nato=notorious association of the terrorists nations
uno=united no-sense organisation
usa,france,uk and their mafia allies are the greatest liers ,conspirators and criminals the have enslaved main stream medias and fooled world innocent people.these war mogerer political leaders are the bloody killers and looters will go to hell.
who are the palistinains to declare that the kingdoms of isreal and judeah wernt therescine the planet was mad.if they werent from there then were did they come from?even if the kingoms wre crushed by theromans so now they just get a home land. what your advocating is a bigger war of ignorance
It is amazing how a lie like this can be propagated, don't any of you know that there was not "Palestine" until 1967, they were called "Jordanians" Jews purchased land from Arabs, they never once took land by force. When the Jews were attacked by all the surrounding Arab countries they defended themselves in the 7 day war and that is when the "Occupation" began, they did not start the war but they were bound to protect themselves.
@MUDSHARK111 When people evacuate a land because they are told if they don't they will be destroyed with the enemy if they don't, then I don't consider the opposing force taking that land to be taking it by force, those who left, did so on their own free will, because they trusted that the arabic and egyption forces would be able to defeat the Jews as they said they would. The Israelis moved in after they left, but then most of the arabic world is too brainwashed to admit to this.
@titusax "those who left, did so on their own free will, because they trusted that the arabic and egyption forces would be able to defeat the Jews as they said they would" this is a long since debunked myth.i refer you to the work of benny morris a Zionist Israeli jew.and well respected historian. regarded as one of the leading scholars on this subject .
@MUDSHARK111 Only a myth to those who refuse to accept the truth. I trust in those who were on the ground, on the Palestinian side. Some got away from the "Hate" indoctrination and the constant propaganda and are willing to tell the truth. With the entire Arabic world against Israel, how is it they are able to prevail? 15 Million Surrounded by 390 million certainly doesn't sound like fair odds. Lying to the enemy of Islam is not only allowed but encouraged.
@titusax "Only a myth to those who refuse to accept the truth" so in the half an hour since my last post you have done no research have you ?lol you have a version of history that suites you and your sticking to it.it doesn't matter what evidence i will throw at you you will just carry on asserting a story that has been thoroughly debunked and is no longer used by any respected historians?
@titusax BTW you should take a look at bennys work.he takes the position that the jews did expelled the Arabs .but justifies it, and only wishes that they had not been expelled completely out of all of Palestine.i can respect a guy that tells the truth even if his position is unethical .unlike those who paint themselves as the victim.when they are in fact the perpetrators.
@MUDSHARK111 The problem is your not bringing anything new to the table. Should I take the word of someone whose interests are against Israel or from someone who was there? People will always believe what they want to believe, and hatred for the Jews has even cause the arab world to believe that the Holocaust in Germany was phony too. I do not consider anyone who straps on a bomb and blows hmself/herself up in a populated area to be a victim, yet Palestinian's did this many times.
@titusax "Should I take the word of someone whose interests are against Israel" benny is a Zionist he is 100%for Israel and believes that eventually Israel will have no choice but to expel all Palestinians.take his word not mine."hatred for the Jews has even cause the Arab world to believe that the Holocaust in Germany was phony"prior to Zionism jews where treated better by Arabs than they where any where else in the world.if they hate you now its because of what Israel has done.
"I do not consider anyone who straps on a bomb and blows hmself/herself up in a populated area to be a victim"the irgun and other Jewish terrorists killed civilians set of explosives in populated areas raped and executed woman . have you forgotten your history?you had 2 prim minster that where leaders of the irgun these terrorists are now honored by Israel.its a bit of an hypocrisy to get indignant about Arab terrorism when they learned it of the Zionist Jews.
@MUDSHARK111 You've bought into the propaganda of hate, it is an addicting drug and has infested the Muslim world in the Middle East. I won't argue that atrocities don't happen in war, not all solders represent their country well. But admitting to a wrong and condemning it is something that Israel has done over and over. Does the Arab world ever condemn their atrocities to any non-Muslim? The same year the Jews came back to Israel they were attacked. What did they do to provoke that?
@titusax "you've bought into the propaganda of hate" this is just a baseless accusation .you have changed the conversation from facts to assertions.i have to think you have done so because the facts conflict with your version of history.there is a reluctance to except any wrong doing at all from Israel. and you represent this mindset very well."What did they do to provoke that?" are you referring to Israels Independence?
@MUDSHARK111 Israel became a nation when? 1948, where did they get the land? Land that was controlled by England and land they purchased, there were many Arabs living in the area more then willing to sell their land for a very high price and many got rich of those sells, personal testimony of those who sold land or from their family supports this. Israel did not "Invade" the land, they did not take it by force, they did declare themselves a nation in the land they owned.
@titusax "they did declare themselves a nation in the land they owned" i really dont know where you get your information from but here are the facts. jews legally owned less than 10% of Palestine and made up about 33% of the population.after declaring Independence Israel excepted a partition that gave them them 56% of the land .before and after Independence jews/Israelis had invaded Arab towns beyond the un partition and raped murdered and forced out Arabs.you can check what i have wrote.
@titusax BTW "Palestine was largely owned by absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut. " the majority of these landlords had acquired the land dishonestly under the corrupt ottaman empire .however Palestinians worked the land for them, sharing the profits.many Palestinian peasants had found themselves with out a livelihood once the absentee landlords had sold there land to Zionists who had an official racist policy of not allowing Arabs to by back land.
