education would be free for all. We have the ability to house and feed everyone on the planet. The question of how much would it 'cost' is no longer legitimate, it's do we have enough 'resources' to complete said task. And the answer is yes. Here's a brief interview on Tedx Portugal of how the basic premise an RBEM would work -
Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, etc. are all inherently obsolete and outdated. I am an active member of a group of individuals who are trying to bring to light a new system, called a Resource Based Economic Model. The resources of the planet will be regarded as the common heritage of all people, phasing out the need for currency. The highest possible standard of living for all is possible, if we use technology intelligently and humanely. A better sustainable world, with the highest possible
There's no such thing as FREE education. Somebody pays for it. Is it fair that those who get no benefit from the educational system should bear the total cost of providing it for others?
Education has to be a true free market system in order to be efficient (low cost and high quality).
The "free-market" approach they tried was a failure due to sabotage by massive government subsidies. Educators all got hand-outs and had no incentive to improve quality or lower costs to gain market-share.
@KDanagger oh please ! you and all that nonsense,the gold alone extracted from the natural resources of Chile can pay for the education of the whole America del sur .The problem is people like u and GREED ,fucking Greed !
Education will not provide salvation. Only Jesus Christ the Savior and God of the universe can provide that. Did education die for your sins? Does education provide justification before God for you? Did education rise from the dead to prove that it has conquered death? No! Only Jesus Christ has done that. Only He can provide the answers we need and the purpose in life that we so desire; Not education.
@venicequeen121 wow. please leave your jesus nonsense to yourself. you say god created us all right? so why is this world taterred with horrible ruthless and unmoral people. oh and lets see. if you are not part of gods "team" you get sent to a burning hell. no thanks. that kind of god is a ruthless bastard and i would never want to be on a side that thinks like that. This is 2012.. all organized religion is created, funded, prospered and represented by "man" we aren't sheep anymore.
For everyone who keeps blaming Aljazeera for being "biased", I just have to add that the media in Chile has been biased this whole entire time. Just as here in the USA, the elite and upper class citizens control the media and what we-including Chileans-see are what these rich bastards want us to see and not what we NEED to see. The media probably never showed any footage of this protests and how the police forces did to deal with it. So who's biased now?!?! I'm glad that Aljazeera did a footage
Shame on you Aljazeera, you guys have made many mistakes.
1.- There is FREE primary and secondary education in Chile
2.- For the University, students have to pay. It is expensive, is true, but there are thousands of scholarships for good students, last year there were hundreds of scholarships not used because the students did not apply to them.
3.- The police that you mention as “militarized” is NOT, it is a civil police, there are not militarism on it
4.- Why in every question you have to bring “Pinochet” ? a guy who died many years ago and left the power in 1991 !! . The people that are in the opposition now, the ones calling the students to demonstrate, were 20 years in the power AFTER Pinochet. They did no changes to the system that now they criticize.
5.- Many (almost all ) the private Universities were created during the governments of the opposition, for people related to the opposition as well to people in the actual government.
6.- Without justifying the violation to the human rights ( which has not justification). It is necessary to mention that before Pinochet Chile had the worst economy in South-America, with millions of poor people and even no food. After Pinochet Chile had the best economy in South-America and considered as and stable and growing country. It is a mistake to mix education with the Pinochet regime. It is clear that there is a political interest behind.
@jndpjndp honestly... you read el mercurio or you see too much TV... By the way economics has nothing to do with life quality.. maybe chile is richer than before but andrónico luksic iris fontoba and piñera are chile check about that
@jndpjndp ARE YOU KIDDING? ARE YOU TRYING TO CLEAN AN ASSASIN'S IMAGE? OR JUST TO AVOID THE FACT THAT HIS GOVERNMENT IS THE RESPONSABLE OF CHILE'S ADMINISTRATIONS, ADMINISTRATIONS THAT LEAD US TO THIS GIANT PROBLEM.
@jndpjndp YES BUT THAT 'FREE' EDUCATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WILLING OF REACH FACTS AS A GOOD WORK OR A PROSPEROUS LIFE WITHOUT LACK OF SERVICES
@jndpjndp FOR YOUR SECOND POINT: PEOPLE DON'T REACH THOSE GOOD STANDARS OF MECHANIC INTELLIGENCE 'CAUSE THEY'VE A BAD FORMATION IN THE SCHOOL ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTRY
7:21 Pablo Longueira (ex-congress man from UDI, the most ultra right political un Chile) is Minister of Economy and Tourism. He studied in the University of Chile, when Pinochet destroyed the state in 11th September in 1973. Longueira was student in the University and the army destroy the FECH ("Federación de Estudiantes de la Universidad de Chile", Student Federation of Universty of Chile) and put Longueira in the FECH, no FECH elections, no rights no peace.
i went to chile one time and i fell in love with the country..chilean girls are so exotic plz pinera dont let them cry you bloody bastard! in the future maybe i move to chile and leave the sinking ship europe. keep fighting my chilean frienss let your voice be heard! the capitalism is falling. i belive in chile because i saw how modern country chile is i belive in the chilean people they work hard.chilan girls are hoot! bye bye europe here i come. grettings from s
I think the video is a great representation of the current educational situation here in Chile. We need our free public education to be boosted up.
However, I think the video only shows the right-now phenomenon. Let's face it, la Concertación has done shit in the past 20 years regarding this very issue, cause this IS NOT A NEW PROBLEM. Come on, so Piñera gets elected, and suddenly we have free-education problems??
@JohnKarmy If you keep thinking with that logic, we'd never get some change. It's true, Concertacion didn't do enough or anything for make a deeply change in or system, but now is time for make it... don't you think that? Of course, there's a constant construction. Free education isn't a suddenly fact.
@claufav I couldn't agree more with you. Now is the time! That's the way politicians should work as well, collaborating together. I'm not defending one side more than the other, but it bugs me when they show only one part of the story.
I agree with the students, but this video shows only the "Poor Students" part.
C'mon! Schools in pristine conditions? That looks well in the video, cause I've been around many schools that are completely destroyed by the students. Is that the way to go?
@JohnKarmy what are you talking about? The reportage is showing problems in the public education so it's pointless to show a private school classroom. There are interviews to government authorities, scholars and a member of the Pinochet government.
