I believe Napoleon was under the revolutionary system. He wasn't overthrown; he was beaten on the battlefield. Before Napoleon the upper-class were overthrown because they lived in obscene richness whilst the rest starved.
well, I try to convince Americans the NHS generally works... but a lot of them just don't want to believe it (some socialism is good). You don't want the state to run your life, but there are some things private companies cannot run; the health service is one of those things.
I am just like you, I work very hard and pay about 40% of my money for taxes and my home and I have no money left for insurance that cost about 400.00 a month per person. Hope things will change soon for all of us
You've got to be kidding me. $25 -$50 thousand in medical debt? That's a big window. Which is it? 25 or 50. You got health treatment right? Just move to Cuba and you'll get what you want.
I feel you bro man this country is so f**ed up it makes my blood boil with rage, this insurance guys give a shit about the american people. All they want is our money. We the people should fight for our rights this is inhumane!!!
From 2000 to 2005, health insurance premiums rose by 73%, compared to an aggregate increase in workers income of just 15%. (Chicago Tribune, Jan. 31, 2006) Premiums rose three times faster than wages and inflation in 2005 (UC Berkeley Center for Labor research and Education, Dec. 2006).
About one-third of medical spending is now devoted to services that dont appear to improve health or the quality of care, meaning the U.S. wastes more than $650 billion per year (IHSP), more than is being spent on the war in Iraq (John Abramson, Harvard Medical School, column, Los Angeles Times, Nov. 3, 2006).
Over 30% of every healthcare dollar is spent on administrative overhead in private insurance compared to just 3.2% in-Medicare administrative costs. (Institute for Health and Socio-Economic Policy)
The potential economic value to be gained in better health outcomes from uninterrupted coverage for all Americans is estimated to be between $65 and $130 billion each year. (Institute of Medicine, June 17, 2003)
Nearly 30% of low and middle-income households with credit card debt cite medical debt as a contributing factor; 69% of those had a major medical expense in the previous three years (Borrowing to Stay Healthy: How Credit Card Debt Is Related to Medical Expenses, Demos,The Access Project, January, 2007)
Half of all personal bankruptcies are caused by illness or medical bills. The number of medical bankruptcies has increased by 2200% since 1981 (Health Affairs, February, 2005). Two-thirds of people with a medical bill or debt problem went without needed care due to cost (Commonwealth Fund,Aug. 2005).
One-fifth of all Americans, 48.8 million individuals, were in families spending more than 10% of their family income on healthcare in 2003, an increase of 11.7 million persons since 1996. Of these, 18.7 million (7.3%) were spending more than 20% of family income, a figure normally associated with home ownership.
The percent of middle-income Americans (22.7%) spending over 10% of their income on healthcare was almost identical to the percent of low-income Americans (23.7%) on healthcare (JAMA, Dec. 13, 2006).
sara5893 --- YOU can suck BULLS DICK . I work 6/24 probably sleeping very little ,.. IN rich COMPANY , I DO not have HEALTH INSURANCE , I can afford to pay for it , BUT WHAT I am getting , THAT is my question, PAYING 400$ a month for HEALTH CARE that covers only basic CARE, FUCK THIS HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
Thank you so much. An update: We can afford health insurance, but acording to the insurance companies, we would have to pay out of pocket on nearly everything we need insurance for in addition to the insurance, co pays, deductibles, and what ever they decide to charge us. We must get Obama to pass HR 676!
One more thing, you are 23 and a student. So b/c you do not want to buy insurance I, working mother of three has to pay higher taxes for you? NO, I pay my bills, I pay other goverment bills, Get a better job. I'm sick of paying higher and higher taxes for other ppl to not be responsible. I take care of my kids WITH OUT others. BTW I'm 41
Well, I am so happy that your daughter has the opportunity to pay into the corrupt system they call health care. We CHOOSE rent and groceries over the $700 health plan they offer. And, btw, we both work at a place getting kids like your daughter to and from school safely getting paid less than some grocery stockers. We don't choose this, we have to get by. And England only pays .5% more in taxes than we do.
They have free medical and dental, and education. Its people like you that is wrong with America. If people like you were less concerned with money and more concerned with your fellow man, maybe we wouldn't be in this god forsaken death trap they call the war on terror. Thats why England is backing out, because they cant afford to make war AND take care of their own.
SCREW you Buddy, Ppl like me MADE the USA. PPl like me work our asses off every day and and take responsiblity for moving up to bigger and better positions in our careers as to better the lives of our children. Ppl like me strive to improve life not wine about what we aren't getting from the goverment. Life isn't about money, it's about pushing one's self to their highest. My concern of my fellow man? Ppl like you assume that b/c I want others to support themselve I do not care! Typical!
Actually the free slave labor made the USA, and you should know when to admit your wrong. People with your mentality, of fuck everyone else I am going to better my life and my families only is why this place is going downhill. We are supposed to take care of each other, not just ourselves. Use some common sense.
Slavery only existed in the south because of cotton. If it wasn't because of cotton then slavery would have ended in the 1830's. Slaves did not build the factories of the North; slaves did not work in those factories. While yes the people who worked there got payed little and lived horribly by todays standards. Remember this; those people got better wages and better living conditions than the rest of the world at that time. We still do.
The funny thing is that you already pay a lot of money (even though it is not in tax) in your health insurance because many other people can't afford the insurance, and if they could you would actually get a cheaper insurance.
Thats what they want you to think. Their system is one that puts profits before people. The system is not designed to help people. It is designed to make money by not helping people. Why should I have to pay into a system that wont help me when I need it to? Why should I have to deal with a person sitting in an office who's job it is to deny my human right to health care?
USA health care scares me. Those without concern for people with reduced means to pay lack all sorts of wisdom and foresight.
Your monolithic insurance companies appear to gorge themselves while denying basic care to the underprivileged (not lazy). I'm a registered nurse in Aus and we dont discharge someone unless they are well and have somewhere safe to go. All care is free if youre not insured. I'm not insured because the public system is fine. Some probs, but nothin like the US. Very sad...
watch the movie tard. how come a lazy french guy doesn't have to pay for college education, health care: heck, he even gets a free nanny and his laundry done for free.
you're a stupid republican who doens't know anything. get lost.
This man is LAZY and blames eveyone else for his problems. Health Care is not a right.While you smoke your cigs you want free health care. What war were you in? You only fight for first place in the all you can eat line. Personal resposiblity take it for once.
1st of all, I dont smoke. 2nd, I was in the Navy. 3rd, It is in the constitution that we have the right to LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS! Health Care falls under at least 2 of those! *R-Tard!*
Americans are just silly people. They work until they die. THIS ist their American Dream.
I live in Europea, I get free health insurance, free housing, and free money for healthy-food.. I can live like a KING in europe. I would NEVERE EVER want this disgusting american citizenship. gross !
after i'm done with school and off to europe and never coming back. europe is sooo much cooler then USA.
in souther france girls walk around with no bras! in germany there's no speed limits. heck, you can drive 100mph thru europe. i just did. didn't even get pulled over.
