@DavidRussell323 The story of creation is just a story. Kind of like a fable, that basically gives us lessons about faith. The lesson in creation is that God created everything, and saw that it was good. Everything you see was made by God. I believe God did make everything, but through the Big Bang and evolution. The whole "7 Day Creation" sets a symbolic foundation for the rest of the bible stories to reference back to, so they can emphasize the topics of original sin and God choosing man for
@CosmicKunai They go well together, up to the point where you remember that the Bible is supposed to be infallible and intelligent design and evolution clash
First of all, that's called getting better, not disproving. You build upon knowledge to understand more and better.
Second, what exactly is it that has been disprooved in the last decade? Gravity? we have that theory right since Newton, and it's only gotten vaster and better with Einstein.
Atomic Theory?1 century, Heliocentric theory? 400 years,Darwinian Evolution? 150 years, not to mention Euclidian Geometry (+2500 years)
@matthewbhyde You clearly do not understand what science is. And since your misconceptions could have been dispelled in a couple of minutes on Wikipedia, or even with Google, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you do not want to know learn, and have already decided to not make any effort towards understanding. I'm guessing you are some sort of creationist or something like that. Have fun with your magic sky-man, or leprechaun or whatever you have decided is the "real truth."
@matthewbhyde I think that our knowledge of science constantly evolving due to new information and technology becoming available makes a lot more sense than listening to a book of desert fairy tales written 2000 years ago.
This is great. Science IS real from the Big Bang, evolution and the Milky Way. The only problem is, science needs the to/from and before/after of spacetime. Assuming there is no reality outside of spacetime is presumptuous.
Yes, yes sorry 10 "super basic moralistic rules" were left by the extraterrestrial's, we added the last 2 later...as we got smarter, just as we rewrote the bible to suit the social fabric of the times it (the church) was trying to tame.
Amen to that "The big difference between religion and science is that science puts its assertions to the test. Scientists are willing to accept that they might be wrong, you see, and they want to be sure that they are right. So they test their assertions. And ask other people to test their assertions. And when the results come in, they don't try to avoid the implications.
Religion? not so much. And that's the difference."
Your god was an extraterrestrial, when he and his disciples LOL visited from another universe they felt pity for our kind (so slowly evolving) & gave us an advanced lesson in SCIENCE + splicing their DNA (very similar) with ours, hence our leaps & bounds in scientific discovery for the last 5000yrs compared with the previous homo-sapiens of 200-400000 yrs ago. They may have also said we will return don't destroy yourselves in the meantime, please abide by these 12 super basic moralistic rules.
The atheists in these comments are all so condescending. "Oh no, someone out there believes that there might be a higher meaning of existence! I have to tell them how wrong and gullible and stupid they are on a Youtube video FOR CHILDREN."
Science is real and science is magic, so magic is real! If you look at what the alchemists were trying to achieve look no further than modern science, we call it technology but it is magic, to say that magic is not real but science is real is to say that the world is made of language which runs counter to what people that believe in science say Vs. what science is....magic.
@allthingsarelikethis No, science is not magic. Alchemy was more of a philosophy than anything else, really. Unlike modern science, it incoporated unscientific things like the Hermetic principles and spirituality.
Hear what God of Israel YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH (Son and Father are ONE) saying to our generation by His chosen prophets: Trumpetcallofgodonline. com ; Letter called "Purify Your Faith, and Come to the Father as It is Written": EXCERPT: "Only in the Bible and through these very Letters, of which I have given to My prophet of the end of this age, shall you find Him and know Him."
Yes science IS REAL! Science says what real is and then it is real! Fantastic, I wonder if it works across scale, the bible thumper says the bible is the word of god and that god IS REAL! If the bible says so and it is the word of god then god MUST BE REAL!
Wow it does work it is almost as if the rules for what can be accepted into reality are made up by the people who invent systems of belief, strange it is like there is no way to prove the systems wrong outside of the systems themselves.
@Chibling Again I did not say anything about science having nothing of use or importance, it is just perspective to extrapolate the position that sciece understands lifes origins or has a sound philosophical position to assert that primates can understand the universe in the first place or an ability to explain how we know that measurements have any relationship to nature itself or if this is just a symbolic construct to simplify the universe and world to men.
@raptorinator That is a gripping argument but again, do we not have to define real before you can say what is real? You might be able to just BELIEVE in science but how do you know that a measurement is more real than a thought?
Here is a clue, you are going to actually think about this question and answer it with a little detail and not just call me a name, otherwise you sound like a dork.
@BlazedBastar666 Dude I am calm, and Jesus is as silly as most of the defenders of science AS REAL in this video. it is just too simple to say science IS REAL this is not giving the subject enough consideration.
Actually, Christians don't believe both the Big Bang or Evolution, not enough facts to support them any ways. I can understand how a salt-water crocodile can adapt to become a fresh-water crocodile but that's different from turning from a rock into a crocodile...
@nightflyer9kpoplove "rock into a crocodile" No one has ever argued that such a thing has ever happened. "A salt-water crocodile can adapt to become a fresh-water crocodile" is evolution, congrats. Also, COSMIC BACKGROUND RADIATION indicates Big Bang, woohoo. lern 2 science kthxbai
Yeah what's the scientific method ever done for anyone except eradicate thousands of horrible diseases, put men on the moon, help feed half the planet, oh and even make that silly computer you use to spout your ignorance!
@plaidchuck Yes science and the method of has helped to "cure" diseases and make it easier for all of us to live and now we have 7 billion people destroying the planet using hitich gadets created by science to help destroy it even faster.
Outside of videos that may have been staged the moon is hardly anything to be excited about I mean what good has this done us?
What about the other half of the planet that lives on less than $2 per day?
@plaidchuck Yes there are things that are nice about technology and the things that science has produced such as the PC but we would not be living in such a paradigm that depends on virtual experiences if we were a society that valued actual experience.
It seems to me that experience is far more important than measurements, I could be wrong but I just don't understand how it is that we know that measurements are soo important?
@Darshkfletcher Thanks for the highlights of understood cosmology, what I was asking for is something that is "true" to everyone, which to me means that everyone on earth knows it and would give a very similar account.
It is a question of subjective Vs. objective as I am trying to figure out where this "objective" reality exists. It is epistomolgy in a way as I would like to know how we know that measurements are 'reality" how did we decide this?
@allthingsarelikethis Uh, we didn't. Reality is objective. It doesn't care about your subjective, personal decisions. However, in order to describe objectivity, we have to rely on a really shitty series of subjective communication methods, so people studying objective reality need to have a common method of description. We call that method of description "science" and "scientific jargon." If you don't like it, get out of the fucking pool.
