My dear Yoddling is not singing does K L sehgal did yoddleing . Those who do not know singing aur gaano ki adayagi do yoddling because he could not do such " Harkatein ".like rafi sahab . Isko harkat kehte hai music directors ko malum hai . Lekin aapki baat sahi hai yoddling sirf kishore karta tha Aur Rafi gaane ko perform karta tha usmein kahan par kaisi harkatein karni hai woh sirf Rafi hi jaanta tha isliye mujhe aap se jaane ki zaroorat nahin hai gaayaki ke baare mein.
Magar teh log jinhe aap mohtaj bata rahe ho kishore kumar ke hote hue bhi top par pahunche aur rahe. Dono shabbir kumar aur Mohd aziz ne kishore kumar ke life mein hio bollywod mein gana shuru kiya aur top ppar pahunche.aur baad mein sonu bhi top par aaya in logon ki qualification thi sirf Mohd rafi sahab. Mohd rafi woh singer tha jsike gaane sun sun kar yeh log play back singer ban gaye. Yeh hai mohd rafi
It is unfair and foolishness to compare to one another. Md.Rafi,Mukesh and Kishore had unique quality of their own.All the three were complimenting each other and all of them were fans of K.L.Saigal.We should enjoy their songs that's all.
Doston Rafi woh singer hai jisne Hindustan ki 3 generations ke liye gaane gaaye hai. Prthviraj kapoor (Woh Bharat desj hai mera, Raj Kapoor ( jogi aaye) mera naam joker , Ramiya vasta vaiya and Riashi kapoor Darde dil darde jigar( karz). Abhi agar rafi saheb zinda gote to eishi kapoor ke beet Ranbir ke liye bhi gaate. He is ultimate in singing . he inspired next genration so much that all singers who came after rafi had rafi effect on them shabbir kumar ,Mohd. Aziz & sonu Nigam idolised rafi
Doston Rafi woh singer hai jisne Hindustan ki 3 generations ke liye gaane gaaye hai. Prthviraj kapoor (Woh Bharat desj hai mera, Raj Kapoor ( jogi aaye) mera naam joker , Ramiya vasta vaiya and Riashi kapoor Darde dil darde jigar( karz). Abhi agar rafi saheb zinda gote to eishi kapoor ke beet Ranbir ke liye bhi gaate. He is ultimate in singing . he inspired next genration so much that all singers who came after rafi had rafi effect on them shabbir kumar ,Mohd. Aziz & sonu Nigam idolised rafi.
@suniloldbolywud shabbir kumar aaj do roti ka mohtaj hai. m. aziz ne apna aakhri gaana 15-16 saal pahle gaaya hoga, aur sonu nigam bas rafi ke gaane hi gaa sakta hai. ha ha ha.
@avjoshi07 If anything u should be proud as a Kishore fan that he is even being compared to Rafi. You know in the bottom of your heart who is better. Both singers were roughly of the same era. How come then we don't recall Kishore's songs for so many leading actors of 50s and 60s, that's 20 long years...except for a few songs for Dev Anand and Shashi. It's the other way round for Rafi: it would be quite a challenge for anyone to find actors that Rafi did NOT sing for...any comparison here?
@TheQualitymatters Have you gone mad!!!?? Who said we don't recall Kishore?? You ask anyone even from the new generation that whom he misses most, whose songs he hears the most? Rafi hardly sang any song for SUPERSTARS Rajesh Khanna & Amitabh Bachchan. Both of them prefered KK to Rafi. Now say they were also mad!!. KK got less chance to sing for Dev, Rajendra etc. b'coz he was newer, while Rafi was eshtablished. But during AB and Rajesh both were eshtablished, even then KK sang for them not Rafi
@TheQualitymatters ab meri sun, galatfahmi mein jeene waale- kishore won 8 filmfare rafi just 6. ha ha ha.kishore sang for rajesh khanna in 91 movies which is a worldwide record. kishore was not trained but had the guts to sing "mere naina saawan bhaadon", kya rafi yoodeling kar salte the. zindagi ek safar, tum bin jaaon kahaan, rote huye aate hain sab are one of the songs that both sang but rafi's version always got failed. kya rafi ne kabhi ladka ladki dono ki aawaz mein gaana gaya hai, ha ha
KK went for yodelling bcos he did not have the range (high notes) that Rafi had. And KK did a ggod job of it. Rafi did not need it (he has done it once or twice). Yodelling is falseto.
Rafi was a class apart. The best singer to be born on earth.
@arnab175 Even nobody cares about you.. You are speaking as if you are the ultimate master of Music, and all these singers were your disciples. I was just expressing my views like all others. If you wanna be a great so called social activist then tell everyone who have posted comments on all videos relating this topic, my best wishes are wih you.
@arnab175 Even nobody cares about you.. You are speaking as if you are the ultimate master of Music, and all these singers were your disciples. I was just expressing my views like all others. If you wanna be a great so called social activist then tell everyone who have posted comments on all videos relating this topic, my best wishes are wih you.
@avjoshi07 Hi Avjoshi07, there is no doubt Kishore was an excellent singer and has given us many many melodies to enjoy the whole life. Kishore always accepted Mohd.Rafi as his good friend and he knew his limitations too. Rafi was a trained singer and could reach any sur without difficulty. Comparing Rose and Jasmine is wrong. Both are good flowers.. But do not compare Rafi with anybody.. He stands taller than anybody.... He was a good human being..
@KrishnaRafian If you think KK had limitations,you are definitely narrow minded from Music point of view. In Music,KK has sung highest no. of songs in which high pitch is involved. "Chhukar mere man ko", "Badi suni suni hai", "Mere naina sawan Bhaadon", Rim jhim gire saawan" are among the toughest. Rafi could not sing that songs. And ya,yoddling was his unique feature, which NO ONE(not even so-called "GOD" Rafi) can even touch.. Moreover RAFI was TRAINED, HE LEARNT MUSIC, Kishore DID NOT LEARN
@avjoshi07 I am definitely not narrow minded. I equally like Kishore as I love Rafisaab. Nobody on earth shall accept that Rafi could not sing the songs mentioned by you. Kishore could have never sung songs like Parda Hain Parda with the same Josh of Rafi saab. At the same time, Kishore has sung the songs mentioned by you very well. Kishore had unique yodelling features but it was first by Rafi. Theree are several songs which you might not be aware..
