A lot of Canadians would love to have seen the amount of aid going to Africa increased, but no, no, Emperor Harper cut it off altogether because he's too greedy, like you CONs give a fuck about people in need.
@gricer1326 It wasn't harper who called the election was it? It was a waste of a lot of money, NDP? They cant even look after our country. Saskatchewan would never come close to voting for them. IMO I think harper is running the country fine.
@furnando72 Think man, think! The election was called as a direct result of Harper's extremely unsatisfactory (what am I saying? UNDERSTATEMENT) behaviour. So I think we all know who's really responsible.
Don't worry, Liberal whiners: If your vaunted Count Ignatieff doesn't win he has a cozy coalition agreement to fall back on to steal the PMO away from a legal vote like the Coalition of Losers tried to do in 2008.
@thisismedgr First of all, the coalition doesn't exist. Second of all, coalitions are perfectly legal and legit. Thirdly, your vaunted Dictator Harper was prepared to join a coalition against the Liberals before he got into office.
The reason we are throwing Harper out of office is because he has lost the moral right to govern this country. Martin was thrown out for a lot less than this.
@gricer1326 It exists on paper until June 30 2011. Never said coalitions were illegal, we just all know this one was immoral and nothing to do with democracy. Where is the paperwork to prove Harper wanted a coalition? Oh yes, there is none, not like the declaration your heroes signed behind closed doors. PS: The CPC won and Martin was thrown out for as mush or more. I'll toast with my beer, you cry in yours.
@thisismedgr No, you're right, it had more to do with the fact that the current leader was abusing democracy and that he needed to be ousted immediately. Harper publicly announced that he was willing to form and lead a coalition agaisnt Paul Martin, who was thrown out of office for way less than what Harper has inflicted so far.
@gricer1326 Martin played shell games with taxpayer money to create the illusion of a balanced budget, but made tax loopholes for himself. A ruling from the Supreme Court of Canada declared the LPC handling of EI funds was unconstitutional. As for Harper, when did he "publicly" make that announcement? All Duceppe ever had as prrof was a public letter to the GG, signed by Harper, Layton, and Duceppe, asking the GG "consider all options" in the face of a non-confidence motion. Nice try.
@thisismedgr Gee, Harper really seems like a good guy.....until you factor in his abuse of democracy, proroguing (illegally) to avoid a non-confidence motion, censoring the media, lying to the public, altering signed documents, possibly cheating in an election, breaking campaign spending rules, arresting and jailing 1100 innocent people without reasonable cause, refusing to provide info on Afghan torture (which he could have possibly given approval for), been found in contempt of parliament,
@thisismedgr (cont'd) been denied, for the first time ever, a UN security council seat, spent ridiculous amounts of money on ridiculous things (fighter jets, anyone? They work about about as well as Windows and cost a crapload of money!), given tax breaks to huge corporations instead of smaller, more local businesses, talked about an "economic action plan" which as far as I can discern, DOESN'T EXIST save for the signs, made Canada an international laughing-stock, threatened the opposition,
@thisismedgr (cont'd) cut off funding for countries in need, created bill C-10, is running the country billions into the red......I mean, this is a guy with a proven track record for bad news, and you VOTED FOR HIM? Really?
I sincerely hope we're not all fucked because of people like you.
@gricer1326 "Cowardly"? I can't even view this propaganda video anymore because suddenly it's "Private"! The Security Seat? We support Israel, that's why we lost it. Fighter jets? Ours are old and falling apart, who needs new ones, right? We all got tax breaks from the CPC so 1% for corporations doesn't bother me, get over your money envy. CPC MPs didn't run amok calling Americans "Bastards" and telling them to go to hell, speaking of laughing stock. Aside from whining, you got nothing.
@thisismedgr There's no comparison here! This video was created by a some guy who's fed up with Harper, and it's ONE VIDEO. All of the neoCON videos: comments disabled, ratings disabled, embedding disabled, for ALL OF THEIR VIDEOS. Every single one. With the liberals and NDP that doesn't happen. All of their videos are open to criticism and they are to be commended for that.
@thisismedgr Why exactly are we supporting Isreal? They're being complete assholes, denying Gaza aid, boarding ships bringing aid to Gaza and shooting the crew, stopping trucks, you name it, they've probably done it. These new fighter jets, they DON'T FUCKING WORK. They're less reliable than the ones we have now, even the country that makes them doesn't use them (hence "they work about as well as WINDOWS")!
@thisismedgr Corporations are dangerous animals if you keep them on too long a leash. They'll basically bulldoze anything that happens to stand in their way in so their CEOs can make ridiculous amounts of money. Ever heard the expression "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer"?
@gricer1326 Ever heard the expression "Methinks thou dost protest too loudly", LOL! Israel is the closest thing to a democracy in the Middle East so we support them. They are not denying Gaza aid, stop your lying. The jets haven't even been built yet so no, they technically don't work. As for the videos, stop watching them if you find them objectionable, you'll do less crying that way.
@thisismedgr Aha, but the ones that have been built that operate in other countries' fleets are apparently about as reliable as Toronto's Scarborough RT in the snow. Been following the news lately? Don't you know Israel has been a total bitch to Gaza? They don't even want to negotiate a deal to give Gaza back some of their old land even though the US is pressuring them to do so! I have stopped watching the neoCON videos, they have no credibility and I can't criticize them, so there's no point.