@ffuentese I didn't mean "Poor Students" economically, but as for "Students who are the Victims here". All that is being shown in the video is true, but it's not all. I've seen how students literally annihilate some public schools as a way of protesting against everything. Is that school going to be rebuilt with a miracle? Or is it going to be rebuilt with the money the Gov. could be using to improve the shitty educational system?
@JohnKarmy I know that some schools have been damaged by students during tomas but I think that's not the point of the reportage to show every event happened during this crisis.
This is a great video but I think that a lot of bad attention was given to the carabineros. There is police brutality but not like depicted in the video. Piñera and the government are the real bad guys.
Chile is doing the right thing... decentralizing the power to the communities, more representation of the lower classes.. equal (at least in quality) education for all... Chile turning into a country where the middle classes with their small business rules. severely taxing the exploiters and big corporations, thats is the right way.i hope in the rest of the world are thinking the same. No more "capitalist freedom" but more social consensus. A big community organized, we'll need no countries then
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you missed something... what does people out of the movement think??? I think, they sucks... I don't think education should be for free... if you are doing this, made a better research... this is not objective...
@catalinaovallec Education for all benefits the entire country, so the state should pay for it. Everybody in a democracy should want their fellow citizens to be well educated - these are the people who you share your vote with. Improve the intelligence of the population and you improve how the entire country is run. What you do not spend on education, you must instead spend on police.
Equality and justice are not the same thing. On contrary, equality is the opposite of justice. People are not equal, if you force equality, than you are not beeing fair with the most productive ones. Which means there is no point beeing productive. So people stop beeing productive. That's why communist economies in the long run tends to failure.
We see a global demand for free education. In Germany we are experiencing similar problems and we stand in solidarity with protesters worldwide who are fighting for open access to knowledge. The problems of the world need all our knowledge and reflection!
Greetings and thanks to all emancipatory movements worldwide!
Thanks Aljazeera for broadcasting this bad news. Our politicians are selling our country and they are also selling our cooper at bargain prices because no one has been able to create a bill that makes international mining companies paying the taxes that they should have to pay. Having education for free is possible but we need the money from our cooper. Please, try to investigate how AngloAmerican and other companies are stealing our resources and our education without paying taxes.
government in chile want to keep the education like it is now:
segregated in elementary and high school where rich study with rich and poor with poor, where the education is good only for the people who can pay for it.
in universities and colleges tariff can go over 8000 usd per year taking into account that the minimum wage is only 340 usd a month!, in this context the only way student can fund their studies is getting long term loans,
i can't believe that even that we got over 100.000 persons in marches only in the capital of Chile, not counting regions, our government still affirms that "it was only the 5% of the students the ones that were movilizated". I'm from a private school and we also support the movement, going to the massive marches, making campaigns to collect food for the students that were "en toma". WE ARE NOT ONLY 5%, WE ARE A MAJORITY! WE NEED CHANGES!
Thanks for all the efforts in showing the truth about Chilean´s Education.
I am a colleague student in Chile who is paying high amount of money and start to have a lot of bills to pay after my studies thanks to the model of business in education.
We deserve a change as society. Our president just protects his own pockets and his gigantic bank account. He is an incompetent leader and Chile is shouting loudly for a change.
@GustavoCLa Eres como muchos extremistas de mi país (¿o también vives aquí?) que por criticar al capitalismo piensan que eres comunista (Y si lo fuera ¿tendría algo de malo?). Entiende, EL SISTEMA POR MÁS DE 20 AÑOS HA DEMOSTRADO QUE NO FUNCIONA, LA BRECHA ENTRE RICOS Y POBRES HA AUMENTADO MÁS y eso mismo ocurre en la educación. ¿Cómo quieres que te lo expliquemos?
@GustavoCLa Si por "progreso" quieres decir "explotar los recursos naturales que tiene Chile para que unos pocos ganen dinero", entonces sí, odiamos el progreso. También odiamos la corrupción de los empresarios que entran en política; si quieres dinero, entonces gánalo, pero no pases a llevar los derechos del resto. ;-)
@GustavoCLa cual progreso tonto wn!!... el unico "progreso" lo dio la concertacion (bien debil eso si), y cuba no es decadencia, viaja un poco chupa fuciles!
We could work on spanish subtitles for this. Anyone? I could help, but I can't finish understanding how the subtitle youtube function works and I miss some words in the video.
@TipoSed Ok. I'm using captiontube, I will need someone to check and correct the subs after I'm done and help in some parts :) volunteers?
Ok, estoy usando captiontube, voy a necesitar alguien para revisar y corregir los subtitulos después que termine y ayuda en algunas partes :) voluntarios?
Good Luck comrades of Chile! You tried to get rid of capitalism during the 70s, but the capitalists striked back with their fascist-puppets. Remember that and make sure you have a revolutionary defense concisting of a well aware workingclassmovement next time! Viva la revolucion, Hasta la victoria siempre! // Red regards from Sweden!
1:20 Yo estuve ahí luego de que los carabineros utilizaran fuerza bruta, me tuve que defender, senía mucha rabia contra los carabineros, que no dejaban de tirar bombas lacrimógenas, y tiraban sus carros lanza aguas en contra de nosotros, incluso contra personas de mayor edad, allí estaban mis profesores de educación media luchando contra este sistema opresor. Es realmente un abuso de poder y violación a nuestra libre expresión como ciudadanos lo que el Estado de Chile nos está haciendo,CHILERISE
This whole thing is reallty ridiculous. Few countries in the world have progressed so much as chile in the past 30 years. Economically and socially. Yet we can hear calls of putting the system down. People are stupid.
@GustavoCLa Can you define what you mean by "progress"? Do you mean "progress" by a bunch of people who owns the 75% of the money of any country? Or you mean "progress" when most of people has to wake up at 5 AM, work hard even over 10 hours daily and SURVIVE with a monthly salary of 400 bucks? That`s your meaning of progress? In this case your progress SUCKS BALLS and I told you this because I LIVE IN CHILE and your capitalism really sucks!
@Gridseeker Progress is people with better income, people living more, people having more education. Anyway you look, Chile progressed. Yes there are people who are rich, why does it bothers it so much? Their wealth is the wealth they generated.
