I don't think religion is the root of all problems, but rather, the lack of education. is.Religious principles are fine. But when you combine a multitude of factors including poverty, desperation and no education, then of course we're going to see religion misrepresented on the whole.The fact is, religious people give more money to charity than atheists. However I can't find the journal but a simple Google search should find it. I too am motivated by religion to DO GOOD and oppose what is wrong.
@SamiZaatari Oh no I must sacrifice all the fun and joys of life so that I don't get poked with a stick and set on fire for ever by a red man with horns. I REALLY don't want to eat pork because the magic man who-looks-like-every-single-person-ever-created will throw me into fire and have me tortured. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH FREE WILL that gays are a curse and should be killed off. I am so happy to be a part of this mindless cult of people afraid of ancient beliefs designed to scare criminals.
It would be foolish to assert that religion is the root of all problems. But it is the cause of many problems and so should be argued against whenever possible and opposed when nessecary.
We seem to agree that the claim is 'absolutely absurd' and 'complete rubbish'. But you go on to defend religion on the basis that it's the least of several evils. Does that strike you as a good argument? Besides, even if religion were good for the world that would not nessecarily prove it true.
The reason? It should be painfully obvious. The god, as your book describes him, and your savior, as his disciples retell, supported the oppression of women, genocide, slavery, human sacrifice, and incest. Jesus, as is retold in the Bible, lays out a definition of how to treat your slaves! If you think I'm lying, then you haven't read the Bible. I urge all religious people to read their own book. I especially urge Sami to read it.
@ZombieVampirez You are just a bitter faggot. So bitter you leave nasty comments to Samir because you disagree with him. I hope you die of AIDS faggot.
The reason? It should be painfully obvious. The god, as your book describes him, and your savior, as his disciples retell, supported the oppression of women, genocide, slavery, human sacrifice, and incest. Jesus, as is retold in the Bible, lays out a definition of how to treat your slaves! If you think I'm lying, then you haven't read the Bible. I urge all religious people to read their own book. I especially urge Sami to read it.
Just to point out, I went to church with my family for several years. Upon discovering my sexuality, I was told by a psychologist to read the Bible, and that it would make me "See god and be good" and such. It did the exact opposite. It reaffirmed my sexuality while also making me an Atheist. I read the Bible in its entirety, every word, and that book alone, the one that should have made me a believer did the exact opposite.
My religion is comes first, is the right one, therfore you now have to belive or die..
You are correct in the assumption that there would still be problems, however there would be one less problem, also alot of racism is based on religion, and nationalism can also be traced back to religion (History,Culture etc)
Removing religion would make the world a more peacefull place. However Humans are warriors by nature.
@MrPathanStyle How does having my own view of religion hinder my ability to debate? A debate is just that, pitting two different views against each other. You (I'm asuming now that you're religious) also have your oppinion of religion and therefore whats to counter my aruments, thats how a debate starts. However your response is not an invitation to a debate. It would seem like you're the one who does not know how to debate.
@MrPathanStyle Oh, I understand what you are "TRYING" to say, you are however failing at doing so. Trying is not the same as doing. Why don't you try to explain your argument in a more understandable way? Insted of " Atheists don't know how to debate." and "U sound like a lawyer."
Hmmm? And CAPS LOCK does not make for a good argument.
@JackSparrowDepp Religion tends to be the only one that casts differences of opinion in terms of eternal paradise or ultimate suffering. So the them vs. us mentality is amplified in religious thinking. It isnt the cause of every conflict, but when religious thinking enters into conflicts they tend to be extremely dangerous and sometimes fatal.
Funny how you didn't mention religion as a positively influencing factor but just put it as one of many factors contributing the the problems of humanity. Are you sure that this is what you wanted to say? I highly doubt it, having seen some of your other videos, but I slightly enjoy the fact that you don't think a lot of what you publish online through very well, making it easy to criticize.
Your whole objection is easily defeated by classifying Nationalism and Blindfold Patriotism as religions. Which they are, in the religious studies community we call them civil religions. It isn't religion itself, but the religious mindset and mentality. Thinking you have all the answers and the divine right to certain things because you've found "The one TRUE God" All you've done is pushed back the argument a couple steps..but it is still a fatal blow to your way of thinking.
@CrapnellGates LOL Whether you classify or not nobody considers nationalism and patriotism a religion. Religions have no race and nationality. A strawman argument I would say.
@JackSparrowDepp Nobody considers them religions? I just told you they do in the religious studies community. There have been plenty of articles published about "Civil Religion" a lot of patriotism and nationalism includes integrating transcendental themes and a religious sense of meaning/community. It isn't a strawman, the consequences of dogmatic thinking are demonstrably true, as I said It isn't the religion itself, but that dogmatic objective mindset.Them for us, believers vs. non-believers
I think that we would have more scientific progression without religion. But yeah, religion also does stuff towards wars, but humans just suck. The word doesn't need religion, but it doesn't really solve all the world's problems.
if you are saying we should be religious despite the evidence or lack of eveidence that there is a god you will just have a system based on assumptions or lies
If there was no religion in our world, we would have a serious problem because we will not have an EXCUSE to show how evil, weak, greedy and faulty we humans generally are.
The Crusades and Hitler's mind are best examples...in the name of Christianity, The Crusades were responsible for the deaths of hundreds, including children in 1212 when infact, Christ and religion had nothing to do with it. Same case with the present.
@Tsayelle historians estimate islam has caused over 270 MILLION deaths
your dirty prick mohammed was a MURDERER of innocents & even instructed penalty for those with intellect who can read the errors in koran/dont accept the myths/brainwashing/being lied to in islam is MURDER
@snoopyd80 religion is good and bad it brain washes people but keeps some of then away from crime and thts good i guess keep the stupid ones in religion and the ones that have a common scenes well keep doing what you do...
@thejewishagnostic No matter if the system is fascist, communist or religious: If a regime succeeded to destroy all effective power control mechanisms, such as independent press and judiciary, with a potential opposition intimidated, imprisoned or murdered, then the most heinous crimes are possible. Usually with arrogant fanatics on top, surrounded by bootlickers and careerists who constantly hail them as supreme geniuses - Hitler, Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot are the most infamous examples.
On the truth unveiled your colleague stated that nationalism was the new religion. Maybe its all these abstract identities that cannot even be consistently defined by their respective holders. i.e do all Muslims agree on what it is to be a Muslim, likewise do all Christians, likewise do all Americans etc. I Am Man most likely you are too, therefore what more is needed to be equal under the creator.
Religion is not the root to all evil, but has it done anything good? Religion is against progress and reason. Instead of basing your life and choices on rationality, facts and what you KNOW is true, you base it on emotion, what others tell you is true and what you WISH to believe. Does not sound very good to me
You're right, it's really oversimplifying things to think that religion is the cause of problems in the world. Who would actually think like that? That's a dumb point of view. I'm surprised you would even bother addressing it with a video.
Actually, division is the root for most conflicts. Division is caused by many factors. Mostly nationalism, political ideologies, extremist religious dogmas too. It doesnt really hold on just one specific thing. Its total clusterfuck of dividing us all. If only humans would just realize the magnificent relation between one another, brother-like feeling and see, that we are not really different from each other. United we stand, divided we fall... screw those things dividing us...
it would've been good if you made your video more longer brother, you could of expanded on many other aspect of non religious ideology eg communism, fascism, world war 1and2 was due to nationalism and fascism which killed over 65million people. i know religion had a part to play in war and oppression but not at this scale and at the end the day it is corrupt humans whether religious or not make war and mischief on land that's all i have to say
Who you addressing? I doubt even John Lennon or Dawkins would claim religion is the *only* problem. So you're creating a strawman. Personally I don't seek to get rid of religion. I'm only against those who want to impose their religion on others and implement laws that would have me beheaded as an ex-Muslim. Perhaps you should address this issue rather than knocking down your own strawmen.
