i dont have anything against Tc i was actually gonna get 1 but at the last minute i changed my mind for an Si plus the color they were going to give me was a light blue--maybe it just me but cmon ppl a good 85% of the drivers of Tc are female. no problem with that just not me and my little brother(17yo) just got a sexy yellow S2K
@rythymsmoke...uhhh no I aint mad dude, I can beat a stock s2000 that shit aint hard...and so u know, I wax v8's on the street and never lost to a v8 with my honda. And If I was to buy a car it would be a s2000, a TC? Fuck no wouldn't waste money on a car that has no top end power, I'd rather buy a v8
@vtecnegro85 Put it on video, cause after seeing that acceleration video...I highly doubt you can beat an S2k even stock, nor beat a V8. I have beat Evo's and STI's on the top end with my tC....difference is I have that on video rather than just "saying" that I have.
@rhythmnsmoke In order to beat a stock evo with a TC you would have to have 260whp so if you do congrats on your good build.. but i'm sorry that you still have FWD.
@frankd14321 Being FWD means nothing when I'm winning. What does a 10sec fwd car have in common with a 10sec AWD or RWD car? You get one answer...lol. And it wasn't just a stock Evo. It was an Evo 9 MR. I've raced against and beaten cars that were faster than a normal stock Evo.
TC is a shitty ass car...but it did put it on that s2000s ass though...but yea a boosted s2000 is kinda untouchable...yall check out that s2000 frm hell
@vtecnegro85 I bet you would REALLY be pissed then after watching my vids of my tC passing up S2k's on the race track then huh...LOL. So much for tC's being a shitty ass car.
A Civic isn't 6 grand more than a Scion, when you option out a Scion it gets expensive like an Si and still sin't that sporty. The Si has a sport suspension and and LSD and more power
@MaddDogg81 And Less torque. Anyone wanting to make a tC quick, knows you don't do factory options. You go aftermarket. Thus again, being cheaper than an SI from the dealer.
The TC is by far the best car I have owned...It has very good acceleration and decent handling...
I had a hard time passing or racing in my civics....The Tc helps me keep up and at times pass some of the other expensive cars who think they are the shit on the highway
More than likely you don't own an 87 GNX. And if you did, and it was actually fast....the minute you decided to involve anything to do with "turning"....you would end up in a ditch...lol.
Like you would know what I own? believe it or not man. Who cares what you think. And true, it isn't the best at turning. But straight up drag = you lose nine times outta ten.
Oh give it a rest. You can't even drag it either. Probably your daddy's car if you even have one that is. I always find people like you funny because yall all jump on here talking about how you have X car and it will smash on the cars in the video. Then when I click on your name to check it out.....I find nothing. Like usual.
the s2000 is a car thats in a totally different league, compared to the scion. Both cars engineered for different purposes. overall the S2k is car built specifically for the the race track. Scion built for gas saving boredom.
Yet both are bad ass when turned into track cars. Evident by the championship trophies the Scion tC keeps racking up. Most recent was the win in NASA National Championships.
Listen to yourself do you think honda engineers are sitting at a table like her how can we make a great car to rice out and street race. Un like honda Scion has sponsored events for those owners who choose to modify and race their scions... Legally. In a sense though your right they are not meant for street racing but put what you want on em and go to a road course
Hmm, I'm pretty sure Honda is sponsored with racing? There's Spoon Sports Civic Type R, there's NSX's for touring racing, and there's Honda's F1s, but that's Japan sponsors, and I don't pay attention to American racing cause most of it isn't great, at all.
Scion has its pro sponsored cars too with Jackson Dawson, World racing, Decendant motorsports, Dezod, Marshal Pruit, and a few others plus 2 of the formula D drift tcs are running modified trd nascar motors but those are all american companies and most are scion only shops. but what i meant was toyota will provide tracks and events for scion owners with modified scions to hit the track after a rules and reg class. The last 2 i went to were in ATL at road ATL and ATL motor speedway.
lol so wrong That slugish ass car. yeah around 210 hp at the crank doesnt put down any where near that to the wheels. I have never had a prelude come close to beating my tc. had 00 si's with b16's do better that that h22..
I own a 2001 S2000(Turboed) and a 2009 TC (Stock). They are both good cars and both good looking.. The TC is the drive around car that we bought late last year. And for a Scion the TC does have some kick... However I wish it has more head room..
It really depends on the s2000 on how much horse power it has.. 240 ap1 stock and 237 ap2. Also weighs 2809 pounds and the tc supercharge normally is about 200 hp (161 sock) weighing at 2932. The TC does have more torgue tho however front will drive so isnt to much fun for tricks. There is no doubt in my mind that the s2000 would be in the lead.
turbo's for the tc have come a long way. ptuning's new turbo gives you 400hp for 4.5k and i just bought a 05 tc for 7k. i win u lose my edick is bigger. hahaha
I love how everyones like the tC is a womens car..the last time i checked Vans were made for women, not performance cars..and everyone has a different idea on the subject. The fact is there both cars, Nice cars at that.
yes, they have derived units. but my point is that that hp doesnt say much about a car.. it is said that torque wins you races, and hp makes sales. in other words, torque = acceleration, hp = top speed.
okay say thats true, wouldn't that mean diesels would beat all equivelent petrols in straight line races because they more torque? something is telling me that's not the case.
Dude completely not true, think about it a stock tc vs a stock s2000....160torque both...roughly.....the s2000 still does a mid 14 sec 1/4 mile while the tc struggles for mid to lower 15's....
