When Argentina high command decided to start a war in the Falklands, I don't think they even considered that the UK still had this long-range bomber and would use it against them....
@Atrollin2 I agree. From what I know there were voices in Arg Gov saying dont do this but they were not listened to.
Even Jeanne Kirpatrick, our UN amb. @ the time, and no friend of England, said later she got impression that Arg Gov didnt really grasp what they had started.
She told their attaches bluntly that the English were going to defeat them & knew how to win.
But they did not listen.
Also, 99% of us were behind you guys all the way. Dont listen to the dirtbags....
@Ca1861 But those with even the slightest intelligence were shoved to the back, as it is with any dictatorship. I'm glad that Argentina started the war, destroying them as we did is still a proud moment.
The US though, was very good to us during the war, which really, we here should be more thankful for.
I think most people here feel the same way as I do, it's just that we also have a small minority of dirtbags...
Do you all know that yesterday an islander born in Malvinas, son of an islander who fought in the conflict of 1982, became an Argentine citizen? He was born in the islands in 1968 and as you all know, the islands are Argentine territory and are part of the Government of Tierra del Fuego so naturally, he applied for the argentine nationality since he is an argentine citizen after all.
@cargoairliner XM597 is a war veteran, it was in BLACK BUCK 5. Although if you want total historic accuracy you might ask for XM607, with different time of day and bombing altitude - the video above was just a tech test, and therefore, a/c serial number, time of day and altitude where not based on any specific BB sortie.
"Falklands", that's the only name of the islands. I'm not having any of this 'Malvinas' shit considering it's a word the Argies stole from the French.
U U U U U U scares me? I'm so scared. They know that in reality gave no pump. Bombings were ineffective in the war. JA: Fearing had to ask for help from your older child to do this. They are cowards and thieves that take the genes from history.
@elbuscahuellas Innefective how? They made damn sure the Mirage jets were kept on the mainland to protect that - confirmed after the war by Argentine officials. The point was not just to hit the airfield. It was not lost on the Junta that if a Vulcan could reach Stanley, it could reach Buenos Aries. And they would have no way of knowing whether or not it had 1000lb'ers or something with a little more "oomph" until it got there...
@srm79 ah a man of intelligence. Quite right not about putting 21 1000lb bombs on Stanley but more about the distance at which they could be delivered. Some times you have to look at why some military targets are sought and what objective they wish to achieve. On this occasion the aim was to tell Argentina that the main land could be attacked from Ascension the delivery of the bombs was just a bonus.
I think thats a bit of RAF PR tbh. It would have been madness to bring a vulcan into the range of land based fighters to attack the mainland. While impressive as a feat of aviation. Tactically, the black buck raid don't make much sense in the cold light of day. All that effort (and fuel) would have better used for something else, like getting more harriers, or choppers in theater. Or 260 Sea Harrier bombing missions over Port Stanley according to Sharky Ward.
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@marianodeanquin Thanks, yes I've did this model in particular, and the cockpits, the Sea Harrier and others. Ariel Cancio from Argentina did Mirages, Super Etendard, a lot of warships and will be tasked with the airbases layout.
la pista estuvo operable hasta el 14 de junio , dia de la rendicion argentina, nunca pero nunca dejo de estar operable la pista, los argentinos tenian crateres dibujados removibles colocaban de dia en esa pista , hicieron creer que los bombardeos fueron efectivos, horas antes de rendirse argentina despego el ultimo c 130 de ese aeropuerto.
Due, we never should have taken the falkland/malvinas! Just search Falklands how close to defeat on youtube and you will see actually how good Argentina were. But we were still better because there is no escaping the fact that we won (It was very close though)
I would love for us to battle it out again :D I don't know how busy Argentina's schedule is.
@alex471996 Get a grip - the fact that a military junta looking to prop up flagging home support decided to send a largely conscript army out to British territory, and then shat themselves after we sailed 8000 miles and took them back, tells you that (a) our troops were better trained and equipped, and (b) the Argies were not that good. Besides, now there is the prospect of oil money down there!
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Well thank you for your view on the matter but the simple fact is that you had them, we invaded them and then you decided to retake them and FAILED. You can't call us girls when you lost a war that we should have lost. I am well aware that we should have lost and why we won, it was sheer luck.
Whom ever the islands belong to, one thing is sure the only thing that will make us budge is military action!
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@alex471996 They never had them. The Spanish found them, then the French came along and set up camp. We turned up and had a bit of a scrap with the French the Spanish for them. Then the Spanish buggered off, nobody really lived there apart from whalers and fishermen, then we went back and took them back again. Never, ever have they been owned by the Argies. So they weren't retaking them, they were invading someone else's sovereign territory. We have had a bit more practice at war though!
There is something VERY hollow in the Argentinean argument. Even IF Argentina was right (they're not), they fought for a nationalistic emotional ideal, rocks, mud and peat in the sea, a 200 year colonial dispute. The UK fought for more, the rights of a people born there and who's ancestors have been there for generations and are buried there, who want to stay there and live as they have always lived. Who call the Falklands home and know no other home. A population who have subjugated no one..
(Cont) The UK defended them on the principle that force by fascists cannot succeed NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED 200 YEARS AGO! The world is now and has to be more civilised. Is it that the European descendents who reside in the Argentines have more rights than the kelpers although THEY themselves are a legacy of a past injustice? The UK conducted a just defence to protect the kelpers, their right to live in their homeland from a regime that murders 30,000 of it own people and calls it judicial.
(cont) Argentina also claims sovereignty to South Georgia and South Sandwich islands and have NEVER had a historic right to these islands but claim them because they are dependencies administered from the Falklands. (dependency is for UK administrative purposes ONLY) Why the Argentinean claim? Because they're close? I'm sorry, but if that isn't aggressive territorial expansion then what the bloody hell is? How about more of Paraguay? Argentina still occupies some of their land the hypocrites
(cont) Argentina protests each year to the UN decolonisation committee and is rejected. Surely the people of that country must realise then that there is something blatantly wrong? Juan Perons distortion of the truths, decades of lies, media misinformation and continued on by fascist totalitarian regimes are still taught in the schools as fact. NO historian in Argentina DARE revise this in a nation where fanatical patriotism is the norm and such criticism can even get you killed...
(cont) And if the UK is considered to be one of the few colonial powers, then Argentina can take that argument to the Mapucha people and others of the Pampas and desert colonies they call "regions". Decades of indoctrination exploitation and extermination by people like Roccas have stolen from "Los Indios" their independence, their identity, left them with nothing and forced them to be Argentinean. They never had the democratic freedom to choose. A legacy of Argentina's colonial expansion...
(cont) The European peoples of the Americas have been TOTALLY successful . Argentina doesn't even acknowledge past wrongs as the US has admitted to its aboriginal people in that nations colonial expansion westward. At least the UK left its colonies with their identity AND in allot of cases, positive as well as negative legacies. I know, my mother is one of those colonial subjects. "Those who have not sinned cast the first stone" BUT "People who live in glass houses should never throw stones"
And dont play the Britian is an evil imperialist card. When Argentina itself is a result of Spanish imperialism. And dont forget that Argentina shared history with Britiain, infact many of the buildings in Buenos aires are built from Manchester brick and British architecture. Arentina also have many Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English immigrant populations. They were a fascist nation for some years, and they were/are a safe haven for Nazis.
@cityflyguy "Arentina also have many Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English immigrant populations. " se nota q no sos mas pelotudo xq no te dan cuerda,de donde carancho sakas estos datos putito?