@jumpmonkey03 So then YOUR definition of what REALITY IS lines up with whatever "science" says? So it just depends on what the current understanding across all fields of science think currently and somehow YOU KNOW them to be the most real.....how? Is it not just your faith in science and not science itself that you speak of when you say that reality IS objective, again who is it objective to?
@allthingsarelikethis I think you mean aesthetics. ascetic = denier of pleasure aesthetics = sense of what is beautiful/true
i would say science is things that everyone can detect and agree on (what atoms cling to which, for instance), whereas religion is ONE BIG ARGUMENT. True should be true for everyone.
@Beandude202 Science does not "disprove" myths. You cannot disprove these things, religion is just a man made control system but the myths behind it are actually not that crazy when given a modern perspective as in the Aliens in the Bible thought process. The strange and very common story of the "gods" of all ancient people may very well have a place even in the so called reality that science lays claim to.
Perhaps my word choice was a bit ambiguous. Science cannot absolutely disprove the concept of a god or gods, that's true. But it can conclusively demonstrate that many of the beliefs that religious followers hold on to are simply ridiculous.
@Beandude202 True enough from the perspective of science. That being said it is not ridiculous to the faith driven christian and who is to say which is right when science says it only uses facts and the chistian says that the bible is fact. It seems that neither is "true" just ascetic and we are all governed by our ascetic.
@allthingsarelikethis It was a meme on twitter. Something started in response to someone making a claim with no evidence and then saying "Well I'm entitled to believe it because you can't prove me wrong". Unfortunately, the person making the claim ie. that there is a god/are gods has the burden of proof.
So where are the SCIENTISTS who have been demanding accurate data on the distributions of steel and concrete down the twin towers for the last TEN YEARS?
@Cristofre I get it you're funny! But again how do YOU know that physical reality IS reality? Where is the gnome sitting at the flame of universal truth that says that current human understanding of the physical universe IS REALITY?
There is no independent varification, just human understanding and the ego to back it up using the systems that say that it is true in the first place, it is a belief in human understanding and only the current understanding at that .
The "current understanding" is just that, its what we know right now. Science is not set in stone like myths. Science is just a system of verification of observations- it is not anti-religion, anti-unicorn, or anti anything.
Science doesn't care if flying monkeys created the earth- if they did, then science will eventually explain it.
@Cristofre Given the history of current understandings being elaborated on does it not stand to reason that theories of today too will be elaborated on? This being said, I know science is not my enemy, I love science, I just don't hold it as a truth paradigm that the world must fit into to be real. I don't BELIEVE that humans can understand the nature of the universe simply through current understandings of physical reality.
@Cristofre I don't think even the myths are set in stone, there are hundreds of translations of the bible some change the world dragon to jackel. I don't think there is much difference between belief in science Vs. belief in a specific religion. They are both manifestations of man trying to make sense of something that is just here to be experienced and contextualized meaning that both science and relgion are products of culture control grids.
@allthingsarelikethis The big difference between religion and science is that science puts its assertions to the test. Scientists are willing to accept that they might be wrong, you see, and they want to be sure that they are right. So they test their assertions. And ask other people to test their assertions. And when the results come in, they don't try to avoid the implications.
@jjgdenisrobert There are many differences between religion and science and there are many differences in one religion to the next. But all religions and science still have a common origin and are paradigms in which huge groups of people view the world and claim truth in these mere perspectives which are true only to the paradigm and the rules set up within the contruct of the system or atleast it seems clear to me. :P
@allthingsarelikethis I can appreciate your tone in this conversation HOWEVER... Science is true...because it IS TRUE. Not because it says so...not because of human ego or anything else. The idea that science should require independent varification is kinda silly. Until someone comes up with something better then science, then its the gold standard.
@Tiptoetherat How does one define truth? Is it field oriented? I mean if you BELIEVE that humans can understand the universe using current understanding is this not just truth from a perspective of humans? And who is to say that humans CAN know the truth? Is this not just a bed time story that someone out there is working on all of the secrets of why we are here and where we are going? As for science as the gold factor I think this too is a perspective.
@allthingsarelikethis What a load of BS! Do you trust just any "perspective" to tell you whether something is edible or poison? Is it just a matter of perspective, that if you jump from a high building, you're likely to die?
What you're talking about is just a bunch of idiotic postmodernist junk. It's funny that religions claim to have absolute truth, but believers will resort to the worst kind of relativism to defend their right to claim absolute truth...
@jjgdenisrobert No I trust only my perspective and I only trust in the moment as it is an evolving process. One can use science and any collective knowledge and still not believe that the paradigm of the source of said knowledge is universal truth or a paradigm that must be believed to be true.
What you say about relgion is somewhat true but it could be said about science as well as there is not such thing as absolute truth only human perspectives.
@ButTheCatCameBack really? I didnt pick up on that, but there is a logial thing this video could teach alot of religious people. Science is REAL, your beliefs have to change for what is real, because you cannot change what is real.
and the gods honest truth, is that IF there is a god . . . how else other than science are we goign to discover god!!!! throught understanding of the universe, because if (and I stress that if) if god is real . . . then he is a part of it all . . . thus science!!!
@ButTheCatCameBack okay, now I have picked up on it I was listening too it on my ipod the first few times and that part for some reason went "swoosh" right over my head
but honestly. . . I find that pretty respective the way they handle it, they say yeah these things arent bad but dont loose your footing in reality . . . a good lesson
How does one define real? If you BELIEVE that physical reality IS reality and you BELIEVE that science is "real" then you have to BELIEVE that science in its current understanding across all fields and theories has completed and put to rest all questions about reality. Given the history of theories and the way that theories throughout history have been revised and updated isn't this just a blanket belief rather then skeptical thought process?
@allthingsarelikethis Belief does not have a place in science. Belief is not knowing. You fail basic scientific conceptualization. The only people who make your style of arguments are non-scientists. Even try to ask that question at a real meeting of the minds and you'll be laughed out.
@AntiChristAntiFail So again if you BELIEVE that science in its current understanding IS REALITY rather then just using information given by science to help sort out what is going on then you have a BELIEF in science rather than just a use for it.
As for a "real meeting of the minds" who decides what this verbage means? Let me guess science! I just don't BELIEVE that science is a meta theory that all other world views must bow to for approval and you seem to BELIEVE that they do.
Are you seeking truth? Search "Truth Contest" in Google and click the 1st result, then click on "The Present." What it says will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people. You will see what I mean when you read the first page.