Rafi did have a sweet voice, honestly better than KK, but KK's voice had a taste of Confidence, Masti, fullness towards Devotion, Pitch & Absoluteness. Even though if voices were to be more comcerned with, Rafi was better. But we have to see the quality of singing not the quality of voice. We see devotion towards the "assummed situation related with the movie" while singing... Let us rely on opinion of concerned & knowledgeable persons and not decide ourselves. Till I know each one prefers KK..
Please all my brothers, let us all rise above this "Relegionalism." I (and everyone) do accept dat Rafi was better than Manna dey, Jagjit singh, and everyone. Please accept dat KK was each time better than Rafi. Greatest musician S D Burman even prefered KK rather than Rafi. It was KK's sung that was accepted nice by all the classes of society, whether old ar youth. It were KK songs that fetched more income. Statistics tell so, I donot tell out of my whims. You have full freedom to verify these.
Talk of yoddling, Rafi didnt ever knew wat it was. Composers always approached KK for it. Why not Rafi, I thought God knows everything!! I'm very sorry for hurting anyone, but my closest friend, I dont want to disclose his name, trust me is a Muslim. He prefers KK to Rafi. Once he himself told me "Because Rafi was a Muslim, each Muslim supports him. No one can bare dat a hindu can be greater than a single muslim. I(my frnd) has never even heard any muslim saying dat AB is better than DilipKumar"
Have u ever heard dem singins 2gether? Hear the song- Bandh Muthi lakh ki-Film Chalti ka naam Zindagi." Notice dat wen Rafi sings, he pronounces-"Mmmehnat se na, Kkhhichdi pakana" putting xtra pressure on "M" & "Kh". If he was d God, why such nonsense singing? KK never commited such stupidities. Hear d song-"Mere naina saawan Bhadon-Film Mehbooba" RD Burman first approached Rafi but he couldnt. Of course KK also refused first, I'm being honest, but after insistion, he agreed.
All you great stupid fools who consider Rafi as greater than KK, have all your senses gone DEAD!!? Do you really compare both without any prejudice towards KK? If Rafi was greater than Kishore, if people liked Rafi more than KK, then why were the music composer themselves not ready to pay Rafi more than KK? KK used to take his FULL fees in advance, which Rafi couldnt even demand for. Why did AB prefered KK to Rafi. Once Lata was asked that whom do miss the most? She instantly replied Kishoreda!
There is no harm in comparing the best talents as long as the discussion is based on merits. Rafi sahab was an all rounder with immense and amazing range whereas Kishore da had his limitations, but whatever he sang was of the highest level. This song was probably out of Kishore da's comfort level, especially the high notes. There are a lot of singers now a days who can sing in high pitch, but their expression quotient leaves a lot to be desired.
The best part is that if you do not look at the title, you may not realize that it is Rafi and not KK whose voice has been used. Rafi had the unique capability of sounding like the actors for whom he gave playback.
Oh god! Will you guys STOP already? Isn't it clear enough that BOTH were equally beautiful, and if there was supposed to be a rivalry between the two they wouldn't have been friends!
Kishore kumar learned that music in the latter stage but Rafi Saheb was singing since childhood..Thats whay kishore JI is given the songe of Rafi Sahed.
Rafi Saheb was the master of all RAGS & classical that rare people know that time except LATA JI.
if kishoreda had sang this would b a hit. manna da also sang for kishorda more times than rafi. it is praise for kishorda who raised himself so high.ruled 69to 87.it is prooved he is d hightest paid male singer( 1Rs less than lata ji).he is d voice of superstars. agar kishorda jinda hote to sharrukh ki aawaj hote.rajkapur saheb ne kaha tha-bhagwaan ne wo sancha hi thod diya jisse kishorda ko banaya.javed akhter saheb-kishoreda jaisi awaj na thi na hai na hogi.
Kishore Sang some greate songs.he enjoy whatever he sang.u will enjoy each song of kishore.but the songs sung by rafi will reach into ur sole and give peace to ur sole.so kishore is greate singer but rafi is god himself.rafi yani khuda ki aawaz.thanks
@TheGoldenRafi , rafi sang a song under kishoreda direction. aaj sabse jyada roylty kishorda ke songs se aati hai. sabse jyada remix kishorda ke songs hote hain.
From 1:25 to 1:40 is the high pitch variation along with many others in this song that could only be rendered by Rafi Sahib. The music director did not want to modify this beautiful tune only to suit Kishore. Hence he used Rafi for this song.
Rafi sahib passed away 30 years ago (31 July 1980), but his legend lives on as his voice still continues to entertain and amaze millions around the world. No one replaced humble, modest and pious Rafi sahib. He changed Indian film playback and music industry forever. He is a book on how to sing. His playback voice changed the fate of most Indian film actors, and made them superstars of their time. I am honoured to have met him, be his family's neighbour in London-UK. RIP Mohammed Rafi.
This songs has parts that could only rendered with knowledge of classical music and had range (highs) not easy for KK. The music directors, hence, went for Rafi.
Oh Rafi.. Iam choked with emotions. No words. SJ 's music as usual superb. Lyrics by Shailendra oh God that is outta this world. MK is pretty Kishore is quite expressive.
Lol...it's history now One singer giving his voice to another singer i don't think there is anyone who has done this before and even till now. Rafi gave his voice to all the comedians of Bollywood. Whereas KK fun songs were filmed on KK himself. why not make a playlist of this Rafi sings for KK it will be more easy to find all the songs at one go.
I think they both did a song with same lyrics- it is in Pyar Ka mausam- Sonbg is Tum bin jao kahan-
Rafi's song sings for itself.