Okay everyone, please enough with the "hatin". First of all BOTH cars are great. I love the tC (own one) and love the s2k. What makes it bad for BOTH cars are . . . it's drivers!! So STFU and get over yourselves. BOTH cars are great and I wouldn't mind driving s2k or a s/c tC . .doesn't matter who won. Who cares?
@hatejapanesecars A lot of people don't seem to understand that the S2000 is a full purpose Track-Car. Btw, The S2000 has plenty of potential, from Gears, to Forced induction. I have a Boosted S2000 myself, and I don't think I'll be losing to a Boosted TC anytime soon. Drag, or no Drag. In my opinion, the S2000 is overall the better car.
After reading all these comments it is obvious that a stock s2k is going to destroy a stock tc. a s2k starts at around 34k and a tc around 18k. with that price difference i would hope that the s2k would be faster.but if u slap on a 5k turbocharger on the tc u have a little of a faster car for around 10k less. but dont get me wrong i am a fan of s2k's but i am just stating a fact.
Actually the stock s2000 has what, like 240whp off the bat? The scion has about 160whp. The supercharger, when istalled by the dealer, should warrant a total of about 198whp. If he has a racing header, s-pipe, and efficient exhaust, plus a cold air intake, he would be looking at about 215whp (if done correctly). Add a 9.5PSI pulley to that and I'd say they are right around the same whp. But the tc with s/c has higher boost in the mid to high rpm range. It's possible.
internet fights woo hoo morons! anyways good video and close race . glad 2 c the tc win. would abeen nice to have more info on the mods done to both cars though. peace!
Looks to me like the S2K gave up. Not saying that the outcome would have been any different otherwise, but hey, a race is a race, and the tC won. Good job, tC.
TC for girls? so is the Mustang and who drives them the most? males. so stfu about how tc is a girls car.
Fact on mustangs, Mustang is referred as to muscular horse, which was aimed for women when it FIRST was released but as time went, more males started to drive them and mod them due its performance.
No, that's where you're wrong. Only girls or femme guys drive TC's, guys who beat their girlfriends drive Mustangs. It's practically science. Somebody has to say it.
trust me kid, mustangs were first developed to be aim at women, get ur facts straight.
And only girls or femme guys drive a tC and its pratically science?? da fuk uve been smokin lately. So if a girl driving a STi pulls up and smokes ur ass while ur in a mustang, that makes ur car a pussy cuz it cant win a girl? put some logical sense into kid.
First off, you're weird as fuck. I was never talking about Mustangs and don't know why you keep trying to convince me that Ford's focus was to sell mustangs to female buyers, because I could honestly not give a fuck less. Moot point, when we're talking about an ugly yellow S2K and how I would still choose that over the lame TC. In fact, I have no clue what the fuck you're talking about in general.
What makes a man "manly"? And what makes man "femme", as you put it. I am a guy, and I am very interested in the Scion TC. I don't consider myself feminin. But take the Miata for example, just because a man doesn't want pure, brute power from a car, but rather quickness and agility, it does not make that man "unmanly" or weak.
@Theshadowrazor Absolutely. I own a tC and I've loved every second of it, and I don't think anyone would walk up to me outside of internet land and call me feminine. At least it wouldn't be in their best interest. Don't let internet "billy badass"s get at you. Half of them are 16 year olds still driving their moms cars, and the other half are rednecks who hate anything other than domestics. The tC is a great car.
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how come when a scion owner always has to put a turbo in there car just for it to have a chance with a honda. like that queer said run what you brung so bring your gf stock tc and run a s2k , even a stock fit would win over a tc.
Too bad an s2000 that comes standard with an i-vtec engine(which at that point is obviously faster than a stock Tc) is worth well over 15k more than a Tc and when a Tc slaps on a 5k turbocharger with atleast 10psi pushing it over 280-300whp it then smashes on an s2000 annnnd that Tc owner is still waaay under what the s2000 owner has payed..
and NO, i dont hate Honda.. i just hate when you "honda 4 life" kids swear up and down the block that vtec is the best..
and to that chucky guy you as well are also ignorant. aluminum blocks are used on many applications and have seen way more than 300whp unsleeved. but thats besides the point. NISSANS ARE BETTER ANYWAY
really the tc is a girls car. and whoever said it is a 2.4 and a k20 is a 2.0 is just ignorant. you know NOTHING about cars go back to domestics. sorry to the fanboys but its kind of sad it needed a supercharger and nitrous to keep up with a stock s2k. the tc is a peice of shit. people only make 400with 22psi on a tc. that says how shitty the cars head flows. the car is made for a girl to go from point a to b and her friends to say its a cute car.
well the s2000 costs a lot more than the tC even with the 3 grand for the supercharger. Anyway even with the supercharger the tC still has less horsepower
tats 1 reason y i dnt lyk honda, low torque, if it was from a dig, the s2k might have had him....MIGHT, but u decided to do the wrong thing and race prolly from lyk 20 or 30, thats when the tc pulls the best, sorry, & dont hate on the whole torque debate, think about it, whats the deff of torque....it is relevant when it comes to cars, so the more the better
to bad toyota no longer has any ge heads that put in their sportyier cars. somthing tells me that a 2.4 makes more tq then a 2.0 with short rod stroke.