I love europe. I've lived in USA half my life and in europe the other half. USA sucks compared to europe.
There is no such thing as free health care dude. You are going to get socked with another 3.5% percent payroll tax. The upper income earners get socked an additional 5% health tax. Why is their responsibility for me or you? Furthermore, if they work for someone, they get nailed with another 8.5% tax cut, plus get hit with another 15% on capital gains. Do you think its fair to tax someone 23.5% on top of the 38% they already pay?
well, thats not bad. Its still better than the $400-600 /mo they pay for health insurance plus co-pays, plus deductibles. So people will be saving money. And if anyone looses their job, they are still covered. Its free as in no out of pocket expenses. And according to the national average, its 32% which is cheeper than england who has the same system we are trying for. If they can do it, why not us?
Dude..try this again. My family makes 72k. Our bracket after AGI is 22%. Now you want me to pay another 3.5% on top of that 22%? Not to mention HR676 repeals all of Bush's tax cuts. Means my capital gains tax goes from 15% to 28%. So, if I pull money from my Forex account, I get hit with 28%...every time. Let's say I pull money once. What gives you the right to tell me that I have to pay over 1/4 of my income plus additional 28% in CG?
instead of what you normally pay in health insurance? yea. Id say thats fair, if you want to be a dick about it. If it works for every other western industrialized nation, why not here? Im telling you that it really wont be that bad, if we stand up and tell the government that that last thing we want is taxes raised. Thats the worst that could happen though. And when you get sick and cant afford your co-pay or deductible maybe you will realize it.
I see. So it is perfectly acceptable to have me pay over 40% of my income for you? I got bad news for you. HR 676 if you have read it is all about taxes. Where do you think I got the numbers from? The bill itself. Oh, and also, it will fall under medicare. Which means, you do not have a choice of who to see. They tell you. In short, you, your doctors, have been slaves to the government.
If you have seen "sicko", the so called slaves have million dollar homes and drive BMWs. I wouldnt mind being that kind of slave. It wouldnt be for me. It for you, your family, friends, neighbors. We all pay the same. You have this attitude like you are better than me because you have more money. So if you go bankrupt tomorrow, what then? And that causes you to have a heart attack and cant afford the surgery? What then?
Forget Sicko, did you read the bill? If you did not read the bill submitted by this dude, you have no idea what he is about to do to us. Also, been bankrupt. I am on year 4 of 7 for discharge clearance. There is a better way than to slam the ones who already gave too much. I pay for welfare, foodstamps, section 8. I have paid more than enough. When does it end?
I read the bill. I cant wait for its aprovial. SO the poor can get food and shelter, but only if you are extremely poor. But they still cant go to a doc. But thats ok, because you GAVE TODAY! Im not slamming you, but you seem to have a really bad attitude. Its called helping your fellow man. Not everyone makes $72k/yr. Why should health care be a privlige to people like you while people like me who take your kid to school might die tomorrow thankless.
Amazing...you would advocate the stealing of additional monies to pay for something that ultimately is your responsibility.You know, I served my country. Most of you have not. I fought for every scrap of dignity. Most of you have not. I never begged any man for help. Why? I am an American. I have pride in myself. I never look the government for all the answers. I find them myself. Why? Innovation. Pride.
SO have I! Im not begging anyone. But from what you just said, I am responsible for my own well being! Oh, so I need to prescribe my own meds and do surgery on myself. And I guess you didnt use the military's health hare at all, because that would be begging the government? Answer me this. Why do you think health care is a privilege to the elite?
Elite? Elite is what you make out of it. You can win. You can lose. There is no guarantee. My Constitution gives the right to purse happiness. It never said you were going to win.
So because I am poor I cant pursue happiness? The constitution says nothing about rich or poor. Its supposed to be a democracy but people like you change that so that your class rule and our class die from disease and medical bills.
What class? You do not think I am just as vulnerable as you for medical bills? Also, we as a country happened to be a limited democracy. We are a republic. Rule of Law as opposed to Mob Rule. Think hard son, you are willing to enslave an entire nation on the concept of "free health care".
Enslave like how? Freeing you and everybody from the worry of health care? Do you know what it is like to pray everyday you dont get sick? Cause if you get sick you dont go to work and cant make money. Your car gets repo-ed, and you get kicked out of your 1 bdrm apt. Do you know what thats like for over half of the country?
Enslave by virtue of no longer being the master of your life. What makes you think the Feds will not one day make the determination that if you are not worth anything to society, then they simply pull the plug? What are you going to do? Sue? I don't think so. They are immune. Know why? Because you let them. You gave them control, willingly. Think they won't use it?
Then move! Good lord, they don't have our population. They have our infrastructure. Hell, they don't even have anything remotely close to our style of government. They pay taxes through the nose but their quality of life blows. Our poor lives better than they do in terms of QoL.
Not really. Great Britian pays less average than we do in taxes and they get universal health care. You dont see hobos on the streets outside the palace, and everyone takes care of each other. Why dont you get out, since you like paying so much. You are not the majority here.
I know I'm not. We became of nation of people who want everything for free instead of working hard for it. My kind will die out in the end. When my kind dies, so does this country. No longer will out nation know pride. Ethics, morality gone. We teach our children to not be men. But to be submissive. The liberal mantra: submit, comply, adjust.
Its not that. You assume too much. It all falls on the fact you think you are better than me because you can afford something that is right. Its in the constitution. LIFE, is the first thing humans are entitled to. And you pay the insurance companies to kill us.
Yes it is that. You will trade freedom for slavery. You would take from me what does not belong to you. You would take from a great many other's. Like those who begged the government for security at the expense of liberty, you will offer yourself as a lamb.
Oh, preachy are we? What freedom do the other western industrialized nations give up? Tell me? Do you even know? Yes, it belongs to me, and to everyone else. And first and for most I believe it needs to come from the insurance companies that kill so many for cash. But thats me being preachy.
Well, lets see, most of the western nations are socialist for starters. Democracy is merely a word to them. It means nothing. Again, I can solve the problem. Using my PM class, after reading this garbage 676, I decided to formulate the plan and copyright it and request a face to face with my Senator. Before you enslave my nation, I will want to fight for it.
Oh, and protesting in the streets of paris and the public getting their way is socialist? better than capitalist where money rules. Then, what is your plan?
It does. Once I put it all together, I need the numbers from J.L. to see how it will match up and re-tweak. Then I will ask for the face to face with my senator. It is the best program I could think of.
676 has chains. This one doesn't. 676 gives the power to the government in spades. This one really doesn't. Did you get my reply on your latest question?
Now...a man, a good one, would think hard of what he wants. Freedom at a cost, or slavery for free. I can solve the problem you have. It is simple in explanation, hard to implement, but very, very doable.