People need to learn to solve their problems on tables instead of battlefields. It is only then they can live in peace.
Wars happen when they are the only option to achieve ones's goal. The desire of defending or achieving own thoughts, believes or needs is the source of all problems in this world.
I believe if all people followed prophet Mohammad PBUH advice:
" Love for your brother what you love for yourself "
@triafffii "I believe if all people followed prophet Mohammad PBUH advice: "...Love for your brother what you love for yourself "...there wouldn't be any problems in this world"
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That advice existed long before Muhammad did. And it doesn't mesh smoothly with using slaves for sex and ignoring their preexisting marriage vows (Quran 23:5-6, 4:24), or that violent, greedy religious thugs are better than those who help the needy (9:18-20)
interesting, where did that advice existed before prophet Mohammad ?
It will be interesting to examine the legacy of whoever can give such an advice.
Lets say that I believe that everything God deemed right is right ? On what basis someone else can consider me wrong ?
Last time I checked, atheists do not have a standard moral code and therefore can only judge things with their desires which might be unpleasant for others ..
@triafffii "where did that advice existed before prophet Mohammad ?..."
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The Golden Rule? Some Quran verses (Quran 2:178 & 191, Quran 5:45) actually take humanity BACKWARD, going against Jesus (Matthew 5:38-48, 7:12, 22:36-40), Plato, etc., all the way back to Hammurabi's (a polytheist no less) code of law, 2000+ yrs before the Quran...
@OptimisticCynic715 (cont. triafffii) "Lets say that I believe that everything God deemed right is right ? On what basis someone else can consider me wrong ?,,,atheists do not have a standard moral code and therefore can only judge things with their desires which might be unpleasant for others"
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On what basis do you consider your beliefs to be deemed right by God, and not just someone pretending to speak for God?...Respect others? End suffering? Does that work as a moral code?
Matthew 5:39-48 are NOT interpreted by Christians literally since Jesus ordered his followers to hate (Luke 14:26) and buy swords (Luke 22:36) and kill his enemies (Luke 19:27) and follow the OT law (Matthew 5:17-18,Matthew 23:1-3) which of course includes the eye for eye rulings mentioned in the Quranic verses you gave.
Obviously, Jesus himself think that " don't resist evil " is foolish and irrational.
And BTW what is your thoughts about verses before Mathew 5:39 ?
On the contrary, it is the modern atheism which had taken humanity to the level of wild animals.
The non-religious leaders caused the death of over 180 million human beings in the last century which is far greater than the 2.5 millions death toll of the biblical era.
Clearly those people didn't restrict themselves by any sort of moral code since morals are as good as the non-existing god as they might had believed.
God is associated with religions if there is no religions then there is no God. Among all religions I believe Islam is most balanced, rational and believable and that the Islamic concept of God is the most clear and acceptable.
Atheism is a mere rejection of God. Its core ideology could be anything. For that reason I find it ludicrous that atheists attack religious laws and moralities while they themselves have no definitive morals or laws we can compare to ours.
As long mankind exist suffering and bigotry will exist. Laws regardless of their sources aim or should aim to limit and minimize suffering and create an ideal and happy society.
It is only in paradise laws are no longer needed because God then will make humans like angels capable of good only.
Luke 14:26- Love God above all else...L 22:36- to fulfill a prophecy, see 22:37, 22:49-51, and Isaiah 53:12...L 19:27- see 19:11, it's a Judgement Day parable. Can you find a New Testament verse exhorting Jesus followers to violence against non-believers? In Matt. 5 Jesus is upgrading the Law to full potential. M 5:38 mentions the Law, 5:39 "BUT I say" upgrades it.
God is associated with religions by the humans making up the religions, and they make God a sadistic bully. How is infinite punishment for finite crimes just or rational?
Atheism is not believing in God, generally due to lack of compelling evidence. Not sure why you're looking for a moral laws in a statement of disbelief.
"only in paradise laws are no longer needed...capable of good only" In Islamic Heaven they do what's forbidden here.
Imagine the world without religions, without gods ..
hmmmm
Since I well be dust under dust tomorrow, I will do my best to indulge myself and enjoy every moment of my life.
But if my indulgence can not be achieved without inflicting harm on others, if my enjoyment is fame and power, if my pleasure is creating an ideal society that is God's heaven on earth ..
Should I sacrifice myself or sacrifice the others ?
Well, I guess I will end up another Hitler or Stalin.
Our religious muslim community has spent 1.6 million to help western socitey we have big crime rate here. The project center is called mycenter in melboyrbe under issna. Religion will help these youth and lead them to moral guidence because there west socity failed them. Project is on its way.
Response to untitled, u need religion to rid of greed because atheiest like your self believes in survival of fitest and that charity is only optional unlike religious scripture which charity is must, and if every person followed no more poor people. Hence u rid of religion means u cant rid the second problem
@pamuk7 Oh, I totally agree. Only the religious are really capable of charity. That makes them so much better because charity because of fear of God is much better than people giving because they just want to help.
Hey!..I'm a human being, same as you. I care as much about my fellow humans, as anyone else.
It's Nature that enforces the principle of survival of the fittest. Scientists and engineers, (usually atheist), armed with knowledge of nature, are the ones who help overcome these vicissitudes. By inventing technology and medicine that helps the less fortunate.
Only a theist like yourself, would seek to de-humanise a non-believer.
@maxcommunist You're not fooling anyone. Communism doesn't make things any better, in fact it makes them much worse with its police state and general lack of liberty. A regulated market is a better approach. Every communist country in the world is far worse off than those with a market economy.
Capitalism is far from perfect but it's not "the big enemy", human nature is, and you're going to have to live with it.
Yeah, because Communism is really about police states and lacking of liberty. Really, you don't know anything about Communism.
A Communist society is a stateless and classless society. The USSR, North Korea was fascistoid state-capitalists riding under the disguise of communism. The last Communism in Soviet died at Kronstadt in 1921.
There is no such thing as human nature. You do know that before private property were invented, during the hunter and gatherer society...
@maxcommunist And this is why we say that communism is not applicable in practice.
I would even argue the core idea is wrong. Why would I lift a single finger to work if I knew I was getting an equal share of everything? With millions of people around, my lack of contribution wouldn't even be noticed.
And again, you prove that you don't know what Communism means.
Communism doesn't mean an "equal share". Communism means that the people will be in charge of the economy instead of a not-democratically elected elite deciding over it.
...People lived in societies which is called Primitive Communism, there were no classes and no private ownership. People worked together according to their abilities and in turn received what they needed. "From each according to their abilities to each according to their needs".
"Freedom only for the members of the government, only for the members of the Party - though they are quite numerous - is no freedom at all. Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters"-Rosa Luxemburg
@maxcommunist The realities of that time have changed considerably. Some form of commune might work for small communities where people bond more strongly and where scarce resources and harsh living conditions don't permit laziness.
@Atheistprimate "Religion is not the problem, humans are the problem."
Well, religions are human-made, so your statement could be true... but good things are also human-made. The real problem is not directly the human, but rather his incapacity to self-critic his own bad deeds so he can't improve himself. For religions, this incapacity is related to the fear of punishment and ignorance. Once you get rid of that corrupting mind trap, human is no more the problem. It becomes the religions.
@farhan00 Wars are based upon politics of land and resources, as well as rights & treaties maligned. Religious wars, mandated by God, are few. But God mandates that people keep to guarding their rights, treaties, land and resources. Now if one didn't, they'd become slaves. "So give up you slaves, we want you as property" says the person arguing against religion. "Oh I guess so, I don't want to be violent. Here you go, have my submission", says the fool believing the shyster.
