Why are americans so fucked up on the topic of racism? Discriminating and treating people like inferiors because of ethnical origins = racism.
Making a little fun of stereotypes = fun. White people does it. Black people does it. Yellow people does it. Brown people does it. Red people, well, they probably do it too... they've got all the right in the world to do so. It's not like it ruins lives to have a little laugh.
@onkelmonokkel What we call today racism is part of human nature and will never go away. It's just been driven under ground. You should accept people for who they are and not because thy are just like you. But a joke is a joke and no oneshould be offended by it. That's the reason there are no funny TV shows anymore you just can't make fun of anyone anymore. What I wouln't give to hear a good Pollock joke.
what do you call this kind of music? what genre would it be labeled as? I love it that old movies have this kind of music in them, but I don't know where or how to start searching. it sounds like there's a whole orchestra behind the singer and I love it. can anybody help please?
@epikkalypse This is called "Pop Fifties" or "Fifties Pop" it's normally the music of the years following World War II andthe Mid fifties when Rock N Roll came of age. But the music extened throug out the sixties as well. I think this period had the best Bands and singers of any peiod in our hitory. But the media has forgotten that there ever was any music in the fifties except for Rock.
@KillOffGANGREP14 thanks man, that helps. I agree. can't say it's my favorite kind of music (yet), but I do think it's sad that people don't get exposed to it anymore.
It is racist. The two kids are dying of starvation. And the doctor is telling them to eat shortning bread because it was the cheapest bread you could buy and it was basically just lard. It was considered typical for the blacks because they couldn't afford the expensive bread. It was extremely racist. Check out Charles Mingus's version of 'Shortnin' Bread'..about how Mammy's little baby REALLY loves truffles, caviar (caviar?) and all the "fine" things in life. :)
Does anyone remember when Ethel sang this song on stage on "I Love Lucy" in her Albuquerque home? I get a laugh everytime I hear this song thinking about the antics Ricky, Lucy and Fred were doing on stage when Ethel was singing this song.
That would explain the presence of Eddy's vocal of "Shortnin' Bread" in the Porky Pig film, "Swooner Crooner" (directed by Frank Tashlin), where the pig was auditioning new roosters. (spoiler alert: Eddy didn't win, but neither did the "Cab Calloway" rooster)
@danielmkubacki That's unfortunate, because "Mammy" is more "southern" - of a bygone era - than a term used by slaves. If you remember (or research) the long-running comic strip "Li'l Abner," you'll see that one of the main characters was a corncob-pipe-smoking old white woman called Mammy Yokum. There are many other examples.
But if the word "Mammy" offends you, just sing the song with "Mama" instead.
@danielmkubacki What term? "Mama?" I sing the song but with no "dialect" and without the word "Mammy." The song as I sing it has no racial connotation at all, unless you think shortning bread is something cooked and consumed only by one race.
My 8th grade music teacher ascribed racism to to this song, & I couldn't see why at the time, All I could think of was the songs upbeat tone & I couldn't see the "N" word anywhere. Being more savvy now, I can see why one would consider it condescending, & why some may hesitate to perform it publically now.
As much as it makes me cringe to hear Nelson try to do a southern drawl, I have to admit this song is a guilty pleasure. Sometimes as I get supper together, particularly if my wife is out of earshot, I catch myself singing this, usually the part about six months in jail eatin' shortenin' bread!
This recording is the epitome of the blackface minstrel-show acts by white artists in the early 20th C. Atrociously laughable. Thanks for posting it, lest we forget.
@SandyInSD Yes this was a Minstrel Show Act Song that was made popular by many acts of the day. And it may be laughable or outrages by to days standards. Some would like to pretend that this period never happened. But you can't change history that's the way we were.
@SandyInSD 'lest we forget'. Forget what? To me the song has always been a song my mother sang. Until I did a google on it (trying to find the right words to correct the hodge podge I was singing to my kids) I didn't even realize there was anything racial behind it. Mum didn't sing 'Mammy's' she sang 'Mumma's'.