Actually, if you read how they do things, the incentives and what not, that is not in 676. So our doctors here will be federal employees. Slaves. Oh sure 676 allows for them to maintain their salary, it doesn't guarantee it.
Oh and the military hospital. Yes I used it. Once. Is it begging? Nope. It was part of my contract with United States. In return for my service and my life if need be, the United States government would pay me, take care of me, and educate me. I have fulfilled their requirements and they have fulfilled mine.
Well since you are in "higher education", perhaps a class in business law is needed. No one begged anyone. It was a contract. Two parties agreed. They want my service, I wanted compensation. They said yes, I said yes. I could have said no.
But you didn't purchase insurance? Didnt pay your own way like you are toting around? Thats socialized medicine, government slave! What was so bad about that? I dont hear you complaining about the other socialized programs in effect. Or do you want us all to pay for fire department insurance and police department insurance?
Why do you think I used their hospital once? However, yes they did have insurance for life/death etc.. My care once again was a contract. That contract was accepted by the American people as part of DoD budget. What you want is something completely different. Oh and if you rent an apartment, you should have fire insurance. And yes, you get to pay that 20 dollars for it, not me.
SO there is an insurance that you pay a deductible for when your house is on fire and cant get it put out until your copay is met? And maybe they only put out 2/3 of it, and tell you to put the other 1/3 out yourself?
You are 23. Judging by the video, overweight. Did I shove the big macs down your throat? Did I force you to drink an entire bathtub of soda while playing video games? Did I prevent from gaining a higher education so you can succeed with the rest of us? I did not. So why should I be further penalized and further prohibited form living my life?
Excuse me, but I dont even like fast food you bigot. I am in school, not that you knew that because you assume. I am getting a higher education but no thanks to my parents. BTW mr tax man, but when you apply for FA you need your parents tax info. They are more broke than I am. So its my fault that I have a medical condition and was born into a poor family?
No you don't need your family's info unless they claim you as a dependant. If you work full time and you claim yourself, FAFSA will drop your EFC code and increase your actual student loan. How do I know? I am in DeVry working on a 55k Degree. Not to mention I dropped an additional 7k on MCSE training. Remove your parents from the equation, you win. If you work fulltime, keep it under 62k for max Pell Grant.
FASFA said my parents still counted when I started school, and I make more than their 9k/yr limit. But I can go because I have to rely on my disability. But full time student is required, that means less hours at work. That means I get to take the 3k max/sem to loan to live on! JOY!
Then take your classes online. 51% of my classes are online. I have Project Mgmt 404 right now online along with Science and a lab. This is what I am talking. You are too quick to accept limitations and defeat. Work your away around it. I did.
How are you able to take hands on classes on line? Lab is needed too. Ever try holding a virtual camera? The point is, not everyone is like you. Not everyone makes the kind of money you do. Not everyone was as well off as you. Put yourself in our shoes. Or is that what money does to people? Make their hearts cold?
For Devry, it is called iLab. It is an oracle based server application that allows to mimic a lab environment. You don't need a virtual camera. You need to be able to run a macromedia presentation or read a text book. Read the lecture, read the book, watch the lecture, and do the assignments. Take the quizes, etc..Not hard to do. Hell it's easier.
I love online classes, but you cant do field production or studio production online. Its also hard for people with my disability to understand math only one way. 'I' have to have a teacher. Again, not everyone is like you.
Again, 51% of classes are online. 49% are on-site. Meaning I have classes too. Difference is 8 week online A/B or 15 week single class. And yes I hate math too. Miracle I made it through trig.
Just be prepared for being on the heavy end. No matter what you do.. You'll always be viewed as an outsider. You just maybe viewed in the way most Americans view Mexicans comming over the boarder. It's just a fact. It alwasys seem greener, but you'll be giving up A LOT!!
Though, I will say that it's great to live in a country where we can voice our concerns without the fear of being bullied..OPPS, The left and right use both tactics with great success. You're right. the system is jacked, but there has to be a reason the country is being over run . just my two cents.
So you look at the companies to decide the wealth of a country? Im not after corporate America. I just dont believe that profit needs to be made by making people suffer and denying them care.
Realocated and taking your money are not the same. If you have a dictionary, you can look the word up. There might be a tax raise, but if england can do it with less tax than we do, then I dont see why they need to raise taxes.
OH YEAH, by the way... Atleast you have the balls to say you'll move out, but i wonder if you'll give up your citizenship when you do? YOU'RE willing to piss away your rights for this?? Let's hear it?? Are you going to give it up?? That's something i'd like to hear.
i agree... i think "AMERICAN'S" who can't afford health insurance should get something on the lines of the military system. IF you can afford it, you should be able to buy the best you can afford. You are right about one thing. In France, the government is affraid of the public,.. In the USA, it's the other way around.
Thank you. I think everyone is entitled to the same care, no matter the price. Why should someone make a profit from the pain of others. We should take care of each other. Besides, its those of us that make enough money to not qualify for programs, but not enough money for insurance that are in the most trouble.
I live in the uk so Ive had this socialized ussr medicine all my life and its terrific , far less trouble than your insurance profit based system I would say .
I know that no one around me has to go without healthcare , they can be a bum or homeless person doesnt matter I know that they can get healthcare .
Im not keen on giving welfare generally Im a conservative but I think everyone in a rich country deserves to have free health care
See, someone from the other side of the coin. This proves that the system works. Its not without flaws, but lets take the best from all the systems and make the american system.
What problem? It works for me. I guess that makes me the bad guy. Sorry if it doesn't work for you. I've always managed to pay my way. And if I can do it believe me others can to. There are systems that require people to make smart decisions and try hard and other systems that don't. If you want the government to pay your medical bills then I guess vote for a socialist candidate.
Great the instead of the $300 government toilet seats we will have 300 million dollar heart surgeries. If the government can't even hold the cost down on a toilet seat how are they to be trusted with taking over the medical system. No thanks.
Well, when you have to choose if you pay rent or pay your overdue medical bills, we will see. There will be a day, unless you never plan on being sick.
BTW I do thank you for not being as rude as others. You have been the best, and most intelligent person to oppose this idea on this thread since its start. Thank you.
No, the money needs to be reallocated, like in England. They have a LOWER tax rate than we do. I dont believe any more taxes need to be taken. In fact, you will be saving money. And if they want to take much more money, then I probably would be against that. They are taking too much and not using it properly, but thats my point. If they are going to take it, then use it properly by taking care of its citizens.
I am just a blue collar worker who does not make a lot of money. But I get health insurance through the company I work for. So no I don't want to pay higher taxes just because you don't have health insurance. First thing you can do is loss some weight man. You don't think that's a health hazard.
So you are not tired of paying 400/mo or more for your family plus co-pays and deductibles? If not, then you are not only selfish for not caring about your fellow man, but you are also richer than most.
Well, your already paying for $300 government tolite seats and over paid maintance men working for the government. So you are telling me you would rather those around you suffer while you act high and mighty. And you are telling me you dont want to reallocate those misspent funds to help those around you? When you are denied insurance or coverage when you need it, we shall see.