@MUDSHARK111 Okay, let us assume that everything you have stated is valid and true. Israelis purchased land from the controlling land owners. If you own land and someone is living on it and you sell that land, does not the purchaser have a right to it? I am a land lord, though currently I have no renters, if I sell my land and apartments, then whoever buys them from me had control, he can change rates and do whatever is within the law of the land.
@titusax it was unfair but perfectly legal according to the British authority at the time .however as i have said jews owned less than 10% of all Palestine land. and i am being generous the figure is realistically more like 6% .when Israel declared Independence they where a mostly immigrant pepole. only about 5% where indigenous jews. all jews in Palestine made up less than one third of the population 33% .this 33% accepted 56% and went on to take 80%.
@MUDSHARK111 It is important to identify all the events that lead up to this, to ignore those events is to make the Israelis look like the perpetrators the were not. They did not start the war in 1948, nor did they start any other war since then, they have been continuously on the "defense". Is there some offensive action in defense? Yes, but it only takes place after the fact and is always a "preventative" measure taken to ensure security.
@titusax in 1947 jews had invaded arab downs and began expelling murdering and raping Arabs ,these Arab towns where beyond the proposed UN borders . do some research on the irgun to confirm this.this had gone on before any Arab army had stepped foot in Palestine. Israel cannot claim it did not start the war.
@MUDSHARK111 Looking into the Irgun, they were a radical group yes, and committed acts of Terror primarily against the "British" occupation yes, your reports of murder and rape might be isolated occurrences if they happened at all. The UN resolution was to divide the state, something Arabs did not accept but Jews did. Once again, the acts of Terror were not against Arabs but rather the British, granted neither Arabs nor the Jews liked each other.
@titusax lets set aside other incidents of Israeli forces murdering Arabs .lets look at the Deir Yassin massacre .this event perpetrated by the irgun took place 5 weeks before you claimed Arabs attacked Israel. the town is located well beyond the un boarders. this is just one Arab town beyond the un boarders out of many that where invaded .and you still want to claim Israel didnt start the war?
@MUDSHARK111 As long as you want to look at things one sided you will miss much of the truth. so many of these so called massacres where prepared by the Arabs. This has been seen over and over again, even comedic in some instances where a "dead body" roles out of a coffin that is dropped only to stand up and get back in. Or video evidence that show the dead bodies of a mass of young boys(never girls) who had been stripped of weapons before the video was shot, there are always two sides.
@titusax ok i will ask it again.because you have completely ignored the question . a Jewish terrorist group had invaded an Arab town beyond the prepossessed border that the Jews had excepted .5 weeks before any Arab army had stepped foot in Palestine and began to kill and expel the arab population. did Arabs invade any Jewish villages? did Arab military ever attack any Jews beyond the UN borders? was what the irgun did an act of war ? do you still want to claim Israel did not start the war?
@MUDSHARK111 My answer was doubting the validity of the attack which you claim. Do I believe Arabs are willing to sacrifice their own simply to start a war with an enemy they hate? Absolutely, and I believe such a lie would be propagated among the Arab populations to add to the hatred which already existed and and insight the Arab populations to make war on the Jews. You might think this far fetched but video evidence has proven this tactic has been used which I formerly referred to.
@MUDSHARK111 Unless you are willing to accept that the Arabs and Palestinians are not "Always" the victims then you will never see the full truth. Does Israel admit to and condemn things their people have done? Yes, they do, and sometimes the Arab or Palestinian is the victim, do the Arabs ever admit when they have done wrong and condemn it? Do they condemn suicide bombings? No, they don't, they praise those who take such actions and immortalize them as heroes. That is a fact.
you claimed Israel did not start the 48 war. i have given you evidence to the contrary .you have presented no facts our evidence yourself and tried to digress in an attempted to gloss over the facts.you where predicted to keep doing this some posts ago. all i have written i verifiable .i can do nothing in the face of such willful ignorance.you can keep your head in the sand but you will know on some level you are wrong and you lacked the moral courage to really find out .i wish you no ill bye.
@MUDSHARK111 Just so I can confirm which story your referring to, what village was massacred, the one of which you speak? If you want someone to agree with you there are already plenty who do, many around the world have bought into the propaganda and lies that came out of the Arab/Israeli conflict in 1948. If you want the truth of what happened you have to dig deep, the lies that were told back then have been continued on today and are remembered today as fact.
@titusax as to the 67 war. "Prime Minister Menachem Begin acknowledged that “In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”"
@MUDSHARK111 Is someone pulls out a gun and points it at you, do you wait for him to cock the gun and pull the trigger? I'm sure Egypt was just building up the army int he Sinai for their health. Out numbered and out gunned the Israelis still won. Are the acts of terror from 1947 justified? In some minds they might be, but those kind of actions have a way of biting you in the rear later and that is why Israel is experiencing today
@MUDSHARK111 I'll address one more thing, until the 6 day war, the land that is currently called Palestine was not contested for by the Jews. Much of the land they did control was rightfully purchased and underdeveloped by those who were living in the area. Over the years, barren land was irrigated and cultivated, by the Jews, swamp lands were drained and cultivated, by the Jews. Over the years it has become a beautiful land but it was not prior to those who worked hard to make it that way.
@titusax "Palestine was not contested for by the Jews" yes it was. "Much of the land they did control was rightfully purchased" no it wasn't. the old Israel made the desert bloom propaganda is something that is disputed .however even if true 70% of that land was not there to make beautiful.