@gricer1326 Don't like some videos? Who cares, don't watch them. Don't like the new jets? Still don't care. Mad at Israel? Ibid. Let both parties negotiate in good faith, it's a two way street and I'm willing to bet you never cared about the USA's opinion on anything until now. Anyway, it's getting boring watching you pick the same scabs and I have a life. You've got nothing and we're done here. Cheers.
@thisismedgr It's not that I don't like them. I disagree with them and I think I have a right to voice my concerns with the ruling party's actions, but they're not giving me or anyone a chance to do that. There's a difference between not caring about someone's opinion and not caring about facts you turn a blind eye to because Emperor Harper told you do.
@thisismedgr "If your vaunted Count Ignatieff doesn't win he has a cozy coalition agreement to fall back on to steal the PMO away from a legal vote "
All these Liberals are mad because Stephen Harper won the election twice, And i bet half the stuff in these videos are lies. And yet every one believes them..why cant we all get along?
@MileySelenaHannnafan No, the liberals (and most of Canada) are mad because Stephen Harper is irresponsible, immoral, cowardly, dishonest and hypocritical among other things. I and several others have mentioned many of a long list of things he has done wrong. The only points I hear to counter basic observation are the sponsorship scandal (ancient history), reckless coalitions (nonexistent) and fiscal irresponsibility (untrue). The nerve of you people.
@gricer1326 Ok you have some points, but im not saying that im voting for Harper or Ignatieff. But i think you are being harsh with the insults of Stephen Harper. Personally i dont think its very fair we are having an election again, when we just had one last year. Just my thought.
@MileySelenaHannnafan How is telling the truth about harper, voicing the extreme hypocrisy associated with calling the liberals liars and defending Harper harsh? I think it's time to be harsh! Canadians have been far too tolerant of his bullheadedness for far too long.
The election was not last year, it was 3 years ago. February 2008.
@MileySelenaHannnafan No, no, you either have to be stupid or blind to think that. Whatever smidgen of good he has done is FAR outweighed by lies, deceit, irresponsibility, cowardice. This is NOT the guy who's going to help us, but if that's what you want, be my guest.
Did you see the conservitive verison of this? Comments disabled, ratings disabled. Hardly suprising, shows how much the conservitives value free speach.
Conservatives (Brian Mulroney, Kim Campbell): $42 billion deficit. Result: 1993 Election. The Liberals, led by Jean Chrétien, won a strong majority in the House and formed the next government of Canada. Conservatives suffered the most lopsided defeat for a governing party at the federal level and managed to hold only 2 seats in the parliament.
Liberals (Jean Chrétien, Paul Martin): $12 billion surplus.
@thatboytrent Actually this is a spinoff of a CONservative attack ad criticizing Ignatieff for running attack ads. The hypocrisy of the political right is unbelievable.
...no irony in running an attack ad with the premise of "look! he's running attack ads!" canadian politics should be better than the garbage we've been seeing. lets here some actual arguments for once, please
Well you described in a post made three years ago saying "asdfvcxas is the most badass conservative I will ever debate in the future..." very conclusive indeed
@gricer1326 Why would a roght swingger be more apt to he rworng? I cannot beliebe athat a in the satte a of fthe worlda that liberlaism provideas an answe rto toout deb t fcirts, We ahve to abandosn this belief hatt ideolagioty saves us. Wgahat aour duty to do as citizens is to eleetct people to repressenet us, and provide a vision hat w ould alllowo for us ro grow. The just socuety is a univerals liberal promisue that can be maintained today, why abandon it?> We cannnot abe left behind! byaah!\
@gricer1326 Nuuh hauh I'm sipurer consercaitve as of now. My knowleedge is cooll as hhell. Libveraslism bad@ Consevrtuaisms is qyite goodf in answering Canadaaind edonomiy. what ois your areply? wht dont you embracer ocnsobevrtism?
@asdfvcxas wht dont I embracer ocnsobevrtism? I'll tell you wht I dont embracer ocnsobevrtism. When you sober up, and see how STOOPID you sound right now.
@gricer1326 damn your annd your liberaksatl logic! I ndees to sleep an d junjk.Why cant conservatives na dliberals be frineds. HHJAHPRers ruining this ocuntry with his partishan shiittt1! i WANYt Canada to actuallu be united! THIS masisn is acgianst unitattty! I want freeeedoama from him>! donw with HAREPR\! fuck HI!M Dwon withhha hius big brither mentaluty of controlling canadian, we are thhe land of the rfree, and we shoall be free fukc the system!
We need to get you an IV drip, except full of beer. You'll sound like you're mentally challenged most of the time but at least you'll make some sense.
@gonavygonavy Guess what? I am of age, and I can vote. It's hard to believe that ignorant people people like you can actually be arrogant enough to type up responses that exemplify non sensical idiocy. Guess what, for a person who wants decency in writing- on an online video site- it would be nice of you too to practice it. LOL
@gricer1326 You learn how to debate! I've been ownin you with for the past month! I've literally privatized you from the rest of Canadian society! Soon you shall become more efficient for conservative causes, despite what liberals will try to say that you somehow became less accessible, less valuable, and unlogical. HA!
@asdfvcxas Debating is not saying "I win because I said so". Debating is making a point and supporting your argument. Nobody listens to "conservative logic" (especially me) because those words don't belong together.
