Crimes and Misdemeanors: A Discussion: Part 2

[SimpleGraffiti]

i love tht music when hes entering the apartment

[Period8Productions]

Can anyone mp3 the opening music track? I love it!



[sternaparadisea]

not all artists are sincere, that is put their lives in their art...the truer the work of art to the artist's life the more we appreciate its value as moral teaching, but that is not essential for the esthetic value of the work...

[rosario508]

Although the movie ends as such,I find it hard to believe that Judah would never get caught. Three people knew about the murder- Judah, his brother and the actual murderer. That's a fair amount of avenues for discovery.

[Fabstaire]

the only problem I have with this excellent dissertation is the "even those of us who are atheists". Don't even get me started on that.

[DisfiguredCowboy]

These are great videos!  Thanks.

[jasoninparis]

I think C&M is Woody's most cynical movie, and his sequel to this is Match point. An idealistic producer (Farrow) marries a successful arse (Alda), the Holocaust survivor professor jumps out the window, Judah tells Woody at the end that his life is better than ever. Maybe there are those who can resume a great life after getting his mistress murdered, but this is not very believable. Woody spends too much time reading books and watching movies, getting lost in his bellybutton.

[Zerjio]

I think it's just more true to an aspect of life that most people refuse to acknowledge, especially theists. What about those times God didn't answer your prayers? What about those times when things just didn't make any sense? And it ends with a bit of hope, although questionable as everything is, considering it's coming from the dead professor. It's just an exploration of some of the more unpleasant truths of life.

Personally, I think it's brilliant.

[jasoninparis]

Woody's reflections on a cruel world just isn't believable.  We buy into his movies because he's brilliant as a comic. Here's a man who has been blessed all his life. Started making good money before graduating high school writing jokes for comedians, success as a stand-up himself, acting gigs, transition into directing, not to mention going out with beautiful women. His bleak view is just not credible because it all comes from his head. Like any fool who doesn't realise how good he has it,

[Zerjio]

You don't need to be miserable to feel sympathy for an unfortunate person. Also, I doubt all the money, success, and women in the world cannot make a human immune to misery. Everyone is foolish and thinks he has it worse than anyone else. Little kids in third world countries look at the miserable people in the United States and think the same you think about Woody Allen. It's all relative, and that's part of the movie' message.

[eesloan4]

Many ultra rich, privileged people are depressed and cynical. What does his life have to do with whether he can create a meaningful film?

[jasoninparis]

My beef with Woody is that his movies are very morality based, meaning he loves to criticize and moralize human transgressions. His vision of humanity is quite cynical. Yet, when we look at his life, we see him applying very little of his own standard of morality on himself. If he were to make a movie about a successful shrimp of a director who plays daddy to a little adopted Korean girl of his companion, and falls in love with her little past her puberty, I'd have more respect for Woody.

[ph03n1xamb1t]

@jasoninparis

he has stayed with her for over 20 years so I think we can afford him some leeway

[jasoninparis]

he seduces his barely pubescent stepdaughter. Annie Hall and Manhattan are far more believable because he's expressing himself from his own life, from what he has lived and experienced. In C&M, it is intellectually lightweight to suggest that a man can live with unburdened conscience after murdering his mistress, and it is too cliche that the ambitious producer (Farrow) will choose the successful guy over the loser.

[thetruthis24]

@jasoninparis wtf are you talking about? jason you are false.

[Faytastik]

this helped me with hw! you rule

[IllusionBomb]

Really interesting. Good job.

[balapavan]

Good work. Keep them coming.