The Falkland islands were in existence before Argentina existed as a nation. Buenos aires is as far from the islands as Britain is from Turkey, and they are about 300 miles from the Argentina mainland. The people inhabiting the islands want to remain British and have been British for hundreds of years. Argentina has no right to the islands at all. I hope that there is no war, it resulted in death and injury for both sides. And subsequent mental health problems resulting in many suicides.
@cityflyguy "The Falkland islands were in existence before Argentina existed as a nation." obvio que EXISTIAN o akaso pensas q las hizo un tipo o un extraterrestre o un....ingles....?
Las Islas Malvinas formaron parte del área bajo jurisdicción de España desde la entrada en vigor de los primeros instrumentos internacionales que delimitaron el "Nuevo Mundo" poco después del descubrimiento de 1492. Las Bulas Pontificias y el Tratado de Tordesillas de 1494 constituyen los primeros instrumentos que receptan títulos de España de acuerdo con el derecho internacional de la época.
Las Islas Malvinas formaron parte del área bajo jurisdicción de España desde la entrada en vigor de los primeros instrumentos internacionales que delimitaron el "Nuevo Mundo" poco después del descubrimiento de 1492. Las Bulas Pontificias y el Tratado de Tordesillas de 1494 constituyen los primeros instrumentos que receptan títulos de España de acuerdo con el derecho internacional de la época.
Yes of course a Papal edict splitting the New World between Spain and Portugal carrys real weight in the modern world the same act that effectively gave Japan to Portugal really makes sense .
UK IS BROKE! They need our land and our oil! They need always to steal and abuse others countries with the help of the United Nation! US and Europe!
This news in in the newspaper!Así, el endeudamiento del sector público en 2008 fue de 99,2% del PIB en Grecia, 52% en Gran Bretaña y 39.7% en España.
@bazman85 you won the Falklands War by luck, and that Chileans betrayed us ... but do not worry British fag! we're going back! but this time we will not be under a dictatorship.
Remember that the enemies have more than you think
and seeing you are no longer under a dictatorship you will have to fight by the rules and an attack against the falklands will make you the aggressor and instantly make you lose international support
You have more what? You had more troops than us in the first war, you had a huge tactical advantage and you still couldn't beat us, you envy us, you envy the vulcan, thats why your watching this video. FAG
@bazman85 Why would we envy the plane that caused the only two fatal civillian casualties? Yeah thats right. Go check the facts. They never were able to destroy the radar nor the strip, and killed 2 inocent kelper women.
@pk5887 Check my facts? OK the Vulcan rendered port stanley obsolete for fast jets, they jammed radar and you cowards surrenderd not long after, they did minimal damage, but,....the great Argentine army defeated by ONE British battalion! Argentine casualties 635, British casualties 255,.... 12 978 Argentine prisoners were captured.Now the British Harriers deployed with the task force... These fighters shot down 31 Argentine aircraft with no air-to-air losses themselves. Any more facts you need?
@bazman85 Ok we sort of agree regarding the vulcan. Good.
That aside, i dont like counting casualties. Its necessary but its a very relative thing. Half the argentine deaths were in the sinking of the belgrano. Set that war crime aside and we are almost even. Besides youdont count gurkhas or taiwanese deaths as your own. And regarding air combat. The argentine planes' goal was bombing the fleet, not shooting down fighters. That was the brits aim. War is an assymetrical thing. different aims.
@pk5887 Ah the belgrano... well we set an exclusion zone, not my fault if you wern't listening. We didn't count any Gurkha deaths either because you all ran away from them, not one Gurkha died in battle in the Falklands :)
@pk5887 Well,.....use your brain, did you think we would let the belgrano dock at the islands? Really?If you had just asked for the islands back some sort of agreement would probably have been drawn up like in other areas of the empire, but no.Your point stands for nothing, this was not a game of cricket with rules, it was a war. No shame in losing to the UK anyway, your not the first ;)
The 21, 1000 lb bombs were dropped 2 miles from target at the optimum 30 degree angle, with the first one producing an 80ft wide crater. The airfield was still used by supply planes but not by fighter jets. It was a symbolic attack to let the Argies know they were not out of reach and subsequently destroyed the conscrips morale. Read "Vulcan 607" by Rowland white... awesome achievement.
The runway wasn't being used by fighter jets in the first place - it wasn't long enough.
And it didn't just take a Vulcan to let the Argies know they were in range, the Navy were regularly bombing and shelling the airfield throughout much of the war
para las personas q no saben ingles les dije a los ingleses "perdon pero las islas malvinas estan en la plataforma continental argentina ustedes son unos poratas y ladornes "
malvinas dont exsist its the Falklands which was first populated by british then Argentina invaded it when it stole its mainland from Spain. Uk has taken back the Falklands twice from invaders but Argentine teachers only teach properganda history.
Yes, one bomb clipped the side of the runway and Argies tried to repair it but the foundations were badly cracked and Argentina couldn't land their heavy transporters on it for the rest of the war. I did hear they made a fake crater out of mud in the middle of the runway for the benefit of the British spy planes and then removed it when landing their own planes. If anyone else has heard this story I'd love to know if it's true.
I have heard that also, I just cannot remembr which book it was. I think "Air War South Atlantic". The effort it took to fly those missions was enormous but it forced Argentine HQ to include the possible bombing of their mainland in the things they had to try & be ready for. Personally I think if UK had actually bombed mainland Argentina the war, and the death on both sides, would have become much bigger. I think others would have become involved.
Well, I think argentine and british people will never be agree abuot Malvinas...Anyway, I hope our both countries wont be in war never again. The only reason to against each other than I can take is playing soccer games! ;)
and who established the first colony on the Falklands....oh yeah, the British, so technically they're ours. We've beaten you once to keep them, so don't try to take them back by force again, as yet again, you'll lose
What do you mean british people could not win this war? British people did win it! what you are saying makes no sense at all and the Falkland Islands are British. They live under British law and they pay British taxesand it will remain that way for as long as Britain exists. The only way you will take the falklands from us is if you invade and conqour the mainland failing that the islands will never be yours.
pancho I wrote in english to enable our friends to undesrtand it ! I travelled in south america on the war beginning and I was completely puzzled with the cultural and political analphabetism ! some friends asked me, as european, which was my opinion, indeed very simple : y dont hv the slightest idea with which kind of people y enter on colision ! yr arguments are pathetic and the result confirms it : argentina was destroyed on psycological point of view, and has never recovered !
Were a bunch of miserable wet islands in the arse end of the Atlantic with nothing but a few farmers, penquins, seagulls and sheep worth the lives of 900 young Argentinian and British soldiers, sailors and airmen?
A lot of brave men died there but was it really worth it?
If you are serving in the Majesty's armed forces it is your duty to defend the British Empire. As the Falkland IIlse are part of Britain Margerat Thatcher saw it fit to defend it and return it to British hands. People don't sign up to serve without understanding the consequences first.
Quote 'Several more Black Buck missions were flown against the Argentine radars on the islands. Black Buck 2 was a repeat of Black Buck 1 but had less success, with the bombs missing the runway. Black Bucks 3 and 4 were cancelled because of problems with refuelling." The airfield of Stanley was used all the way to the end of the war, this airplanes did not cause any damaged to the airfield.
Black Buck 2 was never intended to hit the runway, it targeted attempts to extend the runway with steel matting. Thanks for the stocks of steel matting btw, came in very handy after the war.
