@thirdshift47 "Correct if i'm wrong,but isn't 'The Tea Party' a form of collectivism?" It would be if tea parties pooled their money through some mechanism - but they don't. They freely go to rallys to protest collectivism.
Support the third party and get the career polititions; Democrats and Republicans both must go to re-establish the freedoms the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
"Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate, now what's going to happen to us with both a House and a Senate?" Will Rodgers
"You don't pay taxes - they take taxes." Chris Rock
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
Oh I get it now. Duh. Sorry if I confused you with a commie propaganda vid maker. Thanks good vid i'll check out his web site. Cut me some slack it was New Years last night.
Spoken like a true patriot! The only thing I would have added is that our time is very short. Oblahma is hell bent in transforming us into communism. Look how fast he wants trhings done. Look at all the secrets kept from us. Read the fuckin' handwriting on the wall!!
Did you guys see that our congress just voted themselves another pay raise? It is time to stop this crap once and for all. As Wyatt Earp said in Costner's movie... "it all ends now." 2010 and the spenders go home!
@ProudConservative2 The only way we the taxpayers are going to stop this government abuse is by refusing to pay our federal taxes. So I suggest we form a movement
whereby millions of us stop paying taxes until congress, and our senators listen to us. And that is the only way we can stop this mess.
If we all "hang together" our non-representing representatives will finally KNOW who is in charge of this government. We can bring this corrupt government to a halt if enough people will support it. I'll bet millions have been thinking the same thing.
I recall reading somewhere that one way to ensure forcing the Government to adjust course would be for all working taxpayers to claim as many exemptions as possible with their W-2's. That would effectively turn off the spigot to D.C. and force them to wait until each April to get the majority of our money. So many (including myself I admit) claim zero and wait for a big refund in April that we enable them to spend & spend with no consequence.
What the HELL is wrong with the brain-damaged liberals that don't understand this? These principles are the ONLY reason that America has enjoyed the highest standard of living the world has every seen (for all people, not just a few). Even our super poor have housing if they want it, electricity, tv', ac, refrigerators, stoves that the rest of the world view as for the rich!
@ProudConservative2: The so-called "conservatives" have let us down too. Corporate Welfare is just as bad, if not worse than social justice through wealth redistribution.
Yep... they sure have! We can and we must stop all the welfare, handouts (corporate too) and let the free market work for once. We will care for our less-fortunate through charity, church, family, friends, neighbors, community but NOT the govt. period! It is not supposed to "care" for us!
@ProudConservative2 What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Thank you for explaining clearly individual rights vs. collectivism. Nothing will change until man completely rejects the immoral philosophy prevalent today. . that he should sacrifice (compromise in any way) his own life by legal force for someone elses life. The moral philosophy that should take its place is Capitalism where each man is free to create, produce and keep the fruits of his own labor without intereference from others, including govt. Brilliant speech Jonathan!
Take your money, start a business, put a couple dozen Americans to work for a decent wage, deal with the regulations, pay the double FICA, pay the SUTA/FUTA/Medicare/WC, buy health insurance, pay the business insurance, pay the interest on the line of credit, and then try to make a profit.
When that is done, pay the profit sharing, so that everyone's salary in the company is equal to yours, and then give a portion of your share so that a bunch of welfare recipients can profit too.
"You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else...
When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
Almost all economists agree that it is the role of the government to ensure the proper distribution of wealth through taxes in order for capitalism to sustain itself.
I'm talking about income rates. All income brackets have generally increased but the upper class incomes have risen much faster and higher in the last decade. Economists have warned of the dangers of concentrating wealth in a small percentage of the population. Alan Greenspan called it a "very disturbing trend." It's well known that the upper 5% pays more than half the income tax. That just goes to show how wide the income gap is. Bill Gates even agrees. Look up his latest interviews on YT.