Kishore was second best in every category. Only reason Kishore or Mukesh sang fro so long was due to Lata and Rafi disagreements. She kept on giving air to these too.
Rafi was matching voice from mid 1950's. ANyone who says otherwise doesn't know movies.
Early 60's he had a voice fro Rajendra Kumar, Dharamendra, Dev Anand and later on he had one dfor Rajesh Khanna too. Of course in 50's he had a vocie reserved fro Dilip Kumar, and others.
Absolutely. Rafi was gifted by GOD. He could match anyone's voice to sound exactly so. And when even he rendered songs for funster Johny, it was a perfect match.
Someone just mentioned Rafi could match any actor's voice? I beg to differ. I know he is a good singer but it was only in the late 60s that he started trying to match singers voices, which Kishoreda was a master in. I frankly believe that no matter how good a singer you are, the true essence of playback singing is 'matching the actor's voice and mannerisms', thats where I think Kishoreda sets the mark
plz do not spout such crap!! if kk 's voice suited all actors , then why is Rafisahab's voice used on kk himself, r u saying tht kk's voice didnt suit his own face??? lolzzzzzzz
Rafi sahab was voted singer of the millenium and is by far the best singer of the subcontinent and among the best in the world!
its sad tht ppl like u cannot accept the fact tht Rafi sahab till this day is the best just because he wasnt a hindu!!!
kishoreda even matched the voice of Pran, that too amazingly.. here is a point Rafi sounded relatively similar for almost every actor, people say that Kishoreda was more versatile than Rafi..well ppl can have long discussions on that,
very effective tune an also rafi.this was the era when rafi was on top and kishore was rendering voice to selected songs with some selected music directors. rafi is so versetile that he use to match his voice with different actors effectively.
Kishore Kumar will allways be a great artist all round, but Mohammed Rafi helped him to his success, because it's true he Kishore Kumar was unable to sing to high pitch and only the great Mohammed Rafi Sahib. Still they were great men who have given us all great joy and happiness. Khushy.
In this ilm Kishore Kumar had double role,One is meenakumarislover and kishore sang or that charecter, second is her devar husbands brother who looks sameas her lover, or this charecter Rafi gave play back. film name Shararat.
Almost all Music directors used Rafi,KK,Mukhesh,Thalath in the same film for the same hero, In the mind of Music director to whoom the tune best suited is the criteria. S & J used Rafi & Mukhesh in somany films In Kinare Kinare(JayDev) you can see Rafi Thalath,Mukhesh & Mannadey were used. PLEASE DONT WASTE U-TUBE FOR " WHO IS GREAT " ARGUMENTS . All are great , they can not survive somany years otherwiae . Compare to today's singers how fast they fading out . Arani Apparao-HYD
Everytime I see posts comparing Rafi and Kishore, raising one and dissing another, I feel bad. Both are gifts to us, and let us cherish them, instead of pouring out our biases. Both gave a distinct flavor to our music and gave us decades worth of classic music. They themselves got along really well and respected each other. As for the reason Rafi sang this song was that Kishore got into dispute with the producer HS Rawail and refused to record it after the movie was made. As simple as that.
they both r the legends...both defined music in their own ways..and both have amazing fan following..its a pity to see people fighting,while these legends always respected each other!!!
people r free to have their opinion but shud not press upon!!
suting of voice of THE GREATEST EVER PLAYBACK SINGER MOHAMMAD RAFI is entirely another topic The thing is that the song which was composed by another legends SHANKAER JAIKISHAN according to their opinion this song was not suiting KISHORE DA the another GIANT style so they preffersd rafi saab rather than kishoreda WHO IS NO 1 AND WHO IS NOT EVERY BODY KNOWS TAHT IT IS COMMON PLACE so no need to discuss taht topic which is already been decided 03332604292
Great score by SJ sung well by Rafi. KK and Meena are quite ok.Meena I love her.
Can anything equal the pleasure of listening to such songs .. All said SJ steals the show . SJ the composer duo , who rocked through their entire careers.. THANKS hnj50 a million
" Hum mathwaale Naujawan " and " Theraa theer o bepeer " are from Sharaarath only. Kishore's " Surma mera niraalaa Hai koyi najar waalaa " is from Kabhi Andhera kabhi ujaala of OPNayyar - Arani Apparao(HYD)
Rafi's voice doesn't suit Kishore Kumar at all. Kishore Kumar was the greatest singer that Hindi Cinema has ever produced. He was a genius. There wasn't/isn't and will not be another Kishore Kumar.
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I never considered Kishore Kumar as a singer and he never impressed me in any of his songs. In fact, when I used to visit movies, I only saw a film if it did not have a Kishore song or if there was one which I visited, then I would walk out of the theatre.
ur right brother.....today all respect goes to lata.....but then the crystal clear voice of Rafi and on top of that correct pronounciation....Rafi is indeed ahead of Lata.....
Brother you are getting me wrong.....I am not saying that Lata was not a good singer...definately she was...there is no doubt...but what I said you could not get.....I was saying that rafi sahabs pronounciation was right....this statement does not mean that lata is not good....I would be a ididot to say so....
I was looking for this song and am surprised it was picturised on Kishore Kumar, after all, he was not able to sing and that was why it was given to Rafi to sing for him. Ha ha ha,
the only presons who could do this song were shankar jaikishen and mohammed rafi i think kishore kumar was only doing yodelling in those days . uski bas ki baat nahi thi.
One of the finest song sung by late Mohammed Raffi Jee " Excellent Music, lyrics and most nice he sang for another legend " Kishore Kumar " Salute to You Tube for such displaying such nice songs.
I read somewhere that Kishore Kumar fell out with the producer of the movie and refused to record this song. That is how Rafi saab got to record it. Nevertheless we got a gem out of this, if it were true.
maza aa gaya-purane gane bhi kiya gane the,kiya bol kiya sangeet kiya awaz, sone pe suhaga.
ek rafi ka hi geet hai agar woh aap ke pass hai to bhejna please.gane ke bol hain ujar gaya panchhi ab tera basera, toot gai woh dali jis pe tune dala dera. film ghar ki laaj.