@gricer1326 Debating is about winning and I won! That's my proof, my proof is that I won and it is a shame that you can't see my proof is best above your proof which seems to be unproven, while my proof is based on proof that is true because it is a proof that has been proven. PWND!
@asdfvcxas I find it difficult to understand your logic, mostly because there is none. As said, by making the point you are making, you are also making the point that you cannot possibly defeat my point, because you cannot provide a point or support for a point which could shake a stick at my point.
@asdfvcxas More sharper "HP" pencils. How intelligently put. What really doesn't matter is whether your points are "more sharper", it matters whether your points exist and are valid. From what you've said so far, I can infer that you do not have a point or have one that is much weaker than mine.
@asdfvcxas You take for face value an ineffectual sound bite from a man who has consistently lied to you? C'mon, man, you can't possibly be this naïve!
@gricer1326 Stephen Harper has not lied to us!He's the most psychic PM we have had since the Chief. He knew that Iggy, Jack, and Gilles were up to a left wing conspiracy against the only right wing party, it's only logical that if he loses that they would form a coalition. It's our obligation as Canadians to vote for stability and sovereignty by voting conservative! By voting conservative, we will initiate the new anarcho-capitalist society, to free us and to free the market, making Canada Free!
@asdfvcxas "He knew that Iggy, Jack, and Gilles were up to a left wing conspiracy" No they weren't! Each party has explicitly stated that they have absolutely no intention of forming a coalition. It's our obligation as canadians to vote for the preservation of democracy, against deceit, contempt, abuse, dishonesty. It's our obligation as canadians to elect a leader that will not arrest 1100 people and only press charges against 99 of them.
@asdfvcxas It's our obligation as canadians to elect a leader that won't steal elections. It's our obligation as canadians to elect a leader who won't bankrupt the country, who won't cut corporate taxes and raise the taxes of the citizens, who won't withdraw aid from countries in need, who won't attempt to steal a ballot box and invalidate 700 perfectly legit ballots! It's our obligation to DISPOSE of Harper and his lies and cover-ups, his cowardly actions, to the benefit of all. Rise up!
@gricer1326 My Friend, what the conservative party offers is stability, what the Liberals offers is a coalition that is most likely to cause an global economic collapse, democratic sharia law based uprisings in the middle east, and HIGHER TAXES! NO! I HATE HIGH TAXES! When I sit in my house I do not want to pay for a couch tax, or an IPOD tax, or a cat tax, or even a lasagna tax. You and your free loading Liberal party can stay away from my LASAGNA!
@asdfvcxas First of all, THERE IS NO COALITION. Secondly, what we had with the Chretien/Martin Liberals was a $12 billion surplus, what we have with Harper's CONS is a $56 billion deficit. I'm starting to think that what we need is an Egypt-type uprising, to show Stevie it's not OK to steal a ballot box, and it's not OK to unlawfully imprison 1100 people, it's to OK to lie to the people who have higher expectations of you! Lasagna tax. Go get drunk.
@gricer1326 It's our obligation as Canadians to also protect the ice up in the arctic, you do not hear Iggy make any mention of that! That Ice is our Sovereignty, we need expensive non Winter friendly jets to protect it! The Russians tried to claim some time ago, with a flag! That flag was then invalidated because of some technicality! but had they suceeded, we would have been quite dissappointed! We as Canadians cannot be dissappointed!
@gricer1326 No, only on the weekends bub. If I did in during the week, it would make it seem that I have a drinking problem, it seems that gricer boy is losing steam, resorting to insults and five word replies. It seems that I am, as Charlie Sheen says "Winning! "
@asdfvcxas You should really learn what defines a majority. 155 seats. You're 7 shy! Meanwhile, the NDP (my people) are running away with the vote, now leading in 3 more ridings since i last checked!
@gricer1326 lol, too durnk to repsond. I shall post godl in the morning to compsenstate for this lacklysrery aseweomness! prsiade aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHArpper!
@mikefastener, too bad for you that reality doesn't support you. Harper is a laughing stock on the world stage, and the Economic Action Plan did nothing but dig foundations and post signs.
@mrhogie10 Excuse me? The Harperites took a surplus and spent it on self-absorbed ads, and planes that don't work, and on top of that have set a new low for corruption and abuse of Parliament... and you're calling LIBERALS stupid?
@mikefastener A stimulus package envied by the world, except it didn't exist and the signs for it were made in the US. What's the thinking on that one?
♥♥♥ We are working hard to get the word out to Canadians about our Crime Minister / Prime Spender Stealin' Harper. ♥♥♥ Google this discussion group of 6,000+ Canadians: (CRUSH) Canadians Rallying to Unseat Steve Harper ♥♥♥ Also we run a website called: unseatHarper dot ca ♥ We talk, share newstories and help each other understand the lies told to us by Harper and his unelected backroom goons, the billionaire owned mass media, and fake polls. ♥♥♥ Steve HarperCon: Government of One ♥
@007nadineL To all.....Canadians must be reminded they came to the cliff edge in having Separatists virtually govern the country. With Iggy's well know lust for power (his American trait) he would give anything to get that Separatist-Socialist Coalition again. Separatist Senators? Finance Minister Bob Rae anyone?
Here is how I care more about Canada that that ideologically driven nadine...I recommend vote for Mr. Harper or Mr. Layton to stop that American, Iffy in his tracks!
@cjarcus carcus! Going to run away again when I out debate you? (Remember how testy you became last time as my arguments destroyed you and you disappeared?)