I hate to break it to the Honduh guys but yea this is the fact...
research about the scion tc and you'll realize how much more powerful it can get. If you don't like it, just leave it alone and go play with your toys.
who gives a fuck look how homo a scion looks and then look how sexy an s2k is theres no debate, in any type of race other then a straight line the s2000 would shine belive me
These 2 cars are in completely different levels. stock for stock, S2K wins, and even worse, see an s2k on the track. my friend owns a TC and admits handling sucks. also with no torque, the s2k makes up for its light weight which is why it gets 0-60 in under 6 sec. no replacement for displacement 2.0 L vs 2.4 L.
i would only use nitrous if i wasa racing for pinks or a large amount of money. other then that race n/a and see who is the better driver to prove yourself
well technically it is. you're making the car go faster with a spray, the car isnt doing it by itself and mods. it's like strapping a rocket to it...it WILL be faster, but it really isnt.
nitrous is a mod like anything else. just like if i tuned my car on e85 i could boost all night without problems, but all i did was swap injectors and use different fuel.
I would like to see you running on autox with nitrous. Let's see how far you can go before your bottle runs out and you become slower like you really would be.
yeah ok, i'm sure that's why turbo drag cars always seem to be nitrous at launch.
Meth or water injection just decreases detonation and allows for more boost, which will increase spool but only becasue your wastegate isn't opening as early.
Honda and Toyota make very good cars. Very reliable engines. All cars are different, some have thier pros and cons. Who cares though? It depends which car suits you best. =D
well tushu, of course the S2K would prolly get better times because of a little thing called RWD. yea, and most street racing is straight line because you cant just go down to a track and say let me run here.
ahhaha you guys are funny.. most of you guys only think about the straight.... but what about on track even with the tc being supercharged s2000 will still get better lap times
andrewn 721 Your a idiot , Let do that work on a s2000, that t.c would get beat like a red headed step child, Have you ever seen a R 3000, a six cylinder gone type R ? that S2k comes like that from the dealer Lets turbo charge or supercharge it what ever is best for that engine, then lets see who gets whipped!
ok dont call someone an idiot if you dont know correct grammar. ok now go get an s2000 and supercharge/turbo charge it and tell me how much money you spent. if a 18,000 car with a 3k kit can either beat or come even close to a stock 34,000 dollar car, its worth it. if you have to upgrade an expensive car like that just to beat a tC then you suck at life.
for the tc it's not "just a 3k kit" you're looking more at 7-10k for a quality turbo and clutch, brakes, lsd, tuning, management etc etc
you can find a solid used s2k for around 16-20 and i'd rather take that. in fact i just got rid of my tc and it looks like s2k is next on the plate :) and yes the guy above you makes a good point that the fwd tc is useless on the track. much love to the old tc but the s2k looked like he let off in the video
Sorry but torque`LESS honda`s or acura`s or i need sleeves to get over 300hp becouse my aluminum block is to weak will beat an iron block toyota THAT IS TUNED FOR RACING !!!! my car beats v-garbage all day on TORQUE ALONE. i even own a honda my wife drives it wont see me in it.
Sorry but torque`LESS honda`s or acura`s or i need sleeves to get over 300hp becouse my aluminum block is to weak will beat an iron block toyota THAT IS TUNED FOR RACING !!!! my car beats v-garbage all day on TORQUE ALONE. i evan own a honda my wife drives it wont see me in it.
In our family, I've got an S2000 and my brother's have tC's. I like both cars respectively, but I have to agree with the fact that (without knowing what the S2K/tC had) the S2000 should not have lost. I've beaten a supercharged tC no problem when all I had was intake and headers.
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killerspoofings 1 year ago
close your windows
killerspoofings 1 year ago
i dont have anything against Tc i was actually gonna get 1 but at the last minute i changed my mind for an Si plus the color they were going to give me was a light blue--maybe it just me but cmon ppl a good 85% of the drivers of Tc are female. no problem with that just not me and my little brother(17yo) just got a sexy yellow S2K
felacsvt 1 year ago
@felacsvt More like 60% not 85%.
rhythmnsmoke 1 year ago
i bought a tc cuz i wanted to moddable import without dealing with the honda crowd -.- those guys are disturbing
stealthcorvette 1 year ago
LMAO, sooo stupid.
frankd14321 1 year ago
@rythymsmoke...uhhh no I aint mad dude, I can beat a stock s2000 that shit aint hard...and so u know, I wax v8's on the street and never lost to a v8 with my honda. And If I was to buy a car it would be a s2000, a TC? Fuck no wouldn't waste money on a car that has no top end power, I'd rather buy a v8
vtecnegro85 1 year ago
@vtecnegro85 Put it on video, cause after seeing that acceleration video...I highly doubt you can beat an S2k even stock, nor beat a V8. I have beat Evo's and STI's on the top end with my tC....difference is I have that on video rather than just "saying" that I have.
rhythmnsmoke 1 year ago
@rhythmnsmoke In order to beat a stock evo with a TC you would have to have 260whp so if you do congrats on your good build.. but i'm sorry that you still have FWD.
frankd14321 1 year ago
@frankd14321 Being FWD means nothing when I'm winning. What does a 10sec fwd car have in common with a 10sec AWD or RWD car? You get one answer...lol. And it wasn't just a stock Evo. It was an Evo 9 MR. I've raced against and beaten cars that were faster than a normal stock Evo.
rhythmnsmoke 1 year ago
TC is a shitty ass car...but it did put it on that s2000s ass though...but yea a boosted s2000 is kinda untouchable...yall check out that s2000 frm hell
vtecnegro85 1 year ago
@vtecnegro85 I bet you would REALLY be pissed then after watching my vids of my tC passing up S2k's on the race track then huh...LOL. So much for tC's being a shitty ass car.
rhythmnsmoke 1 year ago
@vtecnegro85 You drive a slow ass Civic yet a tC is a shitty ass car....LOL. Typical youtube commentators.
rhythmnsmoke 1 year ago
A Civic isn't 6 grand more than a Scion, when you option out a Scion it gets expensive like an Si and still sin't that sporty. The Si has a sport suspension and and LSD and more power
MaddDogg81 1 year ago
@MaddDogg81 And Less torque. Anyone wanting to make a tC quick, knows you don't do factory options. You go aftermarket. Thus again, being cheaper than an SI from the dealer.
rhythmnsmoke 1 year ago
I had 3 Honda civics in my life .