Maybe, but we cant get covered. We are victims of those who are paid to deny us.
To those who post only negative feedback: If there is anything you say that is not an aid to the discussion, then it will be removed. I dont care that you disagree, as long as you do so intelligently. NO FLAMING!
Oh poor Americans have all this stuff. Yea, while poor Cubans have some of the best health care in the world. And we wouldn't be 'picking up and moving' either. If you know anything about moving to another country, you need a job there, which I am looking for. But in the mean time I am doing something here. 2 of my closest friends were Canada until 4 months ago, and they really miss the medical they received in Canada.
And if youtube is so teenager, they why are YOU here?
Act now! I've written a letter to my US representative, and I haven't even lived in the country for four years. Watching "Sicko" won't bring us health care. It's our responsibility to make this change.
Actually, I was medically discharged for my asthma. I am writing my congressman about this. I am signing petitions . I am acting for this. I don't work at a fast food joint, I take your kids to and from school. I work, essentially, for the government. And my wife does too.
Because we dont make enough money for two cars, we have to work at the same place. And I get a scholarship to go to school. Americans have bad priorities. Most of the people on this posing have screwed up priorities. And those who say you have to wait in line, who told you that?
I did all today. I wrote our reps in Congress and found that Dennis Kucinich is running for President and that his bill, HR 676, will give us all free health care!
lol Socialized health care isnt close to what you just said. i am canadian in a Socialized health care system and i justbroke my arm 3 months ago and had surgery the next to to rebuild my arm. every thing is free in a Socialized health care system.
k, youre an idiot. if you knew anything about the canadian health care system, you would know that, just like "StopIslamoFascism" said, wait times for healthcare in countries with socialized medicine are rediculous. all you're doing is regurgitating what moore says in his movie. the health care system in america obviously isnt a good system, but neither is the health care system in countries like canada.
Also- you talk about "poor Americans". Poor Americans have cable TV, cell phones, video game systems, rims on cars, and no health insurance. This is a problem of priorities in America. Most companies offer health care coverage for people who have basic jobs. I don't feel a bit sorry for a loser who grew up in America & works @ a fast food place. No excuse.
No offense, you really don't know what you're talking about. Socialized medicine is NOT free, you pay out of your pocket for it. Also- you think you just arrive @ the hospital and you're taken care of? Try again, you'll wait for your turn for 6-12 months. Unless it's an emergency, you're getting NO service. That's the truth of socialized medicine.
What do you know about socialized medicine? I`m a critical care nurse from/and working in Norway. We have socialized medicine, it`s free and it`s good. Waiting 6-12 months for treatment are a bull-shit statment, where do you have that from?. We never think have much a treatment costs, if the patient needs the treatment. And it is the treating doctor that desides what treatment a pasient should have, not an board of finance people.
No offense sir, but I would gladly pay a higher tax in order to have Universal Health Care. I hate taxes, but in this case it's critical that this country does something. People are dying because of big bussiness
God youre fat
cwood4ever 8 months ago
i can see y this guy wants socialized health care......he gonna need it soon
ghazalhora 1 year ago
I believe Napoleon was under the revolutionary system. He wasn't overthrown; he was beaten on the battlefield. Before Napoleon the upper-class were overthrown because they lived in obscene richness whilst the rest starved.
geoffart 1 year ago
well, I try to convince Americans the NHS generally works... but a lot of them just don't want to believe it (some socialism is good). You don't want the state to run your life, but there are some things private companies cannot run; the health service is one of those things.
geoffart 1 year ago
I am just like you, I work very hard and pay about 40% of my money for taxes and my home and I have no money left for insurance that cost about 400.00 a month per person. Hope things will change soon for all of us
germagic2 1 year ago
You've got to be kidding me. $25 -$50 thousand in medical debt? That's a big window. Which is it? 25 or 50. You got health treatment right? Just move to Cuba and you'll get what you want.
yosamc 2 years ago
isn't that the starwars kid ???
anteracmacash 2 years ago
I feel you bro man this country is so f**ed up it makes my blood boil with rage, this insurance guys give a shit about the american people. All they want is our money. We the people should fight for our rights this is inhumane!!!
iceblue775 3 years ago
--- ABSOLUTELY IF I pay 400$ I want a HEALTH INSURANCE PROTECTION. I do not care ABOUT INSURANCE profits.
aviomaster 3 years ago
From 2000 to 2005, health insurance premiums rose by 73%, compared to an aggregate increase in workers income of just 15%. (Chicago Tribune, Jan. 31, 2006) Premiums rose three times faster than wages and inflation in 2005 (UC Berkeley Center for Labor research and Education, Dec. 2006).
jediknight36 3 years ago
About one-third of medical spending is now devoted to services that dont appear to improve health or the quality of care, meaning the U.S. wastes more than $650 billion per year (IHSP), more than is being spent on the war in Iraq (John Abramson, Harvard Medical School, column, Los Angeles Times, Nov. 3, 2006).
jediknight36 3 years ago
Over 30% of every healthcare dollar is spent on administrative overhead in private insurance compared to just 3.2% in-Medicare administrative costs. (Institute for Health and Socio-Economic Policy)
jediknight36 3 years ago
The potential economic value to be gained in better health outcomes from uninterrupted coverage for all Americans is estimated to be between $65 and $130 billion each year. (Institute of Medicine, June 17, 2003)
jediknight36 3 years ago
Nearly 30% of low and middle-income households with credit card debt cite medical debt as a contributing factor; 69% of those had a major medical expense in the previous three years (Borrowing to Stay Healthy: How Credit Card Debt Is Related to Medical Expenses, Demos,The Access Project, January, 2007)
jediknight36 3 years ago
Half of all personal bankruptcies are caused by illness or medical bills. The number of medical bankruptcies has increased by 2200% since 1981 (Health Affairs, February, 2005). Two-thirds of people with a medical bill or debt problem went without needed care due to cost (Commonwealth Fund,Aug. 2005).
jediknight36 3 years ago
One-fifth of all Americans, 48.8 million individuals, were in families spending more than 10% of their family income on healthcare in 2003, an increase of 11.7 million persons since 1996. Of these, 18.7 million (7.3%) were spending more than 20% of family income, a figure normally associated with home ownership.
jediknight36 3 years ago
The percent of middle-income Americans (22.7%) spending over 10% of their income on healthcare was almost identical to the percent of low-income Americans (23.7%) on healthcare (JAMA, Dec. 13, 2006).
jediknight36 3 years ago
--- HEALTH care in USA is bullshit , IT should be called health CARE for the rich .
