i don't understand whats wrong with a male or female character. I mean there not real. Everyone arguing about a bunch of 0's and 1's, go out get your self two fire breathing whores and have a good time. When you come back you won't give a shit about a character in a game.
@sonicfanatic4949 how can it be gay to pick a female character? mate, if u wanna go around and watch a guys ass for ur intire game time, id rather watch a girls ass tbh, i dont judge u mate.
@theipodicus Hmm me going back English class, I don't think so?. As because i'm currently living in Asia, I speak & typing is half perfect, it just due to Grammar that all and If you wish to seek a person, with a Fuckin English broken, Spelling errors, lots of unbroken & mixing up the words. I do have one person, if you wish to visit the person so bye bye then!.
@Dragonshadow123 are you a child ? - being the same as wow is a good thing as wow is a good standard and tops the MMO subs - Rift is great, don't say otherwise Again, stalking me on my channel to see where i comment - idiot
@jakelilman it kind of depends on the server, some have more guardians, some have more defiants. So its pretty balanced, just go with whatever you like.
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hey man...i was wondering...how much does the beta lasts? cuz i got a gamespot key and i managed to make an account and i understood that i P2P so i wanna play it for a while....please reply and let me know...i hope theyll change it to free like they did to LOTRO...
I see you jake sully. Hahahaha. Btw your totally right. A saboteur blows shit up. Also does massive dmg on people. Set 5 charges on the other guy then detonate them all at once. Boom the opponents dead :P
y dude you nailed it. it isnt the 4 choices, it'sall the ones your current choice will lead to :p haha. Awesome vids man i'll be watching all of them.
i downloaded the patcher client or beta client or whatever but when it was done is just shows this little box with this crazy code shit and at the top it says this program cannot run in DOS mode! can anyone help me out?...i got a mac if that helps...:(
@punkstoper Shard means server but I guess you already knew that. The last Beta will start tuesday evening 19.00 GMT, you can't choose a shard until then as none of them are active until then.
I know I'll be playing Defiant for sure, and human of course because I, like you Jesse, am not big on being a Jake Sulley and his girlfriend or the big purple men.... but now I'm debating whether it will be he or she....shes are really hot...for pixels that is..haha....ha..
@IroncladSteam The next/final beta event starts February 15th and will last until the 21st. Headstart for the game for those who have access to it will start Feb 28th, I believe, and the official release is March 1st.
@IroncladSteam You can wait until the beta invite appears on your Trion account and download from there, or you can download Beta 6 and just patch it when beta 7 is released. If you check out the beta faq page, you should see a link to download the beta client (but at this point in time, it'll only download up to the last beta, hence the necessity to wait for the beta 7 patch next week). I haven't seen a download available anywhere for the actual client for headstart yet, however. Just beta, atm
I feel like this game will have a lot less twelve year old douches because neither of Rift's factions are evil. Whether some people want to admit this or not, the Horde has a ton of teenagers who roll undead characters because "evil is kewl".
@Bladenavor Well 1. Playing a female character usually tells other players that you "might" be a female and that can cause problems. 2. Some people like emersion and like to pick a character that they would want to be. 3. Why are you looking at your characters butt all day?
;0 I have the a beta Code and stuff but when I try to fill in the information probably before I have to enter the code, I get a message that says like "the beta is not availible at the time, please try again later" or something like that? Do I have to Pre-Order the game, or wait for beta 5 to launch or what? Please I really want to get in to this beta! I order you to reply if your reading this and have an answer! maybe Jessy could answer me or something! I'm just desperate for this beta! ;D Help
Jesse Gender Bender? Role playing as a woman? why a female avitar? I do not get why so many guys like to play as women. Sounds like some underlying issues.
@jrkh8er20 Actually, I choose the sex of my character based on my class, like I don't want a male character wearing a robe, and I don't want my fierce plate armor wearing warrior to be a female.... Is that ok with you sir?
@Tradegyxz Personally, I rarely play male characters simply because fantasy is a male dominated genre, and it's sad to see that female characters are treated as if all they're there for is to look sexy in revealing leather and just stand there while the men do all the work (which is why I respect Eowyn from LotR)
@Tradegyxz No, just saying that in general, fantasy protrays men as the constant heroes, with the women being housewives and whatnot. Sure enough, Im not trying to say "Do this" or "Do that", just giving my insight really.