-90 CIvic Hatch
-97 Civic EX
-01 Civic LX
I traded in the LX for a 2008 Scion TC 5 /speed
The TC is by far the best car I have owned...It has very good acceleration and decent handling...
I had a hard time passing or racing in my civics....The Tc helps me keep up and at times pass some of the other expensive cars who think they are the shit on the highway
bigboo67 1 year ago
@bigboo67 have you driven a Civic Si, they are faster than a TC
MaddDogg81 1 year ago
@MaddDogg81 HAHAHAH the si has a mad blind spot!!! and cost like 4-6 gs more
DEZUZD 1 year ago
@MaddDogg81 I have. They are slower in the 1/8th mile, but faster in the 1/4 mile.
rhythmnsmoke 1 year ago
LOL and i would still buy the s2000!! XD
Flintc08 1 year ago 2
dont underestimate the tc!!!
URELL17 2 years ago 3
@URELL17 boom scion nation!!
hector1234 1 year ago
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haha you guys are all fags. My 87 Buick GNX will trash ANYTHING you throw at it!
hawaiicalls25 2 years ago
More than likely you don't own an 87 GNX. And if you did, and it was actually fast....the minute you decided to involve anything to do with "turning"....you would end up in a ditch...lol.
rhythmnsmoke 2 years ago
Like you would know what I own? believe it or not man. Who cares what you think. And true, it isn't the best at turning. But straight up drag = you lose nine times outta ten.
hawaiicalls25 2 years ago
Oh give it a rest. You can't even drag it either. Probably your daddy's car if you even have one that is. I always find people like you funny because yall all jump on here talking about how you have X car and it will smash on the cars in the video. Then when I click on your name to check it out.....I find nothing. Like usual.
rhythmnsmoke 2 years ago
9 out of 10? Doubt it, theres wrx right down my road that will put you under 10 times out of 10, drag or turns. Good Luck with your GNX.
xfadeld 2 years ago
not my s2000. haha i guarantee you.
johngo1224 2 years ago
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ssdh22accord 2 years ago
That's not even a turbo tC dumbass. Learn to read. Had it been turboed it would have been worse.
rhythmnsmoke 2 years ago
Hell a bolt on RSX wihtout KPro can beat a SC Scion
MaddDogg81 2 years ago 2
the s2000 is a car thats in a totally different league, compared to the scion. Both cars engineered for different purposes. overall the S2k is car built specifically for the the race track. Scion built for gas saving boredom.
Fiji1234 2 years ago
Yet both are bad ass when turned into track cars. Evident by the championship trophies the Scion tC keeps racking up. Most recent was the win in NASA National Championships.
rhythmnsmoke 2 years ago
scion=fail
dodgehemitruck345 2 years ago
brother use to own one, pretty slow, if i had to pick...i'd say a s2000 would beat a s/c tc any day
poonannidanny 2 years ago
Apparently not on this day...lol.
rhythmnsmoke 2 years ago 2
scion rules..!!!
dhdnjo 2 years ago 2
Scion sucks nuts, even if not meant for street racing don't use it for street racing duh.
zeroangel25 2 years ago
Listen to yourself do you think honda engineers are sitting at a table like her how can we make a great car to rice out and street race. Un like honda Scion has sponsored events for those owners who choose to modify and race their scions... Legally. In a sense though your right they are not meant for street racing but put what you want on em and go to a road course
TcToshi 2 years ago 4
Hmm, I'm pretty sure Honda is sponsored with racing? There's Spoon Sports Civic Type R, there's NSX's for touring racing, and there's Honda's F1s, but that's Japan sponsors, and I don't pay attention to American racing cause most of it isn't great, at all.
zeroangel25 2 years ago
Scion has its pro sponsored cars too with Jackson Dawson, World racing, Decendant motorsports, Dezod, Marshal Pruit, and a few others plus 2 of the formula D drift tcs are running modified trd nascar motors but those are all american companies and most are scion only shops. but what i meant was toyota will provide tracks and events for scion owners with modified scions to hit the track after a rules and reg class. The last 2 i went to were in ATL at road ATL and ATL motor speedway.
TcToshi 2 years ago
is there a web page to know where the next even is? i live i AZ and i hear nothing about those events
ARTik161989 2 years ago
scion power
DEZUZD 2 years ago
you mean lack there of
jonbar87 2 years ago
Sounds are like fighter jets! Very intense audio! Nice ride man - Sci-OOOOOOooown!
byebyehooptie 2 years ago
scions suck
jonbar87 2 years ago
preludes are straight shit?
DEZUZD 2 years ago
fail. again
jonbar87 2 years ago
Preludes would still beat a Scion with an H22 vtec, around 210HP?
zeroangel25 2 years ago
lol so wrong That slugish ass car. yeah around 210 hp at the crank doesnt put down any where near that to the wheels. I have never had a prelude come close to beating my tc. had 00 si's with b16's do better that that h22..
