I think the Beatles were lucky to be first quite honestly. Bands that came after such as the Kinks had a much better sound and were unlucky not to get there first.
I both like and understand The Beatles and The Shins. Anyone who argues against another person's opinion has some serious growing up to do. I say sir and misspell shit on occasion. Usually not the word Niche but i don't say that shit very often. I was not alive during the 60s or 70s so your propoganda speech means nothing to me. Sounds like someone needs to get laid. Enjoy your eclectic tape/cd collections, in your mom's basement. you'll probably be there for a long time...alone
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hahaha! Firstly, someone who has to correct another's spelling has nothing of value to say. And your use of 'sir' shows you like formality and think highly of yourself, sir...You arrogant prick..Now fuck off and suck your mother's dick.
What I am trying to say is that the Beatles were probably the first group to fully exploit the use of media..they became more than a music group. 1/2 of Lennon's fame is due to his political interests..so..it shows that it wasn't just about music.
You say that they carved a 'nitch' with musical talent..I think that while some of the Beatles' stuff is talented..alot was to do with the fact that they bore the 'free and happy' message..60s were very conservative;there was less of a musical influence..so much of their prowess is due to the fact that they had a strong media prescence..very commercial. Most who say they are talented may have been influenced by this..its all Publicity..brainwashing! ;P
Music appeal is all about an individuals taste, so neither of you are in the wrong. The Beatles reached an unknown height to the music world in the early 60s late 70s (with exceptions to many other bands0. The Shins carved their nitch as the first indie band to hit top charts in the 90s. Music styles are different, but they both made a name for themselves during their time. I love each band's attributes to the art.
It is certainly based on what someone is appealed to, which makes both your arguments logical; however, to compare The Beatles with The Shins is hard to do. Each musical group has carved its own nitch, if you will, into the liking of the public. The Beatles 'reign' was in early 60s to late 70s, and they accomplished, with their music a talented height unknown, really, to the music world at that time. The Shins became the first indie band to hit top charts in the 90s, giving them their nitch.
@PlutonianBum i don't think i personally know anyone who listens to music that they don't like. The Beatles were big because they had (have) a popular sound. can't hate them for that.
The Shins are the real deal, though. agreed there.
@iamfulloblarny bahaha are you serious? the beatles were big because they had a "popular sound". If you knew ANYTHING about music, you would disown that statement immediately. The Beatles wrote 95 % of their own music and applied musical theory that would blow your mind, espically in their later years.
Not only was their music amazing, it was revolutionary. Before strawberry fields, there had never been a musical sound even close to the indiness of that track. Even musicians who don't like The Beatles music still give them respect which they deserve.
Jump off the non conformist train, you close minded fool.
@czherrios6 i love the beatles. what are getting so up-in-arms about? calm down. how doesn't one of the most popular bands ever not have a popular sound? we agree on most everything you said, except the parts where you insult me (needlessly).
"People don't understand or listen, they follow the flock mentality"
Speak for yourself, seriously. Not all people are as braindead as you are. The Beatles are absolutely incredible. I'm pretty sure the entire world couldn't all fit on a bandwagon.
@PlutonianBum i heard this song called "here comes the sun" when i was in my teens and i fucking loved it. didn't know it was a beatles song. some people do follow the flock mentality, like you hating mainstream because you're so anti-establishment like about a billion other people, but real beatle fans actually exist bro.
You've just made a hypocritical statement. "Most people don't understand" being the main point.
I've been listening to the Shins since Flake music, and the Beatles since I was born. If you don't understand the appeal of both types of music, you have an extremely low quality of understanding of music.
Well my 'personal opinion' of the beatles is that I don't like them. I don't deny their overwhelming popularity but I really just don't like them myself.
That's cool. They grew on me.. but anyway I was being 'serious'. ;) lyrically and musically the Beatles are superior to the shins, in mine and most of the world's opinion. It was jmaths comment that got me commenting: "who else has so many ridiculously awesome songs.." as though it was hard to think of someone.. If after you've at least given the beatles the time of the day, you still prefer the shins, that's fine.. but its a bit ludicrous to overlook them completely like he/she did.
I didn't always dislike the beatles. They are catchy I give them that, but I just grew to be sick of everyone attributing all this musical genius to them when all of their songs are just so simplistic. Which I guess is the point but I'd much rather not listen to it.
And that person's comment was really lousy...I can agree with you on that.
The Beatles are one of the most influential bands around. you have to at least respect them. if it wasn't for them bands wouldn't even be writing their own songs. Elvis Presly didn't write his own songs! god do some research before you talk...