When I hear the song I feel comforted. As a child I was ill a lot & when I was my Mum rocked me & sang. One of the songs she sang was 'Shortin Bread'. I love the song.
I knew some Nelson Eddy's hits (mainly the ones he would sing with Jeannette Mac Donald, eg "Indian Love Call") due to my parents' records, and this one through Disney's cartoon. Such a nice song! Thanks for posting.
I remember as a young boy in the 40's hearing Eddy's recording on the radio. It's the only version that I remember. It took me many years to find a copy of it.
Why are americans so fucked up on the topic of racism? Discriminating and treating people like inferiors because of ethnical origins = racism.
Making a little fun of stereotypes = fun. White people does it. Black people does it. Yellow people does it. Brown people does it. Red people, well, they probably do it too... they've got all the right in the world to do so. It's not like it ruins lives to have a little laugh.
onkelmonokkel 5 days ago
@onkelmonokkel What we call today racism is part of human nature and will never go away. It's just been driven under ground. You should accept people for who they are and not because thy are just like you. But a joke is a joke and no oneshould be offended by it. That's the reason there are no funny TV shows anymore you just can't make fun of anyone anymore. What I wouln't give to hear a good Pollock joke.
markalson1938 4 days ago
what do you call this kind of music? what genre would it be labeled as? I love it that old movies have this kind of music in them, but I don't know where or how to start searching. it sounds like there's a whole orchestra behind the singer and I love it. can anybody help please?
epikkalypse 3 weeks ago
@epikkalypse This is called "Pop Fifties" or "Fifties Pop" it's normally the music of the years following World War II andthe Mid fifties when Rock N Roll came of age. But the music extened throug out the sixties as well. I think this period had the best Bands and singers of any peiod in our hitory. But the media has forgotten that there ever was any music in the fifties except for Rock.
KillOffGANGREP14 3 weeks ago
@KillOffGANGREP14 thanks man, that helps. I agree. can't say it's my favorite kind of music (yet), but I do think it's sad that people don't get exposed to it anymore.
epikkalypse 2 weeks ago
It is racist. The two kids are dying of starvation. And the doctor is telling them to eat shortning bread because it was the cheapest bread you could buy and it was basically just lard. It was considered typical for the blacks because they couldn't afford the expensive bread. It was extremely racist. Check out Charles Mingus's version of 'Shortnin' Bread'..about how Mammy's little baby REALLY loves truffles, caviar (caviar?) and all the "fine" things in life. :)
FattyMcFatpantss 5 months ago
See my Shortnin Bread video on DonSmales channel. Hope you like it.
I couldn't figure out how to post a link to it.
DonSmales 5 months ago
this song sounds awesome when a marching band plays it
jeffhardy1288 5 months ago
Does anyone remember when Ethel sang this song on stage on "I Love Lucy" in her Albuquerque home? I get a laugh everytime I hear this song thinking about the antics Ricky, Lucy and Fred were doing on stage when Ethel was singing this song.
Jiltedin2007 5 months ago
It would be even funnier if "Ethel May Potter" were to sing this song on stage.
Jiltedin2007 5 months ago
pictures made my hungy
MHmaster24 6 months ago
I have it on good authority that Mammy's Little Baby did love shortnin' bread.
vpo2g2 6 months ago
Nothing wrong with this kind of music. Was not racist then and is not now! Only people who no nothing about it think it was racist.
TheSealOfTheRose 7 months ago 8
@TheSealOfTheRose Your right, but some people see racist behind every rock if it will further their polictical
aims.
markalson1938 7 months ago 7
@markalson1938 Well, 'Mammy', and 'chillun' are suggestive as hell towords racism
NintendoJohnWii 5 months ago
@NintendoJohnWii These words represent a historical dialect, which is nothing to be ashamed of. People are TOO SENSITIVE!!!
ztnagobw 3 months ago
was this meant to be a "racial" thing?
floridaman2000 8 months ago
That would explain the presence of Eddy's vocal of "Shortnin' Bread" in the Porky Pig film, "Swooner Crooner" (directed by Frank Tashlin), where the pig was auditioning new roosters. (spoiler alert: Eddy didn't win, but neither did the "Cab Calloway" rooster)
professortheremin 9 months ago
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danielmkubacki 9 months ago
@danielmkubacki That's unfortunate, because "Mammy" is more "southern" - of a bygone era - than a term used by slaves. If you remember (or research) the long-running comic strip "Li'l Abner," you'll see that one of the main characters was a corncob-pipe-smoking old white woman called Mammy Yokum. There are many other examples.