TcToshi 2 years ago
I own a 2001 S2000(Turboed) and a 2009 TC (Stock). They are both good cars and both good looking.. The TC is the drive around car that we bought late last year. And for a Scion the TC does have some kick... However I wish it has more head room..
speedydbs 2 years ago
not trying to be an ass just covering bases but my dad has the same prob. did u try lowering the seat?
twindragonslegend 2 years ago
It really depends on the s2000 on how much horse power it has.. 240 ap1 stock and 237 ap2. Also weighs 2809 pounds and the tc supercharge normally is about 200 hp (161 sock) weighing at 2932. The TC does have more torgue tho however front will drive so isnt to much fun for tricks. There is no doubt in my mind that the s2000 would be in the lead.
speedydbs 2 years ago
although it is my tc lol i love my 07
twindragonslegend 2 years ago
dont care if its slow.
tc is the sexiest car on the planet. tee hee
stinkypooman 2 years ago
Horsepower @ rpm 237 @ 7800
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm) 162 @ 6800 honda
Redline (rpm) 8000
s2000 specs
lol 240 hp give me a fuckin break honda s2000 has week ass torq thats why it has to rev so high they fuckin suck
wolfhybridman360 2 years ago
TC's have 161 hp @6000rpm 162tq @4000rpm
looks like to me they have the same tq but s2k has way more hp and is rear wheele drive which is better for dragracing
b18bteg 2 years ago
Any car besides the evo with a 2.0 liter engine is made for a girl. this is embarrassing. get the fuckk outa here.
H1mynameisLarry 2 years ago
lol what a nub
FtweentytwoCone 2 years ago
Race any 2 liter car STOCK, they are useless piece of shits. !!!!!!!!!!!!!
H1mynameisLarry 2 years ago
u called drag racing racing? seriously if u really think going in a straight line is the shit then u need to fucken grow up. Fucken idiot
FtweentytwoCone 2 years ago 2
well it is the most popular form of RACING in the united states.
ericjackson40 2 years ago
nice i have a 05 scion tc i want a supercharger what brand is it
bubbynichols 3 years ago
Its probably TRD, Toyota Racing Development. They make good HP and wont void your warantee.
eddy663 3 years ago
Turbo tC > S/Ced tC
rhythmnsmoke 2 years ago
turbo's for the tc have come a long way. ptuning's new turbo gives you 400hp for 4.5k and i just bought a 05 tc for 7k. i win u lose my edick is bigger. hahaha
DarkTemp69 3 years ago
Damn, that Scion totally wiped the road with that S2000!
Georgenfla 3 years ago
yup and he needed a blower to do it!
mattfra1 2 years ago 2
I love how everyones like the tC is a womens car..the last time i checked Vans were made for women, not performance cars..and everyone has a different idea on the subject. The fact is there both cars, Nice cars at that.
dirtbike92 3 years ago
THat's Sexist. There are plenty of women drivers who like fast cars, I even know one.
eddy663 3 years ago
funny how people argue over horsepower... no one ever mentions torque.
viper2788 3 years ago 5
dont you need torque to find out the hp? just wondering correct me if im wrong
PhoBoDacBiet 3 years ago
yes, they have derived units. but my point is that that hp doesnt say much about a car.. it is said that torque wins you races, and hp makes sales. in other words, torque = acceleration, hp = top speed.
viper2788 3 years ago
okay say thats true, wouldn't that mean diesels would beat all equivelent petrols in straight line races because they more torque? something is telling me that's not the case.
jimreppinb14 3 years ago
Dude completely not true, think about it a stock tc vs a stock s2000....160torque both...roughly.....the s2000 still does a mid 14 sec 1/4 mile while the tc struggles for mid to lower 15's....
gymotc 3 years ago
actually your wrong.... the s2000 does 13.5 stock. it has 240 to 250hp depending on the year. i think the s2000 would win, the driver sucks...
B18Ckid 2 years ago
S2k does NOT do 13.5 stock...
rhythmnsmoke 2 years ago 3
13.8 with a great driver
NutWarrior 2 years ago
You would have to have a near perfect run.
rhythmnsmoke 2 years ago
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Ill say what i say everytime there is a 'bad' honda driver: s2000, rsx-s and si WILL beat a supercharged or turbo'd tC. - sorry, go back to sleep. :)
cpwoods79 3 years ago
turbo tc will put out almost 300 hp... and no i'm not a fan boy i have a cobalt so if anything i hate tc's
widowedeight 3 years ago
Okay everyone, please enough with the "hatin". First of all BOTH cars are great. I love the tC (own one) and love the s2k. What makes it bad for BOTH cars are . . . it's drivers!! So STFU and get over yourselves. BOTH cars are great and I wouldn't mind driving s2k or a s/c tC . .doesn't matter who won. Who cares?
BNR34VSPEC 3 years ago 2
Yada yada yada ur just talk. tC won end of story. tC knows what he is running and so does s2k
Dj468198 3 years ago 12
@Dj468198 supercharge the f-series and the s2k will wreck the tC. and this is despite the fact that the f-series does not response well to mods.
hatejapanesecars 1 year ago
@hatejapanesecars A lot of people don't seem to understand that the S2000 is a full purpose Track-Car. Btw, The S2000 has plenty of potential, from Gears, to Forced induction. I have a Boosted S2000 myself, and I don't think I'll be losing to a Boosted TC anytime soon. Drag, or no Drag. In my opinion, the S2000 is overall the better car.
