Does Religion Promote Racist Sexism? Or does Colonialism?

[nyccarini]

i do think that because i believe that you have an agenda putting videos like this up.i think that your trying to send a message and your reacton to a simple question has made me skeptical.i dont understand what cartoons have to do with this unless your trying to call me childish. see the irony here???

[makezmuzic]

Only a child would think there is any connection between my being on oxygen and this video. Yes I am calling you childish. The cartoons, games on your channel give the impression of immaturety. You initial comment reinforces it.

[apologeticsman]

Religion may be guilty of promoting racism and sexism, but Jesus is not.

[makezmuzic]

I have a hard time believing he promoted that kind of behavior myself. There are people that will twist anything to rationalize hate. I believe there is a difference between Christianity and Jesus. It's hard to really know what he really did say. Unless you read amaric. There are also so many books of the Bible we aren't allowed to have access to.

[bebop54]

thank you for this very poignant commentary ...

[makezmuzic]

Thank you for taking the time to watch Bebop. We MUST eliminate violence against women, girls, of ALL races & classes, in all nations.

Peace

[makezmuzic]

We must also make sure that no ONE group of men is blamed for what is going on. It's an issue we ALL must work on.

[bebop54]

absolutely ! ....

[AtlantaSistah]

I am just seeing this video. I am going to feature it on my page. Great vid.

[makezmuzic]

Thank you Atlanta Sistah. That means a lot coming from you. you are definately one of the sharpest people, Sister, woman I have met here on YT. I really appreciate when you take the time to check out my vids.

And definately honored that you would add it to your channel. Thank you. Sistah.

[corrinecurry]

this is a work of art a master of logic and truth and her best GREAT video and the side note about the black men being afraid to attack the upperclass is so true

[makezmuzic]

Thank you Corrine. FMy Mother used to tell me that fear of a task is often bigger than the task itself.

[Jwrita4]

wow this vid is just excellent makez!! def spoken with lots of valid points!!

[makezmuzic]

Thank you J. It makes me think about that Boston School dist article you shared. Please share it if you feel like it. I hope people write that school district and protest.

[bebop54]

thanks 'J'....

[marcdaddy33]

Now, as I said before, makezmusic, this is all speculation. I cannot say for certain that those are the motivations of the bashers as I don't watch most of their videos or know them personally or through their videos.

I could be dead wrong... but I could be SPOT ON with my analysis.

At any rate, makezmusic, this was a good discussion.

Check u later

peace

[makezmuzic]

Thank you for your input Marc. Always appreciated. You could verywell be right on spot with you analysis. While I have some knowledge on the issue, I will never have the insight that you as a man has on where men are coming from. Not to mention that there are so many veriables.

Sending much peace to you and yours. It was a good convo. :o) Pleasure to meet you.

[marcdaddy33]

So as a result they might lash out at BW

Now it seems a lot of BW like to assume that it is the first possibility, where the BM was rejected by BW and simply angry about that... and many of them decide to use that a crutch to dismiss any possible constructive criticism that the BM might have because "he just mad that BW don't want him".

BUT a lot of the bashers are also simply frustrated about the state of the black community and they have nearly GIVEN UP on BW ever listening.

[marcdaddy33]

So with respect to the men who actually ARE bashing BW in the video (and in the comments) there could be any number of reasons for their behaviors, from something as simple as anger at being constantly skipped over by BW for "thugs", to frustration with the downhill direction of BW and the black community... and a feeling of HELPLESSNESS in this respect because they are able to see what will happen to the black community if change doesn't happen and it seems that BW don't want to listen.

[marcdaddy33]

...in what they say with respect to addressing the issues- though their methods are no good and better left unsaid, as they are doing more harm than any possible good.

Having said all of that, with respect to the BM on YT who bash? I don't know them personally and I don't frequent their videos much (there's only a handful of BM who's videos I watch cuz I like the way they argue their points, even if I disagree).

So at best, I will only be SPECULATING at their motivations.

[marcdaddy33]

Hey what's up makezmusic?

Before I answer your questions I first want to say a couple of things and lay them on the table:

First, before my going into the possible motivations of the bashers, we have to recognize that you and I (and anyone else) might disagree on who are actually bashing BW and who are giving constructive criticism. One person might see a particular YT BM as bashing while another might see that same 1 as not.

I often see some BM called bashers when they are nothing of the sort

[marcdaddy33]

Now, those two areas of disagreement aside... these videos were VERY INFORMATIVE and I enjoyed them. You provided a lot of historical context relating to White Supremacy and it's effects not only within the community, but globally.

I definitely agree with u that a lot of black men, and oppressed men globally, internalize White Supremacy and take it out on their women... but again, I DISAGREE with the idea that the BM on YT are motivated by sexism.

Still, GREAT series and response to CS129

[makezmuzic]

Again, thak you Marcdaddy, for you comments. May I ask what you believe the negative fraction of BM on YT are motivated by?

Not the real Brothers, there are many Brothers speaking from a place of concern, & frustration & the true desire for us to work things out. I'm asking your opinion on the "haters". On the Brothers on YT who practice the hateful, abusive behavior their comments hit, & speak of.

Thanks.

[marcdaddy33]

... and brothas are simply discussing a long overdue topic. Maybe some of them are approaching the discussion of Black women's problem in a manner that is not helpful, but I object to the idea (though not explicit) that merely discussing these issues is akin to sexism.

I also VEHEMENTLY disagree with th insinuation that the discussion on YT by BW are similar the killing of women. I find that insulting. The black community is in a CRITICAL state and BOTH black men and women need to fix issues

[marcdaddy33]

With all due respect, makezmusic- I have to disagree with the contention that the brothas on youtube who are speaking out on REAL ISSUES with respect to the behaviors of SOME black women are motivated by sexism.

SOME of the brothas are motivated by a certain level of sexism... HOWEVER, both black men and women have their issues. Black men's issues (crime, etc) have been discussed relentlessly in the media and the community, yet the negative behaviors of SOME BW have not...

[makezmuzic]

Thank you for taking the time to watch my vid, and for commenting. I am not speaking towards the Brothers, BM who are raising real issues, asking real questions, working towards REAL solutions with real dialoge.

We DO have some very deep issues we need to work through. My issue is with the Brothers who are hatefullly tageting BW here on YT.

[marcdaddy33]

No problem, sister. thanks for sharing your thoughts in your videos.

PEACE

[maipai101]

You know what while blacks are complaining. What about the Native Americans? They have it hard too.

[makezmuzic]

Thats what I mean Maipai, racist sexism is  devistating many communities. We all have more in commen that we think.

[LECLARA]

Maybe that's what some of us are afraid of?

[makezmuzic]

Leclare, your comment has more truth to it than anyone wants to admit. Excellent insight.