aviomaster 3 years ago
sara5893 --- YOU can suck BULLS DICK . I work 6/24 probably sleeping very little ,.. IN rich COMPANY , I DO not have HEALTH INSURANCE , I can afford to pay for it , BUT WHAT I am getting , THAT is my question, PAYING 400$ a month for HEALTH CARE that covers only basic CARE, FUCK THIS HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
aviomaster 3 years ago
Thank you so much. An update: We can afford health insurance, but acording to the insurance companies, we would have to pay out of pocket on nearly everything we need insurance for in addition to the insurance, co pays, deductibles, and what ever they decide to charge us. We must get Obama to pass HR 676!
jediknight36 3 years ago
One more thing, you are 23 and a student. So b/c you do not want to buy insurance I, working mother of three has to pay higher taxes for you? NO, I pay my bills, I pay other goverment bills, Get a better job. I'm sick of paying higher and higher taxes for other ppl to not be responsible. I take care of my kids WITH OUT others. BTW I'm 41
sara5893 3 years ago
Well, I am so happy that your daughter has the opportunity to pay into the corrupt system they call health care. We CHOOSE rent and groceries over the $700 health plan they offer. And, btw, we both work at a place getting kids like your daughter to and from school safely getting paid less than some grocery stockers. We don't choose this, we have to get by. And England only pays .5% more in taxes than we do.
jediknight36 3 years ago
They have free medical and dental, and education. Its people like you that is wrong with America. If people like you were less concerned with money and more concerned with your fellow man, maybe we wouldn't be in this god forsaken death trap they call the war on terror. Thats why England is backing out, because they cant afford to make war AND take care of their own.
jediknight36 3 years ago
SCREW you Buddy, Ppl like me MADE the USA. PPl like me work our asses off every day and and take responsiblity for moving up to bigger and better positions in our careers as to better the lives of our children. Ppl like me strive to improve life not wine about what we aren't getting from the goverment. Life isn't about money, it's about pushing one's self to their highest. My concern of my fellow man? Ppl like you assume that b/c I want others to support themselve I do not care! Typical!
sara5893 3 years ago
Actually the free slave labor made the USA, and you should know when to admit your wrong. People with your mentality, of fuck everyone else I am going to better my life and my families only is why this place is going downhill. We are supposed to take care of each other, not just ourselves. Use some common sense.
tootshed23 3 years ago
Slavery only existed in the south because of cotton. If it wasn't because of cotton then slavery would have ended in the 1830's. Slaves did not build the factories of the North; slaves did not work in those factories. While yes the people who worked there got payed little and lived horribly by todays standards. Remember this; those people got better wages and better living conditions than the rest of the world at that time. We still do.
tegalans 3 years ago
sara5893: "Ppl like you assume that b/c I want others to support themselve I do not care! Typical!"
You seem to be more of a sociopath than a normal caring person.
Dovenpeis 3 years ago
The funny thing is that you already pay a lot of money (even though it is not in tax) in your health insurance because many other people can't afford the insurance, and if they could you would actually get a cheaper insurance.
larsedvartl 3 years ago
Thats what they want you to think. Their system is one that puts profits before people. The system is not designed to help people. It is designed to make money by not helping people. Why should I have to pay into a system that wont help me when I need it to? Why should I have to deal with a person sitting in an office who's job it is to deny my human right to health care?
jediknight36 3 years ago
First off where does your wife work? Ya know my 18yr daughter got insurance when she worked at McDee's.
sara5893 3 years ago
USA health care scares me. Those without concern for people with reduced means to pay lack all sorts of wisdom and foresight.
Your monolithic insurance companies appear to gorge themselves while denying basic care to the underprivileged (not lazy). I'm a registered nurse in Aus and we dont discharge someone unless they are well and have somewhere safe to go. All care is free if youre not insured. I'm not insured because the public system is fine. Some probs, but nothin like the US. Very sad...
tasmanellem 3 years ago
watch the movie tard. how come a lazy french guy doesn't have to pay for college education, health care: heck, he even gets a free nanny and his laundry done for free.
you're a stupid republican who doens't know anything. get lost.
normalais 4 years ago
This man is LAZY and blames eveyone else for his problems. Health Care is not a right.While you smoke your cigs you want free health care. What war were you in? You only fight for first place in the all you can eat line. Personal resposiblity take it for once.
LivengoodTodd 4 years ago
1st of all, I dont smoke. 2nd, I was in the Navy. 3rd, It is in the constitution that we have the right to LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS! Health Care falls under at least 2 of those! *R-Tard!*
jediknight36 4 years ago
Americans are just silly people. They work until they die. THIS ist their American Dream.
I live in Europea, I get free health insurance, free housing, and free money for healthy-food.. I can live like a KING in europe. I would NEVERE EVER want this disgusting american citizenship. gross !
patrick25w 4 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Just one problem... you have to live in europe... ew.
mrpickle666666 4 years ago
i'm a citizen of both USA and european union
after i'm done with school and off to europe and never coming back. europe is sooo much cooler then USA.
in souther france girls walk around with no bras! in germany there's no speed limits. heck, you can drive 100mph thru europe. i just did. didn't even get pulled over.
I love europe. I've lived in USA half my life and in europe the other half. USA sucks compared to europe.
normalais 4 years ago
Go see the movie and then decide
Fringe111 4 years ago
Well, it works for EVERY OTHER WESTERN INDUSTRIALIZED NATION IN THE WORLD. There is your ultimate proof.
jediknight36 4 years ago
No, Im a full time employee. They just want one paycheck a month to pay for health insurance. I only get 2.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Show me.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Good luck. i hope you find success.
irishgrappler1069 4 years ago
Well, Im hoping and praying that HR 676 that gives free health care goes through. Then we wont have to.
jediknight36 4 years ago
There is no such thing as free health care dude. You are going to get socked with another 3.5% percent payroll tax. The upper income earners get socked an additional 5% health tax. Why is their responsibility for me or you? Furthermore, if they work for someone, they get nailed with another 8.5% tax cut, plus get hit with another 15% on capital gains. Do you think its fair to tax someone 23.5% on top of the 38% they already pay?
dragonlord10 4 years ago
well, thats not bad. Its still better than the $400-600 /mo they pay for health insurance plus co-pays, plus deductibles. So people will be saving money. And if anyone looses their job, they are still covered. Its free as in no out of pocket expenses. And according to the national average, its 32% which is cheeper than england who has the same system we are trying for. If they can do it, why not us?
jediknight36 4 years ago
Dude..try this again. My family makes 72k. Our bracket after AGI is 22%. Now you want me to pay another 3.5% on top of that 22%? Not to mention HR676 repeals all of Bush's tax cuts. Means my capital gains tax goes from 15% to 28%. So, if I pull money from my Forex account, I get hit with 28%...every time. Let's say I pull money once. What gives you the right to tell me that I have to pay over 1/4 of my income plus additional 28% in CG?
dragonlord10 4 years ago
instead of what you normally pay in health insurance? yea. Id say thats fair, if you want to be a dick about it. If it works for every other western industrialized nation, why not here? Im telling you that it really wont be that bad, if we stand up and tell the government that that last thing we want is taxes raised. Thats the worst that could happen though. And when you get sick and cant afford your co-pay or deductible maybe you will realize it.
