i have the 5800 and the issue with mine was that the counter belt caused the unit not to rewind to well also it has issues fast forwarding when it gets to the end of the side. i also have an issue with noise coming off the audio rather then the actual tape sound. also i found mine with the wired remote which is rare. i also have a front loader hi-fi that i need to fix as well. oh what to do what to do. i do have a working sears/sanyo betamax that works that i do use that does work
My dad bought this after we went around asking for machines to buy, to decide Beta or VHS. When Live Aid rolled around, I was unable to record but we did have this machine and a Sony Trinitron TV. I was accused of wearing it out, eventually, As with all my dad's gear that I was fascinated into using, like his top loading TEAC cassette as well. We built up our library of Beta cassettes with this machine, and wow, a wired remote to boot!!
that's a '65 TV? Wow that's pretty badass imo for something that was made in '65. It was obviously EXPENSIVE back then too. The Betamax was too though.
You are right that the Beta unit is from 1980 since I own one myself. It plays tapes just fine but the only problem is the rewind button which for some reason the gears that do the rewind is either rusted or just doesn't work. I happen to have the CORDED remote control for it as well. Sadly there is this high pitch squeaking that just won't go away unless tapping on the player from the side. I tried cleaning to the best to my knowledge and unfortunately even the sound tends to come and go.
Is that TV one with the old tube screen or is that an LCD screen? My grandfather said SOny made the 1st LCD thin screen in 1975 and that's what Trinitron means.
i happen to have found the 5800 model of this and i know the counter belt needs replaced cause it has issues rewinding and fast forwarding at tape and will play a tape just has audio playback issues otherwise it works. mine i found with the remote which is rare i would just like to be able to get it worked on sometime.
I have this same one but ever single time it ejects, it doesn't take the tape back in the cassette so it "eats it up." I couldn't seem to find any part to turn it while ejecting. Do you have any ideas?
@CassetteMaster It seems like there should be a sensor which should detect when the tape is completely put back in the cassette before it ejects...like on the U-Matic when the "wait" indicator lights. It seems like it must be skipping a step in the cycle by not returning the tape to the cassette before ejecting....I'm sorry but I can't say from experience exactly what it would be though. I do have about 7 other of these machines so I will have to see if the other ones are exhibiting the problem.
Had the same issue with my SL-5400 ended up finding the problem, was the gear that thread the tape has two gear one that on the bottom of the deck that connect the motor and there a presssure spring that pushs on the top gear that spins the tape threading gear, what happens is the lithium grease dry up causing lack of pressure, so the bottom gear spin freely but not the top and sometime it's catch and will thread the tape but not unthread right or all the way.
@DrMR2002 Ours had one of the main motors go out, that's all I knew at the time, could have been capston I guess. The 5600 had those VERY archaic tuners you manually dialed in each channel...that was horrible!
To take that gear out and add new lithium grease, you have to remove the head pre-amp, unscrew and move the voltage regulator that located right by that gear, unscrew the bracket, there three screws holding it in place, then unclip the side circuit board and just push it in a little and take the two screws that hold that gear assembly in placed. Unit works correctly, but will take it back apart to change the capacitors and to clean relube the whole transport, will post a video
Moving parts, moving parts - that is what kills most electronic equipment. I am looking for a VCR with no tape or DVD recorders built in, but in stead a hard drive or preferably a flash drive or memory sticks. It boils down to a VCR with no moving parts. Any suggestions?
@oomblikkies Well...VCR means Video Cassette Recorder thus it involves a cassette which involves moving parts. They make video cameras now with hard drives inside of them and of course there is Tivo. The only other solution would be to get a TV Tuner card for your computer and transfer your VHS tapes to DVD format then burn your own dvd's.
Thanks storrs - I am sick and tired of all those moving parts in a VCR )together with the tape). I just felt that it should not be too difficult to throw out all the moving parts and replace them with much more durable stuff like memory sticks, flash drives, etc
Unfortunately hard disks also have moving parts (the disks and the heads). Flash drives do not have moving parts, but they also have also limited lifespan (usually 100K cycles)
Do either of these devices have remote controls? It's interesting to note that the transport controls on this VCR are like the controls you'd find on a standard cassette recorder.