Black Buck 1 was intended to put a stick of bombs across the runway in a 35° cut. It was expected that 1 possibly 2 bombs would hit. It was to deny the use of fast jets, the RAF knew that C-130 would continue to use it.
The bomb didn't land right in the middle - it only just clipped the runway (I've seen a post-strike recce photo, before you ask). And I think it was repaired within 24 hours.
Argentina keep your captured english flags we will keep th falklands end of the day it was ENGLAND 1 Argentina 0 anytime you fancy a rematch we would be well up for it!
the only statistic that counts is, Great Britain 1- argentina 0, also the body count, you lost more. an army of cowards and conscripts didn't stand a chance, even if they were superior in numbers and fighting from prepared defensive positions on their doorstep, against a smaller force 7000 miles from home with limited air cover, argentines are greasy cowards,
BBC "A second, better-resourced invasion followed in May 1807, under Lieutenant-General John Whitelock, attacking Buenos Aires in July. After a couple of days of intense street fighting, the British surrendered to an army it had considered no more than a rabble.
After losing more than half his force, the British signed a ceasefire on 7 July and left for home, where Whitelock was court-martialled and discharged."
We defeated England 1806/1807/1845/ and april-2-1982 ,the counts is 4 to 1
something to remind you of the few days that you were in control of the island, we on the other hand have museums full of your captured planes, anti aircraft guns, small arms and numerous vehicles, plus the islands of course, still flags are better than nothing!
I am very happy that you keep those guns in your museums, that will remind you that with those prehistoric guns we sunk 8 of your best ships which are to large and in the botton of our ocean to keep in any museums.MALVINA ARGENTINAS!!!
I would not say exocet is a prehistoric weapon something the British navy knew all about and feared. 3 of of the 5 Exocets where used to destroy 2 ships something any navy in the world would be hard pressed to defend against at the time.
The British task force were preserving freedom for British people which had been taken away.
England does not care about captured flags??? read this quote from Wikipedia "On this first invasion, the 71st Regiment of Foot lost two flags during the combat, which are currently held in Argentina. On the second invasion, there was a frustrated attempt to recover both flags. They were retaken by the Buenos Aires militia and returned to the Santo Domingo convent. Another two banners from the British Royal Navy are also held in the convent."
Argentine defences breached and the fleet proceeded upstream. But because the British and French couldn't be arsed to keep trouncing the Argentine defences you claim it as a victory.
1982, the only battle that actually counts is the last one.
Quote "Historians believe that the French and British forces intervened in the region to ensure free navigation along the Rio Parana and Rio Uruguay. However, in 1850, both the French and British withdrew after signing a treaty that represented a triumph for Juan Manuel de Rosas of Argentina.[2]"
And history is often distorted by narrow national interests for domestic consumption. A better picture is usually achieved by considering both sides. Sadly something your countrymen are rarely prepared to do.
The sad thing is for us it was a tiny tiny skirmish yet for you it has taken on a significance the size of Waterloo. If we seriously wanted your pissy little shit hole of a country we would take it.
esta guerra nunca termino, ni va a terminar hasta que argentina vuelva a malvinas o tenga la soberania sobre estas tierras nuevamente, desarmaron nuestra FFAA por que se dieron cuenta de lo que era este pais de el 3er mundo que hundio sus novedosos barcos de guerra.. y golpeo a su "Invensible.." Argentina..
The Malvinas were French until he ceded sovereignty to Spain. In 1816 these islands were inherited from Spain to Argentina, until in 1833, invading the UK. We want peace but we can not allow injustice and that part of our land is invaded by England. We will continue to call ourselves. Malvinas are Argentinas
ummmm yeah you just blow up your airfield, I mean??...why blow it when you can take it back in tact...since you have naval support you don't think you can just use paratroopers to cease the airfield and then once captured fly in more troops by C-130....??? or if that don't work paratroopers you can assault with Royal Marines and armored force to land on what look like beaches??...ummmm??? or maybe you can use both in a combined attack.
:-D just messin but if it was that type of game I'd do that
This was a recreation of a real raid that was really nothing more than a psyops mission to show the Argentinians that the British were willing and able to send bombers all the way from the UK if necessary. The raid didn't do any major damage but it did more to effect the confidence and morale of the Argentinians. The distance to the islands from the nearest UK airstrip would have made it extremely difficult to reach with a C-130 and troops (the Hercules has to dive to keep up with a Victor!)
I can admire that feet of achievement of the Brits and all of her majasty's armed forces for going all the way to the Falklands to take back what was there own from what looked on paper a numerical Argentine military on there own turf. Goes to show that the British still got it even when times were hard in UK in the 1980's.
It wasn't psyops, the mission was to destroy the landing strip, in fact John Nott said that very day (01 May) to the international media that the landing strip was destroyed. Galtieri responded, in a hurry, that the landing strip was still operational, the Stanley commander, pissed of, responded to him that it was better to give the british misinformation The destruction of Stanley landing strip was one of the bigest failures of the task force in the entire conflict. They were unable to touch it
What I meant was that the operation succeeded in demoralising the Argentinians than it achieved militarily. It took an enormous effort to put the operation together and the result was only one bomb actually hitting the strip. But all the same British troops stationed off the coast said that the raid made them feel more confident that the British had a powerful force and showed the Argentinians that they could hit targets anywhere, forcing them to keep assets back to defend the mainland.
No they said they'd hit it with a single bomb and produced aerial reconnaissance photos to back it up. The planning for the mission called for a 35° cut across the runway, with the aim of 1possibly 2 hits. There was never any intention to destroy it, the mission was to deny its use to fast jets. And the British were fully aware C-130 would be able to use the runway.
Air Power Doctrine, which you can download from the MoD website, sets this out. Its very difficult to close a runway through bombing, though LGB make it easier. The impact of air attack has a minimal impact. There is a lot of misinformation out about the Black Buck missions. Their intention was to deny not destroy, the airfield would be needed after the war.
Um yeah...when you say "They were unable to touch it" do you mean apart from the 1000 pound bomb that left a crater 84 feet deep? The crater that although quickly filled in continued to subside and ended any chances of flying fast jets from the airstrip? The crater that meant only the C130s (designed for rough landings) could use the strip and it almost caused the loss of one of them? In other words a total (and well documented by both British and Argentinian witnesses) success!
But of course that's just the material damage. This raid convinced the Argentines that the British landing was about to commence so they sent their ships, including the General Belgrano to engage the Royal Navy. After the Belgrano was sunk the Argentine Navy stayed away while the fighter jets that could have affected the war were posted to defend Buenos Aires from a possible Vulcan attack. So this single raid affected the entire outcome of the war.
I have no obligation to write in Eng, so yo continuaré escribiendo en castellano. Las Malvinas son argentinas porque fueron tierras que pertenecía a España, y antes que España eran de Francia (por eso el nombre Malvinas), Francia tras una disputa cede las tierras a España (UK aceptó tal situación), luego cuando se independiza Arg. estas islas pasan a la soberanía Argentina, hasta que en 1833 fueron invadidas por el Reino Unido.
A simple example. Argentina claims that Britain expelled the settlers in 1833 replacing them with British settlers. Except that is a blatant lie, not only were they not expelled but were encouraged to stay. Britain didn't send settlers till 1841.
The Falklands are British and Gibraltar is British simply because that is the clearly expressed desire of the inhabitants, it is guaranteed by Article 73 of the UN Charter and illogical irredentist claims will never change that.
