Why not just take light cuts on a planer and never use a jointer for faces? Put the bow up and thin it slowly. Always seemed easier than this process.
@homosapienssapiens19 You cut it down, wide boards will cup anyways. So rip it to logical widths, plane it down as needed and leave a little extra for after glue up to be sanded smooth. If you must a belt sander running 45 degrees to the lumber over the joints then orbital sand to finish. Tip: keep boards flush on glue up.
I love this video and I am going to make lots of clamps for my shop but I wonder if you could use multiple dowels instead of finger jointing. I guess that could be a way of testing the Dowel max jig vs the finger joints
A workable method indeed, but it really makes me cringe to see your hands passing over the cutterhead, especially on such a short board. To me, it feels much more assuring safety-wise to use push-paddles. Plus, using them, I can/am willing to put more pressure on the board, especially with very hard woods, which can bounce a lot as they are being planed.
A workable method indeed, but it really makes me cringe to see your hands passing over the cutterhead, especially on such a short board. To me, it feels much more assuring safety-wise to use push-paddles. Plus, using them, I can/am willing to put more pressure on the board, especially with very hard woods, which can bounce a lot as they are being planed.
Thanks for the tip I just had this problem on the video I am currently making. I ended up ripping the board (still too wide) and using my drum sander.
If you start with a curved or twisted board on the planer, it will still be curved or twisted when you finish.
For thin stock, that might be desirable, because you can just force it straight when you attach it to what you are building, but for thick stock, that's a problem.
It's still not flat. If you repeatedly jointed the same face in the same place making the cut deeper and deeper, essentially making a really wide rabbet, you would have a dead flat area with a step running the length that was still rough. Then you take a known flat board the size of your jointer (to place on the dead flat spot), then turn over and register that in your planer. Plane the opposite side than what you jointed. When that is flat, turn back over and plane off the rough step.
The technique you describe is the particularly awkward technique I want to avoid. Because if you don't make your first cut deep enough, you are screwed.
Before you say "it isn't flat" - how about trying it out?
@tribalwind, i would hit it with a router and a flattening jig, and all would be as loud as this method. in the end a couple swings with a jack plane and one chilled drpepper would run down my throath to provide some new energy to hit some new boards!
Wow, you must have just posted this as I'm the first to view it and the first to comment. Not that it wins me any kind of prize, but it's never happened to me. Hmmm.....
Nice little video, Mr. Wandel. Always a pleasure to see your new videos!
not that I don't like the pantorouter or all your other jigs (the screw advancing for tablesaw one is fantastic). But you have to admit you're the first one who likes building jigs :D
Thanks for the tip, i justed planed 10in oak board this way with my 6in jointer
GrenierJeff 1 week ago
And all this time I have been using a planer sled with hot glue and shims. A major PITA! I'm gonna try this next time for sure.
TheVTRainMan 1 month ago
Why not just take light cuts on a planer and never use a jointer for faces? Put the bow up and thin it slowly. Always seemed easier than this process.
tconst17 1 month ago
Is that a mastercraft planer? im looking at getting one, would you reccomend it?
Thanks.
TheInternalKillerXx 1 month ago
Yes. I got it because it was cheap. Worked adequately so far.
Matthiaswandel 1 month ago
I wonder if your jointed side would come out level & truly flat with this method.
joshuafarnsworth 2 months ago
All very well, but what do you do if the booard is more then twice as wide?
homosapienssapiens19 7 months ago
@homosapienssapiens19 You cut it down, wide boards will cup anyways. So rip it to logical widths, plane it down as needed and leave a little extra for after glue up to be sanded smooth. If you must a belt sander running 45 degrees to the lumber over the joints then orbital sand to finish. Tip: keep boards flush on glue up.
sudy5997 1 month ago
Omg! you scared me!! 0:35
MrJplattus 8 months ago
I love this video and I am going to make lots of clamps for my shop but I wonder if you could use multiple dowels instead of finger jointing. I guess that could be a way of testing the Dowel max jig vs the finger joints
rickyrosan 8 months ago
A workable method indeed, but it really makes me cringe to see your hands passing over the cutterhead, especially on such a short board. To me, it feels much more assuring safety-wise to use push-paddles. Plus, using them, I can/am willing to put more pressure on the board, especially with very hard woods, which can bounce a lot as they are being planed.
martinjcamp 1 year ago
you probably need to sharpen and adjust your blades if you get bounce.