Are you serious? I know that Elvis didn't write his own songs, what does that even have to do with this conversation.
Secondly are you telling me that just because the Beatles wrote some ditsy five-minute-to-compose songs some other bands couldn't figure it out on their own? It doesn't seem that complicated. The Beatles sound nice and all but I'm pretty sick of everyone having an orgy over them, if everyone wasn't so annoying I might actually appreciate it more.
Ditsy five minute-to-compose songs? The Beatles probably wrote the most songs with real deep meaning and a great sound. Don't blame others for your own actions.
I don't see why this is such a big deal. I gave them a chance. I don't like the Beatles. Is that so mindboggling that one person in the world could not like them?
@ezratea it makes me really happy that 28 people agree with you (: i love the shins so much.every time i say who my favorite band people are like whaaaat, whoo?
this song is so important to me. I listened to this song, at 4 in the morning, on many an indistinct night in my younger days (younger being a few years ago), not within my wits, but pleasantly comfortable (if you know what I mean)...this song brings back an era in my life...few songs can do that...love the shins
everyone has a different taste in music but the shins songs are all so great. to me its not one of those bands that you get the album and only have a song or two that you like.
one wound up punch of intuition lays flat my whole take on us, you're the girl on the wing of the barnstormer, a tidal rabbit who came of age before her time
This is my fave song of theirs. Love the "let the garden grow by itself" part. What beautiful metaphors they use
PinkMimosa 1 day ago
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You really destroyed the all that is good about this song. Please, step down from your high emo horse into a tar pit and drown.
Mushr00mhead 1 month ago
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Mushr00mhead 1 month ago
so fucking underrated.........
Ruzzatori 2 months ago
this looks like south dakota,
used to live there :(
ninjasovity 8 months ago
I don't know why this was so entertaining but yeah good job on the vid. Good quality. Great song. 5/5
WackyMcSnazzypants 11 months ago
herregud ass skarru få et epilepsianfall i senga nå
fjompen 11 months ago
i fell in love with this song within the first 10 seconds of listening to it
andykins118118 1 year ago
I think the Beatles were lucky to be first quite honestly. Bands that came after such as the Kinks had a much better sound and were unlucky not to get there first.
Crummydee 1 year ago
i love this video.
MrCrokkias 1 year ago
I'm not too keen on this song... Much prefer their slower, softer songs. Like Red Rabbits and Sea Legs.
CoIorful 1 year ago
The Shins and The Beatles are my two favourite bands! :)
Canadianabanana 1 year ago
love love love this song. love love loooooveee the shins. brilliance in simplicity. they're also fantacular live.
upinyodamngrill 1 year ago
Really great song :)
Pegasus300100 1 year ago
This song has a brilliant tension. It sounds very much like The Cars. Brilliant. Everyone else can STFU!
rfmitch67 1 year ago 2
lol
soulskater100 1 year ago
why is there so much drama on this video? this is such an amazing song by an amazing band too!
planetjanine 1 year ago
I both like and understand The Beatles and The Shins. Anyone who argues against another person's opinion has some serious growing up to do. I say sir and misspell shit on occasion. Usually not the word Niche but i don't say that shit very often. I was not alive during the 60s or 70s so your propoganda speech means nothing to me. Sounds like someone needs to get laid. Enjoy your eclectic tape/cd collections, in your mom's basement. you'll probably be there for a long time...alone
PoeticChaosx 2 years ago 5
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hahaha! Firstly, someone who has to correct another's spelling has nothing of value to say. And your use of 'sir' shows you like formality and think highly of yourself, sir...You arrogant prick..Now fuck off and suck your mother's dick.
PlutonianBum 2 years ago
What I am trying to say is that the Beatles were probably the first group to fully exploit the use of media..they became more than a music group. 1/2 of Lennon's fame is due to his political interests..so..it shows that it wasn't just about music.
PlutonianBum 2 years ago 3
You say that they carved a 'nitch' with musical talent..I think that while some of the Beatles' stuff is talented..alot was to do with the fact that they bore the 'free and happy' message..60s were very conservative;there was less of a musical influence..so much of their prowess is due to the fact that they had a strong media prescence..very commercial. Most who say they are talented may have been influenced by this..its all Publicity..brainwashing! ;P
PlutonianBum 2 years ago
Your argument is shallow and pedantic, you spelled "niche" wrong.
Also your mother is a whore.