The same reason that made the english reject the falklands renamed into malvinas apply in the Greeks regecting the name of the Greek province of Macedonia to an artificial slavic entity like "former yugoslav republic of macedonia" that is tottaly unrelated to the name and history and heritage of the land.
the world must support the trouth and not two standards
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English go out of our Malvinas. Malvinas were a territory inherited from Spain to Arg, so the Malvinas were invaded in 1833 by UK. We will come back to recover our territory. Malvinas Argentinas por siempre!!! Fuera ingleses de nuestras islas.
When Argentina high command decided to start a war in the Falklands, I don't think they even considered that the UK still had this long-range bomber and would use it against them....
Ca1861 2 months ago
@Ca1861 I don't think they really considered anything when starting the war to be honest, and it cost them quite a bit!
It's good to see some support from Americans here...
Atrollin2 2 months ago
@Atrollin2 I agree. From what I know there were voices in Arg Gov saying dont do this but they were not listened to.
Even Jeanne Kirpatrick, our UN amb. @ the time, and no friend of England, said later she got impression that Arg Gov didnt really grasp what they had started.
She told their attaches bluntly that the English were going to defeat them & knew how to win.
But they did not listen.
Also, 99% of us were behind you guys all the way. Dont listen to the dirtbags....
Ca1861 2 months ago
@Ca1861 But those with even the slightest intelligence were shoved to the back, as it is with any dictatorship. I'm glad that Argentina started the war, destroying them as we did is still a proud moment.
The US though, was very good to us during the war, which really, we here should be more thankful for.
I think most people here feel the same way as I do, it's just that we also have a small minority of dirtbags...
Atrollin2 2 months ago
To depatta, how do you open the bomb bay doors on the iris Vulcan and how do you drop exploding bombs?
GreatBritain1916 4 months ago
how do you drop the bombs ?
teddymcdermott12345 5 months ago
Mission accomplished. Argentina know the mainland is within reach and will be wiped from the map by British nuclear strike.
P1mpMyBr1de 6 months ago
Please change the title of the video. They are the Falkland Islands.
edj66 7 months ago
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Do you all know that yesterday an islander born in Malvinas, son of an islander who fought in the conflict of 1982, became an Argentine citizen? He was born in the islands in 1968 and as you all know, the islands are Argentine territory and are part of the Government of Tierra del Fuego so naturally, he applied for the argentine nationality since he is an argentine citizen after all.
One day we will celebrate all together.
Malvinas Argentinas y Sudamericanas.
111jasy111 7 months ago
How did you get this bombing mission?
Did you download it?
upernoe 9 months ago
the aircraft is wrong xM597 wasnt used for iron bombing or indeed BLACK BUCK during the falklands
cargoairliner 1 year ago
@cargoairliner XM597 is a war veteran, it was in BLACK BUCK 5. Although if you want total historic accuracy you might ask for XM607, with different time of day and bombing altitude - the video above was just a tech test, and therefore, a/c serial number, time of day and altitude where not based on any specific BB sortie.
depatta 1 year ago
@depatta where can i get this sim please? I'd love to try it out
mathewtaylor 11 months ago
@depatta ahh but XM597 only fired that missile i can't remember the name of and it never attacked the actual airfield.
cargoairliner 6 months ago
"Falklands", that's the only name of the islands. I'm not having any of this 'Malvinas' shit considering it's a word the Argies stole from the French.
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javiargcba 1 year ago
The oil in the Falklands is very low quality, expensive additives needed to carry it on quality.
Do not lie closer to its citizens.
It is the same as the continent very bad low quality.
They do not lie.
elbuscahuellas 1 year ago
U U U U U U scares me? I'm so scared. They know that in reality gave no pump. Bombings were ineffective in the war. JA: Fearing had to ask for help from your older child to do this. They are cowards and thieves that take the genes from history.
elbuscahuellas 1 year ago
@elbuscahuellas Innefective how? They made damn sure the Mirage jets were kept on the mainland to protect that - confirmed after the war by Argentine officials. The point was not just to hit the airfield. It was not lost on the Junta that if a Vulcan could reach Stanley, it could reach Buenos Aries. And they would have no way of knowing whether or not it had 1000lb'ers or something with a little more "oomph" until it got there...
srm79 1 year ago
@srm79 ah a man of intelligence. Quite right not about putting 21 1000lb bombs on Stanley but more about the distance at which they could be delivered. Some times you have to look at why some military targets are sought and what objective they wish to achieve. On this occasion the aim was to tell Argentina that the main land could be attacked from Ascension the delivery of the bombs was just a bonus.
chaz01br 1 year ago 2
I think thats a bit of RAF PR tbh. It would have been madness to bring a vulcan into the range of land based fighters to attack the mainland. While impressive as a feat of aviation. Tactically, the black buck raid don't make much sense in the cold light of day. All that effort (and fuel) would have better used for something else, like getting more harriers, or choppers in theater. Or 260 Sea Harrier bombing missions over Port Stanley according to Sharky Ward.
sparky191 1 year ago
@chaz01br Well said. The point was to destroy morale any damage was a bonus.
triumph1974 10 months ago
A team of air cadets from 1122 (Marmion) Squadron ATC will be cycling 30 miles on the 12th of June, from their squadron HQ to DCAE Cosford in Shropshire to raise money for XH558 - you can help support them here! -
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michaelosbornemusic 1 year ago
@depatta and watt are the software used to build the model?
And it takes many hours of work to build virtual models?,
thanks teacher, very good work, Congrat to You and Ariel Cancio
marianodeanquin 1 year ago
very nice the models, you are the developer of the models?
marianodeanquin 1 year ago
@marianodeanquin Thanks, yes I've did this model in particular, and the cockpits, the Sea Harrier and others. Ariel Cancio from Argentina did Mirages, Super Etendard, a lot of warships and will be tasked with the airbases layout.
depatta 1 year ago
answer= saia90, comingg soon
marianodeanquin 1 year ago
la pista estuvo operable hasta el 14 de junio , dia de la rendicion argentina, nunca pero nunca dejo de estar operable la pista, los argentinos tenian crateres dibujados removibles colocaban de dia en esa pista , hicieron creer que los bombardeos fueron efectivos, horas antes de rendirse argentina despego el ultimo c 130 de ese aeropuerto.
pjdcargentina 1 year ago
Due, we never should have taken the falkland/malvinas! Just search Falklands how close to defeat on youtube and you will see actually how good Argentina were. But we were still better because there is no escaping the fact that we won (It was very close though)
I would love for us to battle it out again :D I don't know how busy Argentina's schedule is.
alex471996 1 year ago
@alex471996 Get a grip - the fact that a military junta looking to prop up flagging home support decided to send a largely conscript army out to British territory, and then shat themselves after we sailed 8000 miles and took them back, tells you that (a) our troops were better trained and equipped, and (b) the Argies were not that good. Besides, now there is the prospect of oil money down there!
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KGBfbiSECUpolitia 1 year ago
@KGBfbiSECUpolitia
Well thank you for your view on the matter but the simple fact is that you had them, we invaded them and then you decided to retake them and FAILED. You can't call us girls when you lost a war that we should have lost. I am well aware that we should have lost and why we won, it was sheer luck.
Whom ever the islands belong to, one thing is sure the only thing that will make us budge is military action!