@2010theawesomeness I don't think you really understand how evolution works. Don't be offended, a lot of people don't. Humans share a common ancestor with apes. The evidence is in the fossil record and our DNA.
You are also correct that, in several cases, DNA was rejected by scientists. It was also proposed by scientists. For an example of observations that weren't science, we can look at superstitions and myth, such as "Thor causes lightning." People observed lightning, but they didn't -test- lightning. They skipped the most important step, and instead just fathomed that Thor caused lightning, rather than putting it to the test.
Science isn't merely observation, its empiricism combined with theory. What goes up must come down is rudimentary, but still scientific. And observation (things going up and coming down) was tested (tossing things in the air) and proven. More complex science determined that these things fall at the same speed, neglecting air resistance. That this speed is determined by the size of the thing exerting gravity, etc.
Why do people believe any form of knowledge is Science? Science Claims anything from the evolving Tadpole, To gravity is Science. For thousands of Years we've realized Tadpoles became Frogs; we didn't need the conformation of Science. We've always believed; "What Goes Up, Must Come Down", We didn't need an Apple to fall onto someones Head and science to say, "Yes! Believe in Gravity! It's Science!". DNA was Rejected Multiple Times by Scientists; and once proven corrected, "It's all science"
@Courteousness Science is defined as systematized knowledge in general. Gravity isn't "what goes up must come down." Gravity is G[(m1m2)/r²]. This explains why there is anything south of the equator. Science gives us the law of universal gravitation. Tadpoles do not evolve into frogs, they metamorphose. With science, we know how they do it. DNA was rejected until proven correct because that's how science works. We don't teach geocentricism, do we? Why not? Because it hasn't been proven.
@AkatsukiPR0 Science can be defined as One Single Word. Truth. By saying that, any attempt of discovering truth shouldn't be classified as Science, statements like; "Without Science we wouldn't be living in this Modern Day and Age, state that science within itself caused where we are, I'm sure 400 Years ago, when we were building Homes and Castles; they weren't worrying about science. Science is People, searching truth, science Is just a Word in my presumption
Youtubers, please take a moment to consider this quote by the great Carl Sagan:
"Mindless entertainment in our free time should be replaced by intellectually valuable things that are equally entertaining. Brain Building by Marilyn vos Savant and other books like it do a good job of laying out all the ways education and intelligence can help us and more importantly how to foster intellectual growth. There are so many wonders that knowledge and the intellect can bring us." - Carl Sagan
Some commenters here mock science because it revises its knowledge base when new information is learned. You think that is a BAD thing? Really?
The alternative, via religion, is to cling to bronze-age superstitions that contradict the real world as it is now commonly known and understood. Science is the best tool that humans have to understand the world that actually exists.
The Sun is made of Gas. We know this because science is real. No, wait! It's made out of Plasma! We know this because science is "real". The universe is 65% dark energy. We don't know what dark energy really is, but it must exist, because if it isn't there it means we have to rethink all kinds of things, and we just can't accept that we don't have a clue. Another13% of the universe is dark matter. We don't know what that is either, but it must be real because science is real! And
Science is real; like the Big Babg theory. Except that it had to be totally reworked in 1998 because they found out thast the theory was absolutely wrong. So they invented some abstract notions; like Dark Matter and Dark Energy. Never mind that they had no definitions for the terms. They had the terms and that was enough to "fix" the theory.
wow, I do hope most of the stupid anti-science comments are just sarcastic... or are we really going to do the Inquisition again? Ok, the earth is flat and the stars are just paint dots in the sky and God planted the dinosaur bones to fool scientists...sure. Incredible fools.
First off, great CD! Second, if you think science is unbiased guess what, you just stated your biased opinion. Of course science is biased. Everyone is biased. How exactly could biased mortals devise a way to objectively view the world? Or know it if they did? Just like everything else science has it's own set of underlying assumption (hypothetical constructs for example). Even science admits it is biased. Look up some studies on 'confirmation bias' in science. Science is great but not perfect.
@TheMessie27 Minor correction: Science isn't biased, scientists (being people, just like everyone else) are biased. Science doesn't have a bias, being an idea and all. :)
@TheMessie27 People are biased, but science isn't. Science is facts, or what we think are facts, facts aren't biased. Here's an example. "PIE IS THE BEST THING EVER." Is a biased opinion, as you obviously at the very least like pie. "Pie is made of atoms," Fact, because no matter your bias, you can agree on that. Plus nobody ever said science is perfect, recently we discovered a partical that goes faster than light, disproving Eistien. What makes science great is that it is flexible.
@partyxday No we did not do any such thing. Some scientists got some strange results showing neutrinos moving faster than light. But there's a 99.99% chance they either made a slight mistake in the math (at the precision they are dealing with you have to take into account that relativity says that time will be "slower" as you go deeper into the Earth since the gravity becomes lower - more mass is above you) or in their measurements.
Still they just just might have, which would be awesome.
@stoney490 Not really. Those that are really snarky are the ones that force us to make songs reminding people that science is real. Like creationists...
I think all of you that are debating this need to read "Science as Storytelling" by B.R. Bickmore. It may open all of your eyes a little more. Just a suggestion from a christian geology major.
@totalliokie21 no, I tend not to write sarcastically on the internet, unless it is so exagerrated that it is obvious. Sorry if it came off that way, I am actually sincerely interested, thank you! :D
You know, and I am not trying to debate btw, as a Christian, I respect other beliefs, and I am here reading some ugly comments, and some provokative questions wondering, do others respect my beliefs? do I have so scientifically quantify such notions as freedom, faith, and love in order to gain respect? Because that is not possible. You cant quantify and *idea* using *reality*, it doesn't work that way, so I only ask that we may get along instead of being posteriors to others.....
@filmjunkie998 .......My belief is valid, not because I have evidence, but because there is no way to empirically gather evidence, there is NO evidence, so I only say, please don't judge a book by it's cover. People are People, beliefs aren't people, political parties aren't people, and that's all I'm saying. Thanks for reading, and have a nice day.
@SanguineBullet667 no sir I am not. Because respecting someone else who holds different beliefs does not mean I am worshiping their beliefs. That makes no sense, and is a logical fallacy. I simply respect others, you however clearly don't. I rest my case, other decent people will see your sorry attitude, and decide to be a little more respectful to everyone, not just 'their belief'.
@filmjunkie998 you are going in direct contradiction to the command to spread the gospel and the one and only God. All other Gods are false and diminutive to the human spirit according to both the old and new testament. The very nature of your religion doesn't even allow tolerance !