Most national and racist issues that we currently have are fueled by religion, the rest is just minor problems. Any big racist problems that have ever been were based on the idea that god made the other race better. And sure religion isn't the root of all evil, but it sure as hell has slowed down humanity long enough and would break a lot of dividing factors among mankind.
fucking brilliant point man, i think no matter what the case whether we have religion or not, or even if the whole planet was one colour, humans would still find things to fight about, its just in our nature.
God is the excuse used against homosexuals, people of another religions, abortion, scientific research and many other things. As a atheist I have no doubt that if religion was removed, humans would find another excuse for their actions. Using god as a scapegoat has worked for thousands of years and people will continue to use it.
What I find funny is the religious who say without god, there would be no morality. Like people walk around wanting to murder, but don't cause god is watching.
I accept that spirituality is part of humanity; and it can be a healthy thing, but as long as there are humans that fear their own death there will be con artists that want to take advantage of that fear. Thus religion will continue.
@CrimsonRunnerToJesus yes you have path you must follow. and its narrow. wonder why it dont say only a few choose it. Do they really not know the way I guess. this is too bad.
But that was not the case for those who were influenced by Darwin's theory. So given such a case, can you judge that Darwin founded an evil theory? Of course no. .
@MardasMan Atheists think religion itself is propaganda. Anything that isnt peer reviewed by atheist scientists is propaganda right? Its obvious that there are atheists on a rampage. What is the point of havig entire video productions against religion? The funny thing is that you dont recognize your own propaganda. How about you leave religious people alone :p
@MardasMan Well i guess because you've never heard it then it must be false. Wonder where that logic came from lol. My guess is that even if you heard it you wouldn't care. It only bothers antitheists when someone supports religion. And Im sorry but your claim about viewing 'nearly everything' on the net by atheists is ridiculous. I have friends and family who have said it. Let me guess you've been to nearly all my family celebrations?
Yeah, good point. Like saying that since we've also got ebola, hiv and influenza, we should not try to deal with cancer, because if we manage to solve the problem with cancer, there would still be ebola, hiv and influenza among other things to deal with. Thus it's not helpful to deal with cancer as a problem, because it isn't any better to only have 3 problems instead of 4 :D Eeh...
Religion is not the root of all problems, but to assert that we would only be left with a short list of negatives is myopic. I live a life without religion and that is just not how life works. We would still have the negatives you mentioned and more. We would also have everything else good in our lives. Let's list a few: Selflessness, charity, humanity, community, love and much more. Is there a perfect combination of religion and secularism, who knows?
Right, without religion most problems of the world will still exist. But who claimed something different? You are attacking a strawman. Just because Religion is a totally unnecessary problem, doesn't mean, it's the only one we have.
C'mon, next time attack something atheists actually say instead of another strawman.
I am an atheist, and a very vocal one, who has viewed nearly everything atheists have said on the internet, and i have NEVER heard, that religion would be the cause of all problems. Never. In my view this is only a strawman believers have erected to burn. For example: A documentary of Dawkins was named "the root of all evil", Dawkins protested against that, he could only manage to get a ?, while the german SPIEGEL strawmanned an "atheist crusade" with this exact claim.
Many religions have a different conception of "faith". Also, pure evidentialism is self-defeating. Altruism is merely empathy manifested.
The same things you condemned were used and promoted to create societies against oppression and evil. Its apparent to me you know little about your own humanity.
Atheists are just as bad as everyone else, whether you want to admit that or not. And don't attempt to bring in the failed statistics to "prove otherwise".
@DawahFilms you fool Norway is the most peaceful country in the world... it is also the most atheistic country in the world also... im not saying atheist are perfect but there the closest to it
@shan00r actually no evolution is just the change which occurred to a specie over a space of time. human beings evolved by also caring and sharing to ensure the survival of our specie and dominance of other species. having feelings of peace, compassion and sensitivity makes sense in evolution or else the specie chances of dying of is in greater risk and sometimes lead towards extinction. evolution is not all the EVIL as you portray it
@randallfe Bro..Infact Evolution is not an Atheist Monopoly. Before anyone..It was Islam that Taught bout evolution. I am Not Potraying evolution as Evil...
The question is who Gave you the Idea Of GOOD and EVIL...If Not God.
having feelings of peace, compassion & sensitivity makes sense in evolution only with in the family limits & Not as a Whole species.
If it wasn't for God, then WHO taught man to be CIVILIZED, GOOD & not follow the motto of TIT for tat just like all other animals do.
Nah. Doing away with religion would not solve all the world's problems. If someone says that it would, then they aren't looking at the bigger picture. Not all conflicts and issues have to do with religion, but many do.
You obviously don't know history well then. All his personal recordings claim he was against Christianity from the onset. He merely promoted Christianity to the Christian public.
But that doesn't matter anyways. You need to give sufficient justification beyond LABELS that make someone kill someone else over another.
Merely claiming that "well he wasn't labeled an atheist so therefore theism is evil" is a non-sequitur.
Yeah, you're right; without religion, the world would still definitely be a fucked up place. Religion does often help exacerbate problems but most of them would still be there without it.
National-socialism (Nazism), communism, Zionism, colonialism and capitalism have nothing to do with religion. These are dysfunctional ideologies that emanate from a continent that never produced a world religion: Europe. It is also telling that the outspoken defender of atheism, Christopher Hitches, is a defender of the supreme war crime of Iraq's invasion. The claim that most wars are started by religion is a white man's fiction.
@thejewishagnostic and Marxism is not based on religion, most Marxists are ANTI-RELIGION, so thank you very much. the biggest killers of our modern era have been stalin and mao, and their ideologies had nothing to do with religion, but had all to do with socialism, and materialistic world philosophies.
Both Mao and Stalin were communists, who followed the principles of communism and "Dialect Materialism" founded by Karl Marx, whom was influenced by Darwinism.
@WmnRights Darwinism is a scientific theory, not an ideology. One can no more base an ideology or code of behavior on Darwinism than one can base one on, say, the theory of gravitation.
The mis-named Social Darwinism movement was actually denounced by Darwin.
I never said Darwinism is an ideology, which if you look at it somehow, it might come out as an ideology, since it divides people to Superior and Inferior.
@WmnRights "Superior" and "inferior" are human values, not scientific values. The closest Darwinism can come to these values are "better able to survive the current environment" and "worse able to survive the current environment."
theist stand back and take all the credit for what science dose. Science discovers something theis say god did it so do what we say. did you mean to imply that scientist are close minded , scientist are pragmatic and should be so. Theist can say god did it as much and as long as they want I'm not close minded if I dont believe them it's not my falt they are to lazy to provide evidence. I'm one of those people who just look for any explanations I just say I dont know but lets try to find out
@DawahFilms ""Religion" is a contributor because human beings naturally fall into conflict. Thats it."
When Hamas cite alleged promises from Allah that the Jews will be destroyed by the mulims, this has nothing to do with "human beings naturally falling into conflict". In such cases, their delusions can be both the direct cause of conflict and a force preventing peace. Religion is a tool used to control people, and it has no legitimate reason for its existence.
@DawahFilms It has this in common with various other forms of totalitarian ideologies, and all of them have demonstrable conflict creating and enhancing properties. For this reason they should all be abandoned. Anyway, the basic argument here seems to be that because Nationalism(or whatever) is bad, there's no need to fix other problems. Two wrongs make a right. It really is pathetic to hear people go down that route.
@DawahFilms Of course, the problems related to religion are not limited to being divisive and sectarian. They also undermine the very foundation of science and reason. I believe you made a video demonstrating that not long ago. A long rant culminating in "I can make up any random shit I want, because kids do it, and that makes it rational".
