a tip I'd wish to give to the viewers of this video:
Elmer's Rubber Cement is a great preventative buff to put over a weak cone/suspension.
If the hole is too big, I sometimes use paper towel dipped in rubber cement to patch it up.
Sure, it adds a little extra mechanical resistance to the speaker, but I can't hear a difference nor have I ever damaged a voice-coil by making it too restrictive.
Ok stupid questions. Does the surrounds on the speaker have any effect on the sound quality? I am trying to repair an old 1991 sony ss-tl1 speaker and the surround foams on the sub woofer are gone. The bass without the surround foam is very lacking. Will it change once I add the surrounds? Or did i ruin the sub woofer when I used it without the surrounds
@abekim7 The surround is especially important for bass response with sealed-box configurations. The reason is that the pressure wave from the back of the cone can leak around through the broken surround and cancel the wave coming off the front of the cone. The amount of bass degradation will depend on how the speaker cabinet was originally designed, but having a blown surround will usually hurt sound quality quite a lot -- especially bass notes. Good luck!
@bkraz333 thx very helpful. Btw since its old should i even bother paying $20 to fix it? The tweeters seem to be working fine. Not sure about the bass though. I don't want to fix something that can't be fixed to begin with. Or it could be like you said the surrounds are having a huge affect on the bass since its not even on the driver
any tips for re-attaching a gasket? somehow the kid i bought my subs from blew them off, and he was underpowering the subs. they're alpine type e's, but i think they were just initially poorly adhesed, but i don't know
@Mattystew17 If the gasket is being used for that particular speaker mounting setup, it will be pinched between the metal speaker basket and the speaker box. This means that the adhesive will not be under much stress, and the type of glue will not matter much. I'd use surround glue, which is probably just Elmer's white glue.
@Ricardo1e93 I believe that part of the speaker is called the "spider". Replacing it should be possible, but it's very unusual that it needs to be replaced. You'll have to be sure the alignment is very good to prevent the coil from rubbing on the pole piece.
hey i have a JL Audio 13W7 and the speaker was sitting at my garage and it got wet inside of the speaker, but with them time it dried itself. You think being that the inside being wet before will affect the speaker if i repair the rubber??
@millenia007 If there is any rust inside the pole piece, it could rub against the coil, and cause you major problems. If the speaker feels normal when you push the cone by hand (don't hear any scratching, etc), you should probably be OK.
to let any dumb ass know the only reason you would need to o this is if you mis treatt you speakesr if you take care of them they shoudl last a long ass time and never have to do this unless they are liek 30 years old and foam surround in that case just replace anyways becuase years from then you will just have to anyways and it coudl cause damage to the coil as it becomes worn
@PAKIZFOLYFE786 I am not sure. Your best bet is to replace the entire surround, since a repair would probably not last very long, and replacing the surround is not too difficult or expensive.
@wojtek3016 One option would be to do nothing. If the speaker is fairly low-power and mounted in free-air or a ported box, there will not be much air pressure behind the cone. If the speaker handles high cone excursion and is mounted in a sealed box, you may want to put some high quality tape (like gaffer's tape) on the hole. Depending on the cone material, you could also glue some heavy paper over the hole. Good luck
@bkraz333 thank you so much. For now I have put some low quality cellotape on te back but I don't know if its a good Idea. The speaker (Peerless HDS-164PPB PPB diaphragm, 33 mm) sits inside a ported box. I am making it as a project for school.
i have a tip for you, when you buy a new speaker, rub baseball glove oil on the surround and it will stay soft and fresh for a long time, longer than normal
the best way to repair the speakers is removing the dust cap so that it is centered perfect. you take the dust cap and put shims in the middle so that it centers right. if it is off a little the coil will rub and this will result in damaging the speaker and it will no longer work. i highly recommened this for higher end speakers, such as the jl audio w6v1 which is what i did.
I found out you could use "Aileen's tacky glue" from Walmart, which is a thicker glue (than elmers). This glue is more sticky than elmers & useful for binding different fabrics, wood, or plastics.
Great work. We want to hear that bass bump
logos2600 1 week ago
a tip I'd wish to give to the viewers of this video:
Elmer's Rubber Cement is a great preventative buff to put over a weak cone/suspension.
If the hole is too big, I sometimes use paper towel dipped in rubber cement to patch it up.
Sure, it adds a little extra mechanical resistance to the speaker, but I can't hear a difference nor have I ever damaged a voice-coil by making it too restrictive.
And like always, thanks for the great videos
thedudeman9000 3 weeks ago
Ok stupid questions. Does the surrounds on the speaker have any effect on the sound quality? I am trying to repair an old 1991 sony ss-tl1 speaker and the surround foams on the sub woofer are gone. The bass without the surround foam is very lacking. Will it change once I add the surrounds? Or did i ruin the sub woofer when I used it without the surrounds
abekim7 2 months ago
@abekim7 The surround is especially important for bass response with sealed-box configurations. The reason is that the pressure wave from the back of the cone can leak around through the broken surround and cancel the wave coming off the front of the cone. The amount of bass degradation will depend on how the speaker cabinet was originally designed, but having a blown surround will usually hurt sound quality quite a lot -- especially bass notes. Good luck!
bkraz333 2 months ago
@bkraz333 thx very helpful. Btw since its old should i even bother paying $20 to fix it? The tweeters seem to be working fine. Not sure about the bass though. I don't want to fix something that can't be fixed to begin with. Or it could be like you said the surrounds are having a huge affect on the bass since its not even on the driver
abekim7 2 months ago
Dont Sound To Excited.