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KGBfbiSECUpolitia 1 year ago
@KGBfbiSECUpolitia Look here: More argentinians have HIV than UK citizens... and cou have only about 60% of the population, too. Yeah, very 'clean'... GROW UP. Work on your democracy instead of youtube, as it's only two decades old!
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KGBfbiSECUpolitia 1 year ago
@KGBfbiSECUpolitia Learn to speak English, spick
digireedoo 1 year ago
@alex471996 They never had them. The Spanish found them, then the French came along and set up camp. We turned up and had a bit of a scrap with the French the Spanish for them. Then the Spanish buggered off, nobody really lived there apart from whalers and fishermen, then we went back and took them back again. Never, ever have they been owned by the Argies. So they weren't retaking them, they were invading someone else's sovereign territory. We have had a bit more practice at war though!
srm79 1 year ago
@alex471996 Sheer luck... and a CONSCRIPT army versus a professional one (+Navy / RMC +Airforce).
Saighton 1 year ago
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ivanexocet 1 year ago
ahahha ingleses de mierda fuck england !!!!
alanmasqpiola 1 year ago
vuela bajo el dibujo jajajaja
No mientan mas ingleses ! jajaajaj
Vamos a volver !
malvinizado 1 year ago 2
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There is something VERY hollow in the Argentinean argument. Even IF Argentina was right (they're not), they fought for a nationalistic emotional ideal, rocks, mud and peat in the sea, a 200 year colonial dispute. The UK fought for more, the rights of a people born there and who's ancestors have been there for generations and are buried there, who want to stay there and live as they have always lived. Who call the Falklands home and know no other home. A population who have subjugated no one..
likeitout 1 year ago
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(Cont) The UK defended them on the principle that force by fascists cannot succeed NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED 200 YEARS AGO! The world is now and has to be more civilised. Is it that the European descendents who reside in the Argentines have more rights than the kelpers although THEY themselves are a legacy of a past injustice? The UK conducted a just defence to protect the kelpers, their right to live in their homeland from a regime that murders 30,000 of it own people and calls it judicial.
likeitout 1 year ago
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(cont) Argentina also claims sovereignty to South Georgia and South Sandwich islands and have NEVER had a historic right to these islands but claim them because they are dependencies administered from the Falklands. (dependency is for UK administrative purposes ONLY) Why the Argentinean claim? Because they're close? I'm sorry, but if that isn't aggressive territorial expansion then what the bloody hell is? How about more of Paraguay? Argentina still occupies some of their land the hypocrites
likeitout 1 year ago
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(cont) Argentina protests each year to the UN decolonisation committee and is rejected. Surely the people of that country must realise then that there is something blatantly wrong? Juan Perons distortion of the truths, decades of lies, media misinformation and continued on by fascist totalitarian regimes are still taught in the schools as fact. NO historian in Argentina DARE revise this in a nation where fanatical patriotism is the norm and such criticism can even get you killed...
likeitout 1 year ago
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(cont) And if the UK is considered to be one of the few colonial powers, then Argentina can take that argument to the Mapucha people and others of the Pampas and desert colonies they call "regions". Decades of indoctrination exploitation and extermination by people like Roccas have stolen from "Los Indios" their independence, their identity, left them with nothing and forced them to be Argentinean. They never had the democratic freedom to choose. A legacy of Argentina's colonial expansion...
likeitout 1 year ago
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(cont) The European peoples of the Americas have been TOTALLY successful . Argentina doesn't even acknowledge past wrongs as the US has admitted to its aboriginal people in that nations colonial expansion westward. At least the UK left its colonies with their identity AND in allot of cases, positive as well as negative legacies. I know, my mother is one of those colonial subjects. "Those who have not sinned cast the first stone" BUT "People who live in glass houses should never throw stones"
likeitout 1 year ago
And dont play the Britian is an evil imperialist card. When Argentina itself is a result of Spanish imperialism. And dont forget that Argentina shared history with Britiain, infact many of the buildings in Buenos aires are built from Manchester brick and British architecture. Arentina also have many Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English immigrant populations. They were a fascist nation for some years, and they were/are a safe haven for Nazis.
cityflyguy 1 year ago 3
@cityflyguy, Well said, well said indeed sir.
likeitout 1 year ago
@cityflyguy "Arentina also have many Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English immigrant populations. " se nota q no sos mas pelotudo xq no te dan cuerda,de donde carancho sakas estos datos putito?
corporacionmonstruo 1 year ago
The Falkland islands were in existence before Argentina existed as a nation. Buenos aires is as far from the islands as Britain is from Turkey, and they are about 300 miles from the Argentina mainland. The people inhabiting the islands want to remain British and have been British for hundreds of years. Argentina has no right to the islands at all. I hope that there is no war, it resulted in death and injury for both sides. And subsequent mental health problems resulting in many suicides.
cityflyguy 1 year ago 2
@cityflyguy "The Falkland islands were in existence before Argentina existed as a nation." obvio que EXISTIAN o akaso pensas q las hizo un tipo o un extraterrestre o un....ingles....?
corporacionmonstruo 1 year ago
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Antecedentes históricos
Las Islas Malvinas formaron parte del área bajo jurisdicción de España desde la entrada en vigor de los primeros instrumentos internacionales que delimitaron el "Nuevo Mundo" poco después del descubrimiento de 1492. Las Bulas Pontificias y el Tratado de Tordesillas de 1494 constituyen los primeros instrumentos que receptan títulos de España de acuerdo con el derecho internacional de la época.
romeas100 1 year ago
el bulcan ...nunca pudo hacer que " la pista de puerto argentino " dejara de funcionar ....viva ARGENTINA
ivanexocet 1 year ago
Antecedentes históricos
Las Islas Malvinas formaron parte del área bajo jurisdicción de España desde la entrada en vigor de los primeros instrumentos internacionales que delimitaron el "Nuevo Mundo" poco después del descubrimiento de 1492. Las Bulas Pontificias y el Tratado de Tordesillas de 1494 constituyen los primeros instrumentos que receptan títulos de España de acuerdo con el derecho internacional de la época.
romeas100 1 year ago
Yes of course a Papal edict splitting the New World between Spain and Portugal carrys real weight in the modern world the same act that effectively gave Japan to Portugal really makes sense .
iroscoe 1 year ago 2
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UK IS BROKE! They need our land and our oil! They need always to steal and abuse others countries with the help of the United Nation! US and Europe!
This news in in the newspaper!Así, el endeudamiento del sector público en 2008 fue de 99,2% del PIB en Grecia, 52% en Gran Bretaña y 39.7% en España.
romeas100 1 year ago
Argentina's military could not win a wAr to save their lives that's why nobody wants to live their. Dumb Argie faggits
XSRBL4D3 1 year ago 3
Argentina belongs to Spain give agentina back to Spain you argie pirates.
NielsShoe 1 year ago
@NielsShoe Argentina belongs to Madagascar.
war77inc 1 year ago
ja ja ja , nunca LOGRARON que puerto argentino , dejara de funcionar ...ja ja
ivanexocet 2 years ago
British fag's.. they want war because they are the sons of daddy usa. But dont worry, we will be back for our islands..
Una injusticia de este tipo se va a pagar con su sangre y con la chilena tambien..
