo realmente conocerte. Tengo diez amigos garifunas que tambien qieren saludarte; debes tener cuidado lo que escribes en la red. ayer hize la investigacion y se quien eres...espero verte pronto.

[nipomocarlos84]

oh vos sabeis quien soy yo jaja callate negro

[buffcity101]

hey nipo; te invito a pasear por las calles de tu pueblo y hablemos de ese gran amor que tienes a tu gente<nadie tiene la culpa de tu eres mezclado con negro; tal como 99% de la población humana,,,,manda tu y te describiré tu árbol genealógico

[chele0925]

u are a fucking asshole am Hondurian n i bet dat am whiter than u.... so shut da fuck up u fucking dickhead.... n i support all garifuna ppl cuz they are part of the Hondurian culture..

[nipomocarlos84]

shut the fuck up chele i dont care about how wither you are lol ur dumb im just saying those niggers need to stop crying about land.

[MESTIZO1492]

los Hondurenos en su mayoria 80% son mestizo indijenas con espanol, hay una gran comunidad arabe palestina y lebaneses tambien en la ciudades grandes ,los garifunas representan el 2.5 a 3% de la poblacion de el pais y en su mayoria viven en pequenos poblados de la costa caribe de el pais.

[mensa007]

mestizo significa que algun tiempo un negro y una mujer oriental se juntarons y icieron una creasion. mestizo is not a indian and a black person getting together. The Olmecs where already here when the orientals crossed the bering strait. They built the pyramids and schools and mixed. The "Indians" as you call them is a mixture of the two. This cannot be disputed because it is fact. Look at Amerie. She looks indians doesn't she but her mother is korean and her father is black!

[MESTIZO1492]

hay negro no suenes mejor regrasa a africa que te coman las moscas y el sida!! indijenas son parte de la familai mongoloide de asia ellos crusaron por el esrtcho de alska miles de anos atras ...y los negros solo tienen en america 500 anos ve a educarte pendejo !!

[sdhonduras]

Sabes, gente como vos son los que estan discriminando a nuestros hermanos en el extranjero. Es facil discriminar aqui, pero me imagino que pensarias diferente cuando ves a los mestizos siendo discriminados en US.

[MESTIZO1492]

no me gusta discriminar,lo que pasa que no me gusta la mentira,y si leés lo que mensa007 escribio es una vil mentira,Lo unico que hice fue tratar de protejer mi patrimonio,mi historia.

[MESTIZO1492]

en cuanto a si los mestizos son discriminados en USA,ahora dime que raza no es discriminada por alla? todos contra todos,ese es el pais mas racista de el mundo.negros contra blancos,blancos contra latinos,latinos contra negros,y eso nunca acabara.

[MESTIZO1492]

la poblacion blanca pura de el pais llega casi a el 2% decendiente de espanoles y ingleses y europeos de otros paises principalmente en la costa y las islas de la bahia.

[MESTIZO1492]

las ectnias indijenas que se componen por varios grupos principalmente en el occidente de el pais representan casi el 4.5% de la poblacion de el pais

[MESTIZO1492]

nipomocarlos84 el estupido eres tu en Honduras todos son diferentes tienen su espacio y se respetan,claro nadie es perfecto.. pero no queremos contaminar nuestro pais con racismo extranjero como el tuyo.

[nipomocarlos84]

vos sos idiota seras un negro verdad? gurifanas need to deal with it and shut the fuck up. if they dont like it go back to africa with u

[mensa007]

actually the indigenous people of this continent is black. The olmecs built the pyramids and educated the the masses. And when you use the word nigger know that it comes from the word negra which in kemet times meant king or god. Indians are in the East. The people you talk about are the product of the Olmecs and the Orientals coming together. If you take a chinese woman and a nubian man they will create a "indian" as you erroreneously called them. So they only stupid one here is you.

[nipomocarlos]

vos sos pendexo sabeis que los indigenas no son de sangre negra aunque los negros hubieran mesclado con las indigenas. la palabra nigger vino de la palabra espagyola de negro porque la mayoria de los esclavos erea capturados por los espayoles e portugues educarse por favor.

[MESTIZO1492]

booooohhhh poor niggerr!!

[teemuruskeepaa]

What if tourism industry was banned by law, and only tent/caravan villages were allowed by the bed houses of the local population? No land would be "developed" in the name of hospitability. The nature and the local population would be left safe from the conflict between rich consumers from elsewhere.

[chris7777777777777]

they could use a change, its time the ignorance of man be eradicated and the demises of poverty be wiped clean from the future of the coming generations.  Economic advancement is the worlds only temporal hope. of course there are other factors, but were not going in that direction.

[MementoExpose]

these people seem cool!

[teemuruskeepaa]

Because they have no power?

[chris7777777777777]

the place looks horrible, build the hotels

[mutiilation]

you are a stupid peice of shit

[chris7777777777777]

lol, I was kidding

[PauloGVieira]

LOL the American nouveau riche is in no position to lecture!

[Downfacingdog]

Move over for the new world order.

[flamablesteve]

Hooray for one world government!

Hooray for absolute control!

[buffcity101]

world order base solely in the perpetuation of social and economic class divisions, it has never prevail the force of need of social justice and equality; the Honduras peaceful future rest in the hand of the today racist and classist...please avoid the undesirable future of chaos...your son and daughter are in danger.