@SanguineBullet667 you obviously are a troll, or you clearly don't understand what I am talking about. I'm guessing both. I suppose turning the other cheek isn't "tolerant" or am I just being arbitrary again? Just because I may believe other Gods are false doesn't necessarily constitute that all other people who are different should be hated. where does it say to hate people? it doesn't, it says to forgive people and to treat others with respect....which is what I am doing. Goodbye troll.
@SanguineBullet667 btw, just posting on this page is 'spreading' idealogies, which means if you think it is bad...maybe you shouldn't comment as an atheist...unless you are no better than christians of course.
@Chunnyie Then why how are you on a computer, after all science is wrong, isn't it? And science made technology, so any good person wouldn't use such a demonic device, yes?
@DavidRussell323 The story of creation is just a story. Kind of like a fable, that basically gives us lessons about faith. The lesson in creation is that God created everything, and saw that it was good. Everything you see was made by God. I believe God did make everything, but through the Big Bang and evolution. The whole "7 Day Creation" sets a symbolic foundation for the rest of the bible stories to reference back to, so they can emphasize the topics of original sin and God choosing man for
CosmicKunai 7 hours ago
great song
Zephyr315 1 day ago
So many people don't realize that science and faith can go hand in hand and work together. So sad that we pick sides.
CosmicKunai 2 days ago
@CosmicKunai They go well together, up to the point where you remember that the Bible is supposed to be infallible and intelligent design and evolution clash
DavidRussell323 1 day ago
Fuck your arguments. Watch the video and fucking leave.
koobz21 1 week ago
@koobz21 i agree
nkycarbon 1 week ago in playlist Perhaps they're giants...
@koobz21 Indeed
HaldoChan 1 week ago
Science is real good as disproving itself every decade. That's where you go for truth?
matthewbhyde 1 week ago
@matthewbhyde
First of all, that's called getting better, not disproving. You build upon knowledge to understand more and better.
Second, what exactly is it that has been disprooved in the last decade? Gravity? we have that theory right since Newton, and it's only gotten vaster and better with Einstein.
Atomic Theory?1 century, Heliocentric theory? 400 years,Darwinian Evolution? 150 years, not to mention Euclidian Geometry (+2500 years)
not to mention Pasteur or Pitagora
AnarchyAlleyCat 1 week ago
@matthewbhyde It doesn't "disprove" it's self, it corrects it's self.
It's the reason why we have life, the universe, you... me... everything known.
TheGuitarHeroHero 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
@matthewbhyde You clearly do not understand what science is. And since your misconceptions could have been dispelled in a couple of minutes on Wikipedia, or even with Google, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you do not want to know learn, and have already decided to not make any effort towards understanding. I'm guessing you are some sort of creationist or something like that. Have fun with your magic sky-man, or leprechaun or whatever you have decided is the "real truth."
EisenKreutzer 1 week ago
@matthewbhyde if you don't agree with this song then don't listen to it and go listen to a song that has to do with what you do believe in
musicalanimegeek1901 1 week ago
@matthewbhyde I think that our knowledge of science constantly evolving due to new information and technology becoming available makes a lot more sense than listening to a book of desert fairy tales written 2000 years ago.
MinoTheShow 6 days ago
This is great. Science IS real from the Big Bang, evolution and the Milky Way. The only problem is, science needs the to/from and before/after of spacetime. Assuming there is no reality outside of spacetime is presumptuous.
paleo3712 2 weeks ago
I wish I could show this to my class, but I am afraid of the massive amount of attention it will get from the religious nuts in my community.
palindrome414 2 weeks ago
I truly think the world would be a physically and measurably better place if everyone just saw this video once...
TopGunMan 2 weeks ago
Hooray for religious arguments! They're stupid! :D
InWithQuinn 2 weeks ago
No more religious fights please! Just enjoy the song. Believe what you want. Now shut up and eat your salad.
GetrReady4ASurprise 1 month ago
I bought this album.
genola 1 month ago
@genola You would. :P
allthingsarelikethis 3 weeks ago
Yes, yes sorry 10 "super basic moralistic rules" were left by the extraterrestrial's, we added the last 2 later...as we got smarter, just as we rewrote the bible to suit the social fabric of the times it (the church) was trying to tame.
shajar32 1 month ago
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Amen to that "The big difference between religion and science is that science puts its assertions to the test. Scientists are willing to accept that they might be wrong, you see, and they want to be sure that they are right. So they test their assertions. And ask other people to test their assertions. And when the results come in, they don't try to avoid the implications.
Religion? not so much. And that's the difference."
shajar32 1 month ago
Your god was an extraterrestrial, when he and his disciples LOL visited from another universe they felt pity for our kind (so slowly evolving) & gave us an advanced lesson in SCIENCE + splicing their DNA (very similar) with ours, hence our leaps & bounds in scientific discovery for the last 5000yrs compared with the previous homo-sapiens of 200-400000 yrs ago. They may have also said we will return don't destroy yourselves in the meantime, please abide by these 12 super basic moralistic rules.
shajar32 1 month ago
lol my teacher shows this
TheThrasheralex 1 month ago
The atheists in these comments are all so condescending. "Oh no, someone out there believes that there might be a higher meaning of existence! I have to tell them how wrong and gullible and stupid they are on a Youtube video FOR CHILDREN."
Tortoiseshel 1 month ago
Science is real and science is magic, so magic is real! If you look at what the alchemists were trying to achieve look no further than modern science, we call it technology but it is magic, to say that magic is not real but science is real is to say that the world is made of language which runs counter to what people that believe in science say Vs. what science is....magic.
allthingsarelikethis 1 month ago
@allthingsarelikethis magic is just undocumented science
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allthingsarelikethis 3 weeks ago
@allthingsarelikethis No, science is not magic. Alchemy was more of a philosophy than anything else, really. Unlike modern science, it incoporated unscientific things like the Hermetic principles and spirituality.
HaldoChan 1 week ago
:( they had to disable ratings because of all the religious people...on a kid's video. come on, guys. we don't ruin everything you attempt.
loreleidotcom 1 month ago
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@ akivall "What does science have to say about angels, unicorns, or elves?"
Well they have never been scientifically observed there for it is safe to say that science says they are not real. Real being a thing that exists.
a8a4 2 months ago
Great job, Giants! It's curious that your video is considered controversial. Buncha loonies on the internets.
profbink1 2 months ago
@Mejd16 I lol'd
narnbrez 2 months ago
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Hear what God of Israel YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH (Son and Father are ONE) saying to our generation by His chosen prophets: Trumpetcallofgodonline. com ; Letter called "Purify Your Faith, and Come to the Father as It is Written": EXCERPT: "Only in the Bible and through these very Letters, of which I have given to My prophet of the end of this age, shall you find Him and know Him."