@GustavoCLa Parece que somos del mismo país así que te hablaré en españo. Parece que no leíste bien mi comentario y el de los demás, CHILE ES UNO DE LOS PAÍSES CON PEOR DISITRIBUCIÓN DE LA RIQUEZA, HASTA LA ONU NOS HA ADVERTIDO, HAY GENTE QUE QUE TRABAJA DURO PERO GANA SUELDOS DE 500 USD Y CON ESO TIENE QUE ALIMENTAR FAMILIA PERO NO ALCANZA. Anda un día a Chile y verás que tu progreso es una mera utopía
PS: did you understand what I mentioned before or do you prefer in English?
@GustavoCLa people are stupid when they fight for their rights? economical and social progress, hahahaha, i think i can laugh forever. If freedom and justice (not only economical growth for a few) is stupidity, millions of Chileans are becoming very very stupid, Thank God!!! :D I wish I could spread it faster and wider!
@GustavoCLa Its a free country, yeah, but a country where the 20% of the population gets the 80% of the entire wealth, in a few words bad distribution of the incomes, get it!
The one thing that none of the students are talking about, is where is the government going to get money from to fund free education for all? I live in Chile and pay much less income taxes than I did in the US. The answer is raising income taxes... a difficult order. No one wants more taxes. The children protesting don't always seem to realize this. Sales tax is 19% (very high compared to US). All I'm trying to say is that the solution is complicated. The government can't just flip a spitch.
@omjeremy There are lot of big companies who doesn`t pay taxes or royalties but their profits are very high, for example the mining companies related with the copper. If the government could solve this along with the inadequate distribution of wealth, our country could establish a high quality and free educational system, but at this point its very obvious the current educational system is making worse and one of the main reasons of the social problems of Chile.
@omjeremy the rich dont pay taxes as everywhere in the world, maybe they should pay? Maybe the transmationals should pay fairly for what they take (steal) from us??
@omjeremy easy, retaking back all copper production to the state, then using the incomes to pay everyting. Or just get a decent royalty for all those friggin' American country devourers.
@Kazil6598 That is not going to happen. Chile is a democracy. If we nationalized copper production we would be going against the basis of our country. Venezuela here we come... I agree the education system is not working. All I'm trying to say is that it is a complicated issue that has no clear cut answer. Chile, as it is now, is a young country. Perhaps, in addition to protesting, we should be really thinking about viable solutions. Work hard and try to make a difference. The future is us.
Thanks for the video. This is what Chilean media doesn't show. All of this is due to our extreme capitalism and the binominal election system, which supports a savage slavary system against Chileans. Education, as one of the students said, is just an example of the collapse. We need to change everything. Congrats and thanks again. But also thanks to the new generation of Chileans who fight and give us hope.
If I see this I gain a sovereign contempt for those young people in my country who have all this (free universities, benefits for students etc.) but dont use it because they think getting a proper education is uncool and they want to make own money now with 18.
It would be OK if they were happy with being a bricklayer or something like that. But at age 25 when their acquaintances finish university and start working, too, they start to complain that their wages are too low and all was unfair etc
this shows one thing to me (not that i didn't knew it already), that this system is about to collapse soon, not only in Chile, my country, but worldwide, and is not gonna be pretty...
IMF, World Bank, and other elites, be afraid motherfuckas, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD ARE WAKING UP! Chilean students, Arab springers, indignados, Greek protestors, and Occupiers, WE ARE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS KEEP UP THE FIGHT UNTIL THE PEOPLE ARE FREE.1
Muchas gracias por sacar a la luz el tema que el gobierno censura inculcando la ignorancia en la television, nosotros como jovenes chilenos hemos tomado la responsabilidad de romper con la dictadura disfrazada de democracia.
Thank you for bringing to light the issue that the Government censorship instilling ignorance on television, we as young Chileans have taken the responsibility to break with the dictatorship disfrzada democracy. peace and love.
'We in the government want to create certainty for investors, that in there's a rule of law. there are certain laws, and the institutions work.Their behavior is anti-democratic' -Gov
How hard is it for those 'students' to understand this? Walking around the street singing and yelling is not going to do any good xD. If they want things to change, they should go to the lawmakers, and not attact the private school sector. Want free education? A well paying job too? A house, a nice car? xD
@NMFrame what a rubbish, when i watched the video I couldnt believe Longuiera was saying that rubbish as something totally natural. Your message: people of Chile know that Chile is a country for investors not for Chileans and we have to understand and accept that. A nice car?? hahahah, you are really fucked up.
@NMFrame What a waste of words.. you think that change the laws it's like say "we want free public education" to the people in congress?. It doesn't work coz the people in congress is the same people that has the economic power (elite) btw "walking arround the street singing and yelling is a way to show our discontent..
To be fair, I didn't watch the video, but I've been following the events in Chile. Chilean education is good, considering its economic status. The students should be honest and confess that the only reason they're protesting, right or wrong, is the price of education. They try to sell to foreing media that it's about quality, to make their cause more noble. I believe that there should be public universities free of taxes, but this can be changed through democratic mecanisms, in the ballots.
@GustavoCLa Heh, talk about clueless. Chile has a great per-capita income, but it's unequally distributed among people. Minimum salaries are WAY below the average college tariff, and "it's one of the few countries that priorize the freedom of companies over the education rights." You need to come to Chile more often to realize this goverment is not as sweet as you confidently pointed out. ;-)
@gateauflottant Why this obsession with inequality? Why it bothers you so much that there are some people who are able to generate more money than you? Chile has big inequality, but it has remained the same for all these years, which means poor and rich have improved their income. There is not a country in the world where the minimum salary is bigger than a college tariff. Incidentally I've visited Chile last year it's certainly the most developed country of Latin America.
@GustavoCLa It's because corrpution of chilean politicians and elite is clear (or would you dare to deny it?). And yes, there are countries in Latin America that provide free education, like Argentina, among others. "We're not creating the wheel. It's been done before." Why are you so afraid of changes?
1) Watch the entire video, then you can make your opinion.
2) The students they are protesting not just for a matter of price but also because the entire educational system is wrong, in a few words if you have money you could study at a very good school and then enter to the university, but if you come from a poor family you can only go to a public school that sucks thanks to the dictatorship because Pinochet screwed the public schools.