Oh well, as they always say, "the worst enemy of a liberal supporter, a fair Canadian with a good memory".
@cjarcus Poor cactus! Anytime he is out debated (which is everytime) he claims success (yet he goes away and sulks for a few weeks). Oh well, you are starting to get a thicker skin.
@mikefastener It's easy to claim success when you have facts on your side.. Something you've never had.. Mike Fastener the sucker... ok, I await your response sucker
@mikefastener And you say you are good at debating with comments like this? As I remember, cjarcus whooped your ass last time you two had an argument (hardly an argument since cjarcus actually has a point and you seem to have only 2nd-grade insults to counter a valid point. Tsk tsk).
@mikefastener lol, I love this Mike guy, his arguments never change... you believe what you want mikey the sucker, the rest of us will live in reality..
The entire entire budget for that Federation-wide promotion of a unifiied Canadian identitiy was $300 million. After an extensive enquiry (called by the Liberals) it was determined some $15 million was pilfered by ad companies with links to more than one province. Since the Liberal's Gomery commission litigation has recouped nearly half of this money.
The relative scale of the Harpercrits' corrutions and abuses is like Mount Everest is to a rock on the beach.
@007nadineL The culture of entitlement (as determined by liberal appointed Judge Gomery) was disgusting to all Canadians! Liberal corruption is well known and feared by most Canadians.
Interesting that you said the scale of the so-called Mr. Harper's issues exceed the lie-berals....wonder why no judicial inquiry into Mr. Harper's gov't? Oh well--maybe you will answer that one?
(Or run away, as usual when confronted with facts.)
♥♥♥ We are working hard to get the word out to Canadians about our Crime Minister / Prime Spender Stealin' Harper. ♥♥♥ Google this discussion group of 6,000+ Canadians: (CRUSH) Canadians Rallying to Unseat Steve Harper ♥♥♥ Also we run a website called: unseatHarper dot ca ♥ We talk, share newstories and help each other understand the lies told to us by Harper and his unelected backroom goons, the billionaire owned mass media, and fake polls. ♥♥♥ Steve HarperCon: Government of One ♥♥♥
@mikefastener really, liberals? conservatives have been involved in so many scandals i doubt the CBC could count them all. lets just go with what i remember recently; to attain this minority government they have violated the campaign financing rules by moving $1.3 million in and out of 67 local ridings to pay for national ads and with this minority government completely abandoned international AIDS vaccine project.
@davetd7 While I know the Communist Broadcasting Company had problems counting lie-beral scandals, I agree with you--they will certainly find Conservative scandals--both where they do and don't exist.
How is that lie-beral repayment of $40million they stole from Canadians in the lie-beral corruption scandal?
@mikefastener The real facts of Ad-Scam Harper doesn’t want you to know
The testimony that triggered the 2005 opposition siege of Martin’s minority government did not involve the Liberal leader or his ministers directly.
It surfaced as the result of an inquiry set in motion by the prime minister himself and only a few months before its definitive conclusions were scheduled to be delivered to the public.
@007nadineL I agree completely!!! We all owe Mr. Martin when he decided to expose the disgusting corruption in his own party by calling an inquiry (chaired by Justic Gomery BTW). Call you image a sitting PM knowing the corruption in his own party was so wide-spread that he felt he could not solve it himself? Nothing has changed since with the lie-beral party and we must (for Canada's sake) make sure they never get in power again.
@mikefastener - I suggest you pick up a newspaper and read how the Harper's government has been charged with stealing the 2006 election via the old in-out scheme. It's very interesting reading... if you read that is.
@007nadineL Actually, I enjoy reading the newspapers of how Canadians are solidly behind Mr. Harper against the jackals of Iffy, Layton and that Separatist guy. Poll after poll says that Canadians do not want another Separatist-Socialist Coalition.
@gricer1326 grocer, I'm ending the debate with you. You failed on Mr. Ford's popularity, you failed on the Housing gravy train and you don't even know the name of the leader of the provincial NDP!!
Post back when that vogue guy has 72% support as Mr. Ford does.
@mikefastener Oh I've failed have I? Lol, you're the biggest failure here. You voted for Ford, support both Tim Hudak and Dictator Harper and your debating skills are weak enough to make FRod himself cringe. Not to mention your immaturity (calling people names, being stuck-up and selfish, nitpicking, and obsessing over a couple of simple mistakes). Really I'm the one who should be blocking you out at this point but i can see you're too much of a weak hypocrite to continue. Suit yourself, coward.
@mikefastener OTTAWA — The new governor general David Johnston, appointed by Harper, says he sees nothing wrong or illegitimate with coalition governments — something Prime Minister Steve Harper has attacked for being “undemocratic.”
@007nadineL Interesting comment about the GG; however, there is something you left-wingers never seem to understand....the PEOPLE decide, not you or your trotted out deemed (by you) experts!
This (I'm sure) has given you something to think about.
@mikefastener - But you're okay with Harper crawling to M Jean as GG begging to prorogue parliament twice? How was that the will of the people. Over 33,000 people marched against proroguement Jan. 23, 2010 across Canada and internationally.