@MUDSHARK111 One more thing, as for Palestine and the "Occupation" if you abandon your land do you have any right to come back and take it once someone else has moved in and improved it? Those who remained in Palestine have never been forced to leave, if they had then no "Palestinians" would be currently living there. Arabs are allowed to live in Israel and do so freely, they even vote, why is it so wrong to for Jews to develop undeveloped land in Palestine to live in?
acknowledging this injustice is the first step .many would and do argue for the jews to survive after 100 of years of persecution the removal arabs and taking of Arab land was a necessary.i do not want or expect Israel to give Palestine back.i would not make right one injustice by commiting another .there are good pepole in isreail who did not kill or drive out anybody. and they have a right to the land because they where born there .but isreail needs to stoop playing the victim, they where not
@titusax "if you abandon your land do you have any right to come back and take it once someone else has moved in and improved it" those Arabs who ran from fear of being murdered or raped by the irgun and other Israeli terrorist and those that had ran for fear of being killed in the fighting had a right to return.now they have a right to compensation.
@titusax what you must understand is that Israelis long excepted and largly unchallenged history has been debunked by newly available archival material .this material is Israelis . not Arabs not Palestinian, but there own words. and the new historians who wright the truth of the events around the 48 Independence are predominately jewish.
Jews control America political, news, hollywood, and monetary system of America.. No wonder Americans don't see the truth.
since israels creation 1948 there was not but war in the world..and middle east..
jews brainwash people and impose into cultures what they believe is ok. While in Israhell its not. "land of jews" why isn it land of Christians as well?
what will you do People when you invite someone into you home and later he 'd say now get out of this home because this home is belogns to us? well and Still they are Terrorist huh !!! really the people who are fighting with Stones they are killing them with Tanks .. its a Biggest Coward Act ..
When Hitler Killed Jews like an Animal.. then What this Palestian did with them ? They Opend their hands and ask them to come you are most welcome and later on what these jews did with them they kicked them out and said its our home... is this the Humanity huh?
@IBeatUpThugs Listen Israel is the most dangerous thing for the whole humanity and i would Ask you one thing that if you gave to someone Shelter and lateron He 'd say you get out of your own home land because its belongs to me! what will you do with him huh/? ...
@IBeatUpThugs and the People are fighting with Stones Man Only Stones... and they are using the tanks and Missiles on them .. what kind of War on terrorism it is huh ?? I would say this is the biggest Coward ACT in World and America is supporting them no man they are not supporting them but Israel is the one Who is roling on American from Behind.. but no one can see them ...
@jass1102 Only stones? Come back when you get a clue. Go look at what was confiscated form the Francop. Yes Israel blockades and is highly effective at stopping weapons smuggling, and protecting their civilians. So you turn around and point to their lower death toll and better weapons. Then you refer to it as occupation. When will you terrorist lovers stop spinning everything to your juvenile opinions and and use basic common sense.
It time for the US tell the Israeli supporters thay can't always have it their way just because they want it.......Why is it we the majority of the people in this country are being put at risk of attack by terrorist
just so that the Jews amoung us can support Israel.
Why is America fighting Isreals enemies for them. While they hide out in their walled apartheid state stealing more of their neighbours lands...... There is something god awfull about this pictrue.......
Israel can spit on Americans over and over again, and still the Americans will bow their heads and give Israel few more billions each year. It's the only developed country in the world that receives billions of dollars of American tax-payer money as "aid", and never even says a "thank you."
one da the Zionism, freemason, illuminaties, the night templors of king solomon, the anti christ and etc, will pay 1day, inshallah, may allah guide us for naw, 1day will come when muslims will re unite as 1
PRIVYZONE ? yo honestly people like you DO need to be shot. how can u even talk shit despite knowing,, deep down inside u , wat the truth is.... i mean if you have no feelings and u knoooww ur turning a blind eye to the truth,, then you are hopeless... and wat does suckin Israels dick given u so far ? bitch assss ZIONISTs !!
"honestly people like you DO need to be shot" Yes, you sound like a very peace-loving person, there, "DontfearNoMan". Someone rationally, and calmly states a dissenting opinion, and you're talking about wanting them killed. Typical bigoted Israel-hater behavior. Really, honestly, think about what you just said. "people like you DO need to be shot"? Can you people discuss anything without death-threats?
@sorenkierkegaard2008 Your the bigot I dont hear you protesting over the fact that privy called the palestenians animals? That makes you a hypocrite too :) problem with people like you is the illusion that you actually have a brain oh well no point arguing with a fool
That pales in comparison to islamic schools teaching their children to recite the mantra that "Jews are apes and pigs", and teaching them they should murder them in the last day. And by "protesting over the fact that privy called the palestenians animals" I'm guessing you would like to see me murdering, bombing, burning effigies- the way muslims usually "protest" fairly mild and innocuous statements. And, btw, if he's referring to the PLO, specifically, then I agree with him- animals.
People in the west Sukk: no doubt about it. And in the end, they will get what they deserve and will indeed envy Israel for its intelligence and strength to make EXCEPTIONALLY DIFFICULT decisions in dealing the the palistinians. These people DO NOT want peace: TODAY abbas rejected the settlement freeze (and he's supposed to be a moderate?) The palis were given free land and welfare and CHOSE warefare for 60 years. NO country would put up with that. Fukkk the palestinians, they are animals.
I hear you, man. You're talking to a bunch of brickwalls, though. You get these UN-crazed, "pacifist", liberal media infobabes doing movies like this, not knowing a damn thing they're talking about, making an emotional argument about the whole thing, swallowing psychotic PLO, muslim brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah propaganda whole without even questioning it, reinforced by dimwit college campus anarchists here in the U.S. and you can't make them give up their fantasy version of reality.
