Also, just as a little aside, I was walking through Brixton just this morning to get the tube and couldn't help thinking that this is where Stringer/Idris used to live...Also, has anyone ever heard of anyone else called Avon? Is it possible that the writers named him after Avon, the greatest character from Blake's 7? Who knows? Possibly...I've probably watched too much tv...
@BigEnos001 there was a real Avon Barksdale who was a Baltimore gangster. In the Wire, Avon was modeled after several gang leaders, including Melvin Williams
Wow, this post is a blast from the past. Thanks MrZugga, I imagined he and other characters were amalgams of real people, but didn't realise the name was real. I'm not at all surprised when you consider the number of characters in Deadwood that were based on real people, even their names. Not only was there a real Gem Saloon (although I think it was called the Gem Theatre) but it was really run by a man named Al Swearingen. Actually more of the characters were based on real people than not.
I remember the genuine one-two gut punches of seeing this scene for the first time. First the unexpected provoked confession/retort and then even more remarkably that the writers allowed Avon to accept the truth of Stringer's words when a more predictable show would have had him retaliate without thinking there and then. Characters revealing their true natures gradually and confounding expectation was just one of the genius things about The Wire.
That's the best scene that I have ever watched on a TV series. That is modern day Shakespeare. I love Stringer's attitude change when Avon mocks him by asking what life has he snatched.
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Stringer was weak, self absorbed trying to be a business man without the intellectual triumph to pull it off. He has NO loyalty other than to himself whatsoever, no fuckin code breakin the Sunday morning rule- did he get tortured before he died? lets hope so - and he is observably THE worst kisser on the planet anybody see the scene with Ds ex where they got it on? -poor girl!
You have got to be kidding me!! That was one of the best Stringer Bell scenes ever! Whoever the chick is that played Donnette is one lucky girl. Women all over pretty much melted when this came on. Are you blind??
Stringer was a mastermind, but....they were too deep in the street... Avon realized what String was saying after his death... Avon is still "that nigga" though...
No doubt.. String pretty much had them legit but Avon wouldn't let go of that street mentality. Clay Davis got him for 250K but at the end of the day, that's nothing to them. They make that back in a week or so.
Stringer was the best character that they had on the wire I mean he was so calculating and sinister it was sad tat he had to go but he snitched and tried to reform the drug trade in baltimore and those were mistakes.
Brother Mouzone had ties with Avon's New York connection and if Avon hadn't of gave Stringer up, he would have lost his reputation with the connect. Then again, Stringer was making the step towards making their money and business legal and they wouldn't need any drug connections. But Avon was still attached to being the King of The Streets and too much had happened between the two for them to move foward. So giving String up was all he could do.
you know what I think the begining of the for Barsdales was when they killed Omar boyfriend Brandon because after that they lost there 3 top soldiers Wee bey, Stikum and Bird
Nah.. Avon knew Stringer was right about D.. he had to go.. he was mad at first but he got over that. He didn't have a choice but to give Stringer to Mouzone, otherwise he would never be able to do business in NYC again.
thats not true. even after this scene avon was willing to forgive stringer. he even lied to brianna (d'angelo's mother) about d's death. avon had to give up stringer cuz brother mouzone wanted revenge for being set up by stringer in season 2. avon tried to payoff mouzone in order to save stringer, but mouzone needed to kill him.
yea it make you wonder if stringer was the man and avon was the second in command how diffrent thing would be because stringer was more of a thinker and avon was more of a soldier
I'm stunned that McNullty and Stringer Bell are British..Just like Ian McShane from Deadwood...unbelievable.
WiseGuy5674 1 year ago
Because I dink before I snatch a life. Do you dink before you snatch a life Stringer?
lildwayne21 2 years ago
Also, just as a little aside, I was walking through Brixton just this morning to get the tube and couldn't help thinking that this is where Stringer/Idris used to live...Also, has anyone ever heard of anyone else called Avon? Is it possible that the writers named him after Avon, the greatest character from Blake's 7? Who knows? Possibly...I've probably watched too much tv...