OfficerF22C1 1 year ago
Street racing is for ricers. An S2000 will kill a TC on a real track.
oziumzx 3 years ago
well the description of this video does not say any mods of the s2k so it must be stock
surprisingly i thought this would be a close match between sc tc vs s2k. but seems like tc had a good driver to win at the end like that.
calvinhuh 3 years ago
this race is not fair
ragingvietdevil 3 years ago
After reading all these comments it is obvious that a stock s2k is going to destroy a stock tc. a s2k starts at around 34k and a tc around 18k. with that price difference i would hope that the s2k would be faster.but if u slap on a 5k turbocharger on the tc u have a little of a faster car for around 10k less. but dont get me wrong i am a fan of s2k's but i am just stating a fact.
nymetsfan1545 3 years ago
Actually the stock s2000 has what, like 240whp off the bat? The scion has about 160whp. The supercharger, when istalled by the dealer, should warrant a total of about 198whp. If he has a racing header, s-pipe, and efficient exhaust, plus a cold air intake, he would be looking at about 215whp (if done correctly). Add a 9.5PSI pulley to that and I'd say they are right around the same whp. But the tc with s/c has higher boost in the mid to high rpm range. It's possible.
unetunfontdeux 3 years ago
noob read the stock dynos s2k arent 240 whp stock learn the difference between bhp and whp
shinjitsu2 3 years ago 5
wow people fighting over the internet for cars hahahaha
i own a tC and im no girl ill pull it out for u.....
and nice to see a tC finally pull on something:]]
mrmuteaeh 3 years ago
internet fights woo hoo morons! anyways good video and close race . glad 2 c the tc win. would abeen nice to have more info on the mods done to both cars though. peace!
lolotrucker 3 years ago
sounds like s2k had either straight pipe, or at least I/H/E
SilviaSlider93 3 years ago
Looks to me like the S2K gave up. Not saying that the outcome would have been any different otherwise, but hey, a race is a race, and the tC won. Good job, tC.
kingdomboost 3 years ago
why are any of you talking shit you probably don't even own ether of those car
poob2k5 3 years ago
I have left a S2000 behind using an Toyota Tercel with a stock 2E with carburetor. It's not the car, It's the driver that counts.
zackant 3 years ago
Also on our island we have a lot a modified 4-cylinder Toyota cars that can out-run V8's.
We have to, cause here if the police catch you street-racing they will take your car away and crush it.
zackant 3 years ago
i still rather have a stock s2000 than any tc and anyone who says otherwise is a dumbass
alv4426 3 years ago
The S2K was yellow...
And still the S2K in a heartbeat. TC's are for high school girls.
deadflagbluesxxx 3 years ago
TC for girls? so is the Mustang and who drives them the most? males. so stfu about how tc is a girls car.
Fact on mustangs, Mustang is referred as to muscular horse, which was aimed for women when it FIRST was released but as time went, more males started to drive them and mod them due its performance.
jaysong87 3 years ago
No, that's where you're wrong. Only girls or femme guys drive TC's, guys who beat their girlfriends drive Mustangs. It's practically science. Somebody has to say it.
deadflagbluesxxx 3 years ago
trust me kid, mustangs were first developed to be aim at women, get ur facts straight.
And only girls or femme guys drive a tC and its pratically science?? da fuk uve been smokin lately. So if a girl driving a STi pulls up and smokes ur ass while ur in a mustang, that makes ur car a pussy cuz it cant win a girl? put some logical sense into kid.
jaysong87 3 years ago
First off, you're weird as fuck. I was never talking about Mustangs and don't know why you keep trying to convince me that Ford's focus was to sell mustangs to female buyers, because I could honestly not give a fuck less. Moot point, when we're talking about an ugly yellow S2K and how I would still choose that over the lame TC. In fact, I have no clue what the fuck you're talking about in general.
"Put some logical sense into kid."
Seriously?
deadflagbluesxxx 3 years ago
im using tangs as an example if u ever understood because u stated that tC's are a chicks car but it isnt and now ur talkin about ford focus?
jaysong87 3 years ago
There's an issue communicating with the mentally challenged and now I have experienced it for myself. What a retard.
deadflagbluesxxx 3 years ago
oh im sorry i thought u were a retard so i had to lower my sense to equal it with urs. oops?
jaysong87 3 years ago
That's so fucking funny he thought you were talking about a ford focus. "What a retard" is right lol. I heart youtube.
oziumzx 3 years ago
He said something about Ford's focus on something, not Ford's Focus. ROFLMAO
SilviaSlider93 3 years ago
What makes a man "manly"? And what makes man "femme", as you put it. I am a guy, and I am very interested in the Scion TC. I don't consider myself feminin. But take the Miata for example, just because a man doesn't want pure, brute power from a car, but rather quickness and agility, it does not make that man "unmanly" or weak.
Theshadowrazor 3 years ago 16
@Theshadowrazor Absolutely. I own a tC and I've loved every second of it, and I don't think anyone would walk up to me outside of internet land and call me feminine. At least it wouldn't be in their best interest. Don't let internet "billy badass"s get at you. Half of them are 16 year olds still driving their moms cars, and the other half are rednecks who hate anything other than domestics. The tC is a great car.