Obama's salary is under half a million a year. (471,000 to be exact.) Granted he gets the best of everything for free but that's not permenant. If after eight long, difficult, high stress, and history making years he walks away with just under 4 million (3,768,000 to be exact) I wouldn't say he's in it for the money.
The problem is investment and risk. When you save enough to invest and are willing to take a risk, then you have earned any potential profits. Everybody else is just along for the ride...and usually jumps ship at the first sign of trouble.
Their average salary is $40/hr, +6% vacation fund, plus all of the other union bennies and of course the usual govt. crap. In sum, it will cost you $78/hr per person.
40/hr, huh? I guess that depends on what kind of business I'm running and how much I'm willing to pay myself. I would certainly feel a bit remiss if I had to lay people off while paying myself something ridiculous like $30,000 a day. (see Aubrey McClendon, Chesapeake Energy Corp.)
Well, regular small businesses like mine don't have profits of $30,000/day...maybe 30K a month when times are great.
Nonetheless, my workers (electricians) make damned good money and work without "true" responsibility; e.g. if someone gets killed because of their faulty work/wiring, I (me, myself and the company alone) get sued and I am financially responsible. - That's a big risk.
And one other thing...crazy CEO salaries, while gross, are truly a rarity in the big picture. What I and other small business owners are worried about is how WE are going to be punished. The fat cats have lobbyists in cahoots with Washington...on the other side of the coin, the major employment force of America, small business, does not have that leverage; yet we will pay the lion's share of the price.
If I owned a flower shop I doubt I'd be paying $78/hr. Nor would I be in it to become a millonare. If I ran GM or Chrysler and I was laying people off by the thousands and asking the government for money while my executives were making millions a year, something would be wrong. In other countries CEOs would be laughed out of the room if they asked for the kinds of salaries they get here.
The speaker in this video and I are also against corporate welfare...you get no arguments from me...let 'em fail. If people want to buy cars, the industry will survive...albeit there will be some tough times in the mean time.
France has one of the most productive work forces in the world while having one of the highest qualities of life. Having a high paid CEO doesn't make a company better.
It wouldn't be as important for CEOs to make millions and millions a year because they'd still have access to the same free healthcare, free college, and other benefits that everybody else has. Over here only the well-off have the ability to pay for college, healthcare deductables, vacations, etc. so it's important to have higher salaries which leads to unnecessary competition (and typically more stress) thus leading to a lower quality of life (ie happiness) even for those with high salaries.
You could still try to make millions and millions if you wanted to but it wouldn't be so important. You could still be happy. (see "Your Money or Your Life: 9 Steps to Transforming Your Relationship with Money" by Viki Robin and Joe Dominguez.)
Those who are the most innovative would still be the most likely to get rich which is how it should be. But like Walt Disney said, "We don't make movies to make money. We make money to make more movies." The greatest innovators do it for passion first and profit second.
Not everyone can achieve living their passion...I'd love to be a rock star, but my musical abilities are only a bit above average for a musician.
So instead, I do electrical contracting and try to be as successful as possible. Then me family and I can pursue our "other" goals and ambitions at will...and we find happiness doing it.
You can't tell people how to live their lives. Poor, opressed people have made fortunes too, the possibilities are there.
It is a collectively lazy and complacent society that has let themselves be trampled on...very few can cry opression from their fellow neighbor...most can cry opression from their government.
Yeah, that was me...I was a little fired up that day...especially after being called a racist by some piece of shit driving in his car as I crossed Dearborn Street on my way to the event.
@h8liver because Congress was bribed and told we would all burn in collapse if the banks were not bailed out. Financial industries have stolen America's money and used it to go on vacations. Maybe you should look there for those monies
Okay. Aside from energy there are investments in education, wastewater, drinking water and flood prevention which could prevent greater losses if these things fail. Investments in public transportation, green buildings, smart grid, and lots more that add up to savings in the future. If we wait for private industry to address these things we may never see them happen. Not to mention the fact that 90% of these things will be contracted to private industry anyhow.