BigEnos001 3 years ago
@BigEnos001 there was a real Avon Barksdale who was a Baltimore gangster. In the Wire, Avon was modeled after several gang leaders, including Melvin Williams
MrZugga 2 years ago
Wow, this post is a blast from the past. Thanks MrZugga, I imagined he and other characters were amalgams of real people, but didn't realise the name was real. I'm not at all surprised when you consider the number of characters in Deadwood that were based on real people, even their names. Not only was there a real Gem Saloon (although I think it was called the Gem Theatre) but it was really run by a man named Al Swearingen. Actually more of the characters were based on real people than not.
BigEnos001 2 years ago
I remember the genuine one-two gut punches of seeing this scene for the first time. First the unexpected provoked confession/retort and then even more remarkably that the writers allowed Avon to accept the truth of Stringer's words when a more predictable show would have had him retaliate without thinking there and then. Characters revealing their true natures gradually and confounding expectation was just one of the genius things about The Wire.
BigEnos001 3 years ago 2
the best scene ever created on television...movies...anything....awesome...long live the mother fuckin Wire
jmac220022 3 years ago 3
That's the best scene that I have ever watched on a TV series. That is modern day Shakespeare. I love Stringer's attitude change when Avon mocks him by asking what life has he snatched.
gtpirate02 3 years ago 6
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Stringer was weak, self absorbed trying to be a business man without the intellectual triumph to pull it off. He has NO loyalty other than to himself whatsoever, no fuckin code breakin the Sunday morning rule- did he get tortured before he died? lets hope so - and he is observably THE worst kisser on the planet anybody see the scene with Ds ex where they got it on? -poor girl!
BansheeIrishBitch 4 years ago
You have got to be kidding me!! That was one of the best Stringer Bell scenes ever! Whoever the chick is that played Donnette is one lucky girl. Women all over pretty much melted when this came on. Are you blind??
saninbham 3 years ago
Stringer was a mastermind, but....they were too deep in the street... Avon realized what String was saying after his death... Avon is still "that nigga" though...
Romelus69 4 years ago
No doubt.. String pretty much had them legit but Avon wouldn't let go of that street mentality. Clay Davis got him for 250K but at the end of the day, that's nothing to them. They make that back in a week or so.
bigdog1002 3 years ago 4
i just saw the trailer for the final season and i guess avon is coming back! just a shame stringer aint around no more..
RestAssured77 4 years ago
"you know what the difference between me and you is? i bleed red you bleed green" love that line.
lakersr2cool 4 years ago
Stringer was the best character that they had on the wire I mean he was so calculating and sinister it was sad tat he had to go but he snitched and tried to reform the drug trade in baltimore and those were mistakes.
mymanjay 4 years ago 9
Brother Mouzone had ties with Avon's New York connection and if Avon hadn't of gave Stringer up, he would have lost his reputation with the connect. Then again, Stringer was making the step towards making their money and business legal and they wouldn't need any drug connections. But Avon was still attached to being the King of The Streets and too much had happened between the two for them to move foward. So giving String up was all he could do.
WhosTheKilla 4 years ago
you know what I think the begining of the for Barsdales was when they killed Omar boyfriend Brandon because after that they lost there 3 top soldiers Wee bey, Stikum and Bird
Deriv44 4 years ago
Yeah, I agree with you on that point. I think it was a combination of both reasons why Avon gave up Stringer to Mouzone.
aharris82 4 years ago
Nah.. Avon knew Stringer was right about D.. he had to go.. he was mad at first but he got over that. He didn't have a choice but to give Stringer to Mouzone, otherwise he would never be able to do business in NYC again.
bigdog1002 3 years ago 2
This scene was the reason why Avon gave up Stringer to Brother Mouzone and Omar,
aharris82 4 years ago
thats not true. even after this scene avon was willing to forgive stringer. he even lied to brianna (d'angelo's mother) about d's death. avon had to give up stringer cuz brother mouzone wanted revenge for being set up by stringer in season 2. avon tried to payoff mouzone in order to save stringer, but mouzone needed to kill him.
bmore808 4 years ago 3
Stringer is smarter
jv758 4 years ago
yea it make you wonder if stringer was the man and avon was the second in command how diffrent thing would be because stringer was more of a thinker and avon was more of a soldier
Deriv44 4 years ago
This was the moment I knew that the Barksdale Crew was going down
amensupremera 4 years ago