@Stormwrench And I appreciate that, but most fantasy games/books/movies takes place many many years ago, back when men did all the physical work, and women did all the housekeeping.
@Stormwrench Well if you have some ideas for a great fantasy story, why don't you write them down? Maybe write a book, or just a shortstory, maybe some day, a game developer will want to use you story as a plot for their game.
@Tradegyxz I guess you may be surprised in that I've already finished the first draft of a novel. One which I've done a complete overhaul to make, well, better :P (going on 2 years in total at this stage)
That sentence without puntuation made me sound like some religious guy, no I'm an atheist. Lulz.
serverstuff 4 months ago
OhmyjesuscharactercustomisationistheWORSTpart of ANY FREKKIN' MMO
serverstuff 4 months ago
@serverstuff I think you are wrong. If you are gonna stare at someones ass for more then half you lifetime, you better get it right. xD
Metmovie 1 month ago
you sayin batmans a rouge
nifty13100 4 months ago in playlist Rift
2:46 oh she looks kinda cool eh? what if it was a man rouge what would he also look "kindda cool"
randommaster321 5 months ago
I pick girls to play, not because I'm gay (Which I definitely AM) I just don't like some male toons. :3
xXxChrisRawr 5 months ago
BTW, Jesse. My worgen's name is "Babygotbark" :)
A tribute, good sir!
WirlWind494 6 months ago 9
I gotta say, rift has some of the prettiest (imo) females in any MMO.
My toons all look very similar to this (But long dark hair ftw)
WirlWind494 6 months ago 3
i don't understand whats wrong with a male or female character. I mean there not real. Everyone arguing about a bunch of 0's and 1's, go out get your self two fire breathing whores and have a good time. When you come back you won't give a shit about a character in a game.
09KEVO09 6 months ago
lol Jesse you make me laugh :)
Megamarification 6 months ago
Why did you choose to play as a female? You gay or somethin?
sonicfanatic4949 6 months ago
@sonicfanatic4949 how can it be gay to pick a female character? mate, if u wanna go around and watch a guys ass for ur intire game time, id rather watch a girls ass tbh, i dont judge u mate.
goldenmulti 6 months ago
@goldenmulti
...Why are you staring at a guys ass anyway?
sonicfanatic4949 6 months ago
@goldenmulti im not, i roll females,
goldenmulti 6 months ago
everytime i listen to his intro i keep thinking "wtf how does he know my name"
thinkingdude20 6 months ago
When I get Rift I'm make a Kelari Female that's name is Oradina (Or•a•dine•a) and that server in gonna be in is Faeblight :) :)
LPSRocks2438 7 months ago
"Girl got a but"
roflcopterdustin 7 months ago
lol little did you know you would be building giant penis castles in minecraft in a few months
ThisisZealot 7 months ago
That hair aint normal!
lol
lulztip 8 months ago
at 3:44 she looks like 99 from Get Smart!
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@theipodicus Hmm me going back English class, I don't think so?. As because i'm currently living in Asia, I speak & typing is half perfect, it just due to Grammar that all and If you wish to seek a person, with a Fuckin English broken, Spelling errors, lots of unbroken & mixing up the words. I do have one person, if you wish to visit the person so bye bye then!.
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Dragonshadow123 8 months ago
@oPROxgaming everyone thinks that
MMOTotal 8 months ago
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Dragonshadow123 8 months ago
@Dragonshadow123 are you a child ? - being the same as wow is a good thing as wow is a good standard and tops the MMO subs - Rift is great, don't say otherwise Again, stalking me on my channel to see where i comment - idiot
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Dragonshadow123 8 months ago
@Dragonshadow123 GW2 is in beta - shows how much you know about your game - even i knew it was in beta
He said on twitter GW2 is not a priority or something interesting -
Tickling me is a sign of immaturity
MMOTotal 8 months ago
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Dragonshadow123 8 months ago
@Dragonshadow123 Jesse is in the SWTOR beta
MMOTotal 8 months ago
just go to 9:32 if you want to see him PLAY IN THE GAME!