Private industry has no sense of forethought. It only does what's profitable at the moment. We as a people can use our heads and decide what kinds of technology to invest in that will create a better society in the long run.
But If your goal is to put as many people out of work as possible then big corporations are the way to go. They spend each and every day working on ways to cut labor costs.
And as far as waste in the budget goes, when all public records are put on the web (one of Obama's ideas) it will be harder and harder for that kind of shit to take place. It's the 21st century for Pete's sake.
If centralized government scares you, just look at Canada, England, France, The Netherlands, etc. Their people recieve WAY more benefits and entitlements than us and they seem to be doing just fine. (that is, until we disrupted the entire world's economy.)
"We" didn't disrupt the world economy Mr. Collectivist. The root cause was the Fed keeping the rates so low, and giving implicit gauratees of bailouts to sudo-government entities like Freddy and Fanny.
Sucessful private industry thinks years in advance. Some think short term and they usually die off.
More importantly, the USSR failed because of Collectivism. No one owned what they earned, so no one tried earning.
"We" didn't disrupt the world economy...the root cause was the Fed...
Like I said, "We", The U.S., the Fed, the banks, whatever.
Sucessful private industry thinks years in advance...
Some industries need incentives from the gov't in order to do something intelligent. Notice the race on Wall Street to invest in green technologies. That's because we are finally demanding it.
..the USSR failed because...no one owned what they earned...no one tried earning.
Actually, green technology is worse for humans. World temperature never left natural variation, and now it is actually decreasing again.
But that being said, based on your response to this, you conceeded to my point 90%.
"Prove it."
Most of the skilled labor is leaving venezuala right now because of their government. The USSR invented almost nothing compared to the US. The standard of living in the USSR was horid. Read "We The Living"
I don't care if the economy re-surges tomorrow...all if this money is going to be nothing but taxes for our children to pay...why should our greed be payed for by others?
The idea is that we are taking our tax money and investing it into things like energy independence so we will come out stronger than before. These investments will pay for themselves in the long run. But, yes, as always, we (and unfortunately our children) will have to spend money to make money. And don't forget the deficit under Bush went 5 times higher than it was before he "took" office. It's gonna take a while to undo that. At least we're getting something for our money this time.
Freddie MAC, Fannie Mae, AIG, GM, Chrysler...there's no potential energy independence there...the corps got there money and saved their own asses.
Let the free market determine when energy independence is needed and how it will be done.
There has been a lot of govt. investment in the electric car for over a decade and it is not working. They subsidize agriculture for methanol and now there is less to eat.
The stimulus package included the largest tax cut for the middle class in history and returned the tax rate for those making over a quarter of a million dollars back to the level they were before Bush took office.
What makes this man a capitalist? Does he call for an end to the Fed? Does he advocate sound, honest money? Is he anti-war? If he is not these things then he is not a true capitalist, he is a crony capitalist.....a corporatist! I will investigate this man more closely.
II was born in Chicago and raised there. It does my heart good to see my people standing up for what is right.(AMERICANISM). NO MORE BAILOUTS!!!! sink or swim!BEEATCH!!
People joining together freely in a cause that serves their interests is not collectivism. So third shift, you are wrong.
cmunce 1 year ago
Correct if i'm wrong,but isn't 'The Tea Party' a form of collectivism?
thirdshift47 1 year ago
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@thirdshift47 "Correct if i'm wrong,but isn't 'The Tea Party' a form of collectivism?" It would be if tea parties pooled their money through some mechanism - but they don't. They freely go to rallys to protest collectivism.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
I absolutely LOVE this speech.
LibertarianElitist 2 years ago
Elect Jonathan Hoenig to the senate!
AtlasObjectivist 2 years ago
Holy Crap! that was an amazing speech!
sdfkjllshadflhadfshl 2 years ago
Fire all politicians and elect only statesmen. If you don't know the difference, look it up.