@privyzone Your the animal and your the idiot for generalizing an entire group of people under one banner. To generalize is to be stupid, and you by far are the stupidest person in the comment page.
Amen to that. I don't even know if I have the patience to finish it. You gotta love how they start the video out talking about how "what you're about to see, is the side of the story you won't hear", blah, blah, blah, blah. Excuse me, but this is about the ONLY side of the story you ever hear in the west. We're constantly innundated with this crap and they have the gall to talk about it like they're doing some kind of underground reporting on it, when really IT is just unquestioned propaganda.
@sorenkierkegaard2008 Excuse you! have you ever been under military occupation? Have you ever even stepped foot in the middle east? Actually talked to an arab? No I didnt think so. Eat the crap your mainstream media feeds you, believe your smarter than others, and die (hopefully soon) but what you say cant and wont change anything because your just an idiot in the midst of a million other idiots, congratulations you conformist pig.
For example, at 2:50 somebody claims the objective of the settlements is to make Palestinians leave Israel.
Truth is that it would've been a really bad strategy. Palestinian population is so large you have to be severely delusional to actually believe it's going anywhere! And that's without considering that no other arab country would accept Palestinians, had they left Israel, or the fact that due to procreation rate of Palestinians, Israeli population will be dwarfed within a two generations.
I consider myself to be an open-minded individual, but I stopped watching this BS after part 1 plus 3 minutes of part 2.
Makers of this video claim to be showing the truth, but all you do is present a very warped and tendentious view on matters, sprinkled with some lies (or delusions, however you want to call it), very far from being even close to objective.
In fact, some the claims and "conclusions" made in the video are downright ridiculous, and fail to withstand any logical analysis.
The more I read and learn about Israel/Palestine, the more I realize how unjust the Israeli settlements are. The Israeli people who insist the entire land is for them are the worst. The Palestinians who resort to violence are the same who suffer the most.
And Israel form civilization is one of most advanced civilizations in the world!!! In 60 years, Israelis does, that NO ONE does before! So where is the truth??? Huh... Palestiniens just won't live in peace. Welcome to reality show: Go through any City, town of Israel, and try to go to Ramallah, or Jenin... of corse, don't try to do that, aspecially if u jewish... That a truth.
I really don't understand what the hell you are saying but I remember God did cast you out or else you wouldn't have been scattered around Europe. You invaded there first. It doesn't belong to Israelis. There will be justice and Israel will pay.
wtf!??? Jewish don't need promises from any one, they has on homeland forever, in the past, and in the future, and it's land here, were the todays israel stand. If some one want to live in your home, so he need to respect your culture and traditions. Jewish never looking home in any other place, where was palestinians before Moses??? WHO IS PALESTINIANS? Palestiniansare people that do not respect civilization in Israel forms.
You are an idiot. You know very well even from the Tanakh that the Jews killed to take over that land then God cast you out. Now zionists went to the land that was occupied by people and take took their homes and are killing Palestinians. Are you saying these people are lying and that the news are lying. I think you have mental issues.
The truth will never be televised. It will never be accepted by the meanstream media. You wont find it being taught to your children. It can not and will not be uttered by a cable news analyst or by your local politician. The truth is non refundable & negotiable. The truth - if accepted - in its purest form is an instant ingredient for the awakening of humankind.... The TRUTH is forbidden!
My opinion is that Zionist used the holocaust, blew it ever so out of proportion., and used United states backin to take over a portion of the Palestinian land.. ok thats alright.. but then , the greedy motha fukaz that they are.. they kept expanding their borders. and keep acting like we should feel sorry for these bitches like they were they ones being killed. BULL SHIT. i have jewish friends.. nothin against jews.. this is about the Zionist movement. FUK YALL FAGOtS.
Right, because Israel has never given back any land... And hey, here's a question, did any muslim countries ever illegally seize Gaza and the West Bank? If so, where was the outrage from Yasser Arafat and the PLO when that happened?
nato=notorious association of the terrorists nations
uno=united no-sense organisation
usa,france,uk and their mafia allies are the greatest liers ,conspirators and criminals the have enslaved main stream medias and fooled world innocent people.these war mogerer political leaders are the bloody killers and looters will go to hell.
globengo 1 month ago
who are the palistinains to declare that the kingdoms of isreal and judeah wernt therescine the planet was mad.if they werent from there then were did they come from?even if the kingoms wre crushed by theromans so now they just get a home land. what your advocating is a bigger war of ignorance
maskedmosher 4 months ago
today israel still rejector of Jesus and they say this what bible prophecies.. nice!
lakonanhidup 11 months ago
It is amazing how a lie like this can be propagated, don't any of you know that there was not "Palestine" until 1967, they were called "Jordanians" Jews purchased land from Arabs, they never once took land by force. When the Jews were attacked by all the surrounding Arab countries they defended themselves in the 7 day war and that is when the "Occupation" began, they did not start the war but they were bound to protect themselves.
titusax 1 year ago
@titusax lol you have told out right lies and half truths.if you have the moral courage, get back to me and i will educate you .
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 When people evacuate a land because they are told if they don't they will be destroyed with the enemy if they don't, then I don't consider the opposing force taking that land to be taking it by force, those who left, did so on their own free will, because they trusted that the arabic and egyption forces would be able to defeat the Jews as they said they would. The Israelis moved in after they left, but then most of the arabic world is too brainwashed to admit to this.
titusax 11 months ago
@titusax "those who left, did so on their own free will, because they trusted that the arabic and egyption forces would be able to defeat the Jews as they said they would" this is a long since debunked myth.i refer you to the work of benny morris a Zionist Israeli jew.and well respected historian. regarded as one of the leading scholars on this subject .