Mriluvdrums 8 months ago
that is cleric hair!!!
Mriluvdrums 8 months ago
@Mriluvdrums You bitch and whine to much just watch the video and shut up.
PewFwoomPew 8 months ago
Does the game have a monthly fee?
PaladinPower811 8 months ago
@PaladinPower811 yes
JabbtothMultiplayer 8 months ago
@jakelilman it kind of depends on the server, some have more guardians, some have more defiants. So its pretty balanced, just go with whatever you like.
Der4on 9 months ago
@OMFGcata is there a more populated faction? Defiant? or Guardians? which have more players roughly?
jakelilman 9 months ago
Horrible hairchoice for a rogue!!
jakelilman 9 months ago
i fapped to this video
TheFlirk 9 months ago
I have the same issue when making a chara lol
nathantracey 9 months ago
did anyone else get chills watching the opening sence
JamesKirby1996 9 months ago
@JamesKirby1996 nope, found it quite disappointing actually
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automouse2dotcom 9 months ago
how many times did he sa "im an idiot"?
mrtretre345 9 months ago
Funkindatrunk!
000Dazz000 10 months ago
hey man...i was wondering...how much does the beta lasts? cuz i got a gamespot key and i managed to make an account and i understood that i P2P so i wanna play it for a while....please reply and let me know...i hope theyll change it to free like they did to LOTRO...
BreakdanceHysteria 10 months ago
@BreakdanceHysteria LOL...Rift...Free?
Yeah, when Blizzard pay you to play World of Warcraft, then it will be free.
Kylieminogue217 10 months ago
wow clone you can log in
TheGleitze 11 months ago
is there mounts and flying mounts and pvp and stuff?and battlegrounds!?
burke84 11 months ago
@burke84 Mounts: Yes.... Flying Mounts: Idk..... Pvp: Yes... Stuff: Yes.... Battlegrounds: Are Warfronts
Is that everything?
Marcus14444 10 months ago
look's like a copy of wow and dragon age..
Niiice O.o
xXxSnakierWolfxXx 11 months ago
whats aoe ?
ilovetejbz1 11 months ago
@ilovetejbz1 area of effect. (skills or spells that influence an area)
dreadlords121 11 months ago
@ilovetejbz1 Area of Effect... like Rain of Fire or something that hits multiple targets
Zachattack172 11 months ago
You think it's tough for you to make decisions Jesse?
I've spent over a week pondering over and trying to decide what role I should play, and I haven't even bought the game yet...
JesterDillon 11 months ago
idk guys this game looks very sexy but is it worth the money?
scarface456123789 11 months ago
im 100 percent like you i can never ever choose
toonlinklogigan 11 months ago
is that jack black?
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sunstoreap 11 months ago
You are a Rogue... Who doesn't wan't to go ranged, or sneak around a lot... hmmm... never play D&D...
thegrinchishot 11 months ago
i liked they part where he changed the hair color on the chick for 10mins. /facepalm
TheMoneymaker375 1 year ago
to buy or not to buy.... that is the question....
CryWolf915 1 year ago
can someone pls tell me where to find a beta??
archangelofhelld 1 year ago
Totally an Ass man.
Doublyrandom012 1 year ago
I see you jake sully. Hahahaha. Btw your totally right. A saboteur blows shit up. Also does massive dmg on people. Set 5 charges on the other guy then detonate them all at once. Boom the opponents dead :P
MrSmexxiFatman 1 year ago
Do you have to pay to play this?
iluvgames303 1 year ago
lmao Kane. ththat so automaticly puts Kane from C&C into my head.
OOMedmypants 1 year ago
Justin Bieber called, he wants he's hair back! LMAO! :D
vvJorgensen 1 year ago
if i made my first wow char, it was like: what kind of attacking do you like? melee or far? far! magic or bow? magic! Ur mage :D done lol
shadehealer 1 year ago
DUDE, THATS A FUCKING CLERIC OR HEALER HAIRSTYLE!!!!!!!
roflcopterdustin 1 year ago
holy balls why am i watching u make a character for 10 mins WTF
MoogatoMac 1 year ago 3
is there a subscription fee?
newrevenger1 1 year ago
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shuld i get Rift? the reason i am asking is because i used to play wow but got bored of it after awhile. so can someone help me out?
badcompany2fuku 1 year ago
"I like to focus on the hair because its the thing you stair at the most" Not if your a teenage boy playing a girl.