PatriotsRepublic 2 years ago
Support the third party and get the career polititions; Democrats and Republicans both must go to re-establish the freedoms the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
"Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate, now what's going to happen to us with both a House and a Senate?" Will Rodgers
"You don't pay taxes - they take taxes." Chris Rock
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
kyowakokunobenkai 2 years ago 2
ABOLISH THE FED.
FIRE ALL DEMOCRATS.
3martijns 2 years ago 3
Fire all of the Democrats, surely. Because when the Democrats are in power, man exploits man. And when Republicans are in power, just the opposite.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
Just to clarify, there may be just a few dems in House worth saving , but ONLY if they NEVER are one of PELOUSY'S PUPPETS.
3martijns 2 years ago
@JHancock1776 That's dumb.
upabittoolate 9 months ago
Oh I get it now. Duh. Sorry if I confused you with a commie propaganda vid maker. Thanks good vid i'll check out his web site. Cut me some slack it was New Years last night.
cozyfoxstudio 2 years ago
Spoken like a true patriot! The only thing I would have added is that our time is very short. Oblahma is hell bent in transforming us into communism. Look how fast he wants trhings done. Look at all the secrets kept from us. Read the fuckin' handwriting on the wall!!
huntingun1 2 years ago
Social Justice is when you get to keep the money you worked hard to earn.
Everyone should write that on all of their paper money.
BrainDeadRepublican 2 years ago
Did you guys see that our congress just voted themselves another pay raise? It is time to stop this crap once and for all. As Wyatt Earp said in Costner's movie... "it all ends now." 2010 and the spenders go home!
ProudConservative2 2 years ago 2
@ProudConservative2 The only way we the taxpayers are going to stop this government abuse is by refusing to pay our federal taxes. So I suggest we form a movement
whereby millions of us stop paying taxes until congress, and our senators listen to us. And that is the only way we can stop this mess.
JewishRepublican 2 years ago
If we all "hang together" our non-representing representatives will finally KNOW who is in charge of this government. We can bring this corrupt government to a halt if enough people will support it. I'll bet millions have been thinking the same thing.
ProudConservative2 2 years ago
I recall reading somewhere that one way to ensure forcing the Government to adjust course would be for all working taxpayers to claim as many exemptions as possible with their W-2's. That would effectively turn off the spigot to D.C. and force them to wait until each April to get the majority of our money. So many (including myself I admit) claim zero and wait for a big refund in April that we enable them to spend & spend with no consequence.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
Excellent speech!
1Tarz 2 years ago
I think as taxpayers we should be entitled to a big refund.
Let the banks write us a check for $10,000.00 each.
JewishRepublican 2 years ago
and another $1,000.00 from each member of congress that voted for any expansion of the federal government.
Mauhadeeb28 2 years ago
What the HELL is wrong with the brain-damaged liberals that don't understand this? These principles are the ONLY reason that America has enjoyed the highest standard of living the world has every seen (for all people, not just a few). Even our super poor have housing if they want it, electricity, tv', ac, refrigerators, stoves that the rest of the world view as for the rich!
ProudConservative2 2 years ago 3
GREAT STUFF!!! Thanks for forwarding this to me!
Happy New Year!
ICONICFREEDOM 2 years ago
@ProudConservative2: The so-called "conservatives" have let us down too. Corporate Welfare is just as bad, if not worse than social justice through wealth redistribution.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
Yep... they sure have! We can and we must stop all the welfare, handouts (corporate too) and let the free market work for once. We will care for our less-fortunate through charity, church, family, friends, neighbors, community but NOT the govt. period! It is not supposed to "care" for us!
ProudConservative2 2 years ago
@ProudConservative2: Amen my brother!