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 Only a myth to those who refuse to accept the truth. I trust in those who were on the ground, on the Palestinian side. Some got away from the "Hate" indoctrination and the constant propaganda and are willing to tell the truth. With the entire Arabic world against Israel, how is it they are able to prevail? 15 Million Surrounded by 390 million certainly doesn't sound like fair odds. Lying to the enemy of Islam is not only allowed but encouraged.
titusax 11 months ago
@titusax "Only a myth to those who refuse to accept the truth" so in the half an hour since my last post you have done no research have you ?lol you have a version of history that suites you and your sticking to it.it doesn't matter what evidence i will throw at you you will just carry on asserting a story that has been thoroughly debunked and is no longer used by any respected historians?
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@titusax BTW you should take a look at bennys work.he takes the position that the jews did expelled the Arabs .but justifies it, and only wishes that they had not been expelled completely out of all of Palestine.i can respect a guy that tells the truth even if his position is unethical .unlike those who paint themselves as the victim.when they are in fact the perpetrators.
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 The problem is your not bringing anything new to the table. Should I take the word of someone whose interests are against Israel or from someone who was there? People will always believe what they want to believe, and hatred for the Jews has even cause the arab world to believe that the Holocaust in Germany was phony too. I do not consider anyone who straps on a bomb and blows hmself/herself up in a populated area to be a victim, yet Palestinian's did this many times.
titusax 11 months ago
@titusax "Should I take the word of someone whose interests are against Israel" benny is a Zionist he is 100%for Israel and believes that eventually Israel will have no choice but to expel all Palestinians.take his word not mine."hatred for the Jews has even cause the Arab world to believe that the Holocaust in Germany was phony"prior to Zionism jews where treated better by Arabs than they where any where else in the world.if they hate you now its because of what Israel has done.
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
"I do not consider anyone who straps on a bomb and blows hmself/herself up in a populated area to be a victim"the irgun and other Jewish terrorists killed civilians set of explosives in populated areas raped and executed woman . have you forgotten your history?you had 2 prim minster that where leaders of the irgun these terrorists are now honored by Israel.its a bit of an hypocrisy to get indignant about Arab terrorism when they learned it of the Zionist Jews.
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 You've bought into the propaganda of hate, it is an addicting drug and has infested the Muslim world in the Middle East. I won't argue that atrocities don't happen in war, not all solders represent their country well. But admitting to a wrong and condemning it is something that Israel has done over and over. Does the Arab world ever condemn their atrocities to any non-Muslim? The same year the Jews came back to Israel they were attacked. What did they do to provoke that?
titusax 11 months ago
@titusax "you've bought into the propaganda of hate" this is just a baseless accusation .you have changed the conversation from facts to assertions.i have to think you have done so because the facts conflict with your version of history.there is a reluctance to except any wrong doing at all from Israel. and you represent this mindset very well."What did they do to provoke that?" are you referring to Israels Independence?
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 Israel became a nation when? 1948, where did they get the land? Land that was controlled by England and land they purchased, there were many Arabs living in the area more then willing to sell their land for a very high price and many got rich of those sells, personal testimony of those who sold land or from their family supports this. Israel did not "Invade" the land, they did not take it by force, they did declare themselves a nation in the land they owned.
titusax 11 months ago
@titusax "they did declare themselves a nation in the land they owned" i really dont know where you get your information from but here are the facts. jews legally owned less than 10% of Palestine and made up about 33% of the population.after declaring Independence Israel excepted a partition that gave them them 56% of the land .before and after Independence jews/Israelis had invaded Arab towns beyond the un partition and raped murdered and forced out Arabs.you can check what i have wrote.
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@titusax BTW "Palestine was largely owned by absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut. " the majority of these landlords had acquired the land dishonestly under the corrupt ottaman empire .however Palestinians worked the land for them, sharing the profits.many Palestinian peasants had found themselves with out a livelihood once the absentee landlords had sold there land to Zionists who had an official racist policy of not allowing Arabs to by back land.
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 Okay, let us assume that everything you have stated is valid and true. Israelis purchased land from the controlling land owners. If you own land and someone is living on it and you sell that land, does not the purchaser have a right to it? I am a land lord, though currently I have no renters, if I sell my land and apartments, then whoever buys them from me had control, he can change rates and do whatever is within the law of the land.
titusax 11 months ago
@titusax it was unfair but perfectly legal according to the British authority at the time .however as i have said jews owned less than 10% of all Palestine land. and i am being generous the figure is realistically more like 6% .when Israel declared Independence they where a mostly immigrant pepole. only about 5% where indigenous jews. all jews in Palestine made up less than one third of the population 33% .this 33% accepted 56% and went on to take 80%.
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 It is important to identify all the events that lead up to this, to ignore those events is to make the Israelis look like the perpetrators the were not. They did not start the war in 1948, nor did they start any other war since then, they have been continuously on the "defense". Is there some offensive action in defense? Yes, but it only takes place after the fact and is always a "preventative" measure taken to ensure security.
titusax 11 months ago
@titusax in 1947 jews had invaded arab downs and began expelling murdering and raping Arabs ,these Arab towns where beyond the proposed UN borders . do some research on the irgun to confirm this.this had gone on before any Arab army had stepped foot in Palestine. Israel cannot claim it did not start the war.