Very nice machine! I was in a second-hand thrift store a few months ago, and for 50 cents there was a never used, still in the plastic, Sony Betamax cassette. I shoulda grabbed it, even though I don't have a Betamax VCR. lol
God that's beautiful. I would say it must be 1980 as well with the digital display and lack of knobs. However, I recently found a purchased a Panasonic VHS with knobs and digital display clock, which puzzles me.
This video was like crack for me :) Love these machines.
Sony was a really good brand, but they dissapointed me to many, at least $2000 in some minidisc recorders and 2 walkmans i bought between 1999 and 2004. all this electronics crashed and i take care of my stuff. But a 1983 Sony stereo is working perfectly, it was bought the same year i was born and all it have been changed is the power cord cos an accident. Panasonic in the other hand is better all my matsushita electronics are working like new.
Alot of today's Sony products are rebrands, of stuff from companies like Funai or Tatung. It's entirely possible to go to your local electronics store and buy a pretty similiar producy under a Sony badge and a store brand. What they actually do design is stil made in Chinese factories unless you drop good money on it.
Also, post-1985 plastic Walkmen seem to have a lifespan of about three months, no matter who makes them. Oh well.
Yes!!! I think I just remember the Sony Betamax VCR SL-5600. When I was a Teenager My High School has a betamax VCR EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ONE ON THE VIDEO. The High School also have Sony KV 1913 (2X).
Anyway, I also have a Sony Betamax just like the one which is on the video, BUT IT IS SL 5800.
I see the clock does the Sony gimmick where it blinks the top dot of the colon for the first half of the minute and the bottom dot for the second half of the minute. They were still using this feature on their products well into the late '90s, if not even still today!
hey i know what your talkin about with the clock blinking i have a sony vcr sv160 and it does that gimmick with the clock before i had the remote to set it the clock would blink and drive me nuts im sure you know what that is like
In the fall of 1980 the all the TV's came out with offically advirtising "cbl rdy" tv sets,most advirtised 35 chs capablity,which was alot back then as most systems were about 20 chs,and some were still 12 channels,prior to 1980 you could fine tune behind Ch 7 and get Cable chs 14-21,which were called Mid-Band Chs if the TV had a electronic tuner and not a "knob" to turn the tv chs,If there were any cbl rdy models b4 1980,the media blitz pushing cbl rdy tv sets began in the fall of 1980.....
hey man i see the old national receiver in the base of your betamax, he still works?i got one like this in perfect working condictions, man if you receiver are working you are a lucky man,its the best of national receivers NATIONAL NC-185, about the video betamax i get a sony betamax model SL-8600,my dad bought in 1978,the channel selectors are mechanical, the digital are only the clock, the video still works...
Your LUCKY! I have the same Betamax machine, but some problems: I have to help the tape load by turning the big wheel that loads the tape (I give it a push and it loads). Then play , FF, REW, and those work, but the picture sometimes has horizontal static-like lines go up the screen seemingly corresponding with the fluttery sound it has, tracking control helps a little on the lines and they went away for a while on one tape. SEE MORE IN REPLY COMMENT::
Also, when I eject, the big wheel turns back as normal, but the tape isn't taking back in the cassette and it therefore "eats" the tape on eject. Then on RECORD, it will record video with very weak, seeming unbiased audio. In AUDIO DUB mode, it records audio fine (fluttery speed) and keeps the old unerased video already on the tape. I can never get the audio and video recorded normally at once. Do you have any tips to help me please? Thanks.
hey great beta video but some freindly advice you should remove those tapes off the top of your tv cause of the magnetic feild because it can damage them over a period of time ive had to replace a few cause i did that my self once. but really great vid love old video tape stuff
Old Sony stuff is so nostalgic. I remember the Betamax launch in the Sony Centre in Regent Street, London. I think all they had to play on it was a Blondie music video.
I like that TV and VCR. Growing up we had a similar TV & VCR [but the VCR was VHS, and the TV had a different tuning control... it had a long vertical row of little push-buttons.
Early '80s TVs and VCRs really take me back to my childhood. that's why I now own and use 2 early '80s TV sets!