Strawmanning my argument doesn't equate to an objection.
This quote is apt for you: "A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
It adds an element of insanity to wars when people run around making claims "as if their God were some kind of omniscient real estate broker parsing out parcels of land to his chosen flock."
Yes religions created too much hatred in this world and cost too much innocent blood . Religion is one factor creating racism and division of the human race .
@thejewishagnostic stalin wasn't because of religion, mao wasn't because of religion, many arab socialist dictators weren't because of religion, but because of highly nationalistic fascist ideology of the all empowering state.
@thejewishagnostic nope, nationalism is not because of religion, what the heck are you on? for example pan arabism of the 50-70's, their nationalism wasn't to do with religion, like the baath party etc, these guys are hardcore pure nationalists not based on religion. even today you have many european nationalists who are atheists.
@thejewishagnostic Hitler was no religious. He turned evolution into an ideology, combined it with nationalism and forced it on the world. All this was possible due to secularism.
@ProteinShaykh Hitler was very religious, and he did not believe in evolution. (He believed in eugenics, which is something entirely different.) You've been getting your info about Hitler from people who have made ASSumptions based on preconceived notions.
World is full of stupid ideas... When ever people think reality is like they want it to be, those ideas will have very bad consequences. This goes with many ideals. Capitalism, bolshevism, nationalism... Religions are not excluded... Dogmatic systems do great harm for humans.
I don't think religion is the root of all problems, but rather, the lack of education. is.Religious principles are fine. But when you combine a multitude of factors including poverty, desperation and no education, then of course we're going to see religion misrepresented on the whole.The fact is, religious people give more money to charity than atheists. However I can't find the journal but a simple Google search should find it. I too am motivated by religion to DO GOOD and oppose what is wrong.
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@SamiZaatari Oh no I must sacrifice all the fun and joys of life so that I don't get poked with a stick and set on fire for ever by a red man with horns. I REALLY don't want to eat pork because the magic man who-looks-like-every-single-person-ever-created will throw me into fire and have me tortured. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH FREE WILL that gays are a curse and should be killed off. I am so happy to be a part of this mindless cult of people afraid of ancient beliefs designed to scare criminals.
SMILLSgotSKILLS 1 month ago
@SamiZaatari
It would be foolish to assert that religion is the root of all problems. But it is the cause of many problems and so should be argued against whenever possible and opposed when nessecary.
We seem to agree that the claim is 'absolutely absurd' and 'complete rubbish'. But you go on to defend religion on the basis that it's the least of several evils. Does that strike you as a good argument? Besides, even if religion were good for the world that would not nessecarily prove it true.
DieudonneSeal 1 month ago
@DieudonneSeal Well said :)
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The reason? It should be painfully obvious. The god, as your book describes him, and your savior, as his disciples retell, supported the oppression of women, genocide, slavery, human sacrifice, and incest. Jesus, as is retold in the Bible, lays out a definition of how to treat your slaves! If you think I'm lying, then you haven't read the Bible. I urge all religious people to read their own book. I especially urge Sami to read it.
ZombieVampirez 1 month ago
@ZombieVampirez You are just a bitter faggot. So bitter you leave nasty comments to Samir because you disagree with him. I hope you die of AIDS faggot.
MusicIzMySavior 1 month ago
The reason? It should be painfully obvious. The god, as your book describes him, and your savior, as his disciples retell, supported the oppression of women, genocide, slavery, human sacrifice, and incest. Jesus, as is retold in the Bible, lays out a definition of how to treat your slaves! If you think I'm lying, then you haven't read the Bible. I urge all religious people to read their own book. I especially urge Sami to read it.
ZombieVampirez 1 month ago
Just to point out, I went to church with my family for several years. Upon discovering my sexuality, I was told by a psychologist to read the Bible, and that it would make me "See god and be good" and such. It did the exact opposite. It reaffirmed my sexuality while also making me an Atheist. I read the Bible in its entirety, every word, and that book alone, the one that should have made me a believer did the exact opposite.
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Ahhh no religion. What a great step towards progress that would be.
BigLundi 2 months ago
"My nation comes before yours"
You could say the same for religious conflicts:
My religion is comes first, is the right one, therfore you now have to belive or die..
You are correct in the assumption that there would still be problems, however there would be one less problem, also alot of racism is based on religion, and nationalism can also be traced back to religion (History,Culture etc)
Removing religion would make the world a more peacefull place. However Humans are warriors by nature.
Umbrokill99 2 months ago
@Umbrokill99
U sound like a lawyer and you have your own view of religion. One of the major reasons why Atheists dont know how to debate.
MrPathanStyle 2 months ago
@MrPathanStyle How does having my own view of religion hinder my ability to debate? A debate is just that, pitting two different views against each other. You (I'm asuming now that you're religious) also have your oppinion of religion and therefore whats to counter my aruments, thats how a debate starts. However your response is not an invitation to a debate. It would seem like you're the one who does not know how to debate.
Umbrokill99 2 months ago
@Umbrokill99
It seems that you again understants the religious people YOU WANT. Maybe you should try to understand WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAY. Thats what I mean!
MrPathanStyle 2 months ago
@MrPathanStyle Oh, I understand what you are "TRYING" to say, you are however failing at doing so. Trying is not the same as doing. Why don't you try to explain your argument in a more understandable way? Insted of " Atheists don't know how to debate." and "U sound like a lawyer."
Hmmm? And CAPS LOCK does not make for a good argument.
Umbrokill99 2 months ago
@Umbrokill99
Its not about how I express my statements. Its you who has a tunnel vision with it comes to religious issues. Now you understand?
MrPathanStyle 1 month ago
@JackSparrowDepp Religion tends to be the only one that casts differences of opinion in terms of eternal paradise or ultimate suffering. So the them vs. us mentality is amplified in religious thinking. It isnt the cause of every conflict, but when religious thinking enters into conflicts they tend to be extremely dangerous and sometimes fatal.
CrapnellGates 2 months ago
Funny how you didn't mention religion as a positively influencing factor but just put it as one of many factors contributing the the problems of humanity. Are you sure that this is what you wanted to say? I highly doubt it, having seen some of your other videos, but I slightly enjoy the fact that you don't think a lot of what you publish online through very well, making it easy to criticize.
alexanderalexandrou 2 months ago
"You need to do your homework!" LOL Epic.
JackSparrowDepp 2 months ago
Your whole objection is easily defeated by classifying Nationalism and Blindfold Patriotism as religions. Which they are, in the religious studies community we call them civil religions. It isn't religion itself, but the religious mindset and mentality. Thinking you have all the answers and the divine right to certain things because you've found "The one TRUE God" All you've done is pushed back the argument a couple steps..but it is still a fatal blow to your way of thinking.
CrapnellGates 2 months ago
@CrapnellGates LOL Whether you classify or not nobody considers nationalism and patriotism a religion. Religions have no race and nationality. A strawman argument I would say.
JackSparrowDepp 2 months ago
@JackSparrowDepp Nobody considers them religions? I just told you they do in the religious studies community. There have been plenty of articles published about "Civil Religion" a lot of patriotism and nationalism includes integrating transcendental themes and a religious sense of meaning/community. It isn't a strawman, the consequences of dogmatic thinking are demonstrably true, as I said It isn't the religion itself, but that dogmatic objective mindset.Them for us, believers vs. non-believers
CrapnellGates 2 months ago
@CrapnellGates You can find "them" vs. "us" in everything. Makes no sense.
JackSparrowDepp 2 months ago
I think that we would have more scientific progression without religion. But yeah, religion also does stuff towards wars, but humans just suck. The word doesn't need religion, but it doesn't really solve all the world's problems.