JHancock1776 2 years ago
I should proof-read my comments. "the world has EVER seen. Sorry for the typo :)
ProudConservative2 2 years ago
@ProudConservative2 Fuck conservatism.
upabittoolate 9 months ago
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@ProudConservative2 What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
RDBeatnik 7 months ago
Jonathan really nails it in this speech. 5*
SoFlaPatriot 2 years ago
Brilliant speech
Not like that 11 year old brainwashed girl in Tennessee
Sam26100 2 years ago
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Raccoon39 2 years ago
wow, he said it publically and Americans were cheering. MAKES MY DAY :)
66chevyo 2 years ago
this man has explained it perfectly. cut out the rhetoric and lets get back to principals and individualism
glycoboy 2 years ago
We should know everything is fucked! You can't even buy an American flag made in America!
Hohenzoellern 2 years ago
Wonderful speech. Glad you attacked collectivism, Ayn Rand's arch-enemy
Sam26100 2 years ago 2
Thank you for explaining clearly individual rights vs. collectivism. Nothing will change until man completely rejects the immoral philosophy prevalent today. . that he should sacrifice (compromise in any way) his own life by legal force for someone elses life. The moral philosophy that should take its place is Capitalism where each man is free to create, produce and keep the fruits of his own labor without intereference from others, including govt. Brilliant speech Jonathan!
breeze9ca 2 years ago
Thanks for the view and comment...
JHancock1776 2 years ago
Damn... All i can say... Wow... I'd like to hear liberals respond to this without attacking bush or reagan.
Stoyakovick47 2 years ago
Thank J-Hankcock and brotherofmikefan, intresting reading, i agree with you both.
bikersrule07 2 years ago
Individualism=how much can I profit?
Collectivism=how much can we profit?
brothermikefan 2 years ago
Individualism = I work hard for me, you get what you deserve.
Collectivism = I work hard for you and me, you get what I deserve.
The point that you, and every collectivist stiff does not get is that what separates a business owner from a simple employee is RISK.
You are so fucking happy to share the profits, but nobody seems to want part in losses, lawsuits, higher tax rates, etc.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
Take your money, start a business, put a couple dozen Americans to work for a decent wage, deal with the regulations, pay the double FICA, pay the SUTA/FUTA/Medicare/WC, buy health insurance, pay the business insurance, pay the interest on the line of credit, and then try to make a profit.
When that is done, pay the profit sharing, so that everyone's salary in the company is equal to yours, and then give a portion of your share so that a bunch of welfare recipients can profit too.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
The collectivist's strategy:
Shoot the businessmen in the foot, and then blame them for not walking straight.
horvay 2 years ago 2
That sounds very honorable. So what's the problem?
brothermikefan 2 years ago
Please clarify what you consider to be honorable.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
"You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else...
JHancock1776 2 years ago
When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
JHancock1776 2 years ago
Almost all economists agree that it is the role of the government to ensure the proper distribution of wealth through taxes in order for capitalism to sustain itself.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
Look up "Income Inequality in the United States" on Wikipedia.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
Yeah, I've seen those useless stats time and again.
How does your income compare to Obama's, is it pretty equal?
How about your rep, or your senators, or your governor?
JHancock1776 2 years ago
I'm talking about income rates. All income brackets have generally increased but the upper class incomes have risen much faster and higher in the last decade. Economists have warned of the dangers of concentrating wealth in a small percentage of the population. Alan Greenspan called it a "very disturbing trend." It's well known that the upper 5% pays more than half the income tax. That just goes to show how wide the income gap is. Bill Gates even agrees. Look up his latest interviews on YT.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
Obama's salary is under half a million a year. (471,000 to be exact.) Granted he gets the best of everything for free but that's not permenant. If after eight long, difficult, high stress, and history making years he walks away with just under 4 million (3,768,000 to be exact) I wouldn't say he's in it for the money.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
Actually his income will be more than double that with cash from other sources.
That is besides the point, but at least you did recognize that hard, high-stress work is worth something more than the average "hard" worker.