Go free education !!!! Viva chile
pepegrillo2185g 3 days ago
you have our support from Mexico!
tichergeorge 5 days ago
Thanks for sharing this!
PolloSpeedo 1 week ago
i support it go go
from Sri Lanka
karalikaraya 1 week ago 3
go go go ......for free education..
karalikaraya 1 week ago
My goodness. That young man's mother talking about debt and consumerism tells an eerily familiar tale, does she not?
stenobro 2 weeks ago
education would be free for all. We have the ability to house and feed everyone on the planet. The question of how much would it 'cost' is no longer legitimate, it's do we have enough 'resources' to complete said task. And the answer is yes. Here's a brief interview on Tedx Portugal of how the basic premise an RBEM would work -
/watch?v=4mkRFCtl2MI
33smojo 2 weeks ago
Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, etc. are all inherently obsolete and outdated. I am an active member of a group of individuals who are trying to bring to light a new system, called a Resource Based Economic Model. The resources of the planet will be regarded as the common heritage of all people, phasing out the need for currency. The highest possible standard of living for all is possible, if we use technology intelligently and humanely. A better sustainable world, with the highest possible
33smojo 2 weeks ago
Nice to see an outside look of this issue from non-chilean media.
gj AlJazeera!
elfootman 2 weeks ago
FREE EDUCATION!
GermanWeirdo 3 weeks ago 2
There's no such thing as FREE education. Somebody pays for it. Is it fair that those who get no benefit from the educational system should bear the total cost of providing it for others?
Education has to be a true free market system in order to be efficient (low cost and high quality).
The "free-market" approach they tried was a failure due to sabotage by massive government subsidies. Educators all got hand-outs and had no incentive to improve quality or lower costs to gain market-share.
KDanagger 3 weeks ago in playlist Season 2012
@KDanagger oh please ! you and all that nonsense,the gold alone extracted from the natural resources of Chile can pay for the education of the whole America del sur .The problem is people like u and GREED ,fucking Greed !
rafyselles 3 weeks ago
@KDanagger are you serious? you cant be this ignorant.....
dgoeck 2 weeks ago
Education will not provide salvation. Only Jesus Christ the Savior and God of the universe can provide that. Did education die for your sins? Does education provide justification before God for you? Did education rise from the dead to prove that it has conquered death? No! Only Jesus Christ has done that. Only He can provide the answers we need and the purpose in life that we so desire; Not education.
venicequeen121 4 weeks ago
@venicequeen121 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... pff pff, oh theres more coming hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha breath , I need to breath hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Wow
Doedelhannes 3 weeks ago
@venicequeen121 . . .What are you talking about?
FPSoccerMC 2 weeks ago
@venicequeen121 wow. please leave your jesus nonsense to yourself. you say god created us all right? so why is this world taterred with horrible ruthless and unmoral people. oh and lets see. if you are not part of gods "team" you get sent to a burning hell. no thanks. that kind of god is a ruthless bastard and i would never want to be on a side that thinks like that. This is 2012.. all organized religion is created, funded, prospered and represented by "man" we aren't sheep anymore.
dgoeck 2 weeks ago
too bad France didn't colonize South America :(
They would be a powerhouse if they did.
TheDannyboy55 4 weeks ago
about this. If they didn't, no one would probably know anything about what's going on in Chile right now.
lindylooove 1 month ago
For everyone who keeps blaming Aljazeera for being "biased", I just have to add that the media in Chile has been biased this whole entire time. Just as here in the USA, the elite and upper class citizens control the media and what we-including Chileans-see are what these rich bastards want us to see and not what we NEED to see. The media probably never showed any footage of this protests and how the police forces did to deal with it. So who's biased now?!?! I'm glad that Aljazeera did a footage
lindylooove 1 month ago
Shame on you Aljazeera, you guys have made many mistakes.
1.- There is FREE primary and secondary education in Chile
2.- For the University, students have to pay. It is expensive, is true, but there are thousands of scholarships for good students, last year there were hundreds of scholarships not used because the students did not apply to them.
jndpjndp 1 month ago
3.- The police that you mention as “militarized” is NOT, it is a civil police, there are not militarism on it
4.- Why in every question you have to bring “Pinochet” ? a guy who died many years ago and left the power in 1991 !! . The people that are in the opposition now, the ones calling the students to demonstrate, were 20 years in the power AFTER Pinochet. They did no changes to the system that now they criticize.
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jndpjndp 1 month ago
5.- Many (almost all ) the private Universities were created during the governments of the opposition, for people related to the opposition as well to people in the actual government.
jndpjndp 1 month ago
6.- Without justifying the violation to the human rights ( which has not justification). It is necessary to mention that before Pinochet Chile had the worst economy in South-America, with millions of poor people and even no food. After Pinochet Chile had the best economy in South-America and considered as and stable and growing country. It is a mistake to mix education with the Pinochet regime. It is clear that there is a political interest behind.
jndpjndp 1 month ago
@jndpjndp SO?
nikitarowe 1 month ago
@jndpjndp ECONOMICS DO NOT MEAN GOOD LIFE STANDARS
nikitarowe 1 month ago
@jndpjndp honestly... you read el mercurio or you see too much TV... By the way economics has nothing to do with life quality.. maybe chile is richer than before but andrónico luksic iris fontoba and piñera are chile check about that
pablosonico6 4 weeks ago
@jndpjndp THIS IS NOT ABOUT ALIANZA AND CONCERTACIÓN... THIS IS ABOUT HOW DID THE REGIME MANAGED THE CONSTITUTION IN A WAY YOU CAN'T DEFORM.
nikitarowe 1 month ago
@jndpjndp ARE YOU KIDDING? ARE YOU TRYING TO CLEAN AN ASSASIN'S IMAGE? OR JUST TO AVOID THE FACT THAT HIS GOVERNMENT IS THE RESPONSABLE OF CHILE'S ADMINISTRATIONS, ADMINISTRATIONS THAT LEAD US TO THIS GIANT PROBLEM.
nikitarowe 1 month ago
@jndpjndp YES BUT THAT 'FREE' EDUCATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WILLING OF REACH FACTS AS A GOOD WORK OR A PROSPEROUS LIFE WITHOUT LACK OF SERVICES
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@jndpjndp FOR YOUR SECOND POINT: PEOPLE DON'T REACH THOSE GOOD STANDARS OF MECHANIC INTELLIGENCE 'CAUSE THEY'VE A BAD FORMATION IN THE SCHOOL ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTRY
nikitarowe 1 month ago
7:21 Pablo Longueira (ex-congress man from UDI, the most ultra right political un Chile) is Minister of Economy and Tourism. He studied in the University of Chile, when Pinochet destroyed the state in 11th September in 1973. Longueira was student in the University and the army destroy the FECH ("Federación de Estudiantes de la Universidad de Chile", Student Federation of Universty of Chile) and put Longueira in the FECH, no FECH elections, no rights no peace.