@mikefastener your nomenclature for liberals just made it so if people did google it they would be seeing your conservative attack ads, which i'm sure out number the oppositions' or they would search the correct party name and not see your post. thanks for coming out
HEY MALFOY2, YOU CHICKENSHIT. Harper's not creating jobs for women & I do have a job, you male bitch. When I didn't have a job, you dirty Tories used me & my kids as political scapegoats. Tory thugs. You starved us, you made it ILLEGAL for mom's on welfare to go to college or university.You cut funding to women's organizations, sent CBSA agents into women's shelters, you cut funding for medical clinics that save women's lives in Africa. Politics is personal, yuppie. TORIES ARE BULLIES & THUGS.
@mightymissk take it up with the provincial government. They are different institutions. You blame Harper, who was elected in 06, for what Ontario's government did in the 90's. Dont insult me for disagreeing with you. If you dont like free speech move to Yeman or Burma.
@malfoy2 Be it the provincial government under Harris or the federal government under Harper, neo conservatism is the same ideology & either way, it is bad news for ordinary people. They are merely different levels of the same kind of vicious, evil regimes. Bad for working people. Bad for women. Bad for the economy. They will privatize our resources, as Harris did & leave us deeply in debt, as Harper is doing. And NOWHERE have I suggested you don't have the right to free speech. You're a liar.
@mightymissk Bad for working people? How about Rae Days when there were no jobs for working people. We had that in BC with the NDP too. Canada now has the lowest debt and deficit in the G8 and the lowest unemployment. Paul Martin is credited for a little bit but that was because the Reform Party pushed for us to balance the budget. The deficit we do have was forced by the coalition which they now criticize us for having. Harper has been good with the economy and with finances considering.
@malfoy2 The Rae Days saved 30,000 good public service jobs. People lost one week's work a year. Canada HAD the lowest debt due to Liberal management. Now lying Tories take the credit. The deficit we have now was not "forced." Harper spent 2 BILLION ALONE IN ONE WEEKEND AT THE G20. He spends our money on government ADS & on jets no other country wants & on prisons for pot smokers. Never on anything useful, like, say clean water on reserves. He is deliberately emasculating Canada. TORIES LIE.
@mightymissk I will admit that Rae has been more honorable and respectful then Iggy. I would prefer him if I was a coalition voter. But to correct you again the jail time for pot only would apply for Grow-ops. Harper also raised the age of consent, gave mandatory still jail time for repeat violent and sexual offenders and stopped people from getting that stupid 2 for 1 credit leaving little jail time after a sentence is given. G20 money is the cost of being international community.
@malfoy2 Harper is hiring 4,000 prison guards & BORROWING BILLIONS to put people who grow pot in jail FOR YEARS OF THEIR LIVES & WE GET TO PAY FOR IT. Mandatory minimum sentences are barbaric, they are a direct attack on judicial independence and NO OTHER G20 COUNTRY spent 2 BILLION IN ONE WEEKEND. Harper set cops on kids singing the national anthem. He's good at spending our health care money on riot gear & fake lakes. And why do you bother to respond to this poor Mom, Tory? You have nothing.
@mikefastener And why are you now discriminating against Americans? Besides, Iggy isn't an American, he couldn't find work here so he went to the US. That's what always happens (and vice versa in this case). If a guy can't find work in his country he finds work in another.
@mightymissk Actually you respond to my post first. Just to put the record straight. "Poor mom. Everyone feel sorry for me! I wasnt careful and got knocked up but someone who wasnt man enough to support me like he should have and now everyone feel sorry for me. Mer Mer Mer!"
Maybe you missed the riot that set police cars on fire and smashed sores just for the sake of opportunity. What did they prove? Nothing! And if you dont want violent people in jail we should send them to your neighborhood.
@malfoy2 The only thing you know about me is that I'm a Mom who used to be on welfare & who knows Harper's Tories are my deadly enemies. And I'm a better debater than you. Tories hate poor people & your snarling remarks about me getting "knocked up" prove my point. I live in downtown Toronto & my neighbors witnessed cops harass & beat ordinary citizens & THEY DELIBERATELY ALLOWED THE BLACK BLOC, HALF OF WHOM WERE RCMP OR CSIS--TO SMASH STORE FRONTS. I can take you in any argument woman-hater.
@mightymissk Uhhhhhh...unmightymiss....you seem to be confused. You complain about the solid leadership of Mr. Harper and then add a comment about the Toronto police. The Toronto police are a city issue that falls under that left-winger boy, Miller. (The one Toronto threw into the garbage can for the anti-gravy train, Mr. Ford.)
Oh well, logic seldom works with left-wingers. What to get a left-winger angry? Just shower them with facts!
@mikefastener What part of I am not interested in talking to you, do you not understand? I don't even know which post you are referring to. I have made no particular comments about Toronto police. But for the record: Mayor Miller did not send 19,000 police officers here to beat up over a 1000 peaceful protesters & Miller did not suspend freedom of assembly--a right my father fought for in WWII--your Mr Harper did that. And you are simply not a good debater. Run along & polish your jackboots.
@mightymissk I can easily and honestly call you a "liar".
Dalton McLier suspended any laws you are referring to.
Anyone on this site can easily check the facts and confirm that you are a liar.
You are probably a lie-beral plant desperately trying to improve that American, Iffy's chances in the next federal election. It won't work! After the lie-beral corruption scandal, we know your tricks.
Won't work this time.
BTW my father fought in WWII for truth-try it for both our parent’s memory!