VAMOS A VOLVER, pero cuando volvamos no vamos a estar bajo una dictadura.
ronch0 2 years ago
ha ha ha ha....Our islands can you see the Union Jack from where you are???? ha ha ha.
bannon1000 2 years ago 9
ha ha ha BRITAIN DOES NOT NEED USA, WE DIDN'T THE FIRST TIME WE SPILT ARGIE PIG BLOOD!!!
bazman85 1 year ago
@bazman85 you won the Falklands War by luck, and that Chileans betrayed us ... but do not worry British fag! we're going back! but this time we will not be under a dictatorship.
Remember that the enemies have more than you think
ronch0 1 year ago
and seeing you are no longer under a dictatorship you will have to fight by the rules and an attack against the falklands will make you the aggressor and instantly make you lose international support
xASxDragoon 1 year ago 3
You have more what? You had more troops than us in the first war, you had a huge tactical advantage and you still couldn't beat us, you envy us, you envy the vulcan, thats why your watching this video. FAG
bazman85 1 year ago 12
@bazman85 Why would we envy the plane that caused the only two fatal civillian casualties? Yeah thats right. Go check the facts. They never were able to destroy the radar nor the strip, and killed 2 inocent kelper women.
pk5887 1 year ago
@pk5887 Check my facts? OK the Vulcan rendered port stanley obsolete for fast jets, they jammed radar and you cowards surrenderd not long after, they did minimal damage, but,....the great Argentine army defeated by ONE British battalion! Argentine casualties 635, British casualties 255,.... 12 978 Argentine prisoners were captured.Now the British Harriers deployed with the task force... These fighters shot down 31 Argentine aircraft with no air-to-air losses themselves. Any more facts you need?
bazman85 1 year ago
@bazman85 Ok we sort of agree regarding the vulcan. Good.
That aside, i dont like counting casualties. Its necessary but its a very relative thing. Half the argentine deaths were in the sinking of the belgrano. Set that war crime aside and we are almost even. Besides youdont count gurkhas or taiwanese deaths as your own. And regarding air combat. The argentine planes' goal was bombing the fleet, not shooting down fighters. That was the brits aim. War is an assymetrical thing. different aims.
pk5887 1 year ago
@pk5887 Ah the belgrano... well we set an exclusion zone, not my fault if you wern't listening. We didn't count any Gurkha deaths either because you all ran away from them, not one Gurkha died in battle in the Falklands :)
bazman85 1 year ago
@bazman85 Exclusion zone or not my point still stands.
pk5887 1 year ago
@pk5887 Well,.....use your brain, did you think we would let the belgrano dock at the islands? Really?If you had just asked for the islands back some sort of agreement would probably have been drawn up like in other areas of the empire, but no.Your point stands for nothing, this was not a game of cricket with rules, it was a war. No shame in losing to the UK anyway, your not the first ;)
bazman85 1 year ago
@pk5887
How can the sinking of a warship possibly be a war crime? You might want to look up the definition of a war crime.
As for Gurkha deaths, there was none- they never got a chance to see any action. I believe 9 of them were wounded though.
Azog150 11 months ago
@ronch0 by luck ? we kicked you ass. You lot could not win a whore in a brothel.
assym2006 1 year ago
Well is'nt that what you do in a war????
bannon1000 2 years ago
How many Argies did you get more to the point :-) always ours and always be Falklands
sellingstone 2 years ago
Malvinas are Argentina's!
Avicenna9 2 years ago
They are British, along with the billions of barrels of oil that have been found... gutted
Polybeast 2 years ago
The 21, 1000 lb bombs were dropped 2 miles from target at the optimum 30 degree angle, with the first one producing an 80ft wide crater. The airfield was still used by supply planes but not by fighter jets. It was a symbolic attack to let the Argies know they were not out of reach and subsequently destroyed the conscrips morale. Read "Vulcan 607" by Rowland white... awesome achievement.
bonnotube 2 years ago
The runway wasn't being used by fighter jets in the first place - it wasn't long enough.
And it didn't just take a Vulcan to let the Argies know they were in range, the Navy were regularly bombing and shelling the airfield throughout much of the war
Solidboat123 2 years ago
You're doing it wrong lol. The bombs should be dropped from 16000 feet at a rate of 4 per second
LordFlasheart575 2 years ago
sorry but the Malvinas are Argentina on the platform as ours territorially you British are pirates and thieves
cristianlomas22 2 years ago
para las personas q no saben ingles les dije a los ingleses "perdon pero las islas malvinas estan en la plataforma continental argentina ustedes son unos poratas y ladornes "
cristianlomas22 2 years ago
Wrong the people of the Falklands are British. It was part of our empire and we intend to hold onto it. Don't be so sour because you lost
Trancemad1984 2 years ago 3
Nice, but I preffer the XH558, 698 and XM597 weren't in the cold war, were they?
pancho133 2 years ago
Why didn't we bomb the runway longways instead of sideways?
P1mpMyBr1de 2 years ago
Its more accurate to go in at a 45 degree angle and "cut" the runway in half.
philipmtall 2 years ago
But the runway was only clipped by a bomb, the Argies still used it.
P1mpMyBr1de 2 years ago
los bulcan , nunca pudieron lograr su objetivo de destruir , la pista de puerto argentino . ( siempre seguia en funcionamiento )
ivanexocet 2 years ago
malvinas dont exsist its the Falklands which was first populated by british then Argentina invaded it when it stole its mainland from Spain. Uk has taken back the Falklands twice from invaders but Argentine teachers only teach properganda history.
NielsShoe 2 years ago 2
chupenme todos la pija aguante messi!!!
gmpfm 2 years ago
That's the 698, is true that the XH558 flew in October 2007 up to now?
pancho133 2 years ago
It`s FS2004?
visitRomania 2 years ago
It is Jet Thunder, a new FS
gargoloso 2 years ago
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" 1982 malvinas la guerra desde el aire"
Es de The Histori chanel saludos.
ccrystyan1980 2 years ago
Yes, one bomb clipped the side of the runway and Argies tried to repair it but the foundations were badly cracked and Argentina couldn't land their heavy transporters on it for the rest of the war. I did hear they made a fake crater out of mud in the middle of the runway for the benefit of the British spy planes and then removed it when landing their own planes. If anyone else has heard this story I'd love to know if it's true.
realgonekid001 2 years ago
this is true
jhbecci 2 years ago
I have heard that also, I just cannot remembr which book it was. I think "Air War South Atlantic". The effort it took to fly those missions was enormous but it forced Argentine HQ to include the possible bombing of their mainland in the things they had to try & be ready for. Personally I think if UK had actually bombed mainland Argentina the war, and the death on both sides, would have become much bigger. I think others would have become involved.
matapan50 2 years ago
AlasdairGreig - Why you hate us a lot? That war was in 1982, now Argentina and Britain don't have problems...
PD: The avro vulcan isn't in the RAF today?
pancho133 2 years ago
pancho133,
No, the Vulcan was retired from service years ago, not long after the Falklands I think
Solidboat123 2 years ago
i don't hate the argentines a lot, i was merely stating why the falklands will not belong to argentina
AlasdairGreig 2 years ago
Malvinas is not property of UK. At last, it's belong to Malvinas's people.-
mdivinzenso 2 years ago
I know that the 'Malvinas' has its own government, but it is still a British overseas territory.
sabreali 2 years ago 3
Well, I think argentine and british people will never be agree abuot Malvinas...Anyway, I hope our both countries wont be in war never again. The only reason to against each other than I can take is playing soccer games! ;)
mdivinzenso 2 years ago
Well said, but there is always be an england...oppressing others
toonsis 2 years ago
yes, it does belong to the inhabitants of the Falklands, who think of themselves as BRITISH!!!