1465225568 10 months ago
The S200 handles better and stops better and is not slower than a boosted TC
MaddDogg81 3 years ago
haha tc's a bitch car. and hondas are for people buying there shit on a budget. thats one reply for calling the tc a bitch car.
lilaznsk8r23 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
how come when a scion owner always has to put a turbo in there car just for it to have a chance with a honda. like that queer said run what you brung so bring your gf stock tc and run a s2k , even a stock fit would win over a tc.
honda 4 life
whittier562 3 years ago
how come when a honda approaches any modified car, it always wants to run?
lilaznsk8r23 3 years ago
Too bad an s2000 that comes standard with an i-vtec engine(which at that point is obviously faster than a stock Tc) is worth well over 15k more than a Tc and when a Tc slaps on a 5k turbocharger with atleast 10psi pushing it over 280-300whp it then smashes on an s2000 annnnd that Tc owner is still waaay under what the s2000 owner has payed..
and NO, i dont hate Honda.. i just hate when you "honda 4 life" kids swear up and down the block that vtec is the best..
pancit7 3 years ago 3
i agree with you!!!
supercharge or put turbo to a nissan or a honda and you'll get a BEAST!!!
charjohnnie 3 years ago
and to that chucky guy you as well are also ignorant. aluminum blocks are used on many applications and have seen way more than 300whp unsleeved. but thats besides the point. NISSANS ARE BETTER ANYWAY
xstacygtr 3 years ago
really the tc is a girls car. and whoever said it is a 2.4 and a k20 is a 2.0 is just ignorant. you know NOTHING about cars go back to domestics. sorry to the fanboys but its kind of sad it needed a supercharger and nitrous to keep up with a stock s2k. the tc is a peice of shit. people only make 400with 22psi on a tc. that says how shitty the cars head flows. the car is made for a girl to go from point a to b and her friends to say its a cute car.
xstacygtr 3 years ago
the TC is a bitch's car! run a s2000 with a supercharger and see wuts up. you guys are hatin on the s cuz u cant afford one.
spoons2k01 3 years ago
tC is a chick car... i cant seem to keep the bitches from getting in the motha sucka.
heat7072 3 years ago
haha i fell you..
pancit7 3 years ago
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MaddDogg81 3 years ago
Yeah fucking right spend 3grand on a supercharger for scion and 3 grand on supercharged for the S and you KNOW the s will win
NutWarrior 3 years ago
well the s2000 costs a lot more than the tC even with the 3 grand for the supercharger. Anyway even with the supercharger the tC still has less horsepower
jarofomens 3 years ago
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MaddDogg81 3 years ago
You are right...it didn't los...it LOST.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago 3
tc is a chick's car! It's like buying a bug and adding a s/c!
mexrambo 3 years ago
Yeah, cause your chick would be looking at my ride as I rolled past and realize how much of a dumbass you are and hop in a tC.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
haha tc whooped that s2000's ass yes another pos honda
joshcazares 3 years ago
ok now lets put a supercharge to that honda and lets see who wins
vr4snake 3 years ago 2
Then we put a turbo on the tC and see who wins...that would continue to go on and on. It's run what you brung, go big or go home plain and simple.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
tats 1 reason y i dnt lyk honda, low torque, if it was from a dig, the s2k might have had him....MIGHT, but u decided to do the wrong thing and race prolly from lyk 20 or 30, thats when the tc pulls the best, sorry, & dont hate on the whole torque debate, think about it, whats the deff of torque....it is relevant when it comes to cars, so the more the better
gymotc 3 years ago
tc's a 2.4 people, it has better potential then the 2.0 vtec if both were mod'ed
jaysong87 3 years ago 3
to bad toyota no longer has any ge heads that put in their sportyier cars. somthing tells me that a 2.4 makes more tq then a 2.0 with short rod stroke.
rdyzz 3 years ago 2
the new tc supercharged puts out exactly 200whp i believe
shadowli87 3 years ago
wow that was shit on the s2k part was he even racing better yet i dont care about none of these cars!
john1120 3 years ago
had an s2k in pheonix and that shit was way better than the tc. have a tc now but if you build em both up i would prefer the honda.
BurninRbr 4 years ago
that s2k didnt even pull. A supercharged tc is about as fast as the new si.
manklee 4 years ago
yeah about being the keyword
Metalhead852 4 years ago
I hate to break it to the Honduh guys but yea this is the fact...
research about the scion tc and you'll realize how much more powerful it can get. If you don't like it, just leave it alone and go play with your toys.
sciondude69 3 years ago
who gives a fuck look how homo a scion looks and then look how sexy an s2k is theres no debate, in any type of race other then a straight line the s2000 would shine belive me
NutWarrior 3 years ago
oohhh I sell jealousy!
sciondude69 3 years ago
yeah, they're about as sexy as a miata. Faggot cars.
pheyn0m 3 years ago
These 2 cars are in completely different levels. stock for stock, S2K wins, and even worse, see an s2k on the track. my friend owns a TC and admits handling sucks. also with no torque, the s2k makes up for its light weight which is why it gets 0-60 in under 6 sec. no replacement for displacement 2.0 L vs 2.4 L.
DiabloVV2002 4 years ago
lol, the Xb kills us Tc's on the track. LOL, kinda funny. We're like VW's, we dont just dont turn...
atabist 4 years ago
any racer would know, let alone smart driver would not speed with that many cars around.
the s2k could take the tc, yet if it has the S/C and Nos then its a horse of a different color.
seeing thou the s2k puts out roughly 240hp+ and a tC SC'ed puts out 200hp+ would be a waste of time, though nice tc.