@mikefastener You call me a liar? McGuinty did indeed use the 1939 Public Works Protection Act at the G20. When I said HARPER SUSPENDED FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY AT THE G20 I was referring to his hiring an army of police roughly the size of 3 Roman legions to come here and beat up kids with nose piercings, singing the national anthem. McGuinty enacted this folly AT THE BEHEST OF THE POLICE. But at the heart of it IS HARPER, WHO REFUSED ALL ADVICE NOT TO HOLD THE G20 IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE. You asshole.
@mightymissk Your father who served in WW2 would be ashamed of you!
Mr. Harper bought the G20 to Toronto without realizing the weirdo suspension of rights by Dalton McLier.
(How many times has Dalton jumped around on this issue trying to avoid the fact of his endorsement of draconian measures against some poor protestors? Why does McLier refuse a provincial inquiry to clear the air? Questions you are afraid to answer?)
Your (and my) father fought for truth. Start practicing it!!!!
@mikefastener SO YOUR MR HARPER DID NOT REALIZE THAT THE PRESENCE OF 19,000 COPS IN DOWNTOWN TORONTO MIGHT RESULT IN MASSIVE CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS? He's that stupid is he? Or just shy & sweetly naive? AND MY FATHER, who fought fascism--the ideology you subscribe to in its latest form under Harper--WOULD BE PROUD OF ME FOR FIGHTING THE LIKES OF YOU. It's your Dad who must shudder. I've told you repeatedly, you aren't worth a good debate. Stop sending your poisonous little rants to my inbox.
@mightymissk oh poor unmighty! So you are saying that Dalton McLier and that socialist weirdo (yes, I know, redundant) Miller boy screwed up on the protection of Toronto against the thugs? Mr. Harper was busy giving advice to world leaders about his success and steady hand on the Canadian economy (Mr. Harper is an economist, you know). Looks like your lies keep coming out and your father would certainly be ashamed.
Great win for Harper. Harper, just staying!
malfoydude 9 months ago 2
96/9 for NDP
gricer1326 9 months ago
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Harper Government? Harper's Canada?
Folks, this nonsense must be stopped.
Let's not let this continue!
Anyone but Harper!
TheGreenLense 9 months ago
go NDP!!!
curiousvee 9 months ago
I wish they would put more money into helping Japan but they would rather use the money we pay taxes for on a friggin election
furnando72 9 months ago
@furnando72 <------Hypocrite
A lot of Canadians would love to have seen the amount of aid going to Africa increased, but no, no, Emperor Harper cut it off altogether because he's too greedy, like you CONs give a fuck about people in need.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 It wasn't harper who called the election was it? It was a waste of a lot of money, NDP? They cant even look after our country. Saskatchewan would never come close to voting for them. IMO I think harper is running the country fine.
furnando72 8 months ago
@furnando72 Think man, think! The election was called as a direct result of Harper's extremely unsatisfactory (what am I saying? UNDERSTATEMENT) behaviour. So I think we all know who's really responsible.
gricer1326 8 months ago
Don't worry, Liberal whiners: If your vaunted Count Ignatieff doesn't win he has a cozy coalition agreement to fall back on to steal the PMO away from a legal vote like the Coalition of Losers tried to do in 2008.
thisismedgr 9 months ago
@thisismedgr First of all, the coalition doesn't exist. Second of all, coalitions are perfectly legal and legit. Thirdly, your vaunted Dictator Harper was prepared to join a coalition against the Liberals before he got into office.
The reason we are throwing Harper out of office is because he has lost the moral right to govern this country. Martin was thrown out for a lot less than this.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 It exists on paper until June 30 2011. Never said coalitions were illegal, we just all know this one was immoral and nothing to do with democracy. Where is the paperwork to prove Harper wanted a coalition? Oh yes, there is none, not like the declaration your heroes signed behind closed doors. PS: The CPC won and Martin was thrown out for as mush or more. I'll toast with my beer, you cry in yours.
thisismedgr 9 months ago
@thisismedgr No, you're right, it had more to do with the fact that the current leader was abusing democracy and that he needed to be ousted immediately. Harper publicly announced that he was willing to form and lead a coalition agaisnt Paul Martin, who was thrown out of office for way less than what Harper has inflicted so far.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Martin played shell games with taxpayer money to create the illusion of a balanced budget, but made tax loopholes for himself. A ruling from the Supreme Court of Canada declared the LPC handling of EI funds was unconstitutional. As for Harper, when did he "publicly" make that announcement? All Duceppe ever had as prrof was a public letter to the GG, signed by Harper, Layton, and Duceppe, asking the GG "consider all options" in the face of a non-confidence motion. Nice try.
thisismedgr 8 months ago
@thisismedgr Gee, Harper really seems like a good guy.....until you factor in his abuse of democracy, proroguing (illegally) to avoid a non-confidence motion, censoring the media, lying to the public, altering signed documents, possibly cheating in an election, breaking campaign spending rules, arresting and jailing 1100 innocent people without reasonable cause, refusing to provide info on Afghan torture (which he could have possibly given approval for), been found in contempt of parliament,
gricer1326 8 months ago
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gricer1326 8 months ago
@thisismedgr (cont'd) been denied, for the first time ever, a UN security council seat, spent ridiculous amounts of money on ridiculous things (fighter jets, anyone? They work about about as well as Windows and cost a crapload of money!), given tax breaks to huge corporations instead of smaller, more local businesses, talked about an "economic action plan" which as far as I can discern, DOESN'T EXIST save for the signs, made Canada an international laughing-stock, threatened the opposition,
gricer1326 8 months ago
@thisismedgr (cont'd) cut off funding for countries in need, created bill C-10, is running the country billions into the red......I mean, this is a guy with a proven track record for bad news, and you VOTED FOR HIM? Really?