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if you are saying we should be religious despite the evidence or lack of eveidence that there is a god you will just have a system based on assumptions or lies
that cant be a good thing
Mark777X 2 months ago
if everyone was a good religious person then this world would be a better place to live in....regardless of any religion
vitovito123 2 months ago
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@vitovito123 "if everyone was a good religious person then this world would be a better place to live in."
And yet, the best places in the world to live in are secular - not religious.
TheHigherVoltage 2 months ago
Very few Atheists claim that All problems will be solved without religion, but many will.
1990PatMorrison 2 months ago
If there was no religion in our world, we would have a serious problem because we will not have an EXCUSE to show how evil, weak, greedy and faulty we humans generally are.
The Crusades and Hitler's mind are best examples...in the name of Christianity, The Crusades were responsible for the deaths of hundreds, including children in 1212 when infact, Christ and religion had nothing to do with it. Same case with the present.
Tsayelle 2 months ago
@Tsayelle historians estimate islam has caused over 270 MILLION deaths
your dirty prick mohammed was a MURDERER of innocents & even instructed penalty for those with intellect who can read the errors in koran/dont accept the myths/brainwashing/being lied to in islam is MURDER
so which is worse...islam or christianity in 2011
proudfemale 2 months ago
9/11 was caused by religious extremists
Jay21L 2 months ago
Nationalism and greed may be the root of the world's wars, but religion is most often the "moral" rationale behind them.
snoopyd80 3 months ago 10
@snoopyd80 religion is good and bad it brain washes people but keeps some of then away from crime and thts good i guess keep the stupid ones in religion and the ones that have a common scenes well keep doing what you do...
WATAFACKenlacalle 1 month ago
@thejewishagnostic No matter if the system is fascist, communist or religious: If a regime succeeded to destroy all effective power control mechanisms, such as independent press and judiciary, with a potential opposition intimidated, imprisoned or murdered, then the most heinous crimes are possible. Usually with arrogant fanatics on top, surrounded by bootlickers and careerists who constantly hail them as supreme geniuses - Hitler, Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot are the most infamous examples.
eltamin1966 3 months ago
On the truth unveiled your colleague stated that nationalism was the new religion. Maybe its all these abstract identities that cannot even be consistently defined by their respective holders. i.e do all Muslims agree on what it is to be a Muslim, likewise do all Christians, likewise do all Americans etc. I Am Man most likely you are too, therefore what more is needed to be equal under the creator.
4sovereignT 3 months ago
Religion has the power to directly segregate community's, reason and science does not.
Carl Sagan once said that its only from space that humanity's fragility is shown.
"'The Pale Blue Dot" is a fantastic piece of brave publication at a time when anything against the statuesque was seen as dangerous.
As always have a wonderful day : )
Grgorawr 3 months ago
Only an idiot would think that there is a root to all evil. Like a devil or something...
heroclix0rz 3 months ago
oh so solving part of the problem is not good enough for you?
well sooooooorryyy
lightside4 3 months ago
Religion is not the root to all evil, but has it done anything good? Religion is against progress and reason. Instead of basing your life and choices on rationality, facts and what you KNOW is true, you base it on emotion, what others tell you is true and what you WISH to believe. Does not sound very good to me
FutureSpaceGuy 3 months ago 4
IMAGINE NO WORLD (2012). LMFAO!!!!
RATED4EVER 3 months ago
I agree with what you had said, the world wouldn't be a better place.
MuslimPerspective786 3 months ago
You're right, it's really oversimplifying things to think that religion is the cause of problems in the world. Who would actually think like that? That's a dumb point of view. I'm surprised you would even bother addressing it with a video.
CMO999 3 months ago
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8marr 3 months ago
Actually, division is the root for most conflicts. Division is caused by many factors. Mostly nationalism, political ideologies, extremist religious dogmas too. It doesnt really hold on just one specific thing. Its total clusterfuck of dividing us all. If only humans would just realize the magnificent relation between one another, brother-like feeling and see, that we are not really different from each other. United we stand, divided we fall... screw those things dividing us...
Drago19930713 3 months ago
it would've been good if you made your video more longer brother, you could of expanded on many other aspect of non religious ideology eg communism, fascism, world war 1and2 was due to nationalism and fascism which killed over 65million people. i know religion had a part to play in war and oppression but not at this scale and at the end the day it is corrupt humans whether religious or not make war and mischief on land that's all i have to say
ajmolaliful 3 months ago
Sami, I would like to invite you be a guest on TheJinnAndTonicShow (BlogTV) via Skype to discuss your reasons for believing in Islam.
Would you like to participate?
TheJinnAndTonicShow 3 months ago
Who you addressing? I doubt even John Lennon or Dawkins would claim religion is the *only* problem. So you're creating a strawman. Personally I don't seek to get rid of religion. I'm only against those who want to impose their religion on others and implement laws that would have me beheaded as an ex-Muslim. Perhaps you should address this issue rather than knocking down your own strawmen.
CEMBadmins 3 months ago
People need to learn to solve their problems on tables instead of battlefields. It is only then they can live in peace.
Wars happen when they are the only option to achieve ones's goal. The desire of defending or achieving own thoughts, believes or needs is the source of all problems in this world.
I believe if all people followed prophet Mohammad PBUH advice:
" Love for your brother what you love for yourself "
there wouldn't be any problems in this world..
triafffii 3 months ago
@triafffii "I believe if all people followed prophet Mohammad PBUH advice: "...Love for your brother what you love for yourself "...there wouldn't be any problems in this world"
RE
That advice existed long before Muhammad did. And it doesn't mesh smoothly with using slaves for sex and ignoring their preexisting marriage vows (Quran 23:5-6, 4:24), or that violent, greedy religious thugs are better than those who help the needy (9:18-20)
OptimisticCynic715 3 months ago
@OptimisticCynic715
interesting, where did that advice existed before prophet Mohammad ?
It will be interesting to examine the legacy of whoever can give such an advice.
Lets say that I believe that everything God deemed right is right ? On what basis someone else can consider me wrong ?
Last time I checked, atheists do not have a standard moral code and therefore can only judge things with their desires which might be unpleasant for others ..
triafffii 3 months ago
@triafffii "where did that advice existed before prophet Mohammad ?..."
RE 1 of 2
The Golden Rule? Some Quran verses (Quran 2:178 & 191, Quran 5:45) actually take humanity BACKWARD, going against Jesus (Matthew 5:38-48, 7:12, 22:36-40), Plato, etc., all the way back to Hammurabi's (a polytheist no less) code of law, 2000+ yrs before the Quran...
(cont.)
OptimisticCynic715 3 months ago
@OptimisticCynic715 (cont. triafffii) "Lets say that I believe that everything God deemed right is right ? On what basis someone else can consider me wrong ?,,,atheists do not have a standard moral code and therefore can only judge things with their desires which might be unpleasant for others"
RE 2 of 2
On what basis do you consider your beliefs to be deemed right by God, and not just someone pretending to speak for God?...Respect others? End suffering? Does that work as a moral code?
OptimisticCynic715 3 months ago
@OptimisticCynic715
Matthew 5:39-48 are NOT interpreted by Christians literally since Jesus ordered his followers to hate (Luke 14:26) and buy swords (Luke 22:36) and kill his enemies (Luke 19:27) and follow the OT law (Matthew 5:17-18,Matthew 23:1-3) which of course includes the eye for eye rulings mentioned in the Quranic verses you gave.
Obviously, Jesus himself think that " don't resist evil " is foolish and irrational.
And BTW what is your thoughts about verses before Mathew 5:39 ?
triafffii 3 months ago
@OptimisticCynic715
On the contrary, it is the modern atheism which had taken humanity to the level of wild animals.
The non-religious leaders caused the death of over 180 million human beings in the last century which is far greater than the 2.5 millions death toll of the biblical era.