The song is unique in the sense that Rafi sang the song for Kishore Kumar who is a playback singer himself. The soft and beautiful voice of Rafi with high pitch at the end of each stanza is superb. The entire orchestration of this piano based song is simply the best. There is a perfect dialogue between piano and English flute/solo violin between the Mukhda and stanza shows the musical genius of Shankar Jaikishan. In my opinion it is one of the best songs of Rafi ever to be recorded.
Shankar-Jaikishen composed a song for this movie. It is a duet sung by Geeta Dutt and Kishore Kumar which goes like this "Dekh Aasmamem Chand Musakaya .." It is lovely duet...
My dear Yoddling is not singing does K L sehgal did yoddleing . Those who do not know singing aur gaano ki adayagi do yoddling because he could not do such " Harkatein ".like rafi sahab . Isko harkat kehte hai music directors ko malum hai . Lekin aapki baat sahi hai yoddling sirf kishore karta tha Aur Rafi gaane ko perform karta tha usmein kahan par kaisi harkatein karni hai woh sirf Rafi hi jaanta tha isliye mujhe aap se jaane ki zaroorat nahin hai gaayaki ke baare mein.
suniloldbolywud 1 week ago
Magar teh log jinhe aap mohtaj bata rahe ho kishore kumar ke hote hue bhi top par pahunche aur rahe. Dono shabbir kumar aur Mohd aziz ne kishore kumar ke life mein hio bollywod mein gana shuru kiya aur top ppar pahunche.aur baad mein sonu bhi top par aaya in logon ki qualification thi sirf Mohd rafi sahab. Mohd rafi woh singer tha jsike gaane sun sun kar yeh log play back singer ban gaye. Yeh hai mohd rafi
suniloldbolywud 1 week ago
It is unfair and foolishness to compare to one another. Md.Rafi,Mukesh and Kishore had unique quality of their own.All the three were complimenting each other and all of them were fans of K.L.Saigal.We should enjoy their songs that's all.
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Doston Rafi woh singer hai jisne Hindustan ki 3 generations ke liye gaane gaaye hai. Prthviraj kapoor (Woh Bharat desj hai mera, Raj Kapoor ( jogi aaye) mera naam joker , Ramiya vasta vaiya and Riashi kapoor Darde dil darde jigar( karz). Abhi agar rafi saheb zinda gote to eishi kapoor ke beet Ranbir ke liye bhi gaate. He is ultimate in singing . he inspired next genration so much that all singers who came after rafi had rafi effect on them shabbir kumar ,Mohd. Aziz & sonu Nigam idolised rafi
suniloldbolywud 2 months ago
Doston Rafi woh singer hai jisne Hindustan ki 3 generations ke liye gaane gaaye hai. Prthviraj kapoor (Woh Bharat desj hai mera, Raj Kapoor ( jogi aaye) mera naam joker , Ramiya vasta vaiya and Riashi kapoor Darde dil darde jigar( karz). Abhi agar rafi saheb zinda gote to eishi kapoor ke beet Ranbir ke liye bhi gaate. He is ultimate in singing . he inspired next genration so much that all singers who came after rafi had rafi effect on them shabbir kumar ,Mohd. Aziz & sonu Nigam idolised rafi.
suniloldbolywud 2 months ago
@suniloldbolywud shabbir kumar aaj do roti ka mohtaj hai. m. aziz ne apna aakhri gaana 15-16 saal pahle gaaya hoga, aur sonu nigam bas rafi ke gaane hi gaa sakta hai. ha ha ha.
MrAashishkaushik 1 week ago
@avjoshi07 If anything u should be proud as a Kishore fan that he is even being compared to Rafi. You know in the bottom of your heart who is better. Both singers were roughly of the same era. How come then we don't recall Kishore's songs for so many leading actors of 50s and 60s, that's 20 long years...except for a few songs for Dev Anand and Shashi. It's the other way round for Rafi: it would be quite a challenge for anyone to find actors that Rafi did NOT sing for...any comparison here?
TheQualitymatters 3 months ago
@TheQualitymatters Have you gone mad!!!?? Who said we don't recall Kishore?? You ask anyone even from the new generation that whom he misses most, whose songs he hears the most? Rafi hardly sang any song for SUPERSTARS Rajesh Khanna & Amitabh Bachchan. Both of them prefered KK to Rafi. Now say they were also mad!!. KK got less chance to sing for Dev, Rajendra etc. b'coz he was newer, while Rafi was eshtablished. But during AB and Rajesh both were eshtablished, even then KK sang for them not Rafi
avjoshi07 2 months ago
@TheQualitymatters ab meri sun, galatfahmi mein jeene waale- kishore won 8 filmfare rafi just 6. ha ha ha.kishore sang for rajesh khanna in 91 movies which is a worldwide record. kishore was not trained but had the guts to sing "mere naina saawan bhaadon", kya rafi yoodeling kar salte the. zindagi ek safar, tum bin jaaon kahaan, rote huye aate hain sab are one of the songs that both sang but rafi's version always got failed. kya rafi ne kabhi ladka ladki dono ki aawaz mein gaana gaya hai, ha ha
MrAashishkaushik 1 week ago
SHANKAR-JAIKISHAN, simply awesome and the best..never always experimenting and setting new trends....
kaoncond 3 months ago
KK went for yodelling bcos he did not have the range (high notes) that Rafi had. And KK did a ggod job of it. Rafi did not need it (he has done it once or twice). Yodelling is falseto.