Now add in risk, and that's where the spoils are earned.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
Where the heck did you pull that stat from? That is a load of crap, and you know it.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
The problem is investment and risk. When you save enough to invest and are willing to take a risk, then you have earned any potential profits. Everybody else is just along for the ride...and usually jumps ship at the first sign of trouble.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
Since YOU think it is honorable...I have a thousand people in the local hall
that are unemployed and will probably not find work for 6-9 months. How many
can you hire and when do they start? They will love working for you.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
Are these people that used to work for you?
brothermikefan 2 years ago
No, but does it matter?
Their average salary is $40/hr, +6% vacation fund, plus all of the other union bennies and of course the usual govt. crap. In sum, it will cost you $78/hr per person.
How many are you ready to hire?
JHancock1776 2 years ago
40/hr, huh? I guess that depends on what kind of business I'm running and how much I'm willing to pay myself. I would certainly feel a bit remiss if I had to lay people off while paying myself something ridiculous like $30,000 a day. (see Aubrey McClendon, Chesapeake Energy Corp.)
brothermikefan 2 years ago
Well, regular small businesses like mine don't have profits of $30,000/day...maybe 30K a month when times are great.
Nonetheless, my workers (electricians) make damned good money and work without "true" responsibility; e.g. if someone gets killed because of their faulty work/wiring, I (me, myself and the company alone) get sued and I am financially responsible. - That's a big risk.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
And one other thing...crazy CEO salaries, while gross, are truly a rarity in the big picture. What I and other small business owners are worried about is how WE are going to be punished. The fat cats have lobbyists in cahoots with Washington...on the other side of the coin, the major employment force of America, small business, does not have that leverage; yet we will pay the lion's share of the price.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
If I owned a flower shop I doubt I'd be paying $78/hr. Nor would I be in it to become a millonare. If I ran GM or Chrysler and I was laying people off by the thousands and asking the government for money while my executives were making millions a year, something would be wrong. In other countries CEOs would be laughed out of the room if they asked for the kinds of salaries they get here.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
The speaker in this video and I are also against corporate welfare...you get no arguments from me...let 'em fail. If people want to buy cars, the industry will survive...albeit there will be some tough times in the mean time.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
France has one of the most productive work forces in the world while having one of the highest qualities of life. Having a high paid CEO doesn't make a company better.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
It wouldn't be as important for CEOs to make millions and millions a year because they'd still have access to the same free healthcare, free college, and other benefits that everybody else has. Over here only the well-off have the ability to pay for college, healthcare deductables, vacations, etc. so it's important to have higher salaries which leads to unnecessary competition (and typically more stress) thus leading to a lower quality of life (ie happiness) even for those with high salaries.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
You could still try to make millions and millions if you wanted to but it wouldn't be so important. You could still be happy. (see "Your Money or Your Life: 9 Steps to Transforming Your Relationship with Money" by Viki Robin and Joe Dominguez.)
brothermikefan 2 years ago
Those who are the most innovative would still be the most likely to get rich which is how it should be. But like Walt Disney said, "We don't make movies to make money. We make money to make more movies." The greatest innovators do it for passion first and profit second.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
Not everyone can achieve living their passion...I'd love to be a rock star, but my musical abilities are only a bit above average for a musician.
So instead, I do electrical contracting and try to be as successful as possible. Then me family and I can pursue our "other" goals and ambitions at will...and we find happiness doing it.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
Again, that's a personal choice.
It is great that YOU find happiness in your daily life, but imposing that lifestyle on others is not your decision.
Feel free to try and make a difference by education and friendship, but tyranny is NOT the way to go.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
You can't tell people how to live their lives. Poor, opressed people have made fortunes too, the possibilities are there.
It is a collectively lazy and complacent society that has let themselves be trampled on...very few can cry opression from their fellow neighbor...most can cry opression from their government.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
I don't blame the CEOs...anybody that can get the cash they get from people foolish enough to pay it can do as they please.
If you don't like a company's policy, don't invest your money, or make sure that you have a voice at the board meetings and votes.