But if the word "Mammy" offends you, just sing the song with "Mama" instead.
WildeNotesMusic 8 months ago
@WildeNotesMusic Not me. Some African American people dont like that term.
danielmkubacki 8 months ago
@danielmkubacki What term? "Mama?" I sing the song but with no "dialect" and without the word "Mammy." The song as I sing it has no racial connotation at all, unless you think shortning bread is something cooked and consumed only by one race.
WildeNotesMusic 7 months ago
like if death at a funeral brought u hear
killerprey777 10 months ago 3
My 8th grade music teacher ascribed racism to to this song, & I couldn't see why at the time, All I could think of was the songs upbeat tone & I couldn't see the "N" word anywhere. Being more savvy now, I can see why one would consider it condescending, & why some may hesitate to perform it publically now.
niflap 10 months ago
I start singing this song at odd times. It is just stuck in the head.
MAHDLO1956 11 months ago
As much as it makes me cringe to hear Nelson try to do a southern drawl, I have to admit this song is a guilty pleasure. Sometimes as I get supper together, particularly if my wife is out of earshot, I catch myself singing this, usually the part about six months in jail eatin' shortenin' bread!
musicmandon1 1 year ago
ha, wow. I like how all the white hits were just stolen songs from black artists. lame versions as that.
mcgoo721 1 year ago
The pics in the vid make me hungry :P
KimberlyAbreu 1 year ago
This recording is the epitome of the blackface minstrel-show acts by white artists in the early 20th C. Atrociously laughable. Thanks for posting it, lest we forget.
SandyInSD 1 year ago
@SandyInSD Yes this was a Minstrel Show Act Song that was made popular by many acts of the day. And it may be laughable or outrages by to days standards. Some would like to pretend that this period never happened. But you can't change history that's the way we were.
markalson1938 1 year ago 5
@SandyInSD 'lest we forget'. Forget what? To me the song has always been a song my mother sang. Until I did a google on it (trying to find the right words to correct the hodge podge I was singing to my kids) I didn't even realize there was anything racial behind it. Mum didn't sing 'Mammy's' she sang 'Mumma's'.
When I hear the song I feel comforted. As a child I was ill a lot & when I was my Mum rocked me & sang. One of the songs she sang was 'Shortin Bread'. I love the song.
elizamain 3 months ago
Willy the whale.
alex270459 1 year ago
Makin me hungry for some Shortnin bread~
KayKayEnd 1 year ago
I knew some Nelson Eddy's hits (mainly the ones he would sing with Jeannette Mac Donald, eg "Indian Love Call") due to my parents' records, and this one through Disney's cartoon. Such a nice song! Thanks for posting.
acla9000 2 years ago
I remember listening to this song on a kids's tape when I was a kid and that was in the 1990's:)
brlaranjo 2 years ago
didn't Eddy sing this on a Disney movie as a whale?
Revcharge 2 years ago 4
Yes, Nelson sang this song on the Disney animated film-Willie the operatic whale who wanted to sing at the Met. Lorraine
Gemini730 2 years ago 12
@Revcharge yeah
lilmissunusual13 1 year ago
One of my favorite Nelson Eddy songs. A charming rendition-I can hear the smile in Nelson`s voice as he sings.
Thank You for sharing with Us. Lorraine
Gemini730 2 years ago 3
I remember as a young boy in the 40's hearing Eddy's recording on the radio. It's the only version that I remember. It took me many years to find a copy of it.
markalson1938 2 years ago 5