Watch:
" youtube.com/watch?v=YZPmTH6sloo"
"youtube.com/watch?v=lutJYDxP6ys"
"youtube.com/watch?v=R9ike7PKd8U"
Regards.
TrumpetCallofGodLT 2 months ago
@TrumpetCallofGodLT Lets not preach on street corners as the hypocrites would, now.
mejd16 2 months ago
@TrumpetCallofGodLT Oh sweet frosted brownies, go tell someone who cares...
Rhinogradentian 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
What does science have to say about angels, unicorns, or elves?
AkivaII 2 months ago
Yes science IS REAL! Science says what real is and then it is real! Fantastic, I wonder if it works across scale, the bible thumper says the bible is the word of god and that god IS REAL! If the bible says so and it is the word of god then god MUST BE REAL!
Wow it does work it is almost as if the rules for what can be accepted into reality are made up by the people who invent systems of belief, strange it is like there is no way to prove the systems wrong outside of the systems themselves.
allthingsarelikethis 2 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis I guess you've never used a computer, been to a hospital or been on an airplane.
Chibling 2 months ago
@Chibling Again I did not say anything about science having nothing of use or importance, it is just perspective to extrapolate the position that sciece understands lifes origins or has a sound philosophical position to assert that primates can understand the universe in the first place or an ability to explain how we know that measurements have any relationship to nature itself or if this is just a symbolic construct to simplify the universe and world to men.
allthingsarelikethis 2 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis If you hate science so much stop using everything that has anything to do with it.
Chibling 2 months ago
@Chibling I never said anything about hating science, so yeah calm down dude. :P
allthingsarelikethis 2 months ago
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raptorinator 3 weeks ago
@allthingsarelikethis You're a fucking idiot. Science IS real.
raptorinator 3 weeks ago
@raptorinator That is a gripping argument but again, do we not have to define real before you can say what is real? You might be able to just BELIEVE in science but how do you know that a measurement is more real than a thought?
Here is a clue, you are going to actually think about this question and answer it with a little detail and not just call me a name, otherwise you sound like a dork.
allthingsarelikethis 3 weeks ago
@allthingsarelikethis Calm down science is good so Super Jesus made it! SUUUUUUUUPER JEEEEEEEESUS AWAAAAAAAAAY!
BlazedBastar666 3 weeks ago
@BlazedBastar666 Dude I am calm, and Jesus is as silly as most of the defenders of science AS REAL in this video. it is just too simple to say science IS REAL this is not giving the subject enough consideration.
allthingsarelikethis 3 weeks ago
TAKE THAT CHRISTIANS FUCK YEAH
MrJuniorPowers 2 months ago
Actually, Christians don't believe both the Big Bang or Evolution, not enough facts to support them any ways. I can understand how a salt-water crocodile can adapt to become a fresh-water crocodile but that's different from turning from a rock into a crocodile...
nightflyer9kpoplove 2 months ago
@nightflyer9kpoplove "rock into a crocodile" No one has ever argued that such a thing has ever happened. "A salt-water crocodile can adapt to become a fresh-water crocodile" is evolution, congrats. Also, COSMIC BACKGROUND RADIATION indicates Big Bang, woohoo. lern 2 science kthxbai
jumpmonkey03 2 months ago
@nightflyer9kpoplove Catholics accept science and evolutionary theory...
Rhinogradentian 2 months ago
Hymn of the intellectuals.
paddymoep 2 months ago
@plaidchuck just because I believe in a higher being doesn't mean I'm ignorant! :)
TheWulfe17 2 months ago
@TheWulfe17 No, it just means you're irrational.
tml4873 2 months ago
Yeah what's the scientific method ever done for anyone except eradicate thousands of horrible diseases, put men on the moon, help feed half the planet, oh and even make that silly computer you use to spout your ignorance!
plaidchuck 2 months ago
@plaidchuck Yes science and the method of has helped to "cure" diseases and make it easier for all of us to live and now we have 7 billion people destroying the planet using hitich gadets created by science to help destroy it even faster.
Outside of videos that may have been staged the moon is hardly anything to be excited about I mean what good has this done us?
What about the other half of the planet that lives on less than $2 per day?
We are left with the PC....TBC......
allthingsarelikethis 2 months ago
@plaidchuck Yes there are things that are nice about technology and the things that science has produced such as the PC but we would not be living in such a paradigm that depends on virtual experiences if we were a society that valued actual experience.
It seems to me that experience is far more important than measurements, I could be wrong but I just don't understand how it is that we know that measurements are soo important?
allthingsarelikethis 2 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis In a right triangle a^2+b^2=c^2
Hydrogen has one electron, Helium has two. The fusion of Hydrogen into Helium causes the massive explosion that is stars.
The earth revolves around the sun.
These things are all true for everyone on earth. You will never find evidence to the contrary because it doesn't exist.
Darshkfletcher 3 months ago
@Darshkfletcher Thanks for the highlights of understood cosmology, what I was asking for is something that is "true" to everyone, which to me means that everyone on earth knows it and would give a very similar account.
It is a question of subjective Vs. objective as I am trying to figure out where this "objective" reality exists. It is epistomolgy in a way as I would like to know how we know that measurements are 'reality" how did we decide this?
allthingsarelikethis 3 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis Uh, we didn't. Reality is objective. It doesn't care about your subjective, personal decisions. However, in order to describe objectivity, we have to rely on a really shitty series of subjective communication methods, so people studying objective reality need to have a common method of description. We call that method of description "science" and "scientific jargon." If you don't like it, get out of the fucking pool.
jumpmonkey03 2 months ago
@jumpmonkey03 So then YOUR definition of what REALITY IS lines up with whatever "science" says? So it just depends on what the current understanding across all fields of science think currently and somehow YOU KNOW them to be the most real.....how? Is it not just your faith in science and not science itself that you speak of when you say that reality IS objective, again who is it objective to?
allthingsarelikethis 2 months ago
@Darshkfletcher I think you mean Proton? Not electron.
TheLackofattack 2 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis I think you mean aesthetics. ascetic = denier of pleasure aesthetics = sense of what is beautiful/true
i would say science is things that everyone can detect and agree on (what atoms cling to which, for instance), whereas religion is ONE BIG ARGUMENT. True should be true for everyone.
UCLEngineering 3 months ago
@UCLEngineering You are correct I used the wrong word, as for the "true for everyone" can you name something that is true for everyone?
allthingsarelikethis 3 months ago
Science - Using facts to disprove myths.