How much are those worth today?
peugteobike 1 month ago
i have the 5800 and the issue with mine was that the counter belt caused the unit not to rewind to well also it has issues fast forwarding when it gets to the end of the side. i also have an issue with noise coming off the audio rather then the actual tape sound. also i found mine with the wired remote which is rare. i also have a front loader hi-fi that i need to fix as well. oh what to do what to do. i do have a working sears/sanyo betamax that works that i do use that does work
rmx77 6 months ago
My dad bought this after we went around asking for machines to buy, to decide Beta or VHS. When Live Aid rolled around, I was unable to record but we did have this machine and a Sony Trinitron TV. I was accused of wearing it out, eventually, As with all my dad's gear that I was fascinated into using, like his top loading TEAC cassette as well. We built up our library of Beta cassettes with this machine, and wow, a wired remote to boot!!
MetallicBill 1 year ago
that's a '65 TV? Wow that's pretty badass imo for something that was made in '65. It was obviously EXPENSIVE back then too. The Betamax was too though.
motrojam 1 year ago
Old Sony VCR and old TV
LiviuJETIX 1 year ago
You are right that the Beta unit is from 1980 since I own one myself. It plays tapes just fine but the only problem is the rewind button which for some reason the gears that do the rewind is either rusted or just doesn't work. I happen to have the CORDED remote control for it as well. Sadly there is this high pitch squeaking that just won't go away unless tapping on the player from the side. I tried cleaning to the best to my knowledge and unfortunately even the sound tends to come and go.
Isinia1979 1 year ago
Is that TV one with the old tube screen or is that an LCD screen? My grandfather said SOny made the 1st LCD thin screen in 1975 and that's what Trinitron means.
ShitFromShinolla 1 year ago
i happen to have found the 5800 model of this and i know the counter belt needs replaced cause it has issues rewinding and fast forwarding at tape and will play a tape just has audio playback issues otherwise it works. mine i found with the remote which is rare i would just like to be able to get it worked on sometime.
rmx77 1 year ago
I have this same one but ever single time it ejects, it doesn't take the tape back in the cassette so it "eats it up." I couldn't seem to find any part to turn it while ejecting. Do you have any ideas?
CassetteMaster 1 year ago
@CassetteMaster It seems like there should be a sensor which should detect when the tape is completely put back in the cassette before it ejects...like on the U-Matic when the "wait" indicator lights. It seems like it must be skipping a step in the cycle by not returning the tape to the cassette before ejecting....I'm sorry but I can't say from experience exactly what it would be though. I do have about 7 other of these machines so I will have to see if the other ones are exhibiting the problem.
retrochad 1 year ago 2
@CassetteMaster
Had the same issue with my SL-5400 ended up finding the problem, was the gear that thread the tape has two gear one that on the bottom of the deck that connect the motor and there a presssure spring that pushs on the top gear that spins the tape threading gear, what happens is the lithium grease dry up causing lack of pressure, so the bottom gear spin freely but not the top and sometime it's catch and will thread the tape but not unthread right or all the way.
DrMR2002 1 year ago
@DrMR2002 Ours had one of the main motors go out, that's all I knew at the time, could have been capston I guess. The 5600 had those VERY archaic tuners you manually dialed in each channel...that was horrible!
MetallicBill 1 year ago
@CassetteMaster
To take that gear out and add new lithium grease, you have to remove the head pre-amp, unscrew and move the voltage regulator that located right by that gear, unscrew the bracket, there three screws holding it in place, then unclip the side circuit board and just push it in a little and take the two screws that hold that gear assembly in placed. Unit works correctly, but will take it back apart to change the capacitors and to clean relube the whole transport, will post a video
DrMR2002 1 year ago
I bought that KV-1965 TV when it was new for the audio/video inputs but the red gun in the crt died just out of warranty.
I ended up stripping it for parts.
Anderskh 1 year ago
Just get a PS3!!
szor1 1 year ago
Moving parts, moving parts - that is what kills most electronic equipment. I am looking for a VCR with no tape or DVD recorders built in, but in stead a hard drive or preferably a flash drive or memory sticks. It boils down to a VCR with no moving parts. Any suggestions?
oomblikkies 2 years ago
@oomblikkies Well...VCR means Video Cassette Recorder thus it involves a cassette which involves moving parts. They make video cameras now with hard drives inside of them and of course there is Tivo. The only other solution would be to get a TV Tuner card for your computer and transfer your VHS tapes to DVD format then burn your own dvd's.
storrs19 1 year ago
Thanks storrs - I am sick and tired of all those moving parts in a VCR )together with the tape). I just felt that it should not be too difficult to throw out all the moving parts and replace them with much more durable stuff like memory sticks, flash drives, etc
oomblikkies 1 year ago
Unfortunately hard disks also have moving parts (the disks and the heads). Flash drives do not have moving parts, but they also have also limited lifespan (usually 100K cycles)
teles333 1 year ago
ROFL
drjw7 2 years ago
lol Sonys never changed their logo
diegodaudt 2 years ago
wow
mybetamax1 2 years ago
im guessing blu ray is a no go then ??