Rafi was a class apart. The best singer to be born on earth.
dptxp 5 months ago
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@arnab175 Even nobody cares about you.. You are speaking as if you are the ultimate master of Music, and all these singers were your disciples. I was just expressing my views like all others. If you wanna be a great so called social activist then tell everyone who have posted comments on all videos relating this topic, my best wishes are wih you.
avjoshi07 5 months ago
@arnab175 Even nobody cares about you.. You are speaking as if you are the ultimate master of Music, and all these singers were your disciples. I was just expressing my views like all others. If you wanna be a great so called social activist then tell everyone who have posted comments on all videos relating this topic, my best wishes are wih you.
avjoshi07 5 months ago
@avjoshi07 Hi Avjoshi07, there is no doubt Kishore was an excellent singer and has given us many many melodies to enjoy the whole life. Kishore always accepted Mohd.Rafi as his good friend and he knew his limitations too. Rafi was a trained singer and could reach any sur without difficulty. Comparing Rose and Jasmine is wrong. Both are good flowers.. But do not compare Rafi with anybody.. He stands taller than anybody.... He was a good human being..
KrishnaRafian 2 months ago
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avjoshi07 2 months ago
@KrishnaRafian If you think KK had limitations,you are definitely narrow minded from Music point of view. In Music,KK has sung highest no. of songs in which high pitch is involved. "Chhukar mere man ko", "Badi suni suni hai", "Mere naina sawan Bhaadon", Rim jhim gire saawan" are among the toughest. Rafi could not sing that songs. And ya,yoddling was his unique feature, which NO ONE(not even so-called "GOD" Rafi) can even touch.. Moreover RAFI was TRAINED, HE LEARNT MUSIC, Kishore DID NOT LEARN
avjoshi07 2 months ago
@avjoshi07 I am definitely not narrow minded. I equally like Kishore as I love Rafisaab. Nobody on earth shall accept that Rafi could not sing the songs mentioned by you. Kishore could have never sung songs like Parda Hain Parda with the same Josh of Rafi saab. At the same time, Kishore has sung the songs mentioned by you very well. Kishore had unique yodelling features but it was first by Rafi. Theree are several songs which you might not be aware..
KrishnaRafian 2 months ago
Rafi did have a sweet voice, honestly better than KK, but KK's voice had a taste of Confidence, Masti, fullness towards Devotion, Pitch & Absoluteness. Even though if voices were to be more comcerned with, Rafi was better. But we have to see the quality of singing not the quality of voice. We see devotion towards the "assummed situation related with the movie" while singing... Let us rely on opinion of concerned & knowledgeable persons and not decide ourselves. Till I know each one prefers KK..
avjoshi07 5 months ago
@avjoshi07 Dude stop blowing ur trumpet ven nobody cares about wat u say!!!!
arnab175 5 months ago
@arnab175 , thanks. U are right.
dptxp 5 months ago
Please all my brothers, let us all rise above this "Relegionalism." I (and everyone) do accept dat Rafi was better than Manna dey, Jagjit singh, and everyone. Please accept dat KK was each time better than Rafi. Greatest musician S D Burman even prefered KK rather than Rafi. It was KK's sung that was accepted nice by all the classes of society, whether old ar youth. It were KK songs that fetched more income. Statistics tell so, I donot tell out of my whims. You have full freedom to verify these.
avjoshi07 5 months ago
Talk of yoddling, Rafi didnt ever knew wat it was. Composers always approached KK for it. Why not Rafi, I thought God knows everything!! I'm very sorry for hurting anyone, but my closest friend, I dont want to disclose his name, trust me is a Muslim. He prefers KK to Rafi. Once he himself told me "Because Rafi was a Muslim, each Muslim supports him. No one can bare dat a hindu can be greater than a single muslim. I(my frnd) has never even heard any muslim saying dat AB is better than DilipKumar"
avjoshi07 5 months ago
Have u ever heard dem singins 2gether? Hear the song- Bandh Muthi lakh ki-Film Chalti ka naam Zindagi." Notice dat wen Rafi sings, he pronounces-"Mmmehnat se na, Kkhhichdi pakana" putting xtra pressure on "M" & "Kh". If he was d God, why such nonsense singing? KK never commited such stupidities. Hear d song-"Mere naina saawan Bhadon-Film Mehbooba" RD Burman first approached Rafi but he couldnt. Of course KK also refused first, I'm being honest, but after insistion, he agreed.
avjoshi07 5 months ago
All you great stupid fools who consider Rafi as greater than KK, have all your senses gone DEAD!!? Do you really compare both without any prejudice towards KK? If Rafi was greater than Kishore, if people liked Rafi more than KK, then why were the music composer themselves not ready to pay Rafi more than KK? KK used to take his FULL fees in advance, which Rafi couldnt even demand for. Why did AB prefered KK to Rafi. Once Lata was asked that whom do miss the most? She instantly replied Kishoreda!
avjoshi07 5 months ago
BOTH WERE GEMS OF INDIAN MOVIE MUSIC. THE COMPARISON IS JUST LIKE WHO IS GREAT ALLAH OR BHAGWAN
psiddharth57 5 months ago
Singers,composers,lyricists should never be compared,they all are like flowers&every flower has its own fragrance.
NANDIKHANNA 5 months ago
There is no harm in comparing the best talents as long as the discussion is based on merits. Rafi sahab was an all rounder with immense and amazing range whereas Kishore da had his limitations, but whatever he sang was of the highest level. This song was probably out of Kishore da's comfort level, especially the high notes. There are a lot of singers now a days who can sing in high pitch, but their expression quotient leaves a lot to be desired.
JAI HIND!
kahli1704 6 months ago
Absolutely Ajay Sahab, I hope people understand this.
mangaltripathi03 6 months ago
Rafi voice, simply 'surr', melody at its zenith, sweeteness more than honey
akankshadevi 7 months ago
Manna dey sung more then rafi for kishore in late 40's and 50.
MrRyan587 7 months ago
no doubt Rafis singing is divine,how effortlessly he reaches a high pitch with the
voice giving a soulful effect-nobody can sing like this
rsckant 8 months ago
The best part is that if you do not look at the title, you may not realize that it is Rafi and not KK whose voice has been used. Rafi had the unique capability of sounding like the actors for whom he gave playback.
dptxp 9 months ago
Oh Rafi.. Iam choked with emotions
sumraa 11 months ago
Oh god! Will you guys STOP already? Isn't it clear enough that BOTH were equally beautiful, and if there was supposed to be a rivalry between the two they wouldn't have been friends!