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 Looking into the Irgun, they were a radical group yes, and committed acts of Terror primarily against the "British" occupation yes, your reports of murder and rape might be isolated occurrences if they happened at all. The UN resolution was to divide the state, something Arabs did not accept but Jews did. Once again, the acts of Terror were not against Arabs but rather the British, granted neither Arabs nor the Jews liked each other.
titusax 11 months ago
@titusax lets set aside other incidents of Israeli forces murdering Arabs .lets look at the Deir Yassin massacre .this event perpetrated by the irgun took place 5 weeks before you claimed Arabs attacked Israel. the town is located well beyond the un boarders. this is just one Arab town beyond the un boarders out of many that where invaded .and you still want to claim Israel didnt start the war?
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 As long as you want to look at things one sided you will miss much of the truth. so many of these so called massacres where prepared by the Arabs. This has been seen over and over again, even comedic in some instances where a "dead body" roles out of a coffin that is dropped only to stand up and get back in. Or video evidence that show the dead bodies of a mass of young boys(never girls) who had been stripped of weapons before the video was shot, there are always two sides.
titusax 11 months ago
@titusax ok i will ask it again.because you have completely ignored the question . a Jewish terrorist group had invaded an Arab town beyond the prepossessed border that the Jews had excepted .5 weeks before any Arab army had stepped foot in Palestine and began to kill and expel the arab population. did Arabs invade any Jewish villages? did Arab military ever attack any Jews beyond the UN borders? was what the irgun did an act of war ? do you still want to claim Israel did not start the war?
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 My answer was doubting the validity of the attack which you claim. Do I believe Arabs are willing to sacrifice their own simply to start a war with an enemy they hate? Absolutely, and I believe such a lie would be propagated among the Arab populations to add to the hatred which already existed and and insight the Arab populations to make war on the Jews. You might think this far fetched but video evidence has proven this tactic has been used which I formerly referred to.
titusax 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 Unless you are willing to accept that the Arabs and Palestinians are not "Always" the victims then you will never see the full truth. Does Israel admit to and condemn things their people have done? Yes, they do, and sometimes the Arab or Palestinian is the victim, do the Arabs ever admit when they have done wrong and condemn it? Do they condemn suicide bombings? No, they don't, they praise those who take such actions and immortalize them as heroes. That is a fact.
titusax 11 months ago
you claimed Israel did not start the 48 war. i have given you evidence to the contrary .you have presented no facts our evidence yourself and tried to digress in an attempted to gloss over the facts.you where predicted to keep doing this some posts ago. all i have written i verifiable .i can do nothing in the face of such willful ignorance.you can keep your head in the sand but you will know on some level you are wrong and you lacked the moral courage to really find out .i wish you no ill bye.
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 Just so I can confirm which story your referring to, what village was massacred, the one of which you speak? If you want someone to agree with you there are already plenty who do, many around the world have bought into the propaganda and lies that came out of the Arab/Israeli conflict in 1948. If you want the truth of what happened you have to dig deep, the lies that were told back then have been continued on today and are remembered today as fact.
titusax 11 months ago
@titusax as to the 67 war. "Prime Minister Menachem Begin acknowledged that “In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”"
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 Is someone pulls out a gun and points it at you, do you wait for him to cock the gun and pull the trigger? I'm sure Egypt was just building up the army int he Sinai for their health. Out numbered and out gunned the Israelis still won. Are the acts of terror from 1947 justified? In some minds they might be, but those kind of actions have a way of biting you in the rear later and that is why Israel is experiencing today
titusax 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 I'll address one more thing, until the 6 day war, the land that is currently called Palestine was not contested for by the Jews. Much of the land they did control was rightfully purchased and underdeveloped by those who were living in the area. Over the years, barren land was irrigated and cultivated, by the Jews, swamp lands were drained and cultivated, by the Jews. Over the years it has become a beautiful land but it was not prior to those who worked hard to make it that way.
titusax 11 months ago
@titusax "Palestine was not contested for by the Jews" yes it was. "Much of the land they did control was rightfully purchased" no it wasn't. the old Israel made the desert bloom propaganda is something that is disputed .however even if true 70% of that land was not there to make beautiful.
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@MUDSHARK111 One more thing, as for Palestine and the "Occupation" if you abandon your land do you have any right to come back and take it once someone else has moved in and improved it? Those who remained in Palestine have never been forced to leave, if they had then no "Palestinians" would be currently living there. Arabs are allowed to live in Israel and do so freely, they even vote, why is it so wrong to for Jews to develop undeveloped land in Palestine to live in?
titusax 11 months ago
acknowledging this injustice is the first step .many would and do argue for the jews to survive after 100 of years of persecution the removal arabs and taking of Arab land was a necessary.i do not want or expect Israel to give Palestine back.i would not make right one injustice by commiting another .there are good pepole in isreail who did not kill or drive out anybody. and they have a right to the land because they where born there .but isreail needs to stoop playing the victim, they where not
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
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@titusax "if you abandon your land do you have any right to come back and take it once someone else has moved in and improved it" those Arabs who ran from fear of being murdered or raped by the irgun and other Israeli terrorist and those that had ran for fear of being killed in the fighting had a right to return.now they have a right to compensation.
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
@titusax what you must understand is that Israelis long excepted and largly unchallenged history has been debunked by newly available archival material .this material is Israelis . not Arabs not Palestinian, but there own words. and the new historians who wright the truth of the events around the 48 Independence are predominately jewish.
MUDSHARK111 11 months ago
Where is Hitler when the world needs him.