AlasdairGreig 2 years ago 2
Fuk u argentines there is no possible way that the falklands are yours - you tried and failed miserably u twats
tonydmakintea 2 years ago
OK, I only say that islands belong us..Argentine Falklands!
tanito132 2 years ago
Repeat it as many times as you like. Still ours
chapmasi 2 years ago 4
and that is based on what? you tool.
45545512 2 years ago
Its based on the fact we sailed down the south Atlantic and took it back in 73 days. "You tool"
chapmasi 2 years ago
sorry buddy, my comment was for the people (tanito) who think the Falklands belong to the argentians. I totally agree with you Chapmasi :)
45545512 2 years ago
hehehe
chapmasi 2 years ago
and who established the first colony on the Falklands....oh yeah, the British, so technically they're ours. We've beaten you once to keep them, so don't try to take them back by force again, as yet again, you'll lose
AlasdairGreig 2 years ago
Malvinas por siempre Argentinas!!!! britanicos estais locos! malditos locos piratas!!
argentinoemanuel1 2 years ago
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Oh yeah, malvinas argentinas, british people couldn't win this war, and the malvinas will be argentine again
ARGENTINE FALKLANDS!!!!!!!
pancho133 2 years ago
What do you mean british people could not win this war? British people did win it! what you are saying makes no sense at all and the Falkland Islands are British. They live under British law and they pay British taxesand it will remain that way for as long as Britain exists. The only way you will take the falklands from us is if you invade and conqour the mainland failing that the islands will never be yours.
gluepot66 2 years ago 3
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gluepot66 2 years ago
pancho I wrote in english to enable our friends to undesrtand it ! I travelled in south america on the war beginning and I was completely puzzled with the cultural and political analphabetism ! some friends asked me, as european, which was my opinion, indeed very simple : y dont hv the slightest idea with which kind of people y enter on colision ! yr arguments are pathetic and the result confirms it : argentina was destroyed on psycological point of view, and has never recovered !
pegasoenasa 2 years ago
We gave the dirty Argies a kicking for trying to steal our islands.
Lets face it, their pathetic attempt to capture them was only done to divert attention away from their problems at home at the time.
ToonandBBfan 2 years ago
Were a bunch of miserable wet islands in the arse end of the Atlantic with nothing but a few farmers, penquins, seagulls and sheep worth the lives of 900 young Argentinian and British soldiers, sailors and airmen?
A lot of brave men died there but was it really worth it?
swansandtyphus 2 years ago
If you are serving in the Majesty's armed forces it is your duty to defend the British Empire. As the Falkland IIlse are part of Britain Margerat Thatcher saw it fit to defend it and return it to British hands. People don't sign up to serve without understanding the consequences first.
Muddkipz 2 years ago 3
Quote 'Several more Black Buck missions were flown against the Argentine radars on the islands. Black Buck 2 was a repeat of Black Buck 1 but had less success, with the bombs missing the runway. Black Bucks 3 and 4 were cancelled because of problems with refuelling." The airfield of Stanley was used all the way to the end of the war, this airplanes did not cause any damaged to the airfield.
enzo3737 2 years ago
Black Buck 2 was never intended to hit the runway, it targeted attempts to extend the runway with steel matting. Thanks for the stocks of steel matting btw, came in very handy after the war.
Black Buck 1 was intended to put a stick of bombs across the runway in a 35° cut. It was expected that 1 possibly 2 bombs would hit. It was to deny the use of fast jets, the RAF knew that C-130 would continue to use it.
tootiredtobeoriginal 2 years ago
and only one of the 21 bombs dropped on Black Buck 1 hit the runway, right in the middle and created a large crater which the Argies couldn't repair
AlasdairGreig 2 years ago
The bomb didn't land right in the middle - it only just clipped the runway (I've seen a post-strike recce photo, before you ask). And I think it was repaired within 24 hours.
Solidboat123 2 years ago
re: comment about captured flags.
Argentina keep your captured english flags we will keep th falklands end of the day it was ENGLAND 1 Argentina 0 anytime you fancy a rematch we would be well up for it!
vonrikety 2 years ago
Ships destroyed, please take back your junk back to londonistan
Destructor tipo 42 clase Sheffield (D-80) HMS Sheffield
Destructor tipo 42 clase Sheffield (D-118) HMS Coventry
Fragata tipo 21 clase Amazon (F-184) HMS Ardent
Fragata tipo 21 clase Amazon (F-170) HMS Antelope
Buque logístico de desembarco (L-3005) RFA Sir Galahad
Buque logístico de desembarco (L-3505) RFA Sir Tristam
Portacontenedor de gran porte Atlantic Conveyor
Lancha de desembarco Foxtrot 4
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS
enzo3737 2 years ago
the only statistic that counts is, Great Britain 1- argentina 0, also the body count, you lost more. an army of cowards and conscripts didn't stand a chance, even if they were superior in numbers and fighting from prepared defensive positions on their doorstep, against a smaller force 7000 miles from home with limited air cover, argentines are greasy cowards,
bigchiefmingingbolok 2 years ago 4
BBC "A second, better-resourced invasion followed in May 1807, under Lieutenant-General John Whitelock, attacking Buenos Aires in July. After a couple of days of intense street fighting, the British surrendered to an army it had considered no more than a rabble.
After losing more than half his force, the British signed a ceasefire on 7 July and left for home, where Whitelock was court-martialled and discharged."
We defeated England 1806/1807/1845/ and april-2-1982 ,the counts is 4 to 1
enzo3737 2 years ago
very good, but the union jack still and always will fly over the Falklands,
bigchiefmingingbolok 2 years ago 4
They say that many times before, we have a whole collection of your captured flags in our museum.
enzo3737 2 years ago
something to remind you of the few days that you were in control of the island, we on the other hand have museums full of your captured planes, anti aircraft guns, small arms and numerous vehicles, plus the islands of course, still flags are better than nothing!
bigchiefmingingbolok 2 years ago 3
I am very happy that you keep those guns in your museums, that will remind you that with those prehistoric guns we sunk 8 of your best ships which are to large and in the botton of our ocean to keep in any museums.MALVINA ARGENTINAS!!!
enzo3737 2 years ago
I would not say exocet is a prehistoric weapon something the British navy knew all about and feared. 3 of of the 5 Exocets where used to destroy 2 ships something any navy in the world would be hard pressed to defend against at the time.
The British task force were preserving freedom for British people which had been taken away.
PilgrimGB 2 years ago 2
England does not care about captured flags??? read this quote from Wikipedia "On this first invasion, the 71st Regiment of Foot lost two flags during the combat, which are currently held in Argentina. On the second invasion, there was a frustrated attempt to recover both flags. They were retaken by the Buenos Aires militia and returned to the Santo Domingo convent. Another two banners from the British Royal Navy are also held in the convent."
Really?
enzo3737 2 years ago
your flags aren't worth keeping
Saxe333 2 years ago
"4:1" 1806 you forget the people initially welcomed the British.
1845 Battle of Vuelta de Obligado
Argentine losses: 250 killed, 400 wounded, 1 warship lost, 21 cannons lost
Anglo-French losses: 28 killed, 95 wounded
Argentine defences breached and the fleet proceeded upstream. But because the British and French couldn't be arsed to keep trouncing the Argentine defences you claim it as a victory.
1982, the only battle that actually counts is the last one.