jediknight36 4 years ago
I see. So it is perfectly acceptable to have me pay over 40% of my income for you? I got bad news for you. HR 676 if you have read it is all about taxes. Where do you think I got the numbers from? The bill itself. Oh, and also, it will fall under medicare. Which means, you do not have a choice of who to see. They tell you. In short, you, your doctors, have been slaves to the government.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
If you have seen "sicko", the so called slaves have million dollar homes and drive BMWs. I wouldnt mind being that kind of slave. It wouldnt be for me. It for you, your family, friends, neighbors. We all pay the same. You have this attitude like you are better than me because you have more money. So if you go bankrupt tomorrow, what then? And that causes you to have a heart attack and cant afford the surgery? What then?
jediknight36 4 years ago
Forget Sicko, did you read the bill? If you did not read the bill submitted by this dude, you have no idea what he is about to do to us. Also, been bankrupt. I am on year 4 of 7 for discharge clearance. There is a better way than to slam the ones who already gave too much. I pay for welfare, foodstamps, section 8. I have paid more than enough. When does it end?
dragonlord10 4 years ago
I read the bill. I cant wait for its aprovial. SO the poor can get food and shelter, but only if you are extremely poor. But they still cant go to a doc. But thats ok, because you GAVE TODAY! Im not slamming you, but you seem to have a really bad attitude. Its called helping your fellow man. Not everyone makes $72k/yr. Why should health care be a privlige to people like you while people like me who take your kid to school might die tomorrow thankless.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Amazing...you would advocate the stealing of additional monies to pay for something that ultimately is your responsibility.You know, I served my country. Most of you have not. I fought for every scrap of dignity. Most of you have not. I never begged any man for help. Why? I am an American. I have pride in myself. I never look the government for all the answers. I find them myself. Why? Innovation. Pride.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
SO have I! Im not begging anyone. But from what you just said, I am responsible for my own well being! Oh, so I need to prescribe my own meds and do surgery on myself. And I guess you didnt use the military's health hare at all, because that would be begging the government? Answer me this. Why do you think health care is a privilege to the elite?
jediknight36 4 years ago
Elite? Elite is what you make out of it. You can win. You can lose. There is no guarantee. My Constitution gives the right to purse happiness. It never said you were going to win.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
So because I am poor I cant pursue happiness? The constitution says nothing about rich or poor. Its supposed to be a democracy but people like you change that so that your class rule and our class die from disease and medical bills.
jediknight36 4 years ago
What class? You do not think I am just as vulnerable as you for medical bills? Also, we as a country happened to be a limited democracy. We are a republic. Rule of Law as opposed to Mob Rule. Think hard son, you are willing to enslave an entire nation on the concept of "free health care".
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Enslave like how? Freeing you and everybody from the worry of health care? Do you know what it is like to pray everyday you dont get sick? Cause if you get sick you dont go to work and cant make money. Your car gets repo-ed, and you get kicked out of your 1 bdrm apt. Do you know what thats like for over half of the country?
jediknight36 4 years ago
Enslave by virtue of no longer being the master of your life. What makes you think the Feds will not one day make the determination that if you are not worth anything to society, then they simply pull the plug? What are you going to do? Sue? I don't think so. They are immune. Know why? Because you let them. You gave them control, willingly. Think they won't use it?
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Well, it dosnt happen in all the other countries!
jediknight36 4 years ago
Then move! Good lord, they don't have our population. They have our infrastructure. Hell, they don't even have anything remotely close to our style of government. They pay taxes through the nose but their quality of life blows. Our poor lives better than they do in terms of QoL.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Not really. Great Britian pays less average than we do in taxes and they get universal health care. You dont see hobos on the streets outside the palace, and everyone takes care of each other. Why dont you get out, since you like paying so much. You are not the majority here.
jediknight36 4 years ago
I know I'm not. We became of nation of people who want everything for free instead of working hard for it. My kind will die out in the end. When my kind dies, so does this country. No longer will out nation know pride. Ethics, morality gone. We teach our children to not be men. But to be submissive. The liberal mantra: submit, comply, adjust.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Its not that. You assume too much. It all falls on the fact you think you are better than me because you can afford something that is right. Its in the constitution. LIFE, is the first thing humans are entitled to. And you pay the insurance companies to kill us.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Yes it is that. You will trade freedom for slavery. You would take from me what does not belong to you. You would take from a great many other's. Like those who begged the government for security at the expense of liberty, you will offer yourself as a lamb.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Oh, preachy are we? What freedom do the other western industrialized nations give up? Tell me? Do you even know? Yes, it belongs to me, and to everyone else. And first and for most I believe it needs to come from the insurance companies that kill so many for cash. But thats me being preachy.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Well, lets see, most of the western nations are socialist for starters. Democracy is merely a word to them. It means nothing. Again, I can solve the problem. Using my PM class, after reading this garbage 676, I decided to formulate the plan and copyright it and request a face to face with my Senator. Before you enslave my nation, I will want to fight for it.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Oh, and protesting in the streets of paris and the public getting their way is socialist? better than capitalist where money rules. Then, what is your plan?
jediknight36 4 years ago
Ill take it to email.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Id love to hear your plan, in a nutshell. Hell, it actually might be better.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Email sent.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Well, except for what I sent, dosnt sound too bad. Actually fixed three things at once.
jediknight36 4 years ago
It does. Once I put it all together, I need the numbers from J.L. to see how it will match up and re-tweak. Then I will ask for the face to face with my senator. It is the best program I could think of.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Let me know how far that goes. I like 676, but this seems fair too. It dosnt matter how much you make, you are stil taken care of in the end.
jediknight36 4 years ago
676 has chains. This one doesn't. 676 gives the power to the government in spades. This one really doesn't. Did you get my reply on your latest question?
dragonlord10 4 years ago
no, I got 3 replys to the one before. LOL!
jediknight36 4 years ago
sorry bout that. It kept giving me an error message.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
I am a slave. A slave to this health care system. And if something dosnt change, I will die a slave too. And my family and friends too.
jediknight36 4 years ago
With your condition, yes you are. Again, easy to fix if it is done right.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
I am what?
jediknight36 4 years ago
Now...a man, a good one, would think hard of what he wants. Freedom at a cost, or slavery for free. I can solve the problem you have. It is simple in explanation, hard to implement, but very, very doable.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Like the slave doctors that have bmws and million dollar mansions in england?
