The Purpose-Guided Universe: Believing in Einstein, Darwin and God

[coldarc]

the universe millions of tiny and big machines. operator needed for machine to function properly. operator being a function in the machine relieving previous operator from designating purpose. function designating subroutines, all having the ability to function as operator. randomness, irregularities in the energies of operators ability to function properly trough replication competing with other operators in a network. insufficient dependencies become natural behavior.

[beautyinbreakdowns2]

I like most of what he's saying here. It's a fine distinction that we may be on opposite sides of, Haisch and I. I don't believe in intelligent design, but rather that consciousness itself is what gives rise to all matter and what drives evolution and the origins of life itself, perhaps even the big bang. Consciousness is an energy field that goes all the way down to the plank scale, the strings.

[beautyinbreakdowns2]

I like the idea that consciousness itself is the basis of the physical universe. That notion is supported by quantum physics. And I like the idea of spirituality with science and without religious dogmas. Life is the universe looking at itself. That is the purpose, life for it's own sake. It's pantheism after a kind. it's a middle ground where all but the fundamental dogmatists can stand.

[ndrthrdr1]

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." From a letter Einstein wrote 24 March 1954.included in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, Princeton University Press.

[HarshColby]

Fine collection of tired old arguments based on a profound misunderstanding of science.

[TheJCJexe]

Religion as a way of controlling people... The purpose of the universe is to create life.

[lilsm555]

@TheJCJexe the universe evolves also! but what is the direction it is moving in if there is any.

[biohazardcrisis]

i like this song what is it called

[hamidmanowar]

god created the world if you be good you go to heaven in the name of jesus why this is so hard for people to get?

[maurieer]

@hamidmanowar There could have been a creator. I can't argue against that.

What i don't believe in, is a personal god who watches every move I make, Hears everything i think and say and then when I die, judges me as to whether I'm fit to go to it's so-called heaven or to it's hell.

In my opinon, there is no heaven or hell.

This is man's delusion.

[beyonddeadstudio]

@maurieer

have you read the god theory? or the purpose guided universe? I highly recommend  both books if you havent.

[maurieer]

@beyonddeadstudio

No, I haven't read the"Purpose Guided Universe" and if I did, it wouldn't change my mind.

It's just another way of pushing the intelligent creation idea which comes from the author's delusion.

[gioandgulaze]

@maurieer AHAHAHAHAA your pretty funny

[GrandmasterBBC]

@maurieer Good points you make there. However, I am not sure what makes anyone believe for a moment the there is any sort of creator? At least anyone in the modern are of science and reasoning.

[maurieer]

@GrandmasterBBC

I simply don't know if there is a creator nor does anyone, that can prove it.

All i can gather is that there are a lot of people who base their knowledge of a book written by man and his delusions.

This proves to me that the whole bible was written by people(man) with delusions.

Until I can see the truth, I remain a sceptic to this day.

[GrandmasterBBC]

@maurieer Amen to that. Oh, wait...wrong choice of words.

[BJ151]

@GrandmasterBBC Many people have experienced miracles or things that happened, but had a veery low chance of happening. When something like that happened to me, I couldn't not believe.

[GrandmasterBBC]

@BJ151 Actually, I think mental psychosis is more common than you claim. Do you care to expand on this "miracle" that you experienced? I am willing to bet that only you witnessed this event. Call me a skeptic, but I am one of those nut jobs who requires proof of such claims.

[BJ151]

@GrandmasterBBC Ofcourse I'll expand, but not in this chat, because it's personal.

[seanoyler]

I gotta love someone who calls theories "established scientific facts" lol

[adepressedlife]

I gotta love anyone who believes that science could help to logically explain the presence or absence of God. Also I gotta respect the fact that you don't hide under a rock and pretend everything happened according to an ancient religious book or doctrine, in the end we will never find spiritual peace or true knowledge from a unproven fairy tale. Now all you gotta do is tell everyone in organized religion that you can still believe in God without have a stupid book of immoral rules to follow!

[dknightnikifor]

Terrific video and astounding theory! Thank you for bringing science and religion together. I'm delighted to see you have a new book is on the way.

[TheJustinfernandez]

i would like one unified theory.