Regular people have the power to do something in a free market...but you can't be uninvolved and passive and then cry when the caca hits the fan.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
We need to tar and feather Obama
CesarManiaX 2 years ago
lol liked that guy in the bkgrd-
DAMN SKIPPY! HAHAHA!
wildflowersandi 2 years ago
Yeah, that was me...I was a little fired up that day...especially after being called a racist by some piece of shit driving in his car as I crossed Dearborn Street on my way to the event.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
I've heard this more than once about the bail out money. That every American can have their home paid for!!!
WTH? Why is our govmt not applying those monies to the American homeowners?
h8liver 2 years ago 4
They don't care about us lil people Papa.
The elite care only about themselves.
But they have bit off a lil more than they can chew with us!!!
They have written a check their @ can't cash!hahahaha!
NO WHITE FLAGS!!!
wildflowersandi 2 years ago 2
@h8liver because Congress was bribed and told we would all burn in collapse if the banks were not bailed out. Financial industries have stolen America's money and used it to go on vacations. Maybe you should look there for those monies
kurtjimenez 1 year ago
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Dou you really want to open this can of worms with me? You may be sorry.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
I like worms. Enlighten us all...Please.
In fact, I guarantee that if you make a video, I will approve of it as a response on this page. Otherwise, write out to your hearts content.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
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Capitalism is like a snake with its head cut off. It only addresses immediate self interests and does nothing to plan for the future.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
Please see this video:
watch?v=yAa6dYBwy7M
JHancock1776 2 years ago
Okay. Aside from energy there are investments in education, wastewater, drinking water and flood prevention which could prevent greater losses if these things fail. Investments in public transportation, green buildings, smart grid, and lots more that add up to savings in the future. If we wait for private industry to address these things we may never see them happen. Not to mention the fact that 90% of these things will be contracted to private industry anyhow.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
BrotherMikeFan:
If you don't wait for private industry, you will spend countless multiples more than necessary to accomplish your goal.
Like the thousand dollar hammers and toilet seats that NASA uses, all government's investments are overpriced compared to the results.
If you think centralized government can do so much, so much better, why did the USSR collapse?
rsimpson69 2 years ago 2
Private industry has no sense of forethought. It only does what's profitable at the moment. We as a people can use our heads and decide what kinds of technology to invest in that will create a better society in the long run.
But If your goal is to put as many people out of work as possible then big corporations are the way to go. They spend each and every day working on ways to cut labor costs.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
And as far as waste in the budget goes, when all public records are put on the web (one of Obama's ideas) it will be harder and harder for that kind of shit to take place. It's the 21st century for Pete's sake.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
And the USSR collapsed because there was a race to see who could outspend each other on weapons during the cold war. We basically bankrupted them.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
If centralized government scares you, just look at Canada, England, France, The Netherlands, etc. Their people recieve WAY more benefits and entitlements than us and they seem to be doing just fine. (that is, until we disrupted the entire world's economy.)
brothermikefan 2 years ago
"We" didn't disrupt the world economy Mr. Collectivist. The root cause was the Fed keeping the rates so low, and giving implicit gauratees of bailouts to sudo-government entities like Freddy and Fanny.
Sucessful private industry thinks years in advance. Some think short term and they usually die off.
More importantly, the USSR failed because of Collectivism. No one owned what they earned, so no one tried earning.
Leave people alone.
horvay 2 years ago 2
Precisely!
JHancock1776 2 years ago
"We" didn't disrupt the world economy...the root cause was the Fed...
Like I said, "We", The U.S., the Fed, the banks, whatever.
Sucessful private industry thinks years in advance...
Some industries need incentives from the gov't in order to do something intelligent. Notice the race on Wall Street to invest in green technologies. That's because we are finally demanding it.
..the USSR failed because...no one owned what they earned...no one tried earning.
Prove it.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
The FED was a big part of the US problem...the rest of the world still had its own problems because of poor fiscal policies.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
"Some industries ... finally demanding it."