Jews control America political, news, hollywood, and monetary system of America.. No wonder Americans don't see the truth.
since israels creation 1948 there was not but war in the world..and middle east..
jews brainwash people and impose into cultures what they believe is ok. While in Israhell its not. "land of jews" why isn it land of Christians as well?
fuck israel and zionist jews
BosniakCommando 1 year ago
Omgsh i feel so bad after i her that the girl try ed to kill herself :(
specialchannel 1 year ago
LOOOL. Maybe if you would not start wars on Israel every few years Israel would be a bit nicer to you.
GunsFuture 1 year ago
@GunsFuture gtfo..what makes u lough dummy?
i really lough at u r8 now
2tocoolDUH 3 months ago
Check out history and what the Arabs think and do today ... and you will understand the Jews.
pigment777 1 year ago
fuck kabala talmud zionist motherfuckers. not real jews?
mosonick masons and the devil dick sucker bush ho killed
3000 americans on 9/11 too demonios muslims for the
new world order?? wake up
radomaxx 1 year ago
what will you do People when you invite someone into you home and later he 'd say now get out of this home because this home is belogns to us? well and Still they are Terrorist huh !!! really the people who are fighting with Stones they are killing them with Tanks .. its a Biggest Coward Act ..
jass1102 1 year ago
When Hitler Killed Jews like an Animal.. then What this Palestian did with them ? They Opend their hands and ask them to come you are most welcome and later on what these jews did with them they kicked them out and said its our home... is this the Humanity huh?
jass1102 1 year ago
@jass1102 lol
nice try dude
2tocoolDUH 3 months ago
Everyone who criticizes Israel is an antisemite. Including Noam Chomsky.
The real problem is not that Israel doesn't view Palestine as equal. But that the rest of the world does not view Jews as equal.
IBeatUpThugs 1 year ago
@IBeatUpThugs Listen Israel is the most dangerous thing for the whole humanity and i would Ask you one thing that if you gave to someone Shelter and lateron He 'd say you get out of your own home land because its belongs to me! what will you do with him huh/? ...
jass1102 1 year ago
@IBeatUpThugs and the People are fighting with Stones Man Only Stones... and they are using the tanks and Missiles on them .. what kind of War on terrorism it is huh ?? I would say this is the biggest Coward ACT in World and America is supporting them no man they are not supporting them but Israel is the one Who is roling on American from Behind.. but no one can see them ...
jass1102 1 year ago
@jass1102 Only stones? Come back when you get a clue. Go look at what was confiscated form the Francop. Yes Israel blockades and is highly effective at stopping weapons smuggling, and protecting their civilians. So you turn around and point to their lower death toll and better weapons. Then you refer to it as occupation. When will you terrorist lovers stop spinning everything to your juvenile opinions and and use basic common sense.
IBeatUpThugs 1 year ago
It time for the US tell the Israeli supporters thay can't always have it their way just because they want it.......Why is it we the majority of the people in this country are being put at risk of attack by terrorist
just so that the Jews amoung us can support Israel.
Why is America fighting Isreals enemies for them. While they hide out in their walled apartheid state stealing more of their neighbours lands...... There is something god awfull about this pictrue.......
sukmat38 1 year ago
Israel can spit on Americans over and over again, and still the Americans will bow their heads and give Israel few more billions each year. It's the only developed country in the world that receives billions of dollars of American tax-payer money as "aid", and never even says a "thank you."
sukmat38 1 year ago
one da the Zionism, freemason, illuminaties, the night templors of king solomon, the anti christ and etc, will pay 1day, inshallah, may allah guide us for naw, 1day will come when muslims will re unite as 1
khanei23 2 years ago
Zionism forever!
sorenkierkegaard2008 2 years ago
PRIVYZONE ? yo honestly people like you DO need to be shot. how can u even talk shit despite knowing,, deep down inside u , wat the truth is.... i mean if you have no feelings and u knoooww ur turning a blind eye to the truth,, then you are hopeless... and wat does suckin Israels dick given u so far ? bitch assss ZIONISTs !!
DontfearNoMan 2 years ago
"honestly people like you DO need to be shot" Yes, you sound like a very peace-loving person, there, "DontfearNoMan". Someone rationally, and calmly states a dissenting opinion, and you're talking about wanting them killed. Typical bigoted Israel-hater behavior. Really, honestly, think about what you just said. "people like you DO need to be shot"? Can you people discuss anything without death-threats?
sorenkierkegaard2008 2 years ago
@sorenkierkegaard2008 Your the bigot I dont hear you protesting over the fact that privy called the palestenians animals? That makes you a hypocrite too :) problem with people like you is the illusion that you actually have a brain oh well no point arguing with a fool
yazooii 2 years ago
That pales in comparison to islamic schools teaching their children to recite the mantra that "Jews are apes and pigs", and teaching them they should murder them in the last day. And by "protesting over the fact that privy called the palestenians animals" I'm guessing you would like to see me murdering, bombing, burning effigies- the way muslims usually "protest" fairly mild and innocuous statements. And, btw, if he's referring to the PLO, specifically, then I agree with him- animals.
sorenkierkegaard2008 2 years ago
People in the west Sukk: no doubt about it. And in the end, they will get what they deserve and will indeed envy Israel for its intelligence and strength to make EXCEPTIONALLY DIFFICULT decisions in dealing the the palistinians. These people DO NOT want peace: TODAY abbas rejected the settlement freeze (and he's supposed to be a moderate?) The palis were given free land and welfare and CHOSE warefare for 60 years. NO country would put up with that. Fukkk the palestinians, they are animals.
privyzone 2 years ago
I hear you, man. You're talking to a bunch of brickwalls, though. You get these UN-crazed, "pacifist", liberal media infobabes doing movies like this, not knowing a damn thing they're talking about, making an emotional argument about the whole thing, swallowing psychotic PLO, muslim brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah propaganda whole without even questioning it, reinforced by dimwit college campus anarchists here in the U.S. and you can't make them give up their fantasy version of reality.
sorenkierkegaard2008 2 years ago
@privyzone Your the animal and your the idiot for generalizing an entire group of people under one banner. To generalize is to be stupid, and you by far are the stupidest person in the comment page.
yazooii 2 years ago
That was just a single example of the preposterous claims made in this video.