I sincerely hope we're not all fucked because of people like you.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@thisismedgr They don't even let people comment or rate their YouTube videos. How could you possibly get more cowardly?
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 "Cowardly"? I can't even view this propaganda video anymore because suddenly it's "Private"! The Security Seat? We support Israel, that's why we lost it. Fighter jets? Ours are old and falling apart, who needs new ones, right? We all got tax breaks from the CPC so 1% for corporations doesn't bother me, get over your money envy. CPC MPs didn't run amok calling Americans "Bastards" and telling them to go to hell, speaking of laughing stock. Aside from whining, you got nothing.
thisismedgr 8 months ago
@thisismedgr There's no comparison here! This video was created by a some guy who's fed up with Harper, and it's ONE VIDEO. All of the neoCON videos: comments disabled, ratings disabled, embedding disabled, for ALL OF THEIR VIDEOS. Every single one. With the liberals and NDP that doesn't happen. All of their videos are open to criticism and they are to be commended for that.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@thisismedgr Why exactly are we supporting Isreal? They're being complete assholes, denying Gaza aid, boarding ships bringing aid to Gaza and shooting the crew, stopping trucks, you name it, they've probably done it. These new fighter jets, they DON'T FUCKING WORK. They're less reliable than the ones we have now, even the country that makes them doesn't use them (hence "they work about as well as WINDOWS")!
gricer1326 8 months ago
@thisismedgr Corporations are dangerous animals if you keep them on too long a leash. They'll basically bulldoze anything that happens to stand in their way in so their CEOs can make ridiculous amounts of money. Ever heard the expression "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer"?
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Ever heard the expression "Methinks thou dost protest too loudly", LOL! Israel is the closest thing to a democracy in the Middle East so we support them. They are not denying Gaza aid, stop your lying. The jets haven't even been built yet so no, they technically don't work. As for the videos, stop watching them if you find them objectionable, you'll do less crying that way.
thisismedgr 8 months ago
@thisismedgr Aha, but the ones that have been built that operate in other countries' fleets are apparently about as reliable as Toronto's Scarborough RT in the snow. Been following the news lately? Don't you know Israel has been a total bitch to Gaza? They don't even want to negotiate a deal to give Gaza back some of their old land even though the US is pressuring them to do so! I have stopped watching the neoCON videos, they have no credibility and I can't criticize them, so there's no point.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Don't like some videos? Who cares, don't watch them. Don't like the new jets? Still don't care. Mad at Israel? Ibid. Let both parties negotiate in good faith, it's a two way street and I'm willing to bet you never cared about the USA's opinion on anything until now. Anyway, it's getting boring watching you pick the same scabs and I have a life. You've got nothing and we're done here. Cheers.
thisismedgr 8 months ago
@thisismedgr It's not that I don't like them. I disagree with them and I think I have a right to voice my concerns with the ruling party's actions, but they're not giving me or anyone a chance to do that. There's a difference between not caring about someone's opinion and not caring about facts you turn a blind eye to because Emperor Harper told you do.
gricer1326 8 months ago
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@thisismedgr "If your vaunted Count Ignatieff doesn't win he has a cozy coalition agreement to fall back on to steal the PMO away from a legal vote "
HELLO!!!!!!!!!!
gricer1326 8 months ago
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gricer1326 9 months ago
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Lets give Jack & Elizabeth May at the very least, more
seats. Ottawa needs an ENEMA ! People need to start
getting off their fat asses & pay less attention to media &
more on what the politicians are actually doing with our
money. Educate yourself on truth about energy, why cars
only get 30 miles/gallon after so many decades !. The
truth about drugs & healthcare system. Look up "THE
BECK PROTOCOL", the "PAAP engine" and CHEMTRAILS !
wake up everyone !
vid009 9 months ago
All these Liberals are mad because Stephen Harper won the election twice, And i bet half the stuff in these videos are lies. And yet every one believes them..why cant we all get along?
MileySelenaHannnafan 9 months ago
@MileySelenaHannnafan
Don't bet that half the things in this video are lies.... find out!!!
.... cause they aren't lies. A very minimal effort at verifying facts online will demonstrate this.
And at least the Liberals allow anyone to comment on their videos, whether they criticize or not, or even post patent foolishnes.
Llyranon 9 months ago
@MileySelenaHannnafan No, the liberals (and most of Canada) are mad because Stephen Harper is irresponsible, immoral, cowardly, dishonest and hypocritical among other things. I and several others have mentioned many of a long list of things he has done wrong. The only points I hear to counter basic observation are the sponsorship scandal (ancient history), reckless coalitions (nonexistent) and fiscal irresponsibility (untrue). The nerve of you people.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 Ok you have some points, but im not saying that im voting for Harper or Ignatieff. But i think you are being harsh with the insults of Stephen Harper. Personally i dont think its very fair we are having an election again, when we just had one last year. Just my thought.
MileySelenaHannnafan 9 months ago
@MileySelenaHannnafan How is telling the truth about harper, voicing the extreme hypocrisy associated with calling the liberals liars and defending Harper harsh? I think it's time to be harsh! Canadians have been far too tolerant of his bullheadedness for far too long.