jediknight36 4 years ago
Actually, if you read how they do things, the incentives and what not, that is not in 676. So our doctors here will be federal employees. Slaves. Oh sure 676 allows for them to maintain their salary, it doesn't guarantee it.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Works for everyone else. Just not you.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Oh and the military hospital. Yes I used it. Once. Is it begging? Nope. It was part of my contract with United States. In return for my service and my life if need be, the United States government would pay me, take care of me, and educate me. I have fulfilled their requirements and they have fulfilled mine.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
But you begged the government according to your own words.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Well since you are in "higher education", perhaps a class in business law is needed. No one begged anyone. It was a contract. Two parties agreed. They want my service, I wanted compensation. They said yes, I said yes. I could have said no.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
But you didn't purchase insurance? Didnt pay your own way like you are toting around? Thats socialized medicine, government slave! What was so bad about that? I dont hear you complaining about the other socialized programs in effect. Or do you want us all to pay for fire department insurance and police department insurance?
jediknight36 4 years ago
Why do you think I used their hospital once? However, yes they did have insurance for life/death etc.. My care once again was a contract. That contract was accepted by the American people as part of DoD budget. What you want is something completely different. Oh and if you rent an apartment, you should have fire insurance. And yes, you get to pay that 20 dollars for it, not me.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
SO there is an insurance that you pay a deductible for when your house is on fire and cant get it put out until your copay is met? And maybe they only put out 2/3 of it, and tell you to put the other 1/3 out yourself?
jediknight36 4 years ago
You are 23. Judging by the video, overweight. Did I shove the big macs down your throat? Did I force you to drink an entire bathtub of soda while playing video games? Did I prevent from gaining a higher education so you can succeed with the rest of us? I did not. So why should I be further penalized and further prohibited form living my life?
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Excuse me, but I dont even like fast food you bigot. I am in school, not that you knew that because you assume. I am getting a higher education but no thanks to my parents. BTW mr tax man, but when you apply for FA you need your parents tax info. They are more broke than I am. So its my fault that I have a medical condition and was born into a poor family?
jediknight36 4 years ago
No you don't need your family's info unless they claim you as a dependant. If you work full time and you claim yourself, FAFSA will drop your EFC code and increase your actual student loan. How do I know? I am in DeVry working on a 55k Degree. Not to mention I dropped an additional 7k on MCSE training. Remove your parents from the equation, you win. If you work fulltime, keep it under 62k for max Pell Grant.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
FASFA said my parents still counted when I started school, and I make more than their 9k/yr limit. But I can go because I have to rely on my disability. But full time student is required, that means less hours at work. That means I get to take the 3k max/sem to loan to live on! JOY!
jediknight36 4 years ago
Then take your classes online. 51% of my classes are online. I have Project Mgmt 404 right now online along with Science and a lab. This is what I am talking. You are too quick to accept limitations and defeat. Work your away around it. I did.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
How are you able to take hands on classes on line? Lab is needed too. Ever try holding a virtual camera? The point is, not everyone is like you. Not everyone makes the kind of money you do. Not everyone was as well off as you. Put yourself in our shoes. Or is that what money does to people? Make their hearts cold?
jediknight36 4 years ago
For Devry, it is called iLab. It is an oracle based server application that allows to mimic a lab environment. You don't need a virtual camera. You need to be able to run a macromedia presentation or read a text book. Read the lecture, read the book, watch the lecture, and do the assignments. Take the quizes, etc..Not hard to do. Hell it's easier.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
I love online classes, but you cant do field production or studio production online. Its also hard for people with my disability to understand math only one way. 'I' have to have a teacher. Again, not everyone is like you.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Again, 51% of classes are online. 49% are on-site. Meaning I have classes too. Difference is 8 week online A/B or 15 week single class. And yes I hate math too. Miracle I made it through trig.
dragonlord10 4 years ago
Hating it and mentally not being able to do it because of 'drain bramage' is different.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Just be prepared for being on the heavy end. No matter what you do.. You'll always be viewed as an outsider. You just maybe viewed in the way most Americans view Mexicans comming over the boarder. It's just a fact. It alwasys seem greener, but you'll be giving up A LOT!!
irishgrappler1069 4 years ago
I know americans who have moved to britain , I dont think americans are badly treated especially in other english speaking countrys .
I know there are forums for ex pat americans that give advice about moving new zealand might be nice
watch . An American in Europe On Health Care - PART I
bearsagainstevil 4 years ago
Yea, I know. I am prepared as I can be.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Though, I will say that it's great to live in a country where we can voice our concerns without the fear of being bullied..OPPS, The left and right use both tactics with great success. You're right. the system is jacked, but there has to be a reason the country is being over run . just my two cents.
irishgrappler1069 4 years ago
Its the public's fault. I dont think the public tries secrws them selves, but this all started with nixion.
jediknight36 4 years ago
So you look at the companies to decide the wealth of a country? Im not after corporate America. I just dont believe that profit needs to be made by making people suffer and denying them care.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Realocated and taking your money are not the same. If you have a dictionary, you can look the word up. There might be a tax raise, but if england can do it with less tax than we do, then I dont see why they need to raise taxes.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Thats the media in the US telling you those things. Look elsewhere.
jediknight36 4 years ago
I dont work for the government. I work for a company that contracts through an independent school district.
jediknight36 4 years ago
OH YEAH, by the way... Atleast you have the balls to say you'll move out, but i wonder if you'll give up your citizenship when you do? YOU'RE willing to piss away your rights for this?? Let's hear it?? Are you going to give it up?? That's something i'd like to hear.
irishgrappler1069 4 years ago
They the same rights we do, and exercise them regularly. If thats what it takes, I will.
jediknight36 4 years ago
WOW. best of luck. I lived with the french for soo, long. The grass always seems greener. You got balls, that's for sure.
irishgrappler1069 4 years ago
Really? how are things? My first instinct was Japan, but they have a similar system we do.
jediknight36 4 years ago
i agree... i think "AMERICAN'S" who can't afford health insurance should get something on the lines of the military system. IF you can afford it, you should be able to buy the best you can afford. You are right about one thing. In France, the government is affraid of the public,.. In the USA, it's the other way around.
irishgrappler1069 4 years ago
Thank you. I think everyone is entitled to the same care, no matter the price. Why should someone make a profit from the pain of others. We should take care of each other. Besides, its those of us that make enough money to not qualify for programs, but not enough money for insurance that are in the most trouble.
jediknight36 4 years ago
I live in the uk so Ive had this socialized ussr medicine all my life and its terrific , far less trouble than your insurance profit based system I would say .
I know that no one around me has to go without healthcare , they can be a bum or homeless person doesnt matter I know that they can get healthcare .