TaniyaManiya 1 year ago
Kishore for youth, zeal, energy, versatality, performance and multidimensional talent. Rafi for pure, devine singing!!!
both r just unique..
respect them becuz in 70 years of indian cinema we could not find a single person of their calibre.
shushusui 1 year ago
Kishore kumar learned that music in the latter stage but Rafi Saheb was singing since childhood..Thats whay kishore JI is given the songe of Rafi Sahed.
Rafi Saheb was the master of all RAGS & classical that rare people know that time except LATA JI.
kaif35 1 year ago
if kishoreda had sang this would b a hit. manna da also sang for kishorda more times than rafi. it is praise for kishorda who raised himself so high.ruled 69to 87.it is prooved he is d hightest paid male singer( 1Rs less than lata ji).he is d voice of superstars. agar kishorda jinda hote to sharrukh ki aawaj hote.rajkapur saheb ne kaha tha-bhagwaan ne wo sancha hi thod diya jisse kishorda ko banaya.javed akhter saheb-kishoreda jaisi awaj na thi na hai na hogi.
pks1911 1 year ago
Kishore Sang some greate songs.he enjoy whatever he sang.u will enjoy each song of kishore.but the songs sung by rafi will reach into ur sole and give peace to ur sole.so kishore is greate singer but rafi is god himself.rafi yani khuda ki aawaz.thanks
TheKkverma 1 year ago
If Mohd. Rafi Sang for kishore kumar than wat is k.k in front of Mohd. Rafi.....No Dout Mohd. Rafi Is Best Singer Of India Ever
TheGoldenRafi 1 year ago
@TheGoldenRafi , rafi sang a song under kishoreda direction. aaj sabse jyada roylty kishorda ke songs se aati hai. sabse jyada remix kishorda ke songs hote hain.
pks1911 1 year ago
From 1:25 to 1:40 is the high pitch variation along with many others in this song that could only be rendered by Rafi Sahib. The music director did not want to modify this beautiful tune only to suit Kishore. Hence he used Rafi for this song.
gps786 1 year ago
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Rafi sahib passed away 30 years ago (31 July 1980), but his legend lives on as his voice still continues to entertain and amaze millions around the world. No one replaced humble, modest and pious Rafi sahib. He changed Indian film playback and music industry forever. He is a book on how to sing. His playback voice changed the fate of most Indian film actors, and made them superstars of their time. I am honoured to have met him, be his family's neighbour in London-UK. RIP Mohammed Rafi.
spsyed 1 year ago
This songs has parts that could only rendered with knowledge of classical music and had range (highs) not easy for KK. The music directors, hence, went for Rafi.
dptxp 1 year ago
Oh Rafi.. Iam choked with emotions. No words. SJ 's music as usual superb. Lyrics by Shailendra oh God that is outta this world. MK is pretty Kishore is quite expressive.
sonny19xx 1 year ago
rafi sahab is the all time best singer no one stands in front of him
19shivansh 1 year ago
@ Jissic98 , me too am far from India & Afghanistan. Rafi is not the King od Singing BUT the KING of the Kings/ Ustadons ka USTAD.
ms0507 1 year ago
tiktam51 1 year ago
I think they both did a song with same lyrics- it is in Pyar Ka mausam- Sonbg is Tum bin jao kahan-
Rafi's song sings for itself.
Kishore was second best in every category. Only reason Kishore or Mukesh sang fro so long was due to Lata and Rafi disagreements. She kept on giving air to these too.
JUTUBEEH 1 year ago
KISHORE WAS KING
leadcenobite11 1 year ago
NOT Kishor I was RAFI who did it for Kishore. That is the FACT.
Rmehtacpa 1 year ago
@Rmehtacpa YUR MUM SUCKS COCKS IN HELL U ILLITERATE FOOL
leadcenobite11 9 months ago
gr8
leadcenobite11 1 year ago
GR8
leadcenobite11 1 year ago
KK and Rafi Shahab both were the king of the same state of mind. No one should compare them with each other.
nasim329506 1 year ago
Hey Guys, Listen what he sings Wah Wah!!!
If Kishor was a talented singer he will sing for himself. but no he bagged Rafi Sahab to sing for him.
I am an Afghan and I am far From India, but i know that RAFI Sahab is the Fother of Playback singing in all over the wrold.
Please do not compare Rafi Sahab to anyone els. because He is King of Singing that's all.
Jissic98 1 year ago
Rafi was matching voice from mid 1950's. ANyone who says otherwise doesn't know movies.
Early 60's he had a voice fro Rajendra Kumar, Dharamendra, Dev Anand and later on he had one dfor Rajesh Khanna too. Of course in 50's he had a vocie reserved fro Dilip Kumar, and others.
JUTUBEEH 1 year ago
Absolutely. Rafi was gifted by GOD. He could match anyone's voice to sound exactly so. And when even he rendered songs for funster Johny, it was a perfect match.
Rmehtacpa 1 year ago
Kishore Kumar is better than 1. He is Number 0 (compared to Rafi, that is----otherwise, he was a pretty good singer)
JhankarofAnnArbor 1 year ago
Someone just mentioned Rafi could match any actor's voice? I beg to differ. I know he is a good singer but it was only in the late 60s that he started trying to match singers voices, which Kishoreda was a master in. I frankly believe that no matter how good a singer you are, the true essence of playback singing is 'matching the actor's voice and mannerisms', thats where I think Kishoreda sets the mark
ParthoGuru 2 years ago
plz do not spout such crap!! if kk 's voice suited all actors , then why is Rafisahab's voice used on kk himself, r u saying tht kk's voice didnt suit his own face??? lolzzzzzzz
Rafi sahab was voted singer of the millenium and is by far the best singer of the subcontinent and among the best in the world!
its sad tht ppl like u cannot accept the fact tht Rafi sahab till this day is the best just because he wasnt a hindu!!!