Rattleheadywea 1 month ago
Thanks Aljazeera!
mestizolove 1 month ago
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DeanoProductionsTM 1 month ago
I SUPPORT AND IM NOT FROM CHILE! FREE EDUCATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WantedAngelina 1 month ago 12
grettings from switzerland
Holocaustthree 1 month ago 14
i went to chile one time and i fell in love with the country..chilean girls are so exotic plz pinera dont let them cry you bloody bastard! in the future maybe i move to chile and leave the sinking ship europe. keep fighting my chilean frienss let your voice be heard! the capitalism is falling. i belive in chile because i saw how modern country chile is i belive in the chilean people they work hard.chilan girls are hoot! bye bye europe here i come. grettings from s
Holocaustthree 1 month ago
Ricardo Lagos, EXITOOOO
funktomas69 1 month ago
This has not ended, we are just on vacations.
Ciweman 1 month ago 2
Si quieren ver el documental con subtítulos busquen "Chile se levanta al jazeera"
ffuentese 1 month ago
You can see my super gringo ass walk by at 6:05.
StephinRazin 1 month ago
Resistencia-solidaridad-victoria
Grecia es con usted
MVNemesis 1 month ago 3
I think the video is a great representation of the current educational situation here in Chile. We need our free public education to be boosted up.
However, I think the video only shows the right-now phenomenon. Let's face it, la Concertación has done shit in the past 20 years regarding this very issue, cause this IS NOT A NEW PROBLEM. Come on, so Piñera gets elected, and suddenly we have free-education problems??
Give me a break!
JohnKarmy 1 month ago
@JohnKarmy If you keep thinking with that logic, we'd never get some change. It's true, Concertacion didn't do enough or anything for make a deeply change in or system, but now is time for make it... don't you think that? Of course, there's a constant construction. Free education isn't a suddenly fact.
claufav 1 month ago
@claufav I couldn't agree more with you. Now is the time! That's the way politicians should work as well, collaborating together. I'm not defending one side more than the other, but it bugs me when they show only one part of the story.
I agree with the students, but this video shows only the "Poor Students" part.
C'mon! Schools in pristine conditions? That looks well in the video, cause I've been around many schools that are completely destroyed by the students. Is that the way to go?
JohnKarmy 1 month ago
@JohnKarmy what are you talking about? The reportage is showing problems in the public education so it's pointless to show a private school classroom. There are interviews to government authorities, scholars and a member of the Pinochet government.
I couldn't blame Al Jazeera of being biased.
ffuentese 1 month ago
@ffuentese I didn't mean "Poor Students" economically, but as for "Students who are the Victims here". All that is being shown in the video is true, but it's not all. I've seen how students literally annihilate some public schools as a way of protesting against everything. Is that school going to be rebuilt with a miracle? Or is it going to be rebuilt with the money the Gov. could be using to improve the shitty educational system?
JohnKarmy 1 month ago
@JohnKarmy I know that some schools have been damaged by students during tomas but I think that's not the point of the reportage to show every event happened during this crisis.
ffuentese 1 month ago
This is a great video but I think that a lot of bad attention was given to the carabineros. There is police brutality but not like depicted in the video. Piñera and the government are the real bad guys.
kendra6159 1 month ago
youtube.com/watch?v=ZMt9iQqaewU ese es el reportaje, pero con subtitulos.
anyilara1 1 month ago
@anyilara1 no funciona el enlace
ffuentese 1 month ago
@ffuentese se supone que ese es el reportaje, pero al parecer youtube lo redirecciona
anyilara1 1 month ago
. mi opinion.. me parece excelente que medios extranjeros saquen a la palestra los acontecimientos injustos e indignos que acontecen a nuestro país!
anyilara1 1 month ago
Ricardo Lagos Son a bitch xD
jpsilvafe 1 month ago
Esto no a terminado. Solo estamos de vacaciones ;D
FLPV 1 month ago 2
Grupos Radicales.... Grupos Radicales Everywhere...
(Longueira, ahorcate)
NARODIAZ 1 month ago
Pinera is not very rich ?? Yeah , I think USD 3.000 millions ( 3 Billions US Dollars ) is nothing for one person , special in Chile !
fourkero1 1 month ago
@fourkero1 If Piñera isn't rich, what the fuck we're.
claufav 1 month ago
Lasst die Unis brennen! Unser Leben ist wichtiger als ihre Profite!
deimos1818 1 month ago
wow...I helped bring prosperity....REALLY???? TO A FEW AT THE EXPENSE OF MANY??? SICK MENTALITY!
sandyssanders 1 month ago
sehr schön
ichhabedich1 1 month ago
damn the face of the confederation of chilean students is hotttttttttttttttttt
biggy06605 1 month ago
VAMOS CHILE, CARAJO!!!
el1head 1 month ago
Chile is doing the right thing... decentralizing the power to the communities, more representation of the lower classes.. equal (at least in quality) education for all... Chile turning into a country where the middle classes with their small business rules. severely taxing the exploiters and big corporations, thats is the right way.i hope in the rest of the world are thinking the same. No more "capitalist freedom" but more social consensus. A big community organized, we'll need no countries then
sicoticosandro 1 month ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
you missed something... what does people out of the movement think??? I think, they sucks... I don't think education should be for free... if you are doing this, made a better research... this is not objective...
catalinaovallec 1 month ago
@catalinaovallec Education for all benefits the entire country, so the state should pay for it. Everybody in a democracy should want their fellow citizens to be well educated - these are the people who you share your vote with. Improve the intelligence of the population and you improve how the entire country is run. What you do not spend on education, you must instead spend on police.
annoloki 1 month ago 2
@catalinaovallec numbers don't lie, according to the last Adimark poll the movement has 70% support.