Razorblaze999 1 year ago 62
@Razorblaze999 if you look at your characters ass your a fucking moron.
MoogatoMac 1 year ago
@Razorblaze999 titties yeeeah
Akslol 11 months ago
@Razorblaze999 Especially if you are a teenage boy playing a girl =P
CommanderKylins 7 months ago
How much do you have to pay to play? or is it free?
JamezCraft 1 year ago
y dude you nailed it. it isnt the 4 choices, it'sall the ones your current choice will lead to :p haha. Awesome vids man i'll be watching all of them.
TraumaWard313 1 year ago
does any one know when we can stop reordering this game
AIejanclro 1 year ago
is it going to be f2p
cyborg19961 1 year ago
one of the best betas ive never played. cant wait till i can start to play on the headstart
GameOwnerer 1 year ago
when will this game be released? i wanna play
sofiemichelsen 1 year ago 3
@sofiemichelsen March 1 is release date, but if you preorder you can start playing Feb 24th I think?
OMFGcata 1 year ago 15
@OMFGcata Yup. Can't wait.
nazarous 1 year ago
@sofiemichelsen in europe it's released at march 4
keeshorror 1 year ago
im just sayin the quest accept / decline look quite alot like wow...
TheHa10 1 year ago
old spice ads are the best
111imstupid111 1 year ago
never give this guy options lol
jhonbroome23 1 year ago
"got a little rogue thing going on...xmen are looking for her!" Bahhahaa!
oli101red 1 year ago 2
same here it sucks i wnna play longer
MrLILMyk11 1 year ago
nooooo just got my beta invite....downloading game now and found out beta will be closed in 2 days:((((bugger:(
bejaises1 1 year ago
I like how neither of the sides seem like the 'bad' guys.
flamesRules 1 year ago
so does this suck as much as it looks like it does?
pandemonic01 1 year ago
@pandemonic01 No, it's actually quite awesome.
MultigrainMuffins 1 year ago
@MultigrainMuffins no I think it's actually quite fail...quite...
pandemonic01 11 months ago
i downloaded the patcher client or beta client or whatever but when it was done is just shows this little box with this crazy code shit and at the top it says this program cannot run in DOS mode! can anyone help me out?...i got a mac if that helps...:(
damon3011 1 year ago
:) justin biber called he wants his hair back :) :)
elcuera 1 year ago
@elcuera why u stealing other peoples comments noob
zildjianfan101 1 year ago
@zildjianfan101
boaaa calm down!! havent even looked at the comments before i wrote mine i'm sorry and if u like i can remove it
dmt freek out^^
elcuera 1 year ago
1st 9 minutes may as well have been a Barbie Build-A-Doll workshop.
1decline 1 year ago
@1decline Haha good one
DragonBladeX 1 year ago
The ultimate evil? More like Prophet Velen gone bad.
Turns out we ARE still in Azeroth after all.
IICrraazzyII 1 year ago
i really hate when people steal your names D:
ADAMWESTSLAPDOGSFAN 1 year ago
supah, secret of da night! reminds me why i love watching your vids jesse, you remind me of... me
MagnusHarvest 1 year ago
its brighter cos you turned off shadows :D
MrRazzmataz 1 year ago
@MrRazzmataz i cant enter rift it just shows that the shards are locked
teo2cry 1 year ago
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MrRazzmataz 1 year ago
is the beta free ? and it works in europe?
TheSughibughi 1 year ago
@TheSughibughi yea i have it and i am in Europe
teo2cry 1 year ago
@TheSughibughi Yes and yes. Open Beta from feb. 15th to feb 21st. Game launches on March 4th in Europe.