TheIndegoplex 2 years ago
course my horse, it was balled the blu-beta, released in 1982.
sxephlI 2 years ago
Hay retrochad
I was just wondering where you got that beta hi fi demonstration tape?
rottenapples3 2 years ago
I connected my slim-line betamax which is Hi-Fi (pal Model)To my Sony 46inch Bravia And the picture was good even the movie tape was 24yrs old too.
910364 2 years ago
I would Like To Meet You Someday
rottenapples3 2 years ago
Awesome video. Keep on with that good work!
mig189189189 2 years ago
bate max reminds me of VHS -C
PinkSilverWolf 2 years ago
looks amazing..i collect Sony-Pioneer VCR-VHS_BETA , LD_DVD and Trinitron -Loewe CRT's and they re all incredible and working with amazing quality
philosoma9 2 years ago
What kind of camera are you useing?
Gmancrap 2 years ago
I also wants to know... The noise at the beginning shows that it is analog
TheNewFormula 2 years ago
sony tv's always looked much more modern than tv's from the same time
Swi2ler 2 years ago
sony products are the best
DOUGLASURSODOURADO 2 years ago 5
@DOUGLASURSODOURADO
Not always.
Sismiques 2 months ago
i like them both very cool
ottlmr 2 years ago
Do either of these devices have remote controls? It's interesting to note that the transport controls on this VCR are like the controls you'd find on a standard cassette recorder.
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
Very nice machine! I was in a second-hand thrift store a few months ago, and for 50 cents there was a never used, still in the plastic, Sony Betamax cassette. I shoulda grabbed it, even though I don't have a Betamax VCR. lol
themaritimeman 2 years ago
Don't store your tape around a TV !!
CLS2086 2 years ago
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now THAT won't survive the digtal TV transition.... :D
realgangsta45 2 years ago
Why wouldn't it? Connect a DTV converter on channel 3 or 4 (or via the A/V inputs); you're all set!
Madness832 2 years ago
nice vcr. i have the sl-5800 "TIME COMMANDER" lol same case as yours just has variable beta scan.
phantom3rdchannel 3 years ago
God that's beautiful. I would say it must be 1980 as well with the digital display and lack of knobs. However, I recently found a purchased a Panasonic VHS with knobs and digital display clock, which puzzles me.
This video was like crack for me :) Love these machines.
johnreagannumber1 3 years ago 4
Sony was a really good brand, but they dissapointed me to many, at least $2000 in some minidisc recorders and 2 walkmans i bought between 1999 and 2004. all this electronics crashed and i take care of my stuff. But a 1983 Sony stereo is working perfectly, it was bought the same year i was born and all it have been changed is the power cord cos an accident. Panasonic in the other hand is better all my matsushita electronics are working like new.
darkalligator 3 years ago
Alot of today's Sony products are rebrands, of stuff from companies like Funai or Tatung. It's entirely possible to go to your local electronics store and buy a pretty similiar producy under a Sony badge and a store brand. What they actually do design is stil made in Chinese factories unless you drop good money on it.
Also, post-1985 plastic Walkmen seem to have a lifespan of about three months, no matter who makes them. Oh well.
Manimal347 3 years ago
Well, I have in my possesion 3 vintage sony walkmans and they all work perfectly to this day and were all made in the late 80's threw the the 90's.
mitterling2 3 years ago
Yes!!! I think I just remember the Sony Betamax VCR SL-5600. When I was a Teenager My High School has a betamax VCR EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ONE ON THE VIDEO. The High School also have Sony KV 1913 (2X).
Anyway, I also have a Sony Betamax just like the one which is on the video, BUT IT IS SL 5800.