TheDiamondRafi 1 year ago
@ParthoGuru
thats correct!!
kishoreda even matched the voice of Pran, that too amazingly.. here is a point Rafi sounded relatively similar for almost every actor, people say that Kishoreda was more versatile than Rafi..well ppl can have long discussions on that,
to me its Kishoreda!!
shushusui 1 year ago
@shushusui
may be kishore kumar is a great singer though he couldnt sing classical songs.but plz dont compare with god of music moham.med rafi
nipu49 1 year ago
@ParthoGuru how many examples do you want me to give you regarding Rafi matching actors voices? I don't think you have been paying much attention.
missoni2009 1 year ago
very effective tune an also rafi.this was the era when rafi was on top and kishore was rendering voice to selected songs with some selected music directors. rafi is so versetile that he use to match his voice with different actors effectively.
durlabhpkolhe 2 years ago 2
ADDICTION!!! Intoxiqué!!! My dad used to whisper and whistle it.
Malleck1 2 years ago
Kishore Kumar will allways be a great artist all round, but Mohammed Rafi helped him to his success, because it's true he Kishore Kumar was unable to sing to high pitch and only the great Mohammed Rafi Sahib. Still they were great men who have given us all great joy and happiness. Khushy.
khushy100 2 years ago
@khushy100
Well said, n they were best freinds, kishore loved Rafi sahab and highly respected him, n vice versa.
TheDiamondRafi 1 year ago
Kishore Kummar is for sure no 1. and Mohd Rafi is incredibly unmatchable.
kakagul 2 years ago 2
kishoreda was is and will always be NO 1 but of course rafisaheb is great
jammyjo610 2 years ago
Kishore was not capable of singing this high pitch song.... that's all!
tasveeeren 2 years ago
Can anyone translate this beautiful song for me ? thanks a lot.
Malleck1 2 years ago
Kishore had such a hectic acting schedule those days he needed another singer to help him. That's all.
doovle 2 years ago
were did u get this from?
kamscall 2 years ago
i read somehwere that op.nayar got rafi to sing for kishore once bcos he was so impressed with his voice
kamscall 2 years ago
Nisa nette sa santé là mo pé dire. Largué piano mama, cassé dholok li djire.
Malleck1 2 years ago
Mohd. Rafi was the best singer in the world he was known as the man with the golden voice nobody on earth can match his voice even today.
tiktam51 2 years ago
In this ilm Kishore Kumar had double role,One is meenakumarislover and kishore sang or that charecter, second is her devar husbands brother who looks sameas her lover, or this charecter Rafi gave play back. film name Shararat.
apparaovv 2 years ago
Almost all Music directors used Rafi,KK,Mukhesh,Thalath in the same film for the same hero, In the mind of Music director to whoom the tune best suited is the criteria. S & J used Rafi & Mukhesh in somany films In Kinare Kinare(JayDev) you can see Rafi Thalath,Mukhesh & Mannadey were used. PLEASE DONT WASTE U-TUBE FOR " WHO IS GREAT " ARGUMENTS . All are great , they can not survive somany years otherwiae . Compare to today's singers how fast they fading out . Arani Apparao-HYD
araniapparao 2 years ago 9
aaah this one is much better than the sad version.. the sad version didnt look in sync at all
gengarjetty 2 years ago
The two greats SHANKAR JAIKISHAN gave very few songs to to GREAT KISHORE DA this a truth 03332604292
nawabshaukat 2 years ago
Everytime I see posts comparing Rafi and Kishore, raising one and dissing another, I feel bad. Both are gifts to us, and let us cherish them, instead of pouring out our biases. Both gave a distinct flavor to our music and gave us decades worth of classic music. They themselves got along really well and respected each other. As for the reason Rafi sang this song was that Kishore got into dispute with the producer HS Rawail and refused to record it after the movie was made. As simple as that.
ajay1124 2 years ago 12
@ajay1124
U said it buddy!!
they both r the legends...both defined music in their own ways..and both have amazing fan following..its a pity to see people fighting,while these legends always respected each other!!!
people r free to have their opinion but shud not press upon!!
enjoy the music.
shushusui 1 year ago
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dptxp 11 months ago
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dptxp 11 months ago
@ajay1124 , please do not spread wrong info. Just check on internet. KK did not have the range for this one, nor the classical training.
The Music Director decided this.
dptxp 5 months ago
suting of voice of THE GREATEST EVER PLAYBACK SINGER MOHAMMAD RAFI is entirely another topic The thing is that the song which was composed by another legends SHANKAER JAIKISHAN according to their opinion this song was not suiting KISHORE DA the another GIANT style so they preffersd rafi saab rather than kishoreda WHO IS NO 1 AND WHO IS NOT EVERY BODY KNOWS TAHT IT IS COMMON PLACE so no need to discuss taht topic which is already been decided 03332604292
nawabshaukat 2 years ago
Great score by SJ sung well by Rafi. KK and Meena are quite ok.Meena I love her.
Can anything equal the pleasure of listening to such songs .. All said SJ steals the show . SJ the composer duo , who rocked through their entire careers.. THANKS hnj50 a million
sonny19xx 2 years ago
wow beautiful song with a great voice like all his songs impossible to imitate thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,,
7marguerite 2 years ago
" Hum mathwaale Naujawan " and " Theraa theer o bepeer " are from Sharaarath only. Kishore's " Surma mera niraalaa Hai koyi najar waalaa " is from Kabhi Andhera kabhi ujaala of OPNayyar - Arani Apparao(HYD)
araniapparao 2 years ago
It was not the rate but the love of Rafi Saabs voice. O P Nayyar also insisted on Rafi saab for a few songs picturised on Kishore.
rsckant 2 years ago
Unbelievable!!! was there any song in this movie sung by kishore?
krishnendu253 3 years ago
SHARARAT (1959)
KISHORE KUMAR, MEENA KUMARI, RAAJ KUMAR, KUMKUM, RAJENDRA NATH, SUNDER, JAGDISH RAJ
Produced By: ROSHNI FILM
Directed By: H. S. RAWAIL
Music By: SHANKER JAIKISHAN
COMEDY, GOOD MUSIC ***
PankajDalal 3 years ago
Most favorite
nandu1f 3 years ago
Great song. Can you please upload "Hum Matwale Naujawan", please? Thanks
manojacob 3 years ago
For once I watched Kishore singing and I liked it, because, it made him look like a great actor singing in Rafi's voice.