Clearly those people didn't restrict themselves by any sort of moral code since morals are as good as the non-existing god as they might had believed.
triafffii 3 months ago
@OptimisticCynic715
God is associated with religions if there is no religions then there is no God. Among all religions I believe Islam is most balanced, rational and believable and that the Islamic concept of God is the most clear and acceptable.
Atheism is a mere rejection of God. Its core ideology could be anything. For that reason I find it ludicrous that atheists attack religious laws and moralities while they themselves have no definitive morals or laws we can compare to ours.
triafffii 3 months ago
@OptimisticCynic715
As long mankind exist suffering and bigotry will exist. Laws regardless of their sources aim or should aim to limit and minimize suffering and create an ideal and happy society.
It is only in paradise laws are no longer needed because God then will make humans like angels capable of good only.
triafffii 3 months ago
@triafffii 1 of 2
Luke 14:26- Love God above all else...L 22:36- to fulfill a prophecy, see 22:37, 22:49-51, and Isaiah 53:12...L 19:27- see 19:11, it's a Judgement Day parable. Can you find a New Testament verse exhorting Jesus followers to violence against non-believers? In Matt. 5 Jesus is upgrading the Law to full potential. M 5:38 mentions the Law, 5:39 "BUT I say" upgrades it.
(cont.)
OptimisticCynic715 3 months ago
@OptimisticCynic715 cont. 2 of 2
God is associated with religions by the humans making up the religions, and they make God a sadistic bully. How is infinite punishment for finite crimes just or rational?
Atheism is not believing in God, generally due to lack of compelling evidence. Not sure why you're looking for a moral laws in a statement of disbelief.
"only in paradise laws are no longer needed...capable of good only" In Islamic Heaven they do what's forbidden here.
OptimisticCynic715 3 months ago
Imagine the world without religions, without gods ..
hmmmm
Since I well be dust under dust tomorrow, I will do my best to indulge myself and enjoy every moment of my life.
But if my indulgence can not be achieved without inflicting harm on others, if my enjoyment is fame and power, if my pleasure is creating an ideal society that is God's heaven on earth ..
Should I sacrifice myself or sacrifice the others ?
Well, I guess I will end up another Hitler or Stalin.
triafffii 3 months ago
Argument reduces to >> There are others evils besides religion...*slow claps for a half hour*
IEatGods666 3 months ago
Melbourne sorry
pamuk7 3 months ago
Our religious muslim community has spent 1.6 million to help western socitey we have big crime rate here. The project center is called mycenter in melboyrbe under issna. Religion will help these youth and lead them to moral guidence because there west socity failed them. Project is on its way.
pamuk7 3 months ago
Response to untitled, u need religion to rid of greed because atheiest like your self believes in survival of fitest and that charity is only optional unlike religious scripture which charity is must, and if every person followed no more poor people. Hence u rid of religion means u cant rid the second problem
pamuk7 3 months ago
@pamuk7 Oh, I totally agree. Only the religious are really capable of charity. That makes them so much better because charity because of fear of God is much better than people giving because they just want to help.
IEatGods666 3 months ago
@pamuk7 > [ "...atheiest like your self ..." ]
Hey!..I'm a human being, same as you. I care as much about my fellow humans, as anyone else.
It's Nature that enforces the principle of survival of the fittest. Scientists and engineers, (usually atheist), armed with knowledge of nature, are the ones who help overcome these vicissitudes. By inventing technology and medicine that helps the less fortunate.
Only a theist like yourself, would seek to de-humanise a non-believer.
6Untitled9 3 months ago
Capitalism is the big enemy. Religious fanaticism, racism and nationalism is just effects of the class society...
maxcommunist 3 months ago
@maxcommunist You're not fooling anyone. Communism doesn't make things any better, in fact it makes them much worse with its police state and general lack of liberty. A regulated market is a better approach. Every communist country in the world is far worse off than those with a market economy.
Capitalism is far from perfect but it's not "the big enemy", human nature is, and you're going to have to live with it.
DogmasDemise 3 months ago
@DogmasDemise
Yeah, because Communism is really about police states and lacking of liberty. Really, you don't know anything about Communism.
A Communist society is a stateless and classless society. The USSR, North Korea was fascistoid state-capitalists riding under the disguise of communism. The last Communism in Soviet died at Kronstadt in 1921.
There is no such thing as human nature. You do know that before private property were invented, during the hunter and gatherer society...
maxcommunist 3 months ago
@maxcommunist And this is why we say that communism is not applicable in practice.
I would even argue the core idea is wrong. Why would I lift a single finger to work if I knew I was getting an equal share of everything? With millions of people around, my lack of contribution wouldn't even be noticed.
DogmasDemise 3 months ago
@DogmasDemise
And again, you prove that you don't know what Communism means.
Communism doesn't mean an "equal share". Communism means that the people will be in charge of the economy instead of a not-democratically elected elite deciding over it.
maxcommunist 3 months ago
@DogmasDemise
...People lived in societies which is called Primitive Communism, there were no classes and no private ownership. People worked together according to their abilities and in turn received what they needed. "From each according to their abilities to each according to their needs".
"Freedom only for the members of the government, only for the members of the Party - though they are quite numerous - is no freedom at all. Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters"-Rosa Luxemburg
maxcommunist 3 months ago
@maxcommunist The realities of that time have changed considerably. Some form of commune might work for small communities where people bond more strongly and where scarce resources and harsh living conditions don't permit laziness.
Modern civilization is much different.
DogmasDemise 3 months ago
One problem at a time. .....A world without religion, is a world with one less problem.
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MultiAhka 3 months ago
Religion is not the problem, humans are the problem. We just suck that bad.
Atheistprimate 3 months ago 34
@Atheistprimate "Religion is not the problem, humans are the problem."
Well, religions are human-made, so your statement could be true... but good things are also human-made. The real problem is not directly the human, but rather his incapacity to self-critic his own bad deeds so he can't improve himself. For religions, this incapacity is related to the fear of punishment and ignorance. Once you get rid of that corrupting mind trap, human is no more the problem. It becomes the religions.
KaonNeutre 2 months ago
But at least we would have eliminated ONE potential cause of trouble and strife. ;-)
But you're right.... "problem solved" it certainly would not be.
rozeboosje 3 months ago
Almost all wars, including the Crusades, were caused by Economic factors, NOT "religion". Religion was merely a unifying factor.
That's why Christians kill Christians and Muslims kill Muslims. The Crusades and WWI are perfect examples.
farhan00 3 months ago 15
@farhan00 Wars are based upon politics of land and resources, as well as rights & treaties maligned. Religious wars, mandated by God, are few. But God mandates that people keep to guarding their rights, treaties, land and resources. Now if one didn't, they'd become slaves. "So give up you slaves, we want you as property" says the person arguing against religion. "Oh I guess so, I don't want to be violent. Here you go, have my submission", says the fool believing the shyster.
faro0485 3 months ago
Most national and racist issues that we currently have are fueled by religion, the rest is just minor problems. Any big racist problems that have ever been were based on the idea that god made the other race better. And sure religion isn't the root of all evil, but it sure as hell has slowed down humanity long enough and would break a lot of dividing factors among mankind.
draydrone 3 months ago
I'm a Christian.But, you are the most interesting and entertaining defender of the Islamic faith on Youtube.
searchlight18 3 months ago
fucking brilliant point man, i think no matter what the case whether we have religion or not, or even if the whole planet was one colour, humans would still find things to fight about, its just in our nature.
binakVersailles 3 months ago
Sure we would still have problems in the world. But there would be one less problem to worry about.
ourworld287 3 months ago
God is the excuse used against homosexuals, people of another religions, abortion, scientific research and many other things. As a atheist I have no doubt that if religion was removed, humans would find another excuse for their actions. Using god as a scapegoat has worked for thousands of years and people will continue to use it.