Religion - Attempting to use mythology to disprove facts.
Beandude202 3 months ago
@Beandude202 even though I am spiritual (not cripplingly so) I find your comment hilarious!!!!!!
Ralokone 3 months ago
@Beandude202 Science does not "disprove" myths. You cannot disprove these things, religion is just a man made control system but the myths behind it are actually not that crazy when given a modern perspective as in the Aliens in the Bible thought process. The strange and very common story of the "gods" of all ancient people may very well have a place even in the so called reality that science lays claim to.
allthingsarelikethis 3 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis
Perhaps my word choice was a bit ambiguous. Science cannot absolutely disprove the concept of a god or gods, that's true. But it can conclusively demonstrate that many of the beliefs that religious followers hold on to are simply ridiculous.
Beandude202 3 months ago
@Beandude202 True enough from the perspective of science. That being said it is not ridiculous to the faith driven christian and who is to say which is right when science says it only uses facts and the chistian says that the bible is fact. It seems that neither is "true" just ascetic and we are all governed by our ascetic.
allthingsarelikethis 3 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis #SidneyCrosbyIsAVampire
crazenate 3 months ago
@crazenate I don't know what this means?
allthingsarelikethis 3 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis It was a meme on twitter. Something started in response to someone making a claim with no evidence and then saying "Well I'm entitled to believe it because you can't prove me wrong". Unfortunately, the person making the claim ie. that there is a god/are gods has the burden of proof.
crazenate 3 months ago
@crazenate I never said anything about god or gods? Did I claim something that has no evidence?
allthingsarelikethis 3 months ago
This is wonderful. It gives me hope for the future of mankind.
RedZeshinX 3 months ago
"Science is the poetry of reality." -- Richard Dawkins (From the documentry "The Enemies of Reason")
nothingnesswithouten 3 months ago
@1:43, that's a VERY strong magnet.
TheNeverborn 3 months ago
So where are the SCIENTISTS who have been demanding accurate data on the distributions of steel and concrete down the twin towers for the last TEN YEARS?
psikeyhackr 3 months ago
Science, it works bitches.
shaedies 3 months ago
science is not real rofl lol joking
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standingontruth1 3 months ago in playlist Reason and Science
that angel strangely looks similar to a real angel
REAPER2871 3 months ago
@REAPER2871 How accurate are the unicorn and the elf?
Gravidtron 3 months ago
Science is real.
whatisdinnerfuck 4 months ago
Unicorns ARE real. (Almost as tasty as angels!)
Cristofre 4 months ago in playlist Here Comes Science - They Might Be Giants
@Cristofre I get it you're funny! But again how do YOU know that physical reality IS reality? Where is the gnome sitting at the flame of universal truth that says that current human understanding of the physical universe IS REALITY?
There is no independent varification, just human understanding and the ego to back it up using the systems that say that it is true in the first place, it is a belief in human understanding and only the current understanding at that .
allthingsarelikethis 4 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis I don't know.
The "current understanding" is just that, its what we know right now. Science is not set in stone like myths. Science is just a system of verification of observations- it is not anti-religion, anti-unicorn, or anti anything.
Science doesn't care if flying monkeys created the earth- if they did, then science will eventually explain it.
Science is not your enemy.
Cristofre 4 months ago
@Cristofre Given the history of current understandings being elaborated on does it not stand to reason that theories of today too will be elaborated on? This being said, I know science is not my enemy, I love science, I just don't hold it as a truth paradigm that the world must fit into to be real. I don't BELIEVE that humans can understand the nature of the universe simply through current understandings of physical reality.
Thanks for the response!
allthingsarelikethis 4 months ago
@Cristofre I don't think even the myths are set in stone, there are hundreds of translations of the bible some change the world dragon to jackel. I don't think there is much difference between belief in science Vs. belief in a specific religion. They are both manifestations of man trying to make sense of something that is just here to be experienced and contextualized meaning that both science and relgion are products of culture control grids.
allthingsarelikethis 3 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis The big difference between religion and science is that science puts its assertions to the test. Scientists are willing to accept that they might be wrong, you see, and they want to be sure that they are right. So they test their assertions. And ask other people to test their assertions. And when the results come in, they don't try to avoid the implications.
Religion? not so much. And that's the difference.
jjgdenisrobert 3 months ago
@jjgdenisrobert There are many differences between religion and science and there are many differences in one religion to the next. But all religions and science still have a common origin and are paradigms in which huge groups of people view the world and claim truth in these mere perspectives which are true only to the paradigm and the rules set up within the contruct of the system or atleast it seems clear to me. :P
allthingsarelikethis 3 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis I can appreciate your tone in this conversation HOWEVER... Science is true...because it IS TRUE. Not because it says so...not because of human ego or anything else. The idea that science should require independent varification is kinda silly. Until someone comes up with something better then science, then its the gold standard.
Tiptoetherat 4 months ago
@Tiptoetherat How does one define truth? Is it field oriented? I mean if you BELIEVE that humans can understand the universe using current understanding is this not just truth from a perspective of humans? And who is to say that humans CAN know the truth? Is this not just a bed time story that someone out there is working on all of the secrets of why we are here and where we are going? As for science as the gold factor I think this too is a perspective.
Thanks for the comment!!!!
allthingsarelikethis 3 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis What a load of BS! Do you trust just any "perspective" to tell you whether something is edible or poison? Is it just a matter of perspective, that if you jump from a high building, you're likely to die?
What you're talking about is just a bunch of idiotic postmodernist junk. It's funny that religions claim to have absolute truth, but believers will resort to the worst kind of relativism to defend their right to claim absolute truth...
jjgdenisrobert 3 months ago
@jjgdenisrobert No I trust only my perspective and I only trust in the moment as it is an evolving process. One can use science and any collective knowledge and still not believe that the paradigm of the source of said knowledge is universal truth or a paradigm that must be believed to be true.
What you say about relgion is somewhat true but it could be said about science as well as there is not such thing as absolute truth only human perspectives.
allthingsarelikethis 3 months ago
it doesn't matter if I do or not, nor do I consider it a prejudice. You'd have to ask they how they feel.
ButTheCatCameBack 4 months ago
This songs slightly subtle middle finger to religion IS pretty damned funny.
ButTheCatCameBack 4 months ago
@ButTheCatCameBack really? I didnt pick up on that, but there is a logial thing this video could teach alot of religious people. Science is REAL, your beliefs have to change for what is real, because you cannot change what is real.
and the gods honest truth, is that IF there is a god . . . how else other than science are we goign to discover god!!!! throught understanding of the universe, because if (and I stress that if) if god is real . . . then he is a part of it all . . . thus science!!!