TrueSnipinq2011 4 months ago
Just did my first re-foam. Cerwin Vega D-3's. The trick is to TAKE YOU'RE TIME AND DON'T RUSH! Can you tell me who the background music is from?
Edward681 5 months ago
@Edward681 The song is One Less Worry by Dennis Chambers and Niacin. It's off the Drum Nation Volume Two album.
bkraz333 5 months ago
I need a large caliper in my garage :/
chinesemonk 6 months ago
Thanks for the video. Wondering who the back ground music is. Sounds cool!!
foolishjerk 6 months ago
i love the idea at 4:26
computergeekonshow 7 months ago
any tips for re-attaching a gasket? somehow the kid i bought my subs from blew them off, and he was underpowering the subs. they're alpine type e's, but i think they were just initially poorly adhesed, but i don't know
Mattystew17 9 months ago
@Mattystew17 If the gasket is being used for that particular speaker mounting setup, it will be pinched between the metal speaker basket and the speaker box. This means that the adhesive will not be under much stress, and the type of glue will not matter much. I'd use surround glue, which is probably just Elmer's white glue.
bkraz333 9 months ago
@Ricardo1e93 I believe that part of the speaker is called the "spider". Replacing it should be possible, but it's very unusual that it needs to be replaced. You'll have to be sure the alignment is very good to prevent the coil from rubbing on the pole piece.
bkraz333 10 months ago
hey i have a JL Audio 13W7 and the speaker was sitting at my garage and it got wet inside of the speaker, but with them time it dried itself. You think being that the inside being wet before will affect the speaker if i repair the rubber??
millenia007 11 months ago
@millenia007 If there is any rust inside the pole piece, it could rub against the coil, and cause you major problems. If the speaker feels normal when you push the cone by hand (don't hear any scratching, etc), you should probably be OK.
bkraz333 11 months ago
@bkraz333 what happens if you do hear scratching? or its rough
Mattystew17 10 months ago
@Mattystew17 If the coil is rubbing on the pole piece, you may have to remove the surround and start over. I don't see any other way to fix it.
bkraz333 10 months ago
to let any dumb ass know the only reason you would need to o this is if you mis treatt you speakesr if you take care of them they shoudl last a long ass time and never have to do this unless they are liek 30 years old and foam surround in that case just replace anyways becuase years from then you will just have to anyways and it coudl cause damage to the coil as it becomes worn
BassPounderX 11 months ago
nice video. thanks
bkraz333 can you please tell me if i can use any repair kit to fix the cuts on my subs ? please let me know. Thanks
PAKIZFOLYFE786 11 months ago
@PAKIZFOLYFE786 I am not sure. Your best bet is to replace the entire surround, since a repair would probably not last very long, and replacing the surround is not too difficult or expensive.
bkraz333 11 months ago
hi I have poked a hole in my speaker today. its more like tear. its about 5 mm long. The speaker cost me 50 Euro. Can you tell me how to repair it?
wojtek3016 1 year ago
@wojtek3016 One option would be to do nothing. If the speaker is fairly low-power and mounted in free-air or a ported box, there will not be much air pressure behind the cone. If the speaker handles high cone excursion and is mounted in a sealed box, you may want to put some high quality tape (like gaffer's tape) on the hole. Depending on the cone material, you could also glue some heavy paper over the hole. Good luck
bkraz333 1 year ago
@bkraz333 thank you so much. For now I have put some low quality cellotape on te back but I don't know if its a good Idea. The speaker (Peerless HDS-164PPB PPB diaphragm, 33 mm) sits inside a ported box. I am making it as a project for school.
wojtek3016 1 year ago
what is that liquid did you use to clean/rub the old foam off the speaker?
kukine 1 year ago
@kukine I used acetone. The woofer cone is polypropylene, and the speaker basket is metal -- both of which can tolerate the acetone.
bkraz333 1 year ago
i have a tip for you, when you buy a new speaker, rub baseball glove oil on the surround and it will stay soft and fresh for a long time, longer than normal
c0uchsl0uch 1 year ago
the best way to repair the speakers is removing the dust cap so that it is centered perfect. you take the dust cap and put shims in the middle so that it centers right. if it is off a little the coil will rub and this will result in damaging the speaker and it will no longer work. i highly recommened this for higher end speakers, such as the jl audio w6v1 which is what i did.
csamperio71 1 year ago
does anyone know where i can get square foam rings?
Haskeo 1 year ago
how much did it cost?
GladiatorGage 1 year ago
@GladiatorGage Check the video description. I can't post a URL in the comments. I think my kit was about $15.
bkraz333 1 year ago
@bkraz333 THANKS AGAIN!
GladiatorGage 1 year ago
what is the white liquid called that u put to glue the foam cuz i need some for my speakers thankx
unstopable172 1 year ago
@unstopable172 The glue came with the speaker repair kit. I think it may be standard Elmer's white glue.
bkraz333 1 year ago
@unstopable172
I found out you could use "Aileen's tacky glue" from Walmart, which is a thicker glue (than elmers). This glue is more sticky than elmers & useful for binding different fabrics, wood, or plastics.
abcdq2 1 year ago
nice.. but the music is annoying...
alt1962 1 year ago