War is not a score chart you idiot.
tootiredtobeoriginal 2 years ago
Quote "Historians believe that the French and British forces intervened in the region to ensure free navigation along the Rio Parana and Rio Uruguay. However, in 1850, both the French and British withdrew after signing a treaty that represented a triumph for Juan Manuel de Rosas of Argentina.[2]"
enzo3737 2 years ago
Triumph? After a convincing a total defeat. Oh yeah?
tootiredtobeoriginal 2 years ago
I do not write history only I read it, I know ,sometimes is difficult to digest.
enzo3737 2 years ago
And history is often distorted by narrow national interests for domestic consumption. A better picture is usually achieved by considering both sides. Sadly something your countrymen are rarely prepared to do.
tootiredtobeoriginal 2 years ago
The sad thing is for us it was a tiny tiny skirmish yet for you it has taken on a significance the size of Waterloo. If we seriously wanted your pissy little shit hole of a country we would take it.
Saxe333 2 years ago
RFA Sir Tristam was not destroyed but abandoned and later rebuilt and served in the gulf war. Only 6 ships lost in total.
PilgrimGB 2 years ago 2
Yeah but they have to inflate the numbers to satisfy their ego. Sad isn't it?
tootiredtobeoriginal 2 years ago
esta guerra nunca termino, ni va a terminar hasta que argentina vuelva a malvinas o tenga la soberania sobre estas tierras nuevamente, desarmaron nuestra FFAA por que se dieron cuenta de lo que era este pais de el 3er mundo que hundio sus novedosos barcos de guerra.. y golpeo a su "Invensible.." Argentina..
federicoscherma 2 years ago
GURKAS PUTOS
rojosaloso 2 years ago
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The Malvinas were French until he ceded sovereignty to Spain. In 1816 these islands were inherited from Spain to Argentina, until in 1833, invading the UK. We want peace but we can not allow injustice and that part of our land is invaded by England. We will continue to call ourselves. Malvinas are Argentinas
leproso2008 3 years ago
ummmm yeah you just blow up your airfield, I mean??...why blow it when you can take it back in tact...since you have naval support you don't think you can just use paratroopers to cease the airfield and then once captured fly in more troops by C-130....??? or if that don't work paratroopers you can assault with Royal Marines and armored force to land on what look like beaches??...ummmm??? or maybe you can use both in a combined attack.
:-D just messin but if it was that type of game I'd do that
brooks19888 3 years ago
This was a recreation of a real raid that was really nothing more than a psyops mission to show the Argentinians that the British were willing and able to send bombers all the way from the UK if necessary. The raid didn't do any major damage but it did more to effect the confidence and morale of the Argentinians. The distance to the islands from the nearest UK airstrip would have made it extremely difficult to reach with a C-130 and troops (the Hercules has to dive to keep up with a Victor!)
staggabob 3 years ago
I can admire that feet of achievement of the Brits and all of her majasty's armed forces for going all the way to the Falklands to take back what was there own from what looked on paper a numerical Argentine military on there own turf. Goes to show that the British still got it even when times were hard in UK in the 1980's.
cheers dude
brooks19888 3 years ago
It wasn't psyops, the mission was to destroy the landing strip, in fact John Nott said that very day (01 May) to the international media that the landing strip was destroyed. Galtieri responded, in a hurry, that the landing strip was still operational, the Stanley commander, pissed of, responded to him that it was better to give the british misinformation The destruction of Stanley landing strip was one of the bigest failures of the task force in the entire conflict. They were unable to touch it
pseudoaristoteles 2 years ago
What I meant was that the operation succeeded in demoralising the Argentinians than it achieved militarily. It took an enormous effort to put the operation together and the result was only one bomb actually hitting the strip. But all the same British troops stationed off the coast said that the raid made them feel more confident that the British had a powerful force and showed the Argentinians that they could hit targets anywhere, forcing them to keep assets back to defend the mainland.
celicakz 2 years ago
No they said they'd hit it with a single bomb and produced aerial reconnaissance photos to back it up. The planning for the mission called for a 35° cut across the runway, with the aim of 1possibly 2 hits. There was never any intention to destroy it, the mission was to deny its use to fast jets. And the British were fully aware C-130 would be able to use the runway.
tootiredtobeoriginal 2 years ago
Air Power Doctrine, which you can download from the MoD website, sets this out. Its very difficult to close a runway through bombing, though LGB make it easier. The impact of air attack has a minimal impact. There is a lot of misinformation out about the Black Buck missions. Their intention was to deny not destroy, the airfield would be needed after the war.
tootiredtobeoriginal 2 years ago
Um yeah...when you say "They were unable to touch it" do you mean apart from the 1000 pound bomb that left a crater 84 feet deep? The crater that although quickly filled in continued to subside and ended any chances of flying fast jets from the airstrip? The crater that meant only the C130s (designed for rough landings) could use the strip and it almost caused the loss of one of them? In other words a total (and well documented by both British and Argentinian witnesses) success!
kdienv 2 years ago 3
But of course that's just the material damage. This raid convinced the Argentines that the British landing was about to commence so they sent their ships, including the General Belgrano to engage the Royal Navy. After the Belgrano was sunk the Argentine Navy stayed away while the fighter jets that could have affected the war were posted to defend Buenos Aires from a possible Vulcan attack. So this single raid affected the entire outcome of the war.
kdienv 2 years ago 3
how do u drop the bombs
greg4ffc 3 years ago
Falklands British! always were, always will be!
ex- 7SU Byron Heights, West Falklands!
"The Byron Boys are, on the piss again!"
cheltcanary 3 years ago 2
I have no obligation to write in Eng, so yo continuaré escribiendo en castellano. Las Malvinas son argentinas porque fueron tierras que pertenecía a España, y antes que España eran de Francia (por eso el nombre Malvinas), Francia tras una disputa cede las tierras a España (UK aceptó tal situación), luego cuando se independiza Arg. estas islas pasan a la soberanía Argentina, hasta que en 1833 fueron invadidas por el Reino Unido.
leproso2008 3 years ago
A simple example. Argentina claims that Britain expelled the settlers in 1833 replacing them with British settlers. Except that is a blatant lie, not only were they not expelled but were encouraged to stay. Britain didn't send settlers till 1841.
The Falklands are British and Gibraltar is British simply because that is the clearly expressed desire of the inhabitants, it is guaranteed by Article 73 of the UN Charter and illogical irredentist claims will never change that.
tootiredtobeoriginal 3 years ago
What have Mrs Spock and the Argies got in common?
They have both been Fucked by a Vulcan
cp4snowhill 3 years ago 6
The only way The Falklands will be SON ARGENTINAS is via the good offices of Google Earth ,its good but dont beat feet on the ground LOL
Falklands British
cp4snowhill 3 years ago
england in no way supports the people of the islas malvinas. EVER. only wanted it so they can brag and say they got alot of land
al3xt3hl0nly 3 years ago
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The same reason that made the english reject the falklands renamed into malvinas apply in the Greeks regecting the name of the Greek province of Macedonia to an artificial slavic entity like "former yugoslav republic of macedonia" that is tottaly unrelated to the name and history and heritage of the land.
the world must support the trouth and not two standards
audy8000 3 years ago
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English go out of our Malvinas. Malvinas were a territory inherited from Spain to Arg, so the Malvinas were invaded in 1833 by UK. We will come back to recover our territory. Malvinas Argentinas por siempre!!! Fuera ingleses de nuestras islas.
leproso2008 3 years ago