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago
@Matthiaswandel - Amen to your recommendation. Thanks. I often use old/recycled materials, and my knives aren't always in the best condition.
martinjcamp 1 year ago
A workable method indeed, but it really makes me cringe to see your hands passing over the cutterhead, especially on such a short board. To me, it feels much more assuring safety-wise to use push-paddles. Plus, using them, I can/am willing to put more pressure on the board, especially with very hard woods, which can bounce a lot as they are being planed.
martinjcamp 1 year ago
Or you could use a hand plane to get a reasonably flat surface for the planer.
gschjetne 1 year ago
Matt! You’re a legend! :)
ethomfactusest 1 year ago
Thanks for the tip I just had this problem on the video I am currently making. I ended up ripping the board (still too wide) and using my drum sander.
BradburyGuy 1 year ago
But what if your board is wider than the planer? :-/
kresimircindric 1 year ago 5
Then you are SOL.
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago 11
@kresimircindric then you would have to plane by hand. D:
jhz925 1 year ago
what brand is your thicknesser?
collolup1 1 year ago
haha the jionter is my favortie machine! :D
the disc sander is the scariest :O
in my opinion that is
miiror13 1 year ago
why not just start on the planer?
RDJim 1 year ago
If you start with a curved or twisted board on the planer, it will still be curved or twisted when you finish.
For thin stock, that might be desirable, because you can just force it straight when you attach it to what you are building, but for thick stock, that's a problem.
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago
It's still not flat. If you repeatedly jointed the same face in the same place making the cut deeper and deeper, essentially making a really wide rabbet, you would have a dead flat area with a step running the length that was still rough. Then you take a known flat board the size of your jointer (to place on the dead flat spot), then turn over and register that in your planer. Plane the opposite side than what you jointed. When that is flat, turn back over and plane off the rough step.
atmike1 1 year ago
The technique you describe is the particularly awkward technique I want to avoid. Because if you don't make your first cut deep enough, you are screwed.
Before you say "it isn't flat" - how about trying it out?
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago 3
i like the "router on skis" method. tiny piece liek that i'd hit with a jack plane first
tribalwind 1 year ago
@tribalwind, i would hit it with a router and a flattening jig, and all would be as loud as this method. in the end a couple swings with a jack plane and one chilled drpepper would run down my throath to provide some new energy to hit some new boards!
ploetzlich30 1 year ago
Hail the wood wizard :)
barakuda1111 1 year ago 26
Wow, you must have just posted this as I'm the first to view it and the first to comment. Not that it wins me any kind of prize, but it's never happened to me. Hmmm.....
Nice little video, Mr. Wandel. Always a pleasure to see your new videos!
locoken 1 year ago
@locoken Guess I wasn't the first as others beat me in but cool, nonetheless. =)
locoken 1 year ago
This is extremely simple. Why don't other people use this method? Are there any real disadvantages to using this method compared to others?
unusualcatperson 1 year ago
Doesn't work quite as well for really long boards.
But mostly, I think people like to build fancy jigs
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago 10
@Matthiaswandel Haha, makes sense. Thanks for the reply :)
unusualcatperson 1 year ago
@Matthiaswandel ...Pfft, fancy jigs.
You don't like to build such unnessecary things, huh? ;P
Serostern 1 year ago
@Matthiaswandel
Says the man who invented the Pantorouter : )
hypnolobster 1 year ago
@Matthiaswandel Oh yeah, people who make fancy jigs are just terrible, aren't they? Just joking, I love all of your jigs and vids!
7pulford 1 year ago
@Matthiaswandel Said the man who uses a pantograph ^_^.
sorry, I had to say that :P
not that I don't like the pantorouter or all your other jigs (the screw advancing for tablesaw one is fantastic). But you have to admit you're the first one who likes building jigs :D
Shannariano 1 year ago