Actually, green technology is worse for humans. World temperature never left natural variation, and now it is actually decreasing again.
But that being said, based on your response to this, you conceeded to my point 90%.
"Prove it."
Most of the skilled labor is leaving venezuala right now because of their government. The USSR invented almost nothing compared to the US. The standard of living in the USSR was horid. Read "We The Living"
horvay 2 years ago
excelent
lyinginashes 2 years ago
Oh, I get it. The way to fix the economy is to create a bigger deficit by giving more tax cuts to the rich.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
No, cut the spending and leave more money for the people.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
I don't care if the economy re-surges tomorrow...all if this money is going to be nothing but taxes for our children to pay...why should our greed be payed for by others?
JHancock1776 2 years ago
I just accidentaly erased your comment...I am re-posting...
JHancock1776 2 years ago
The idea is that we are taking our tax money and investing it into things like energy independence so we will come out stronger than before. These investments will pay for themselves in the long run. But, yes, as always, we (and unfortunately our children) will have to spend money to make money. And don't forget the deficit under Bush went 5 times higher than it was before he "took" office. It's gonna take a while to undo that. At least we're getting something for our money this time.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
Freddie MAC, Fannie Mae, AIG, GM, Chrysler...there's no potential energy independence there...the corps got there money and saved their own asses.
Let the free market determine when energy independence is needed and how it will be done.
There has been a lot of govt. investment in the electric car for over a decade and it is not working. They subsidize agriculture for methanol and now there is less to eat.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
We have coal...but it will be taxed to high hell. Nuclear is being fought against tooth and nail. No offshore drilling, no ANWR.
Solar/Wind practibility is many years away, if even possible. Hydro is limited to geography.
JHancock1776 2 years ago
The passing of debt to our children has to stop...we are going to bankrupt them before they have a chance.
And yes, Bush's fiscal policies sucked too!
JHancock1776 2 years ago
The stimulus package included the largest tax cut for the middle class in history and returned the tax rate for those making over a quarter of a million dollars back to the level they were before Bush took office.
brothermikefan 2 years ago
Look at how our blues states have begun to CHANGE! That's the kind of "CHANGE" I'M TALKING BOUT OBAMA!
OBAMA YOU CAN STICK YOURS!
I'm proud of you Chicago!
Nickk361 2 years ago 2
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What you're saying, shanklinmike, is a Capitalist can only think one way? Anti-War isn't synonymous for Capitalistic.
TedVoron 2 years ago 2
Thanks, JHancock1776. This is great!
TedVoron 2 years ago 3
That was a great speech.
LokiScoutSniper 2 years ago 2
It was so wonderful to hear this in Chicago!
eightieserin 2 years ago 3
What makes this man a capitalist? Does he call for an end to the Fed? Does he advocate sound, honest money? Is he anti-war? If he is not these things then he is not a true capitalist, he is a crony capitalist.....a corporatist! I will investigate this man more closely.
shanklinmike 2 years ago
Don't give up your liberty. Keep Fighting!!!
ninanwk69 2 years ago 3
We shall never surrender!
JHancock1776 2 years ago
That's why America is beautiful:)
ninanwk69 2 years ago 3
Five Stars!!
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago 6
12 trillion Stars!
manyleaves 2 years ago 5
II was born in Chicago and raised there. It does my heart good to see my people standing up for what is right.(AMERICANISM). NO MORE BAILOUTS!!!! sink or swim!BEEATCH!!
lancechamplain 2 years ago 4
Thank you very much for posting this! I'm glad someone with some real integrity was allowed to speak his mind.
I really regret not making the drive down from Madison to attend this rally.
jcapcik 2 years ago 3
When is he running for president??? 5 stars!
We were all robbed by the gov the day they passed the stimulus pkg.
ThaSexyPatriot 2 years ago 4
oh I Love this guy.. Freakin brilliant!! THX for another quality vid my friend 5 * for sure
chopngratty 2 years ago 4