Tickelberg 1 year ago
Help me please. it won't come up with anything when I log onto the game and it loads... it just says choose Shard help!!!!!!!!!!!!
punkstoper 1 year ago
@punkstoper Shard means server but I guess you already knew that. The last Beta will start tuesday evening 19.00 GMT, you can't choose a shard until then as none of them are active until then.
Tickelberg 1 year ago
@Tickelberg ok Thanks for the help.
punkstoper 1 year ago
Help me please. it won't come up with anything
punkstoper 1 year ago
Justin Bieber called, he wants his hair back. lmao
iam1in1 1 year ago
I know I'll be playing Defiant for sure, and human of course because I, like you Jesse, am not big on being a Jake Sulley and his girlfriend or the big purple men.... but now I'm debating whether it will be he or she....shes are really hot...for pixels that is..haha....ha..
derekgornall 1 year ago
Am i the only one who's noticed in almsot every game like this the big main boss is always (name) The Destroyer xD
Riotbringer 1 year ago
9:27 "Lets do this..." after that I was expecting:
LEEEERRRROOOOYYY JEEEEENNNKKIIIIIINNSSSSS!!!!!!!
Zoran54321 1 year ago
what about the chest, can you make it begger :D
Lordseydious 1 year ago
@Lordseydious No, sorry.:P
Tickelberg 1 year ago
when is beta 7 coming out cause i preorderd the digital version for trion cause im supposed to be able to play it
IroncladSteam 1 year ago
@IroncladSteam The next/final beta event starts February 15th and will last until the 21st. Headstart for the game for those who have access to it will start Feb 28th, I believe, and the official release is March 1st.
JBthatguy00 1 year ago
@JBthatguy00
thx and do u kno how a download the preorder...im guessing i
download beta 7 and i can just upgrade that when the head start begins
IroncladSteam 1 year ago
@IroncladSteam You can wait until the beta invite appears on your Trion account and download from there, or you can download Beta 6 and just patch it when beta 7 is released. If you check out the beta faq page, you should see a link to download the beta client (but at this point in time, it'll only download up to the last beta, hence the necessity to wait for the beta 7 patch next week). I haven't seen a download available anywhere for the actual client for headstart yet, however. Just beta, atm
JBthatguy00 1 year ago
@JBthatguy00
Thanks alot friend!!!!!
IroncladSteam 1 year ago
@JBthatguy00 Febuary 24th*
HirachieOfSociety 1 year ago
@HirachieOfSociety you're right, my bad!
JBthatguy00 1 year ago
I feel like this game will have a lot less twelve year old douches because neither of Rift's factions are evil. Whether some people want to admit this or not, the Horde has a ton of teenagers who roll undead characters because "evil is kewl".
IJUSTLOVETURTLES 1 year ago
I like your voice... No really, its nice and funny
Mattowii123 1 year ago
ty man, enjoy the commentary
TheBrye1 1 year ago
Wow, I saw the game on the Steam store, and searched for it on YouTube, and OMFGcata just happens to have a video. Awesome!
salvo711 1 year ago
Haha, i'm exactly the same with characters I spend ages trying for the thing that is perfect and the name is usually the hardest.
aarmy1237 1 year ago
cool stuff
Taelaspwnz 1 year ago
dank........lol
iNickMoGaming 1 year ago
If this video was done by anybody else it would be boring. Thanks Jesse for making it interesting. :)
Zillatha 1 year ago
Can i have your old computer :)
sk8sheff 1 year ago
@XDCabooseXDOwnzXD how do you know is he your boyfriend
koced1 1 year ago
@koced1 Jesse said that in the video...
CraftyGamer 1 year ago
@koced1 fail troll :D
Flakiy 1 year ago
you remind me of myself tbh. no joke. XD
Bladenavor 1 year ago
DONT EVER PLAY THE SIMS!
TheMrparrot 1 year ago
What kind of selfrespecting dude plays a GIRL. lmao.
RMJ1984 1 year ago
@RMJ1984 so you enjoy looking at mens rears all day?
Bladenavor 1 year ago
@Bladenavor Well 1. Playing a female character usually tells other players that you "might" be a female and that can cause problems. 2. Some people like emersion and like to pick a character that they would want to be. 3. Why are you looking at your characters butt all day?