Yet i off-course hope too find some more deeper meaning too life/after life.

yet in the end it could all be relative.. :(

[arunachala1]

I both enjoyed this video and the music, thank you. I totally agree with the idea of there being little difference between what spirituality and science looks for, and finds, there is no difference, the two are close indeed.

Religion with it's dogmas does not even come close to this.

Wonderful video!

[G5trance]

sir, I would like to know the name of the music that is playing along with the video. thank you.

[TheMrDeist]

So, I guess it is logical that there might be purpose and intelligence behind the universe after all.

[cartoonhead5]

There is no contridiction between spirituality and science but what does that have with the absurd notion of a personal god? We are not the result of an creative intelligence even in our solar system earth is the only planet with life that is enough to prove it was an accident.

[LifeIsABigPuzzle]

It is a good book and you all should read it! I am almost done! :D

[DemonMayCare]

Me too

I also believe both in Science and God

For me Science is just the Newest Testament for the Bible although its not yet complete

[love2punk]

Doesnt anyone else find that humans should just explore the universe ? perhaps even colonize it? these questions as to why were here , what the galaxys for and where it came from should be explored and answered. We have the intelligence and technology , it would be a true tragedy if the human race just ended up extinct.

[Carth501]

totaly agree with you we should colonize space cause we wont find any answers here on this rock we will find and discover new resources and maybe who knows alien life we might find

[love2punk]

@Carth501 Yeah dude our species could basically never die out if we colonize many galaxies and all that

[rugbyslide]

2:07: Since the 1980s scientists have learned, that numerous laws of the universe are "just right", for life to arise and evolve in the Universe.

I would correct that to say: ... for life "as we know it" to arise and evolve in the Universe.

So, do we have just the two choices that you mentioned? or is it possible that other forms of life maybe possible if some of the laws were different than what we know them to be?

[LifeIsABigPuzzle]

@rugbyslide I know what you are saying. But you should read his books. He is pretty interesting. He doesn't believe in the crazy god of the Bible, Koran, or other holy book. He believes something else. You might like it! :D

[rugbyslide]

@LifeIsABigPuzzle Just being interesting is not enough. I mean, almost all the arguments presented in this video are easily falsified, I wonder what the book has in store.

What I pointed out was one such example. I really do not see why we need to insert a "Purpose" or a "Creator" or an "Intelligence" in the scheme of things. For sure there are many unknowns about the origin and the nature of the universe, but why take the giant leap and insert another unknown? this intelligent "creator"!!

[LifeIsABigPuzzle]

@rugbyslide In the book, he explains how finely tuned this universe. Supposedly, the universe is so finely tuned that you would have to put three hundred to five hundred zeros behind the number to get this universe. You can believe in an infinite number of universes if you want to but we have no way to prove that they are actually there. So it is a matter of faith either way you go. He wants to believe in an Intelligence because it is warmer than a random universe.

[LifeIsABigPuzzle]

@rugbyslide Yes, there might be life if some of the laws were different. But would there be intelligent life? That might have been the goal.

[ThePiousOne5]

nice graphics, mashallah

[amdaniels11]

Keeping it simple - nails don't hammmer themselves into wood - and the universe didn't just emancipate iteself from nothing. We don't have the perception to reverse engineer the complexities of how and why, at least yet. We have been given love and compassion to work with as a priveldge - lets concentrate on this priority for now. Hawkins = cranky man, I respect his ingenuity, tho Einstein knew there is a benevolent creator and I sure as heaven and hell - do as well...with all due respect :-)

[amdaniels11]

what if love is the most complex and coveted ESSENCE of all creation, and the big fella (with humble respect) is utilising all possible divine powers and creative possibilities to perpetuate and propogate love and all it's possible evolving derivations and possibilities? Got this from holding my three children up to the light of the sun to touch their skin for the first time, seconds after they were born ~ I glimpsed something more than matter, dimensions and theoretical physics, love's real

[hourofpower]

Talking on this subject-

everything is real everything exists.

we live in a paradox

everything contradicts itself-

thats how you get creation

[vobear]

Brilliant, beautiful piece of work! Is is not possible, Dr. Haisch, that the manifest universe is at once both the Body and the Habitat of God-mind?