Good day sir
whitephish11 2 years ago
Music appeal is all about an individuals taste, so neither of you are in the wrong. The Beatles reached an unknown height to the music world in the early 60s late 70s (with exceptions to many other bands0. The Shins carved their nitch as the first indie band to hit top charts in the 90s. Music styles are different, but they both made a name for themselves during their time. I love each band's attributes to the art.
This video is awesome, by the way.
alexandrafy 2 years ago 6
It is certainly based on what someone is appealed to, which makes both your arguments logical; however, to compare The Beatles with The Shins is hard to do. Each musical group has carved its own nitch, if you will, into the liking of the public. The Beatles 'reign' was in early 60s to late 70s, and they accomplished, with their music a talented height unknown, really, to the music world at that time. The Shins became the first indie band to hit top charts in the 90s, giving them their nitch.
alexandrafy 2 years ago
I agree with Livfor1Love...I don't find any appeal in the Beatles..but I could listen to The Shins all day.
The Beatles are world-renowned..most ppl don't understand or listen..they follow the flock mentality.
PlutonianBum 2 years ago
Agreed.
corbo88 2 years ago
@PlutonianBum i don't think i personally know anyone who listens to music that they don't like. The Beatles were big because they had (have) a popular sound. can't hate them for that.
The Shins are the real deal, though. agreed there.
iamfulloblarny 1 year ago
@iamfulloblarny bahaha are you serious? the beatles were big because they had a "popular sound". If you knew ANYTHING about music, you would disown that statement immediately. The Beatles wrote 95 % of their own music and applied musical theory that would blow your mind, espically in their later years.
czherrios6 1 year ago
@iamfulloblarny continuing....
Not only was their music amazing, it was revolutionary. Before strawberry fields, there had never been a musical sound even close to the indiness of that track. Even musicians who don't like The Beatles music still give them respect which they deserve.
Jump off the non conformist train, you close minded fool.
czherrios6 1 year ago
@czherrios6 i love the beatles. what are getting so up-in-arms about? calm down. how doesn't one of the most popular bands ever not have a popular sound? we agree on most everything you said, except the parts where you insult me (needlessly).
iamfulloblarny 1 year ago 2
@czherrios6 non-conformist train? okay then.
iamfulloblarny 1 year ago
@PlutonianBum
If only people saw the world the way we indie snobs do.
enigmafia89 1 year ago 9
@PlutonianBum that's just sad
MrMrrRNELLi 11 months ago
@PlutonianBum
"People don't understand or listen, they follow the flock mentality"
Speak for yourself, seriously. Not all people are as braindead as you are. The Beatles are absolutely incredible. I'm pretty sure the entire world couldn't all fit on a bandwagon.
cKunke2 9 months ago 9
@PlutonianBum i heard this song called "here comes the sun" when i was in my teens and i fucking loved it. didn't know it was a beatles song. some people do follow the flock mentality, like you hating mainstream because you're so anti-establishment like about a billion other people, but real beatle fans actually exist bro.
basstardize 6 months ago 5
@PlutonianBum I don't think you've ever listened to The Beatles.
StupidGoodProduction 5 months ago
@PlutonianBum
You've just made a hypocritical statement. "Most people don't understand" being the main point.
I've been listening to the Shins since Flake music, and the Beatles since I was born. If you don't understand the appeal of both types of music, you have an extremely low quality of understanding of music.
suppie100 2 months ago
@PlutonianBum Maybe you would enjoy their later stuff. I am a Beatles fan, but believe their later work was better.
NJpanther05 1 month ago in playlist The Shins
@PlutonianBum you are what we call a "hipster douchebag."
freddiegibbs101 1 month ago 3
i love the shins!!!
SroShego 2 years ago 3
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fuck your personal opinion
TonySarandrea215 2 years ago
shins are the shit. smartest band ever
RachelleWynne 2 years ago 11
i saw them at the beginning of the month, it was one of the best concerts I've ever seen.
tranzesterradiorocks 2 years ago
Aw! No fair!!! I looove the Shins.
Nebulafantasy 2 years ago
the shins are probably the best band ever
ezratea 2 years ago 43
they just might be. who else has so many ridiculously awesome songs?
jmaths117 2 years ago 8
i know dude! I wish my musical project will at least be 1/2 as talented as the shins
ezratea 2 years ago 4
make sure you put it on youtube
jmaths117 2 years ago
will do bro! :)
ezratea 2 years ago
errm.. the beatles? You might have heard of em.
The Shins are awesome. but come on..