What I find funny is the religious who say without god, there would be no morality. Like people walk around wanting to murder, but don't cause god is watching.
FriskyMeerkat 3 months ago
Who needs to do their homework? John Lennon?
JamesEzSecretChannel 3 months ago
I accept that spirituality is part of humanity; and it can be a healthy thing, but as long as there are humans that fear their own death there will be con artists that want to take advantage of that fear. Thus religion will continue.
MsMrNoface 3 months ago
thx
AbuOmarSanDiegi 3 months ago
Sin is the problem...and man's inability to overcome it.
CrimsonRunnerToJesus 3 months ago
@CrimsonRunnerToJesus Jesus over came it. He won when he died on the cross. those who have faith that he saved them won.
shartne 3 months ago
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CrimsonRunnerToJesus 3 months ago
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@shartne Yes. But narrow is the road that leads to Life and few there are that find it. Broad is the road to destruction...
CrimsonRunnerToJesus 3 months ago
@CrimsonRunnerToJesus yes you have path you must follow. and its narrow. wonder why it dont say only a few choose it. Do they really not know the way I guess. this is too bad.
shartne 3 months ago
@shartne The reason most people don't choose it is because they don't believe that it's true. (Do you follow the Muslim path? Why not?)
RickySTT 3 months ago
@RickySTT
But that was not the case for those who were influenced by Darwin's theory. So given such a case, can you judge that Darwin founded an evil theory? Of course no. .
WmnRights 3 months ago
@MardasMan Atheists think religion itself is propaganda. Anything that isnt peer reviewed by atheist scientists is propaganda right? Its obvious that there are atheists on a rampage. What is the point of havig entire video productions against religion? The funny thing is that you dont recognize your own propaganda. How about you leave religious people alone :p
Kooshkff 3 months ago
@MardasMan Well i guess because you've never heard it then it must be false. Wonder where that logic came from lol. My guess is that even if you heard it you wouldn't care. It only bothers antitheists when someone supports religion. And Im sorry but your claim about viewing 'nearly everything' on the net by atheists is ridiculous. I have friends and family who have said it. Let me guess you've been to nearly all my family celebrations?
Kooshkff 3 months ago
Yeah, good point. Like saying that since we've also got ebola, hiv and influenza, we should not try to deal with cancer, because if we manage to solve the problem with cancer, there would still be ebola, hiv and influenza among other things to deal with. Thus it's not helpful to deal with cancer as a problem, because it isn't any better to only have 3 problems instead of 4 :D Eeh...
unlyckystrike 3 months ago
Religion is not the root of all problems, but to assert that we would only be left with a short list of negatives is myopic. I live a life without religion and that is just not how life works. We would still have the negatives you mentioned and more. We would also have everything else good in our lives. Let's list a few: Selflessness, charity, humanity, community, love and much more. Is there a perfect combination of religion and secularism, who knows?
matthewtaylorbrown 3 months ago
Right, without religion most problems of the world will still exist. But who claimed something different? You are attacking a strawman. Just because Religion is a totally unnecessary problem, doesn't mean, it's the only one we have.
C'mon, next time attack something atheists actually say instead of another strawman.
MardasMan 3 months ago
@MardasMan
I don't think it's a straw man at all. I've heard and read it plenty of times "religion is the cause of all the problems"
Kooshkff 3 months ago
@Kooshkff
I am an atheist, and a very vocal one, who has viewed nearly everything atheists have said on the internet, and i have NEVER heard, that religion would be the cause of all problems. Never. In my view this is only a strawman believers have erected to burn. For example: A documentary of Dawkins was named "the root of all evil", Dawkins protested against that, he could only manage to get a ?, while the german SPIEGEL strawmanned an "atheist crusade" with this exact claim.
Just Propaganda.
MardasMan 3 months ago
Cool video. Almost as cool as the new haircut ;)
CasperTheMeanieGhost 3 months ago
My brain started to melt as soon as I scrolled the comments!
bigchicken24 3 months ago
@thejewishagnostic
I can't see how altruism is necessarily bad. The idea of treating another unselfishly helping others or selflessly showing concern.
ByTheShortAndCurlies 3 months ago
@thejewishagnostic
You have yet to justify any of your comments.
DawahFilms 3 months ago
Nope it would be a world without the problems that supernatural superstition brings.
ByTheShortAndCurlies 3 months ago
@thejewishagnostic
Many religions have a different conception of "faith". Also, pure evidentialism is self-defeating. Altruism is merely empathy manifested.
The same things you condemned were used and promoted to create societies against oppression and evil. Its apparent to me you know little about your own humanity.
DawahFilms 3 months ago
@DawahFilms
Faith is the belief in something without any supporting empirical evidence.
ByTheShortAndCurlies 3 months ago
@ByTheShortAndCurlies
Then your belief that things require empirical evidence is also faith?
Unless you want to appeal to circular logic, which is fail.
DawahFilms 3 months ago
@DawahFilms we are not.. but we are the closest to perfect... and guess what... we are atheist
randallfe 3 months ago
@randallfe
Nonsense.
Atheists are just as bad as everyone else, whether you want to admit that or not. And don't attempt to bring in the failed statistics to "prove otherwise".
DawahFilms 3 months ago
@DawahFilms you fool Norway is the most peaceful country in the world... it is also the most atheistic country in the world also... im not saying atheist are perfect but there the closest to it
randallfe 3 months ago
@randallfe Who taught those Norwegians the lessons of "Peace"?
By the theory of Evolution we R desinged to Live by the Law of the Jungle....That Is ..."survival of the fittest".
If "survival of the fittest is the religion of Norway by the Definition of " The most atheistic country in the world".
Then they Must Have surely Borrowed the teaching of the OTHERWISE 4m some "OTHER-istic" country in the world.
Think bout it...How will the atheist movement get its momemtum without Impersonation?
shan00r 3 months ago
@shan00r actually no evolution is just the change which occurred to a specie over a space of time. human beings evolved by also caring and sharing to ensure the survival of our specie and dominance of other species. having feelings of peace, compassion and sensitivity makes sense in evolution or else the specie chances of dying of is in greater risk and sometimes lead towards extinction. evolution is not all the EVIL as you portray it
randallfe 3 months ago
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@randallfe Bro..Infact Evolution is not an Atheist Monopoly. Before anyone..It was Islam that Taught bout evolution. I am Not Potraying evolution as Evil...
The question is who Gave you the Idea Of GOOD and EVIL...If Not God.
having feelings of peace, compassion & sensitivity makes sense in evolution only with in the family limits & Not as a Whole species.
If it wasn't for God, then WHO taught man to be CIVILIZED, GOOD & not follow the motto of TIT for tat just like all other animals do.
shan00r 3 months ago
@randallfe LOL,
pantherlake2002 3 months ago
"We have one problem, lets get rid of it!"
"Nah, there would be many more left. Don't worry about it."
-.- nice way of thinking sir -.-
DraskyVanderhoff 3 months ago
I like your rant agianst nationalism
RefutingZionismblog 3 months ago
@RefutingZionismblog do i get a cookie for that?
SamiZaatari 3 months ago 15
@SamiZaatari of course
RefutingZionismblog 3 months ago
i'll even add to favs
RefutingZionismblog 3 months ago
@SamiZaatari I hate this argument about no religion. As always right again. Keep making great videos like this.
bigchicken24 3 months ago
@SamiZaatari What happened to the lorenzo lamas look dawg?
earthwormjah 3 months ago
Nah. Doing away with religion would not solve all the world's problems. If someone says that it would, then they aren't looking at the bigger picture. Not all conflicts and issues have to do with religion, but many do.