DonGuaton 1 month ago
Piñera is relatively rich?!
pbravovega 1 month ago 2
@pbravovega yo pense lo mismo.. debe ser un señor muy de derecha, como para deicr relativamente rico!!!! es el mas rico de chile (5)
anyilara1 1 month ago
Pure capitalism blows and Chile is proof it can lead to turmoil!
Loltochapel 1 month ago
Lo que dice la flaca en el 12:45 es algo que todos deberiamos entender
MJCKT 1 month ago
Equality and justice are not the same thing. On contrary, equality is the opposite of justice. People are not equal, if you force equality, than you are not beeing fair with the most productive ones. Which means there is no point beeing productive. So people stop beeing productive. That's why communist economies in the long run tends to failure.
GustavoCLa 1 month ago
I'm moving to Chile on Friday . . . Even with this it's better than the UK.
amcinema 1 month ago
We see a global demand for free education. In Germany we are experiencing similar problems and we stand in solidarity with protesters worldwide who are fighting for open access to knowledge. The problems of the world need all our knowledge and reflection!
Greetings and thanks to all emancipatory movements worldwide!
STUDENTS TV HEIDELBERG - WILDWELLE ONLINE
wildwelle 1 month ago 4
Thanks for this video, this help to show to the world what happend right now on chile.
PaToNeChile89 1 month ago 3
@PaToNeChile89 En Heidelberg somos consciente, pero no somos muchos, porque acqui la lucha no esta tan publica... LA EDUCATION PUBLICA SE DEFIENDE!
wildwelle 1 month ago
orgullo por la lucha que estamos llevando adelante!!...a cambiar esto! tenemos la esperanza y es el momento.....
gbirchmeiershaw 1 month ago
thanks for this video, very good job, very good!! greets from Chile :)
ByNaathaan 1 month ago
Thanks Aljazeera for broadcasting this bad news. Our politicians are selling our country and they are also selling our cooper at bargain prices because no one has been able to create a bill that makes international mining companies paying the taxes that they should have to pay. Having education for free is possible but we need the money from our cooper. Please, try to investigate how AngloAmerican and other companies are stealing our resources and our education without paying taxes.
cosafeayo 1 month ago 17
Thank you for this!!!!!!!!
euglefloyd 1 month ago
Esto aun no termina...
brunovsg 1 month ago
Overthrow the Government Chilean . do u really wanna live like real Americans do paycheck to paycheck and no health care
dell1940 1 month ago
take down the World Bank is very hard these people will tell the usa cia to take u Out
dell1940 1 month ago
21:42 Anitaaaa <3
BOOTCAMPCHILE 1 month ago
Wonderful episode of your TV programme!
I'm sharing it with everybody.
Greetings from Chile!
Polluxgeminae 1 month ago 2
government in chile want to keep the education like it is now:
segregated in elementary and high school where rich study with rich and poor with poor, where the education is good only for the people who can pay for it.
in universities and colleges tariff can go over 8000 usd per year taking into account that the minimum wage is only 340 usd a month!, in this context the only way student can fund their studies is getting long term loans,
braianvb 1 month ago
other big problem is many students end up working in something different than they studied.
braianvb 1 month ago
SOLO EL PUEBLO ORGANIZADO PUEDE CONTRA EL PUTO ESTADO DE LOS CUICOS!
logstrain 1 month ago 3
VIVAN LOS ESTUDIANTES CONCHETUMARE.
SmileeEveer 1 month ago 51
i can't believe that even that we got over 100.000 persons in marches only in the capital of Chile, not counting regions, our government still affirms that "it was only the 5% of the students the ones that were movilizated". I'm from a private school and we also support the movement, going to the massive marches, making campaigns to collect food for the students that were "en toma". WE ARE NOT ONLY 5%, WE ARE A MAJORITY! WE NEED CHANGES!
paugsch96 1 month ago 5
@paugsch96 somos el 99% pero... ya no basta con indignarse
are 99% but ... no longer enough to indignant
nachotano1 1 month ago
@nachotano1 Google translate no sirve, tu frase en inglés no tiene sentido.
felain2 1 month ago
Thanks for all the efforts in showing the truth about Chilean´s Education.
I am a colleague student in Chile who is paying high amount of money and start to have a lot of bills to pay after my studies thanks to the model of business in education.
We deserve a change as society. Our president just protects his own pockets and his gigantic bank account. He is an incompetent leader and Chile is shouting loudly for a change.
detodounpoco37 1 month ago 2
traduzcan todo el reportaje porfa...
MsGuas 1 month ago
Pinochet dejo K.O a este país, la concerta le conto hasta 10 y este gobierno lo bajo de ring! quien nos defiende, NADIE!!! CHILE A LA VENTA!
alvaroasb25 1 month ago
@alvaroasb25 Impresionante, tienen odio al progreso. Prefieren el caos de Allende o la decadencia de Cuba.
GustavoCLa 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa Eres como muchos extremistas de mi país (¿o también vives aquí?) que por criticar al capitalismo piensan que eres comunista (Y si lo fuera ¿tendría algo de malo?). Entiende, EL SISTEMA POR MÁS DE 20 AÑOS HA DEMOSTRADO QUE NO FUNCIONA, LA BRECHA ENTRE RICOS Y POBRES HA AUMENTADO MÁS y eso mismo ocurre en la educación. ¿Cómo quieres que te lo expliquemos?
Gridseeker 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa Si por "progreso" quieres decir "explotar los recursos naturales que tiene Chile para que unos pocos ganen dinero", entonces sí, odiamos el progreso. También odiamos la corrupción de los empresarios que entran en política; si quieres dinero, entonces gánalo, pero no pases a llevar los derechos del resto. ;-)
gateauflottant 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa cual progreso tonto wn!!... el unico "progreso" lo dio la concertacion (bien debil eso si), y cuba no es decadencia, viaja un poco chupa fuciles!
alvaroasb25 1 month ago
We could work on spanish subtitles for this. Anyone? I could help, but I can't finish understanding how the subtitle youtube function works and I miss some words in the video.
TipoSed 1 month ago
@TipoSed Ok. I'm using captiontube, I will need someone to check and correct the subs after I'm done and help in some parts :) volunteers?