Billsyboy1986 2 years ago 2
Seriously? Ugh I don't even like the beatles
but I love the shins
Livfor1Love 2 years ago
Your personal opinion is separate, based on your taste in music.. but the "greatness" of the Beatles is undeniable.
Billsyboy1986 2 years ago 3
Well my 'personal opinion' of the beatles is that I don't like them. I don't deny their overwhelming popularity but I really just don't like them myself.
Livfor1Love 2 years ago 4
That's cool. They grew on me.. but anyway I was being 'serious'. ;) lyrically and musically the Beatles are superior to the shins, in mine and most of the world's opinion. It was jmaths comment that got me commenting: "who else has so many ridiculously awesome songs.." as though it was hard to think of someone.. If after you've at least given the beatles the time of the day, you still prefer the shins, that's fine.. but its a bit ludicrous to overlook them completely like he/she did.
Billsyboy1986 2 years ago
I didn't always dislike the beatles. They are catchy I give them that, but I just grew to be sick of everyone attributing all this musical genius to them when all of their songs are just so simplistic. Which I guess is the point but I'd much rather not listen to it.
And that person's comment was really lousy...I can agree with you on that.
Livfor1Love 2 years ago
The Beatles are one of the most influential bands around. you have to at least respect them. if it wasn't for them bands wouldn't even be writing their own songs. Elvis Presly didn't write his own songs! god do some research before you talk...
planetjanine 1 year ago
Are you serious? I know that Elvis didn't write his own songs, what does that even have to do with this conversation.
Secondly are you telling me that just because the Beatles wrote some ditsy five-minute-to-compose songs some other bands couldn't figure it out on their own? It doesn't seem that complicated. The Beatles sound nice and all but I'm pretty sick of everyone having an orgy over them, if everyone wasn't so annoying I might actually appreciate it more.
Livfor1Love 1 year ago
@Livfor1Love
Ditsy five minute-to-compose songs? The Beatles probably wrote the most songs with real deep meaning and a great sound. Don't blame others for your own actions.
1969JohnLennon1969 1 year ago
@1969JohnLennon1969
Probably not.
I don't see why this is such a big deal. I gave them a chance. I don't like the Beatles. Is that so mindboggling that one person in the world could not like them?
Livfor1Love 1 year ago
@Livfor1Love No but you stated an untrue line. And you were corrected. Nothing more, nothing less. I never said you had to like the Beatles.
1969JohnLennon1969 1 year ago
@1969JohnLennon1969
Yes because personal opinion, on meaning and sound, can be untrue.
Livfor1Love 1 year ago
@Livfor1Love I wasn't writing about the sound but the statement about "ditsy five minute-to-compose songs."
1969JohnLennon1969 1 year ago
@ezratea it makes me really happy that 28 people agree with you (: i love the shins so much.every time i say who my favorite band people are like whaaaat, whoo?
heyyjules 1 year ago
this song is so important to me. I listened to this song, at 4 in the morning, on many an indistinct night in my younger days (younger being a few years ago), not within my wits, but pleasantly comfortable (if you know what I mean)...this song brings back an era in my life...few songs can do that...love the shins
johnmucklerzen 2 years ago 2
im doing just that right now :)
madrileno89 2 years ago
does he have a water bed? whatever it is his bed looks so cumfy
BillabongBoo 2 years ago 3
Dunno, doesn't really look sloshy enough for a water bed.
Hyoscine 2 years ago 2
<3 me some Shins :S
TokenTombstone 2 years ago 2
this song and sea legs make my heart cry with amazement of sorts.
ihateben88 2 years ago 3
Corbin I love you have 400 kenyan children with me
karisemarie 2 years ago 2
AMAZING BAND! This is one of their originals, from back in the day.
-Great Job!
TrigunCole 3 years ago
from back in the day?? it was only a few years ago...jeez
tarheel8494 2 years ago
from now yest back in the day.... Jeez adolescent
TrigunCole 2 years ago
the thing about the shins that they don't try to innovate music but to make great music and this they do very well as all of us can hear
Godevit 3 years ago 2
This song always lifts my mood a notch or two no matter what.
isoSkroting 3 years ago 3
so if you listen to it multiple times consecutively, you will be super duper happy?
enigmaCSS 3 years ago 3
lol :p
adris64 3 years ago
DAM that shits arty. Lol, I love the Shins with all my love, been a favourite of mine for so long. Please keep making (amazing) music please.
spicy69838 3 years ago
the shins are amazing
Jophelerx 3 years ago 3
<3 The Shins!