Im not keen on giving welfare generally Im a conservative but I think everyone in a rich country deserves to have free health care
bearsagainstevil 4 years ago
See, someone from the other side of the coin. This proves that the system works. Its not without flaws, but lets take the best from all the systems and make the american system.
jediknight36 4 years ago
So, France is tiny and/or communist?
jediknight36 4 years ago
But who would run that pool? You think greed is better suited to run health care than the people it is serving?
jediknight36 4 years ago
And more insurance companies are? Or how about bigger ones? Rich people getting richer and telling you what treatment you can or cannot have?
jediknight36 4 years ago
What problem? It works for me. I guess that makes me the bad guy. Sorry if it doesn't work for you. I've always managed to pay my way. And if I can do it believe me others can to. There are systems that require people to make smart decisions and try hard and other systems that don't. If you want the government to pay your medical bills then I guess vote for a socialist candidate.
iron1215 4 years ago
Well thank you for not being rude to me. We'll just agree to disagree.
iron1215 4 years ago
Hey, you have the right to your opinion. Its these losers that flame people that discourage discussions. So what is your solution?
jediknight36 4 years ago
Great the instead of the $300 government toilet seats we will have 300 million dollar heart surgeries. If the government can't even hold the cost down on a toilet seat how are they to be trusted with taking over the medical system. No thanks.
iron1215 4 years ago
Well, when you have to choose if you pay rent or pay your overdue medical bills, we will see. There will be a day, unless you never plan on being sick.
jediknight36 4 years ago
BTW I do thank you for not being as rude as others. You have been the best, and most intelligent person to oppose this idea on this thread since its start. Thank you.
jediknight36 4 years ago
You just made my point for me. And now you want to give the government more money to run some socialized health care system. No thanks count me out.
iron1215 4 years ago
No, the money needs to be reallocated, like in England. They have a LOWER tax rate than we do. I dont believe any more taxes need to be taken. In fact, you will be saving money. And if they want to take much more money, then I probably would be against that. They are taking too much and not using it properly, but thats my point. If they are going to take it, then use it properly by taking care of its citizens.
jediknight36 4 years ago
I am just a blue collar worker who does not make a lot of money. But I get health insurance through the company I work for. So no I don't want to pay higher taxes just because you don't have health insurance. First thing you can do is loss some weight man. You don't think that's a health hazard.
iron1215 4 years ago
So you are not tired of paying 400/mo or more for your family plus co-pays and deductibles? If not, then you are not only selfish for not caring about your fellow man, but you are also richer than most.
jediknight36 4 years ago
I just wish my fellow man would keep his hands out of my pockets.
iron1215 4 years ago
Well, your already paying for $300 government tolite seats and over paid maintance men working for the government. So you are telling me you would rather those around you suffer while you act high and mighty. And you are telling me you dont want to reallocate those misspent funds to help those around you? When you are denied insurance or coverage when you need it, we shall see.
jediknight36 4 years ago
I completely agree with you...thanks for the intelligent video post!
zobetrop 4 years ago
you don't have to get insurance through your company, there are other companies out there that are cheaper.
DaisyLuvinbutterfly 4 years ago
Maybe, but we cant get covered. We are victims of those who are paid to deny us.
To those who post only negative feedback: If there is anything you say that is not an aid to the discussion, then it will be removed. I dont care that you disagree, as long as you do so intelligently. NO FLAMING!
jediknight36 4 years ago
We plan to. Want to come? Oh wait, you are a pompous American who thinks his bassakward ways are right. Fine, I hope you choke on your own farts.
jediknight36 4 years ago
infowars . com
prisonplanet . tv
thesecret . tv
illtonez1 4 years ago
i liked your video and agree with you
grecoj2 4 years ago
You know nothing sir. You cant even use a keyboard. Quit flaming.
jediknight36 4 years ago
The French riot because somewhere near 20% of them are unemployed and the uneducated young people over there are abused by the police
SJSR45 4 years ago
do you need help?
capital24 4 years ago
We need medical coverage and we cant afford it. Our company wants us to pay between $400/$600 a month just for the two of us.
jediknight36 4 years ago
How do you take a vacation to Utah when you live in Utah? It must be so nice to be rich. And not speak English.
jediknight36 4 years ago
The media? Have you lived in Canada, England, France, ect? You dont wait, and you dont 'pay out of pocket'. If you want the facts, watch 'Sicko'.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Oh poor Americans have all this stuff. Yea, while poor Cubans have some of the best health care in the world. And we wouldn't be 'picking up and moving' either. If you know anything about moving to another country, you need a job there, which I am looking for. But in the mean time I am doing something here. 2 of my closest friends were Canada until 4 months ago, and they really miss the medical they received in Canada.
And if youtube is so teenager, they why are YOU here?
jediknight36 4 years ago
Act now! I've written a letter to my US representative, and I haven't even lived in the country for four years. Watching "Sicko" won't bring us health care. It's our responsibility to make this change.
bluenote71 4 years ago
Actually, I was medically discharged for my asthma. I am writing my congressman about this. I am signing petitions . I am acting for this. I don't work at a fast food joint, I take your kids to and from school. I work, essentially, for the government. And my wife does too.
jediknight36 4 years ago
Because we dont make enough money for two cars, we have to work at the same place. And I get a scholarship to go to school. Americans have bad priorities. Most of the people on this posing have screwed up priorities. And those who say you have to wait in line, who told you that?
jediknight36 4 years ago
I did all today. I wrote our reps in Congress and found that Dennis Kucinich is running for President and that his bill, HR 676, will give us all free health care!
jediknight36 4 years ago
lol Socialized health care isnt close to what you just said. i am canadian in a Socialized health care system and i justbroke my arm 3 months ago and had surgery the next to to rebuild my arm. every thing is free in a Socialized health care system.
saitanic1 4 years ago
taxes contributed everything from the doctor to the paster in your cast so nothing is free but it sure beats what the US has
riserunrest 4 years ago
k, youre an idiot. if you knew anything about the canadian health care system, you would know that, just like "StopIslamoFascism" said, wait times for healthcare in countries with socialized medicine are rediculous. all you're doing is regurgitating what moore says in his movie. the health care system in america obviously isnt a good system, but neither is the health care system in countries like canada.
GGB 4 years ago
Also- you talk about "poor Americans". Poor Americans have cable TV, cell phones, video game systems, rims on cars, and no health insurance. This is a problem of priorities in America. Most companies offer health care coverage for people who have basic jobs. I don't feel a bit sorry for a loser who grew up in America & works @ a fast food place. No excuse.
StopIslamoFascism 4 years ago
I suggest to you that you watch this movie, you have it all wrong
Fringe111 4 years ago
No offense, you really don't know what you're talking about. Socialized medicine is NOT free, you pay out of your pocket for it. Also- you think you just arrive @ the hospital and you're taken care of? Try again, you'll wait for your turn for 6-12 months. Unless it's an emergency, you're getting NO service. That's the truth of socialized medicine.
StopIslamoFascism 4 years ago
What do you know about socialized medicine? I`m a critical care nurse from/and working in Norway. We have socialized medicine, it`s free and it`s good. Waiting 6-12 months for treatment are a bull-shit statment, where do you have that from?. We never think have much a treatment costs, if the patient needs the treatment. And it is the treating doctor that desides what treatment a pasient should have, not an board of finance people.
ratatosk1 4 years ago
No offense sir, but I would gladly pay a higher tax in order to have Universal Health Care. I hate taxes, but in this case it's critical that this country does something. People are dying because of big bussiness
Fringe111 4 years ago