Ralokone 4 months ago
@ButTheCatCameBack okay, now I have picked up on it I was listening too it on my ipod the first few times and that part for some reason went "swoosh" right over my head
but honestly. . . I find that pretty respective the way they handle it, they say yeah these things arent bad but dont loose your footing in reality . . . a good lesson
Ralokone 4 months ago
@ButTheCatCameBack Hey, if only you hold that prejudice.
VVillowz 4 months ago in playlist Here Comes Science - They Might Be Giants
How does one define real? If you BELIEVE that physical reality IS reality and you BELIEVE that science is "real" then you have to BELIEVE that science in its current understanding across all fields and theories has completed and put to rest all questions about reality. Given the history of theories and the way that theories throughout history have been revised and updated isn't this just a blanket belief rather then skeptical thought process?
allthingsarelikethis 4 months ago
@allthingsarelikethis Belief does not have a place in science. Belief is not knowing. You fail basic scientific conceptualization. The only people who make your style of arguments are non-scientists. Even try to ask that question at a real meeting of the minds and you'll be laughed out.
AntiChristAntiFail 4 months ago
@AntiChristAntiFail So again if you BELIEVE that science in its current understanding IS REALITY rather then just using information given by science to help sort out what is going on then you have a BELIEF in science rather than just a use for it.
As for a "real meeting of the minds" who decides what this verbage means? Let me guess science! I just don't BELIEVE that science is a meta theory that all other world views must bow to for approval and you seem to BELIEVE that they do.
allthingsarelikethis 4 months ago
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allthingsarelikethis 4 months ago
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@2010theawesomeness Yeah, its obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.
ireallyloveericlyons 4 months ago
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Are you seeking truth? Search "Truth Contest" in Google and click the 1st result, then click on "The Present." What it says will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people. You will see what I mean when you read the first page.
chuchkahickey 4 months ago
They Might Be Giants converting kids into atheists. Fuck yeah.
TedsGotSlacks 4 months ago
@TedsGotSlacks Lol if educating children means becoming an atheist, then hell yeah!
VVillowz 4 months ago
thumbs up if aqw brought you here
kingjacob300 4 months ago
Science is real okay? Just shut up about fights on this subject and enjoy some TMBG songs.
GetrReady4ASurprise 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for They Might Be Giants
this video has the most amazing comment fights ever! thumbs up if u agree
broadwaynerd99 4 months ago in playlist Here Comes Science - They Might Be Giants
Has anyone here ever read George Orwell's 1984?
Watcher863 4 months ago
Tadpole evolved into ... Frog!!!
Watcher863 4 months ago
Science is the science of studying science.
forallpurposesonly 4 months ago
@forallpurposesonly ...Science is the study of the natural world.
OnlyALetter 4 months ago
@forallpurposesonly SCIENCEPTION
r0b0tj0n3s 4 months ago
@2010theawesomeness I don't think you really understand how evolution works. Don't be offended, a lot of people don't. Humans share a common ancestor with apes. The evidence is in the fossil record and our DNA.
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SuperBspb 4 months ago
You are also correct that, in several cases, DNA was rejected by scientists. It was also proposed by scientists. For an example of observations that weren't science, we can look at superstitions and myth, such as "Thor causes lightning." People observed lightning, but they didn't -test- lightning. They skipped the most important step, and instead just fathomed that Thor caused lightning, rather than putting it to the test.
MLoggains 4 months ago
Science isn't merely observation, its empiricism combined with theory. What goes up must come down is rudimentary, but still scientific. And observation (things going up and coming down) was tested (tossing things in the air) and proven. More complex science determined that these things fall at the same speed, neglecting air resistance. That this speed is determined by the size of the thing exerting gravity, etc.
MLoggains 4 months ago
hehe da best
CRaeside10 4 months ago
Why do people believe any form of knowledge is Science? Science Claims anything from the evolving Tadpole, To gravity is Science. For thousands of Years we've realized Tadpoles became Frogs; we didn't need the conformation of Science. We've always believed; "What Goes Up, Must Come Down", We didn't need an Apple to fall onto someones Head and science to say, "Yes! Believe in Gravity! It's Science!". DNA was Rejected Multiple Times by Scientists; and once proven corrected, "It's all science"
Courteousness 4 months ago
@Courteousness Science is defined as systematized knowledge in general. Gravity isn't "what goes up must come down." Gravity is G[(m1m2)/r²]. This explains why there is anything south of the equator. Science gives us the law of universal gravitation. Tadpoles do not evolve into frogs, they metamorphose. With science, we know how they do it. DNA was rejected until proven correct because that's how science works. We don't teach geocentricism, do we? Why not? Because it hasn't been proven.
AkatsukiPR0 4 months ago
@AkatsukiPR0 Science can be defined as One Single Word. Truth. By saying that, any attempt of discovering truth shouldn't be classified as Science, statements like; "Without Science we wouldn't be living in this Modern Day and Age, state that science within itself caused where we are, I'm sure 400 Years ago, when we were building Homes and Castles; they weren't worrying about science. Science is People, searching truth, science Is just a Word in my presumption
mike444170 4 months ago
@mike444170 Science is the search of knowledge.
Watcher863 4 months ago
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"Mindless entertainment in our free time should be replaced by intellectually valuable things that are equally entertaining. Brain Building by Marilyn vos Savant and other books like it do a good job of laying out all the ways education and intelligence can help us and more importantly how to foster intellectual growth. There are so many wonders that knowledge and the intellect can bring us." - Carl Sagan
TheLogicalBrain 5 months ago
@TheLogicalBrain Huh?
Watcher863 4 months ago
yes because that's not true
ireallyloveericlyons 5 months ago
Some commenters here mock science because it revises its knowledge base when new information is learned. You think that is a BAD thing? Really?
The alternative, via religion, is to cling to bronze-age superstitions that contradict the real world as it is now commonly known and understood. Science is the best tool that humans have to understand the world that actually exists.
GodVlogger 5 months ago
@GodVlogger Yes, thank you.
HaldoChan 5 months ago
The Sun is made of Gas. We know this because science is real. No, wait! It's made out of Plasma! We know this because science is "real". The universe is 65% dark energy. We don't know what dark energy really is, but it must exist, because if it isn't there it means we have to rethink all kinds of things, and we just can't accept that we don't have a clue. Another13% of the universe is dark matter. We don't know what that is either, but it must be real because science is real! And
IndianaJesusfreak 5 months ago
Science is real; like the Big Babg theory. Except that it had to be totally reworked in 1998 because they found out thast the theory was absolutely wrong. So they invented some abstract notions; like Dark Matter and Dark Energy. Never mind that they had no definitions for the terms. They had the terms and that was enough to "fix" the theory.