TheShinsRcool 3 years ago 4
is it only me or theres no other band like the shins
Godevit 3 years ago 7
it's not just you. Mercer is the shiiiiiiiiiiit XD
Dashielus 3 years ago 3
oh my gosh! this is my favorite song by the shins! :) the video was fun
RaRawesome 3 years ago 2
Once I heard these guys back in '04 I literally could listen to nothing else. Thats still true today! Best band I've heard in years! Viva La Shins!
djtoothdecay 3 years ago 8
something about the chorus on this makes me love this song, just their sound is awsome
Angel8795 3 years ago 3
that is soo true :|
defo89 3 years ago 2
exactly!
but it's like that with most of their songs. there's just sth that makes you want to listen to them all the time. the overall sound. amazing.
dzozia 3 years ago 4
New favorite?! They've been mine for 5 years. :)
evapor8ed 3 years ago 3
o_o i dont understand...
turnupthevolumeLOL 3 years ago 3
Right, the Moog. It's very haunting, however you spell it. Typo only, but thanks anyways.
stevedohar 3 years ago
my favourite song by them
iadf 3 years ago 4
synthesizer
stevedohar 3 years ago 4
i like the syntesizer on this song.
stevedohar 3 years ago 4
not one of the best songs ever but one of the best on the album lets not get carried away
DaAliminator 3 years ago 18
this is one of the best songs ever!
selmalovestodance 3 years ago 7
one of the best songs in Oh, Inverted World ^^
blueberryslurpee 3 years ago 6
this is my new fave band...
smyrnawednesday 3 years ago 11
that place looks like wyoming...
fetustium 3 years ago
South Dakota.
corbo88 3 years ago 4
o just to the northeast
fetustium 3 years ago
everyone has a different taste in music but the shins songs are all so great. to me its not one of those bands that you get the album and only have a song or two that you like.
camilletron3000 3 years ago 2
great.
tracylane318 3 years ago 3
that is so beatles!
juancheee 4 years ago 8
one wound up punch of intuition lays flat my whole take on us, you're the girl on the wing of the barnstormer, a tidal rabbit who came of age before her time
AllBusiness14701 4 years ago 7
Great pacing bright fades and editing on this, you created a perfect dreamlike quality that fits this song like a glove.
pixiegamine 4 years ago 5
the shins RULE !!!
stevedohar 4 years ago 8
defiantly top five shins song. personally i think its impossible to which song is the best. they are all so darn good!
Ovlah 4 years ago 7
probably one of my favourite ones of their songs this and saint simon THE SHINS ARE GODS!
HunterOfPeace777 4 years ago 4
Excellently crafted song. Very effortless, I love it.
KKZReset11 4 years ago 6
What playful song :P
Duskmelt 4 years ago 6
*a playful song. lol whoops :)
Duskmelt 4 years ago 4
OMG
what a great song the intro gives me chills
I love the Shins
33greatabe33 4 years ago 3
video-very interesting (:
ending scene of video-intriguing (:
clivestaples99 4 years ago 2
OMG this is like so amazing!!!
tamborelli 4 years ago 2
jamiroquai hat
Superskater 4 years ago 3
Just bought the album. The Shins rock!
Brabandia 4 years ago 3
my favorite Shins song!
kutchiara 4 years ago
this song is gooood,
selmalovestodance 4 years ago
crazy about you
LOVE THE SHINS!!!!!!
ildoco 4 years ago
i have that same hat
mcanes44 4 years ago
dude, nice hat.
deadbrick13 4 years ago
tyea
jayceepark 4 years ago
Great job! especially the expression of your face is really convincing! :)
Repatch 4 years ago
This song rules :)
sjurch 4 years ago
hell yeah
this song rules
TheBoscoFactor 4 years ago
yout did a realyyyyy good job :D
samanthaway1010 4 years ago
This song is so under-rated compared to other Shins songs. I hope they play it when they play in Dublin!!!!!:)
curly90210 4 years ago
I don't see the point of this mv.
But I like the song.
x03821920 better than what I can do.
I would do a mv about fruit.
MiNomBreEsJimChee 4 years ago 2
monkettine: music is not about videos. if they didnt have a single video they would still be great. go youtube some black eye peas and be happy
s001529 5 years ago
Love the video...it looks like you did all of it from a tripod...just like my video response...I guess we are both loners.
hcord 5 years ago
your stupid!!!
great song
Beaverman4u 5 years ago 3
I love this song !!!
Great video :)
p4r4zit3 5 years ago