FuelExE 4 years ago
tc puts out around 160 hp...not 200
jonbar87 4 years ago
i wrote a SC'ed tc.... at the crank 200, maybe a lil less whp through the gears. but yes bone stock is 160
FuelExE 4 years ago
163-164hp for 07+. lol, like the couple horses make a dif. lol.
atabist 4 years ago
yea but adding a supercharger on a tC adds a solid 40whp, and u can do plenty of things to get more boost out of the supercharger.
BallerFMtC 3 years ago
i would only use nitrous if i wasa racing for pinks or a large amount of money. other then that race n/a and see who is the better driver to prove yourself
77z05tc 4 years ago
Nitrous is not cheating, is just another way to gain horsepower...
chelotun 4 years ago
well technically it is. you're making the car go faster with a spray, the car isnt doing it by itself and mods. it's like strapping a rocket to it...it WILL be faster, but it really isnt.
karmahunden 4 years ago
it will be faster, but it really isnt....genious.
nitrous is a mod like anything else. just like if i tuned my car on e85 i could boost all night without problems, but all i did was swap injectors and use different fuel.
henryduncan 4 years ago
I would like to see you running on autox with nitrous. Let's see how far you can go before your bottle runs out and you become slower like you really would be.
karmahunden 4 years ago
you can always put a bigger bottle on.
I could use it to spool my turbo and get to the first turn before you :p
henryduncan 4 years ago
For that you use methanol injection. Everyone knows that's the best for turbo'd cars to kill lag.
If you drive a turbo'd scion tC i dont think that would help you much on the straightaway against me anyways. ;)
karmahunden 4 years ago
yeah ok, i'm sure that's why turbo drag cars always seem to be nitrous at launch.
Meth or water injection just decreases detonation and allows for more boost, which will increase spool but only becasue your wastegate isn't opening as early.
henryduncan 4 years ago
maybe v6+ turbo'd cars. The AMS evo doesnt use nitrous to run single digits.
karmahunden 4 years ago
correct. its like adding turbo to ur car
dodobird116 4 years ago
meh ... nitrous is cheating
nayil100 4 years ago
s200 got shitted on
dis1pnoy 4 years ago
ummmmmm...... I forgot to mention, the TC was running on nitrous in addition to the supercharger. Sorry for all those Toyota lovers.
chelotun 4 years ago
haha i kinda knew that since the s2000 shouldve taken it easily
djblazedx 4 years ago
Toyotas kicks ass!
Georgenfla 4 years ago
oh snap the tc won, was that the trd supercharger?
gixxer450 4 years ago
A Toyota product smokes another Honda lawn mower!!! Yeah, Toyota #1!
Georgenfla 4 years ago
Honda and Toyota make very good cars. Very reliable engines. All cars are different, some have thier pros and cons. Who cares though? It depends which car suits you best. =D
chucky245 4 years ago 2
well tushu, of course the S2K would prolly get better times because of a little thing called RWD. yea, and most street racing is straight line because you cant just go down to a track and say let me run here.
702jdmek9 4 years ago
ahhaha you guys are funny.. most of you guys only think about the straight.... but what about on track even with the tc being supercharged s2000 will still get better lap times
tushusoslwr1 4 years ago
andrewn 721 Your a idiot , Let do that work on a s2000, that t.c would get beat like a red headed step child, Have you ever seen a R 3000, a six cylinder gone type R ? that S2k comes like that from the dealer Lets turbo charge or supercharge it what ever is best for that engine, then lets see who gets whipped!
lopez353535 4 years ago
ok dont call someone an idiot if you dont know correct grammar. ok now go get an s2000 and supercharge/turbo charge it and tell me how much money you spent. if a 18,000 car with a 3k kit can either beat or come even close to a stock 34,000 dollar car, its worth it. if you have to upgrade an expensive car like that just to beat a tC then you suck at life.
andrewn721 4 years ago
The S2K didn't even race. The s2k got the jump then something happened and it kept at the same speed while the tc did a rice flyby.
Get your facts straight, S2000 > tC.
Even the new Civic Si with intake beats a supercharged tC.
ChristianM17 4 years ago
for the tc it's not "just a 3k kit" you're looking more at 7-10k for a quality turbo and clutch, brakes, lsd, tuning, management etc etc
you can find a solid used s2k for around 16-20 and i'd rather take that. in fact i just got rid of my tc and it looks like s2k is next on the plate :) and yes the guy above you makes a good point that the fwd tc is useless on the track. much love to the old tc but the s2k looked like he let off in the video
ashivatc 4 years ago
Sorry but torque`LESS honda`s or acura`s or i need sleeves to get over 300hp becouse my aluminum block is to weak will beat an iron block toyota THAT IS TUNED FOR RACING !!!! my car beats v-garbage all day on TORQUE ALONE. i even own a honda my wife drives it wont see me in it.
chucky245 4 years ago
2az-fe is an aluminum block.
apokalftw1 4 years ago
Sorry but torque`LESS honda`s or acura`s or i need sleeves to get over 300hp becouse my aluminum block is to weak will beat an iron block toyota THAT IS TUNED FOR RACING !!!! my car beats v-garbage all day on TORQUE ALONE. i evan own a honda my wife drives it wont see me in it.
pnyk33 4 years ago
In our family, I've got an S2000 and my brother's have tC's. I like both cars respectively, but I have to agree with the fact that (without knowing what the S2K/tC had) the S2000 should not have lost. I've beaten a supercharged tC no problem when all I had was intake and headers.
sbaiani 4 years ago