If I had the patience to go over each one, I could probably refute most others, but this delusional video simply doesn't merit more of my attention.
dusagie 2 years ago 2
Amen to that. I don't even know if I have the patience to finish it. You gotta love how they start the video out talking about how "what you're about to see, is the side of the story you won't hear", blah, blah, blah, blah. Excuse me, but this is about the ONLY side of the story you ever hear in the west. We're constantly innundated with this crap and they have the gall to talk about it like they're doing some kind of underground reporting on it, when really IT is just unquestioned propaganda.
sorenkierkegaard2008 2 years ago
@sorenkierkegaard2008 Excuse you! have you ever been under military occupation? Have you ever even stepped foot in the middle east? Actually talked to an arab? No I didnt think so. Eat the crap your mainstream media feeds you, believe your smarter than others, and die (hopefully soon) but what you say cant and wont change anything because your just an idiot in the midst of a million other idiots, congratulations you conformist pig.
yazooii 2 years ago
For example, at 2:50 somebody claims the objective of the settlements is to make Palestinians leave Israel.
Truth is that it would've been a really bad strategy. Palestinian population is so large you have to be severely delusional to actually believe it's going anywhere! And that's without considering that no other arab country would accept Palestinians, had they left Israel, or the fact that due to procreation rate of Palestinians, Israeli population will be dwarfed within a two generations.
dusagie 2 years ago 2
@dusagie Why the fuck else would they do this?
taostoner1 7 months ago
I consider myself to be an open-minded individual, but I stopped watching this BS after part 1 plus 3 minutes of part 2.
Makers of this video claim to be showing the truth, but all you do is present a very warped and tendentious view on matters, sprinkled with some lies (or delusions, however you want to call it), very far from being even close to objective.
In fact, some the claims and "conclusions" made in the video are downright ridiculous, and fail to withstand any logical analysis.
dusagie 2 years ago
The more I read and learn about Israel/Palestine, the more I realize how unjust the Israeli settlements are. The Israeli people who insist the entire land is for them are the worst. The Palestinians who resort to violence are the same who suffer the most.
elheber 2 years ago
And Israel form civilization is one of most advanced civilizations in the world!!! In 60 years, Israelis does, that NO ONE does before! So where is the truth??? Huh... Palestiniens just won't live in peace. Welcome to reality show: Go through any City, town of Israel, and try to go to Ramallah, or Jenin... of corse, don't try to do that, aspecially if u jewish... That a truth.
borisrainesh 2 years ago
I really don't understand what the hell you are saying but I remember God did cast you out or else you wouldn't have been scattered around Europe. You invaded there first. It doesn't belong to Israelis. There will be justice and Israel will pay.
OuiTresJolie 2 years ago
wtf!??? Jewish don't need promises from any one, they has on homeland forever, in the past, and in the future, and it's land here, were the todays israel stand. If some one want to live in your home, so he need to respect your culture and traditions. Jewish never looking home in any other place, where was palestinians before Moses??? WHO IS PALESTINIANS? Palestiniansare people that do not respect civilization in Israel forms.
borisrainesh 2 years ago
You are an idiot. You know very well even from the Tanakh that the Jews killed to take over that land then God cast you out. Now zionists went to the land that was occupied by people and take took their homes and are killing Palestinians. Are you saying these people are lying and that the news are lying. I think you have mental issues.
OuiTresJolie 2 years ago
The truth will never be televised. It will never be accepted by the meanstream media. You wont find it being taught to your children. It can not and will not be uttered by a cable news analyst or by your local politician. The truth is non refundable & negotiable. The truth - if accepted - in its purest form is an instant ingredient for the awakening of humankind.... The TRUTH is forbidden!
Streetslogic 2 years ago 4
And what, in your opinion, is the truth, my friend?
sorenkierkegaard2008 2 years ago
My opinion is that Zionist used the holocaust, blew it ever so out of proportion., and used United states backin to take over a portion of the Palestinian land.. ok thats alright.. but then , the greedy motha fukaz that they are.. they kept expanding their borders. and keep acting like we should feel sorry for these bitches like they were they ones being killed. BULL SHIT. i have jewish friends.. nothin against jews.. this is about the Zionist movement. FUK YALL FAGOtS.
DontfearNoMan 2 years ago 10
Right, because Israel has never given back any land... And hey, here's a question, did any muslim countries ever illegally seize Gaza and the West Bank? If so, where was the outrage from Yasser Arafat and the PLO when that happened?
sorenkierkegaard2008 2 years ago
@DontfearNoMan
well said. there have been many holocausts in the world. in america you only learn about
the "Jewish Holocaust". it is blown wayt out of proportion. How many people have heard of Holodomor in America?
I bet not even 10 percent.
Why because of the zionist run american media which brainwashed the living soul out of every american and millions of people outside.
ssj4gogetassj4 1 year ago