TempleOfInanna2 3 months ago
@thejewishagnostic
You obviously don't know history well then. All his personal recordings claim he was against Christianity from the onset. He merely promoted Christianity to the Christian public.
But that doesn't matter anyways. You need to give sufficient justification beyond LABELS that make someone kill someone else over another.
Merely claiming that "well he wasn't labeled an atheist so therefore theism is evil" is a non-sequitur.
DawahFilms 3 months ago
@thejewishagnostic
Buddhists can be atheists.
GallusSapien 3 months ago
Yeah, you're right; without religion, the world would still definitely be a fucked up place. Religion does often help exacerbate problems but most of them would still be there without it.
Gunderson002 3 months ago
National-socialism (Nazism), communism, Zionism, colonialism and capitalism have nothing to do with religion. These are dysfunctional ideologies that emanate from a continent that never produced a world religion: Europe. It is also telling that the outspoken defender of atheism, Christopher Hitches, is a defender of the supreme war crime of Iraq's invasion. The claim that most wars are started by religion is a white man's fiction.
Invesigator 3 months ago
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Invesigator 3 months ago
personally, i follow no religion, but i think it is a shame that it is used as a scapegoat for ignorant people to just blame.
StoneColdNipple 3 months ago
@thejewishagnostic and Marxism is not based on religion, most Marxists are ANTI-RELIGION, so thank you very much. the biggest killers of our modern era have been stalin and mao, and their ideologies had nothing to do with religion, but had all to do with socialism, and materialistic world philosophies.
SamiZaatari 3 months ago
@SamiZaatari
Both Mao and Stalin were communists, who followed the principles of communism and "Dialect Materialism" founded by Karl Marx, whom was influenced by Darwinism.
WmnRights 3 months ago
@WmnRights Darwinism is a scientific theory, not an ideology. One can no more base an ideology or code of behavior on Darwinism than one can base one on, say, the theory of gravitation.
The mis-named Social Darwinism movement was actually denounced by Darwin.
RickySTT 3 months ago
@RickySTT
I never said Darwinism is an ideology, which if you look at it somehow, it might come out as an ideology, since it divides people to Superior and Inferior.
WmnRights 3 months ago
@WmnRights "Superior" and "inferior" are human values, not scientific values. The closest Darwinism can come to these values are "better able to survive the current environment" and "worse able to survive the current environment."
RickySTT 3 months ago
theist stand back and take all the credit for what science dose. Science discovers something theis say god did it so do what we say. did you mean to imply that scientist are close minded , scientist are pragmatic and should be so. Theist can say god did it as much and as long as they want I'm not close minded if I dont believe them it's not my falt they are to lazy to provide evidence. I'm one of those people who just look for any explanations I just say I dont know but lets try to find out
Chill197 3 months ago
a world without religion would be like Norway... the best!!!!
randallfe 3 months ago
@randallfe
Anders Breivik!!! W00t!
Not to say that all Norwegians are like that, but you guys arent a perfect utopia either.
DawahFilms 3 months ago
@thejewishagnostic
"Religion" is a contributor because human beings naturally fall into conflict. Thats it.
DawahFilms 3 months ago 6
@DawahFilms ""Religion" is a contributor because human beings naturally fall into conflict. Thats it."
When Hamas cite alleged promises from Allah that the Jews will be destroyed by the mulims, this has nothing to do with "human beings naturally falling into conflict". In such cases, their delusions can be both the direct cause of conflict and a force preventing peace. Religion is a tool used to control people, and it has no legitimate reason for its existence.
Gnomefro 3 months ago
@Gnomefro
Its interesting how you mention "Hamas" and I completely disagree with their methods.
Other than you trying to conflate my indentify with Hamas, you have yet to justify your statements.
DawahFilms 3 months ago
@DawahFilms It has this in common with various other forms of totalitarian ideologies, and all of them have demonstrable conflict creating and enhancing properties. For this reason they should all be abandoned. Anyway, the basic argument here seems to be that because Nationalism(or whatever) is bad, there's no need to fix other problems. Two wrongs make a right. It really is pathetic to hear people go down that route.
Gnomefro 3 months ago
@DawahFilms Of course, the problems related to religion are not limited to being divisive and sectarian. They also undermine the very foundation of science and reason. I believe you made a video demonstrating that not long ago. A long rant culminating in "I can make up any random shit I want, because kids do it, and that makes it rational".
Gnomefro 3 months ago
@Gnomefro
Strawmanning my argument doesn't equate to an objection.
This quote is apt for you: "A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
~ Bertrand Russel
DawahFilms 3 months ago
It adds an element of insanity to wars when people run around making claims "as if their God were some kind of omniscient real estate broker parsing out parcels of land to his chosen flock."
(SH)
iviewthetube 3 months ago
@iviewthetube
Terror doesn't need a religion to justify, it can use anything. An example about religious extremism cannot generalize religion as "Evil".
WmnRights 3 months ago
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@frid9999 You think Islam is evil? Well fuck you. Stupid ignorant fucks like you make this world a fucked up place to live in.
lunar0wn4 3 months ago
Yes religions created too much hatred in this world and cost too much innocent blood . Religion is one factor creating racism and division of the human race .
strongfoot2009 3 months ago
@thejewishagnostic most european imperialism and colonialism of the 19th-20th century was not religiously motivated neither.
SamiZaatari 3 months ago 2
@thejewishagnostic arab nationalists are not 1 example, other examples include stalin, mao, the biggest killers of modern history.
SamiZaatari 3 months ago
@thejewishagnostic stalin wasn't because of religion, mao wasn't because of religion, many arab socialist dictators weren't because of religion, but because of highly nationalistic fascist ideology of the all empowering state.
SamiZaatari 3 months ago
@thejewishagnostic nope, nationalism is not because of religion, what the heck are you on? for example pan arabism of the 50-70's, their nationalism wasn't to do with religion, like the baath party etc, these guys are hardcore pure nationalists not based on religion. even today you have many european nationalists who are atheists.
SamiZaatari 3 months ago
@thejewishagnostic Hitler was no religious. He turned evolution into an ideology, combined it with nationalism and forced it on the world. All this was possible due to secularism.
ProteinShaykh 3 months ago
@ProteinShaykh Hitler was very religious, and he did not believe in evolution. (He believed in eugenics, which is something entirely different.) You've been getting your info about Hitler from people who have made ASSumptions based on preconceived notions.
RickySTT 3 months ago
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ATHEISTS HAVE NO MANNERS
UKBOXlNGFAN 3 months ago
World is full of stupid ideas... When ever people think reality is like they want it to be, those ideas will have very bad consequences. This goes with many ideals. Capitalism, bolshevism, nationalism... Religions are not excluded... Dogmatic systems do great harm for humans.
Drago19930713 3 months ago
@Drago19930713
Absolutely. That is why I'm against religious extremism.
WmnRights 3 months ago
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@FaMingZhe
Not all white people are evil. Also, not all Jews are evil for that matter.
WmnRights 3 months ago
Great video bro. Nothing can stop this wonderful religion from flourishing.
WmnRights 3 months ago
Godlessness is the cause of everything bad in the world.
JihadOfTheSoul 3 months ago
@JihadOfTheSoul ...Yes, thats why crusades were for... To bring god to everyone.. Smooth, dude, very smooth.
Drago19930713 3 months ago
I LOVE UR TOPICS AND VIDEOS !
TasQattan 3 months ago
Let me tell you who makes most of the conflicts and cause trouble in this world. It is the fucking USA government!!
BeAwareToAvoid 3 months ago
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in islam there is no racism
riwani2010 3 months ago
In a very tiny way I agree with you Sami. Religion is not