632838 3 years ago
this betamax was pretty high tech for 1980 standards.....
pcimin00 3 years ago
I see the clock does the Sony gimmick where it blinks the top dot of the colon for the first half of the minute and the bottom dot for the second half of the minute. They were still using this feature on their products well into the late '90s, if not even still today!
vwestlife 3 years ago
hey i know what your talkin about with the clock blinking i have a sony vcr sv160 and it does that gimmick with the clock before i had the remote to set it the clock would blink and drive me nuts im sure you know what that is like
stpworld 3 years ago
I have a Sony SLV-625UB S-VHS recorder that does this and it is in my bedroom and at night it is very very irritating!
microsoftiscrap 3 years ago
does anyone know when the first cable ready tv was made and who made it
stereomann83 3 years ago
In the fall of 1980 the all the TV's came out with offically advirtising "cbl rdy" tv sets,most advirtised 35 chs capablity,which was alot back then as most systems were about 20 chs,and some were still 12 channels,prior to 1980 you could fine tune behind Ch 7 and get Cable chs 14-21,which were called Mid-Band Chs if the TV had a electronic tuner and not a "knob" to turn the tv chs,If there were any cbl rdy models b4 1980,the media blitz pushing cbl rdy tv sets began in the fall of 1980.....
pcimin00 3 years ago
hey man i see the old national receiver in the base of your betamax, he still works?i got one like this in perfect working condictions, man if you receiver are working you are a lucky man,its the best of national receivers NATIONAL NC-185, about the video betamax i get a sony betamax model SL-8600,my dad bought in 1978,the channel selectors are mechanical, the digital are only the clock, the video still works...
guimbadriver 3 years ago
Your LUCKY! I have the same Betamax machine, but some problems: I have to help the tape load by turning the big wheel that loads the tape (I give it a push and it loads). Then play , FF, REW, and those work, but the picture sometimes has horizontal static-like lines go up the screen seemingly corresponding with the fluttery sound it has, tracking control helps a little on the lines and they went away for a while on one tape. SEE MORE IN REPLY COMMENT::
CassetteMaster 3 years ago
Also, when I eject, the big wheel turns back as normal, but the tape isn't taking back in the cassette and it therefore "eats" the tape on eject. Then on RECORD, it will record video with very weak, seeming unbiased audio. In AUDIO DUB mode, it records audio fine (fluttery speed) and keeps the old unerased video already on the tape. I can never get the audio and video recorded normally at once. Do you have any tips to help me please? Thanks.
CassetteMaster 3 years ago
i love old tv sets especially the little ones its sad they are turning off analog signals
rep0eagle 3 years ago
I had that same TV But the Picture started to get Darker . But it was good to watch at Nigh Time . and beta max was nicer then VHS
Biggie1231 3 years ago
Beautiful Trinitron TV. I have a similar TV set. The betamax is a beautiful set.
hcalderonmeister 3 years ago
Beautiful Beta and TV! I had one of those Trinitron when I was a little kid. I'd really like to have one of those Beta machines now!
Boborato2000 3 years ago
I just noticed that your voice sounds alot like Cleveland Brown from family guy.
rarerequest 3 years ago
hey great beta video but some freindly advice you should remove those tapes off the top of your tv cause of the magnetic feild because it can damage them over a period of time ive had to replace a few cause i did that my self once. but really great vid love old video tape stuff
stpworld 3 years ago
Old Sony stuff is so nostalgic. I remember the Betamax launch in the Sony Centre in Regent Street, London. I think all they had to play on it was a Blondie music video.
philt666 3 years ago
Yo, Chad I have a TV just like that! The audio is busted but I have that running from my DVD/VCR to my DIY tube stereo.
kingneb123 3 years ago
Yes, this Beta is indeed from 1980. MSRP was $1350.
From the Ultimate Betamax Info Guide: "Improved SL-5400, introducing 14-day 4-event programming, electronic indexing (called "Tab Marker System"), and 10-minute battery back-up."
I love those piano keys. I don't have any like that yet. The oldest Beta I have is a 1981 SL-5000 (the first frontloader.)
speedyc395 3 years ago
I like that TV and VCR. Growing up we had a similar TV & VCR [but the VCR was VHS, and the TV had a different tuning control... it had a long vertical row of little push-buttons.
Early '80s TVs and VCRs really take me back to my childhood. that's why I now own and use 2 early '80s TV sets!
wilkes85 3 years ago
I think I have one of the Sony Trinitron sets that is exactly like you describe (with a row of push buttons). This I think is a slightly later model.
retrochad 3 years ago
is it by any chance a sony kv-1913?
me748 3 years ago
i was takling about the tv wilkes85 describes
me748 3 years ago