IndianaJesusfreak 5 months ago
wow, I do hope most of the stupid anti-science comments are just sarcastic... or are we really going to do the Inquisition again? Ok, the earth is flat and the stars are just paint dots in the sky and God planted the dinosaur bones to fool scientists...sure. Incredible fools.
TheJannid 5 months ago
@TheJannid Who ever Said Stars were Plain Dots?
Courteousness 4 months ago
And here i thought science was a myth
DeathBringer737 5 months ago
evoloution is the answer to how not the answer to why which means u can believe in god and science at the same time
jaktom2 5 months ago
Could we all just stop and enjoy this song, gents?
Veninax 5 months ago
Not in Kansas.....
zlatev101 5 months ago
@zlatev101 LOL
YossariansBane 5 months ago
omg, i had no idea that your hair grows when you put a frog in it! XD
504379 6 months ago
First off, great CD! Second, if you think science is unbiased guess what, you just stated your biased opinion. Of course science is biased. Everyone is biased. How exactly could biased mortals devise a way to objectively view the world? Or know it if they did? Just like everything else science has it's own set of underlying assumption (hypothetical constructs for example). Even science admits it is biased. Look up some studies on 'confirmation bias' in science. Science is great but not perfect.
TheMessie27 6 months ago in playlist Here Comes Science
@TheMessie27 Minor correction: Science isn't biased, scientists (being people, just like everyone else) are biased. Science doesn't have a bias, being an idea and all. :)
GEhotpants101 5 months ago
@TheMessie27 People are biased, but science isn't. Science is facts, or what we think are facts, facts aren't biased. Here's an example. "PIE IS THE BEST THING EVER." Is a biased opinion, as you obviously at the very least like pie. "Pie is made of atoms," Fact, because no matter your bias, you can agree on that. Plus nobody ever said science is perfect, recently we discovered a partical that goes faster than light, disproving Eistien. What makes science great is that it is flexible.
partyxday 5 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for They Might Be Giants
@partyxday No we did not do any such thing. Some scientists got some strange results showing neutrinos moving faster than light. But there's a 99.99% chance they either made a slight mistake in the math (at the precision they are dealing with you have to take into account that relativity says that time will be "slower" as you go deeper into the Earth since the gravity becomes lower - more mass is above you) or in their measurements.
Still they just just might have, which would be awesome.
sjholden 5 months ago
Kind of a snarky song :/
stoney490 6 months ago
@stoney490 Not really. Those that are really snarky are the ones that force us to make songs reminding people that science is real. Like creationists...
anhero23 6 months ago
@anhero23 Ohhhh! Burn, son!!
stoney490 6 months ago
whats another song with the same rythm from 0:28-0:40
mylot011 6 months ago
Dude... you guys... Stop arguing and enjoy the nice music.
Molagbal38 6 months ago
@Molagbal38 okay. I'll observe it ;-)
filmjunkie998 6 months ago
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PushTheFat 6 months ago
I think all of you that are debating this need to read "Science as Storytelling" by B.R. Bickmore. It may open all of your eyes a little more. Just a suggestion from a christian geology major.
totalliokie21 6 months ago
@totalliokie21 thank you, I do appreciate it!
filmjunkie998 6 months ago
@filmjunkie998 Were you mocking me?
totalliokie21 6 months ago
@totalliokie21 no, I tend not to write sarcastically on the internet, unless it is so exagerrated that it is obvious. Sorry if it came off that way, I am actually sincerely interested, thank you! :D
filmjunkie998 6 months ago
You know, and I am not trying to debate btw, as a Christian, I respect other beliefs, and I am here reading some ugly comments, and some provokative questions wondering, do others respect my beliefs? do I have so scientifically quantify such notions as freedom, faith, and love in order to gain respect? Because that is not possible. You cant quantify and *idea* using *reality*, it doesn't work that way, so I only ask that we may get along instead of being posteriors to others.....
filmjunkie998 6 months ago
@filmjunkie998 .......My belief is valid, not because I have evidence, but because there is no way to empirically gather evidence, there is NO evidence, so I only say, please don't judge a book by it's cover. People are People, beliefs aren't people, political parties aren't people, and that's all I'm saying. Thanks for reading, and have a nice day.
filmjunkie998 6 months ago
@filmjunkie998 it's impossible for a christian to respect other people's beliefs 'thou shalt have no other god before me'
I guess you're not really a real christian then, just a hypocrite.
SanguineBullet667 6 months ago
@SanguineBullet667 no sir I am not. Because respecting someone else who holds different beliefs does not mean I am worshiping their beliefs. That makes no sense, and is a logical fallacy. I simply respect others, you however clearly don't. I rest my case, other decent people will see your sorry attitude, and decide to be a little more respectful to everyone, not just 'their belief'.
filmjunkie998 6 months ago
@filmjunkie998 you are going in direct contradiction to the command to spread the gospel and the one and only God. All other Gods are false and diminutive to the human spirit according to both the old and new testament. The very nature of your religion doesn't even allow tolerance !
SanguineBullet667 6 months ago
@SanguineBullet667 you obviously are a troll, or you clearly don't understand what I am talking about. I'm guessing both. I suppose turning the other cheek isn't "tolerant" or am I just being arbitrary again? Just because I may believe other Gods are false doesn't necessarily constitute that all other people who are different should be hated. where does it say to hate people? it doesn't, it says to forgive people and to treat others with respect....which is what I am doing. Goodbye troll.
filmjunkie998 6 months ago
@SanguineBullet667 btw, just posting on this page is 'spreading' idealogies, which means if you think it is bad...maybe you shouldn't comment as an atheist...unless you are no better than christians of course.
filmjunkie998 6 months ago
@filmjunkie998 thankyou
simmygt 6 months ago
@simmygt no problem ;-) this is my best way of explaining it, enjoy!
youtube . com/watch?v=Rann9SLUZyw
(regardless your beliefs, there are people like this also ;) )
filmjunkie998 6 months ago
u guyz r sooooooooooo stupidd, god iz real, deal with it. science is wrong.
Chunnyie 6 months ago
@Chunnyie Then why how are you on a computer, after all science is wrong, isn't it? And science made technology, so any good person wouldn't use such a demonic device, yes?
SulphurTea 6 months ago