Shruken18 1 year ago
what is it with people always being girls on lets plays of mmos!
SuperGamerVideos 1 year ago
Im soo glad he didnt choose the mage... everyone chooses the mage
skysnipeh 1 year ago
03:45 that laugh and comment. so funny to me. even tho i dont have any thing against jb :p lol
kezma87 1 year ago
I WANT TO MAKE A ROUGE DRESSED IN BRIGHT PSYCADELIC COLOR SCHEMES AND THEN WALK AROUND AND STEALTHILY ASSASSINATE PEOPLE
Codenamel3oom1 1 year ago
Damn she actually looks like a girl i know... except the clothes.
nacho9992 1 year ago
Just made my first Rift Beta commentary showing the Character creation and the first quest, come and check it out :P
TheLoudHawk 1 year ago
I see You JAKE Suuullly! lmao that was epic man. lovd ur vid.
MeOw4L 1 year ago 25
lol 1:35 "Auchlauauau"
Eldapan 1 year ago
;0 I have the a beta Code and stuff but when I try to fill in the information probably before I have to enter the code, I get a message that says like "the beta is not availible at the time, please try again later" or something like that? Do I have to Pre-Order the game, or wait for beta 5 to launch or what? Please I really want to get in to this beta! I order you to reply if your reading this and have an answer! maybe Jessy could answer me or something! I'm just desperate for this beta! ;D Help
PlastKladd 1 year ago
Jesse fucking cocks it took u fucking 10min to choose between the bitch should have green or purple hair. MOVE ON
warsicklol 1 year ago
she looks like Megan fox imo
flamefox0138 1 year ago
Lol "Justin Bieber called, he wants his hair back."
SoleAppleZ 1 year ago 7
@SoleAppleZ just bieber never had no hair in the first place...if you know what i mean :D
Flamez2k10 1 year ago
This game looks better than WoW
TheGoldendude3 1 year ago
so your a woMAN
hobgobhunt 1 year ago
Jesse Gender Bender? Role playing as a woman? why a female avitar? I do not get why so many guys like to play as women. Sounds like some underlying issues.
zy1980core 1 year ago
@zy1980core Would u rather look at a womans butt while playing, or a mans butt? ... Just sayin'
Tradegyxz 1 year ago
@Tradegyxz Both you and Zy fail for basing character choice on sexual attraction.
jrkh8er20 1 year ago
@jrkh8er20 Actually, I choose the sex of my character based on my class, like I don't want a male character wearing a robe, and I don't want my fierce plate armor wearing warrior to be a female.... Is that ok with you sir?
Tradegyxz 1 year ago
@Tradegyxz What's wrong with a woman wearing plate armour?
Stormwrench 1 year ago
@Stormwrench Doesn't look right ... to me.
Tradegyxz 1 year ago
@Tradegyxz Personally, I rarely play male characters simply because fantasy is a male dominated genre, and it's sad to see that female characters are treated as if all they're there for is to look sexy in revealing leather and just stand there while the men do all the work (which is why I respect Eowyn from LotR)
Stormwrench 1 year ago
@Stormwrench Isn't fantasy games all about using your imagination? Is your imagination dominated by male characters?
Tradegyxz 1 year ago
@Tradegyxz No, just saying that in general, fantasy protrays men as the constant heroes, with the women being housewives and whatnot. Sure enough, Im not trying to say "Do this" or "Do that", just giving my insight really.
Stormwrench 1 year ago
@Stormwrench And I appreciate that, but most fantasy games/books/movies takes place many many years ago, back when men did all the physical work, and women did all the housekeeping.
Tradegyxz 1 year ago
@Tradegyxz I guess, but there is always room for more women like Joan d'Arc in fantasy :P
Stormwrench 1 year ago
@Stormwrench Well if you have some ideas for a great fantasy story, why don't you write them down? Maybe write a book, or just a shortstory, maybe some day, a game developer will want to use you story as a plot for their game.
Tradegyxz 1 year ago
@Tradegyxz I guess you may be surprised in that I've already finished the first draft of a novel. One which I've done a complete overhaul to make, well, better :P (going on 2 years in total at this stage)
Stormwrench 1 year ago