Ok, estoy usando captiontube, voy a necesitar alguien para revisar y corregir los subtitulos después que termine y ayuda en algunas partes :) voluntarios?
TipoSed 1 month ago
@TipoSed i can help
yo puedo ayudar
paugsch96 1 month ago
@TipoSed but i don't know how that program works
paugsch96 1 month ago
@TipoSed i want to help!
SuperChambala 1 month ago
beautiful! <3
Paminaaful 1 month ago
Good Luck comrades of Chile! You tried to get rid of capitalism during the 70s, but the capitalists striked back with their fascist-puppets. Remember that and make sure you have a revolutionary defense concisting of a well aware workingclassmovement next time! Viva la revolucion, Hasta la victoria siempre! // Red regards from Sweden!
You bring hope!
SociusSvitjod 1 month ago 6
oie además que onda el imbécil de Pablo Longueira tan orgulloso de que Chile es la prostituta del mercado? .. aweonao.
pekeloopi 1 month ago 5
1:20 Yo estuve ahí luego de que los carabineros utilizaran fuerza bruta, me tuve que defender, senía mucha rabia contra los carabineros, que no dejaban de tirar bombas lacrimógenas, y tiraban sus carros lanza aguas en contra de nosotros, incluso contra personas de mayor edad, allí estaban mis profesores de educación media luchando contra este sistema opresor. Es realmente un abuso de poder y violación a nuestra libre expresión como ciudadanos lo que el Estado de Chile nos está haciendo,CHILERISE
MrBrainsickness 1 month ago 2
This whole thing is reallty ridiculous. Few countries in the world have progressed so much as chile in the past 30 years. Economically and socially. Yet we can hear calls of putting the system down. People are stupid.
GustavoCLa 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa Please define "progress".
gateauflottant 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa Can you define what you mean by "progress"? Do you mean "progress" by a bunch of people who owns the 75% of the money of any country? Or you mean "progress" when most of people has to wake up at 5 AM, work hard even over 10 hours daily and SURVIVE with a monthly salary of 400 bucks? That`s your meaning of progress? In this case your progress SUCKS BALLS and I told you this because I LIVE IN CHILE and your capitalism really sucks!
Gridseeker 1 month ago 41
@Gridseeker Progress is people with better income, people living more, people having more education. Anyway you look, Chile progressed. Yes there are people who are rich, why does it bothers it so much? Their wealth is the wealth they generated.
GustavoCLa 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa Parece que somos del mismo país así que te hablaré en españo. Parece que no leíste bien mi comentario y el de los demás, CHILE ES UNO DE LOS PAÍSES CON PEOR DISITRIBUCIÓN DE LA RIQUEZA, HASTA LA ONU NOS HA ADVERTIDO, HAY GENTE QUE QUE TRABAJA DURO PERO GANA SUELDOS DE 500 USD Y CON ESO TIENE QUE ALIMENTAR FAMILIA PERO NO ALCANZA. Anda un día a Chile y verás que tu progreso es una mera utopía
PS: did you understand what I mentioned before or do you prefer in English?
Gridseeker 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa people are stupid when they fight for their rights? economical and social progress, hahahaha, i think i can laugh forever. If freedom and justice (not only economical growth for a few) is stupidity, millions of Chileans are becoming very very stupid, Thank God!!! :D I wish I could spread it faster and wider!
SuperChambala 1 month ago
@SuperChambala Chile is a free country. The income is growing for everyone, not only the rich.
GustavoCLa 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa Its a free country, yeah, but a country where the 20% of the population gets the 80% of the entire wealth, in a few words bad distribution of the incomes, get it!
Gridseeker 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa yes of course, and also the debts...
SuperChambala 1 month ago
and where the international community as the people of Chile is mistreated by the government?
errete 1 month ago
The one thing that none of the students are talking about, is where is the government going to get money from to fund free education for all? I live in Chile and pay much less income taxes than I did in the US. The answer is raising income taxes... a difficult order. No one wants more taxes. The children protesting don't always seem to realize this. Sales tax is 19% (very high compared to US). All I'm trying to say is that the solution is complicated. The government can't just flip a spitch.
omjeremy 1 month ago
@omjeremy There are lot of big companies who doesn`t pay taxes or royalties but their profits are very high, for example the mining companies related with the copper. If the government could solve this along with the inadequate distribution of wealth, our country could establish a high quality and free educational system, but at this point its very obvious the current educational system is making worse and one of the main reasons of the social problems of Chile.
Gridseeker 1 month ago 2
@omjeremy the rich dont pay taxes as everywhere in the world, maybe they should pay? Maybe the transmationals should pay fairly for what they take (steal) from us??
SuperChambala 1 month ago
@omjeremy easy, retaking back all copper production to the state, then using the incomes to pay everyting. Or just get a decent royalty for all those friggin' American country devourers.
Kazil6598 1 month ago
@Kazil6598 That is not going to happen. Chile is a democracy. If we nationalized copper production we would be going against the basis of our country. Venezuela here we come... I agree the education system is not working. All I'm trying to say is that it is a complicated issue that has no clear cut answer. Chile, as it is now, is a young country. Perhaps, in addition to protesting, we should be really thinking about viable solutions. Work hard and try to make a difference. The future is us.
omjeremy 1 month ago
Kill the rich.
TheLeFlow 1 month ago
Thanks for the video. This is what Chilean media doesn't show. All of this is due to our extreme capitalism and the binominal election system, which supports a savage slavary system against Chileans. Education, as one of the students said, is just an example of the collapse. We need to change everything. Congrats and thanks again. But also thanks to the new generation of Chileans who fight and give us hope.
bovedasdeacero 1 month ago
no hay que bajar los brazos! este 2012 hay que darle de nuevo y con más fuerza!
pekeloopi 1 month ago 2
Very very good stuff, thanks for the people who did this possible.
Muy buen material, gracias a la gente que hizo esto posible.
falcoasd 1 month ago
jajaj escuchar hablar ingles a lagos es para morir de la risa xDD
LoveInsane00 1 month ago
Muy buen documental, vamos Chile mierda!! que somos mas!
MrPanxok 1 month ago
que buen documental, felicitaciones, Lagos habla ingles peor que Menem jaja
kosmokramer21 1 month ago
Con subtitulos por favor!
with subtittles please ESPAÑOL!!