ShaamRafiKeNaam 3 years ago
Rafi's voice doesn't suit Kishore Kumar at all. Kishore Kumar was the greatest singer that Hindi Cinema has ever produced. He was a genius. There wasn't/isn't and will not be another Kishore Kumar.
kishorepremi 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I never considered Kishore Kumar as a singer and he never impressed me in any of his songs. In fact, when I used to visit movies, I only saw a film if it did not have a Kishore song or if there was one which I visited, then I would walk out of the theatre.
PrinceEhich 2 years ago
Kishore himself slapped a person like u when he said such a poor word for rafi sahab,,,,,u can check details,,how kishore kum respected Rafi sahab,,,
Radha2010k 2 years ago
Rafi Saheb was a true singer.
MrHusseinSheikh 2 years ago
Nothing great in KK, he was a joker. No one can be compared with Rafi Saheb. Not even Lata.
MrHusseinSheikh 2 years ago
ur right brother.....today all respect goes to lata.....but then the crystal clear voice of Rafi and on top of that correct pronounciation....Rafi is indeed ahead of Lata.....
russelindia 2 years ago
Why are you comparing price of marbles in India with price of wheat in China?
aptkp 2 years ago
Brother you are getting me wrong.....I am not saying that Lata was not a good singer...definately she was...there is no doubt...but what I said you could not get.....I was saying that rafi sahabs pronounciation was right....this statement does not mean that lata is not good....I would be a ididot to say so....
russelindia 2 years ago
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nawabshaukat 2 years ago
Rafi singing for Kishore, Wow, what a beautiful song.
ShaamRafiKeNaam 3 years ago 2
thanks...yea its a beautiful song sung by greatest voice
golaswati 3 years ago
I was looking for this song and am surprised it was picturised on Kishore Kumar, after all, he was not able to sing and that was why it was given to Rafi to sing for him. Ha ha ha,
PrinceEhich 3 years ago
Feels weird! I am so used to expect Kishores voice. Nice song - feels weird :)
nix2177 3 years ago
good piece of knowledge
vivsbhai 3 years ago
the only presons who could do this song were shankar jaikishen and mohammed rafi i think kishore kumar was only doing yodelling in those days . uski bas ki baat nahi thi.
yusufjuneja08 3 years ago
what a nice combination of all legends " Mohd. Raffi/Kishore Kumar & Late OP Nayyar "
one of the fantastic songs .
akarshik 3 years ago 3
One of the finest song sung by late Mohammed Raffi Jee " Excellent Music, lyrics and most nice he sang for another legend " Kishore Kumar " Salute to You Tube for such displaying such nice songs.
akarshik 4 years ago 3
I read somewhere that Kishore Kumar fell out with the producer of the movie and refused to record this song. That is how Rafi saab got to record it. Nevertheless we got a gem out of this, if it were true.
ajay1124 3 years ago 3
One can well believe it - he was such an eccentric!!
DilipCoulagi 3 years ago
I believe Kishore da's singing rate was higher then acting rate , so producers used Rafi saab .
swapanroy 3 years ago
Its Beautiful I was Searching this song From A long time since 5 yrs b4 thanks You tube and the One who has upload this video Awesome
fkasmani 4 years ago
RAFI SAHAB TUSI BEMISAL HO
abdulnarayan77 4 years ago
Rafi Sahib- The Greatest!
londoniran 4 years ago
wah janab- kahna hi kiya?
maza aa gaya-purane gane bhi kiya gane the,kiya bol kiya sangeet kiya awaz, sone pe suhaga.
ek rafi ka hi geet hai agar woh aap ke pass hai to bhejna please.gane ke bol hain ujar gaya panchhi ab tera basera, toot gai woh dali jis pe tune dala dera. film ghar ki laaj.
thanks.
jeetbusy 4 years ago 2
The song is unique in the sense that Rafi sang the song for Kishore Kumar who is a playback singer himself. The soft and beautiful voice of Rafi with high pitch at the end of each stanza is superb. The entire orchestration of this piano based song is simply the best. There is a perfect dialogue between piano and English flute/solo violin between the Mukhda and stanza shows the musical genius of Shankar Jaikishan. In my opinion it is one of the best songs of Rafi ever to be recorded.
V. N. Rao
vnr1945 4 years ago 3
Shankar-Jaikishen composed a song for this movie. It is a duet sung by Geeta Dutt and Kishore Kumar which goes like this "Dekh Aasmamem Chand Musakaya .." It is lovely duet...
asubby 4 years ago
great song thank u very much
mohamedparvez 4 years ago
Great. Kindly try to locate other songs in the same movie.There may be a song "Surma mera nirala aankhon mein jisne dala ....." by Kishore.
desikann 4 years ago
The song "surma mera nirala" is from Kahin Andhera Kahin Ujala". Music by OP Nayyar
ajay1124 3 years ago
I think it is 'Kabhi Andhera Kabhi Ujala'.
DilipCoulagi 3 years ago
That one is from Kabhi Andhera Kabhi Ujala, music by O.P.Nayyar.......
DilipCoulagi 3 years ago
Most versatile singer off course.
dilij 4 years ago
Rafi's voice suited every actor on Screen.
MohdAzgarKhan 4 years ago
o god- this killen me-- wat a gr8 song-- and for Kishor kumar-tooooo goood--- thanx4upload
asim306 4 years ago