Girlxloveweed 1 month ago 5
Thanks for following up on the struggle for public education, your piece on Puerto Rico was also excellent. Same struggle for a democratic education.
rodrigvm 1 month ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
We are the 99%
ToeInspector 1 month ago
thanks for this video it shows the truth about our country and not what our national media wants us to believe.
WelcomeToTheNextLvl 1 month ago
Just great, thx to you all, this is the truth the rich people in power just don´t want to see.
erreflores 1 month ago
former president at 15:00 is fairly pleased with himself
Misterphooey 1 month ago
If I see this I gain a sovereign contempt for those young people in my country who have all this (free universities, benefits for students etc.) but dont use it because they think getting a proper education is uncool and they want to make own money now with 18.
It would be OK if they were happy with being a bricklayer or something like that. But at age 25 when their acquaintances finish university and start working, too, they start to complain that their wages are too low and all was unfair etc
lumberj23 1 month ago
17:30 "Piñera is not very rich..." His net worth is $2.4 B. If that's not being very rich, then I'm not very upset.
csaavedra 1 month ago 6
Rock on and power to the people. Long ive the free human spirit.
Angus1966 1 month ago 5
this shows one thing to me (not that i didn't knew it already), that this system is about to collapse soon, not only in Chile, my country, but worldwide, and is not gonna be pretty...
SouthSuicide20 1 month ago 4
IMF, World Bank, and other elites, be afraid motherfuckas, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD ARE WAKING UP! Chilean students, Arab springers, indignados, Greek protestors, and Occupiers, WE ARE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS KEEP UP THE FIGHT UNTIL THE PEOPLE ARE FREE.1
Loltochapel 1 month ago 45
@Loltochapel
You're so wrong...
EarendilTheBlessed 1 month ago
@EarendilTheBlessed Do you have anything else to back up that claim or are you just going to leave it at that?
Loltochapel 1 month ago
para los bilingues 8:10 cuando explican como Nixon mando a Pin8 a derrocar a Allende.
amegland 1 month ago
esto nos recuerda mucho, gracias
vamos a seguir
nadienosdijoesto 1 month ago
Educacion de Mierda, Ingles de Mierda de Lagos
Daleetano 1 month ago
Vamos mi Chile a no rendirse por los derechos
isabeliiitha91 1 month ago 3
Muchas gracias por sacar a la luz el tema que el gobierno censura inculcando la ignorancia en la television, nosotros como jovenes chilenos hemos tomado la responsabilidad de romper con la dictadura disfrazada de democracia.
Thank you for bringing to light the issue that the Government censorship instilling ignorance on television, we as young Chileans have taken the responsibility to break with the dictatorship disfrzada democracy. peace and love.
sorry my bad English, is that students in Chile
vrdfunktastik 1 month ago 4
Go chilean youth, go. Spring comes.
jusantib 1 month ago 4
'We in the government want to create certainty for investors, that in there's a rule of law. there are certain laws, and the institutions work.Their behavior is anti-democratic' -Gov
How hard is it for those 'students' to understand this? Walking around the street singing and yelling is not going to do any good xD. If they want things to change, they should go to the lawmakers, and not attact the private school sector. Want free education? A well paying job too? A house, a nice car? xD
NMFrame 1 month ago
@NMFrame what a rubbish, when i watched the video I couldnt believe Longuiera was saying that rubbish as something totally natural. Your message: people of Chile know that Chile is a country for investors not for Chileans and we have to understand and accept that. A nice car?? hahahah, you are really fucked up.
SuperChambala 1 month ago
@NMFrame What a waste of words.. you think that change the laws it's like say "we want free public education" to the people in congress?. It doesn't work coz the people in congress is the same people that has the economic power (elite) btw "walking arround the street singing and yelling is a way to show our discontent..
ignaciomenz 1 month ago
To be fair, I didn't watch the video, but I've been following the events in Chile. Chilean education is good, considering its economic status. The students should be honest and confess that the only reason they're protesting, right or wrong, is the price of education. They try to sell to foreing media that it's about quality, to make their cause more noble. I believe that there should be public universities free of taxes, but this can be changed through democratic mecanisms, in the ballots.
GustavoCLa 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa So why do you comment on a youtube video then if you don't watch it?
haroliano 1 month ago
@haroliano It was 1 o'clock in the morining and I was tired.
GustavoCLa 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa you are right, we live in Wonderland, how didnt i notice that before! Thank your for opening my eyes.
SuperChambala 1 month ago
@SuperChambala No, my friend, you live in reality. But you and your fellow students want to live in wonderland, too bad wonderland doesn't exist.
GustavoCLa 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa Heh, talk about clueless. Chile has a great per-capita income, but it's unequally distributed among people. Minimum salaries are WAY below the average college tariff, and "it's one of the few countries that priorize the freedom of companies over the education rights." You need to come to Chile more often to realize this goverment is not as sweet as you confidently pointed out. ;-)
gateauflottant 1 month ago
@gateauflottant Why this obsession with inequality? Why it bothers you so much that there are some people who are able to generate more money than you? Chile has big inequality, but it has remained the same for all these years, which means poor and rich have improved their income. There is not a country in the world where the minimum salary is bigger than a college tariff. Incidentally I've visited Chile last year it's certainly the most developed country of Latin America.
GustavoCLa 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa It's because corrpution of chilean politicians and elite is clear (or would you dare to deny it?). And yes, there are countries in Latin America that provide free education, like Argentina, among others. "We're not creating the wheel. It's been done before." Why are you so afraid of changes?
gateauflottant 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa Do you know France and its public education? Maybe no.
felain2 1 month ago
@GustavoCLa
1) Watch the entire video, then you can make your opinion.
2) The students they are protesting not just for a matter of price but also because the entire educational system is wrong, in a few words if you have money you could study at a very good school and then enter to the university, but if you come from a poor family you can only go to a public school that sucks thanks to the dictatorship because Pinochet screwed the public schools.
Gridseeker 1 month ago 4
From Chile to Greece, FUCK THE POLICE
Fralcon 1 month ago 4
@Fralcon u rock dude
ucodetiaw 1 month ago
Free Market Bullshit knows no borders
Fralcon 1 month ago
#Solidarity
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