The election was not last year, it was 3 years ago. February 2008.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 Canada just showed that they want Stephen Harper as a leader, so really there is more (good things) about harper than you think.
MileySelenaHannnafan 9 months ago
@MileySelenaHannnafan No, no, you either have to be stupid or blind to think that. Whatever smidgen of good he has done is FAR outweighed by lies, deceit, irresponsibility, cowardice. This is NOT the guy who's going to help us, but if that's what you want, be my guest.
gricer1326 8 months ago
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gricer1326 9 months ago
Did you see the conservitive verison of this? Comments disabled, ratings disabled. Hardly suprising, shows how much the conservitives value free speach.
Brained05 9 months ago 2
Love how asdfvcxas's drunken rant gets into highest rated, not surprising, really! It makes sense.
gricer1326 9 months ago
Conservatives (Brian Mulroney, Kim Campbell): $42 billion deficit. Result: 1993 Election. The Liberals, led by Jean Chrétien, won a strong majority in the House and formed the next government of Canada. Conservatives suffered the most lopsided defeat for a governing party at the federal level and managed to hold only 2 seats in the parliament.
Liberals (Jean Chrétien, Paul Martin): $12 billion surplus.
Conservatives (Steven Harper): $56 billion deficit and rising. Result: 2011 Election.
master9829 10 months ago 15
See what I mean, folks? This guy's a comedian!
gricer1326 10 months ago
funny how an attack ad criticized the conservatives for having an attack ad. my gosh. PLEASE NO IGNATIEF
thatboytrent 10 months ago
@thatboytrent Actually this is a spinoff of a CONservative attack ad criticizing Ignatieff for running attack ads. The hypocrisy of the political right is unbelievable.
gricer1326 10 months ago
...no irony in running an attack ad with the premise of "look! he's running attack ads!" canadian politics should be better than the garbage we've been seeing. lets here some actual arguments for once, please
Jakeb575 10 months ago
@Jakeb575 Unfortunately that's too much to ask of Harper and his CONS.
gricer1326 10 months ago
In 2005, Stephen Harper said, “You won’t recognize Canada when I get through with it.”
On May 2, 2011, let’s stand together as Canadians and show Harper that we’re through with him.
Enough is enough.
MegaCanadianA 10 months ago 2
Well you described in a post made three years ago saying "asdfvcxas is the most badass conservative I will ever debate in the future..." very conclusive indeed
asdfvcxas 10 months ago
@asdfvcxas Everyone, I want you to go to my channel page and look at the date I joined.
I know, it says Sept. 29, 2010. Today's date is March 28, 2011. Hmmmm. Very interesting indeed.
Ever heard of the phrase "jumping the shark"?
gricer1326 10 months ago
@asdfvcxas Also, i'm not clairvoyant.
gricer1326 10 months ago
@gricer1326 riiiiggghhhtt...
asdfvcxas 10 months ago
@asdfvcxas See for yourself.
youtube.com/user/gricer1326
gricer1326 10 months ago
@gricer1326 Damn you and your liberal logic! I win regardless...
asdfvcxas 10 months ago
@asdfvcxas LOL!!!!!! XD
Only a right-winger would lose twice in one post!
gricer1326 10 months ago
@gricer1326 Why would a roght swingger be more apt to he rworng? I cannot beliebe athat a in the satte a of fthe worlda that liberlaism provideas an answe rto toout deb t fcirts, We ahve to abandosn this belief hatt ideolagioty saves us. Wgahat aour duty to do as citizens is to eleetct people to repressenet us, and provide a vision hat w ould alllowo for us ro grow. The just socuety is a univerals liberal promisue that can be maintained today, why abandon it?> We cannnot abe left behind! byaah!\
asdfvcxas 10 months ago
@asdfvcxas Are you drunk? (It's 2:35 am right now.) You're completely incomprehensible.
gricer1326 10 months ago
@gricer1326 Nuuh hauh I'm sipurer consercaitve as of now. My knowleedge is cooll as hhell. Libveraslism bad@ Consevrtuaisms is qyite goodf in answering Canadaaind edonomiy. what ois your areply? wht dont you embracer ocnsobevrtism?
asdfvcxas 10 months ago
@asdfvcxas wht dont I embracer ocnsobevrtism? I'll tell you wht I dont embracer ocnsobevrtism. When you sober up, and see how STOOPID you sound right now.
gricer1326 10 months ago
@gricer1326 damn your annd your liberaksatl logic! I ndees to sleep an d junjk.Why cant conservatives na dliberals be frineds. HHJAHPRers ruining this ocuntry with his partishan shiittt1! i WANYt Canada to actuallu be united! THIS masisn is acgianst unitattty! I want freeeedoama from him>! donw with HAREPR\! fuck HI!M Dwon withhha hius big brither mentaluty of controlling canadian, we are thhe land of the rfree, and we shoall be free fukc the system!
asdfvcxas 10 months ago 16
@asdfvcxas I agree!
We need to get you an IV drip, except full of beer. You'll sound like you're mentally challenged most of the time but at least you'll make some sense.
gricer1326 10 months ago
@asdfvcxas Please learn how to spell semi-decently
You know what, never mind. Considering your comment I'm glad that you're not of age yet and cannot vote. I just hope you grow up smarter
gonavygonavy 9 months ago
@gonavygonavy Guess what? I am of age, and I can vote. It's hard to believe that ignorant people people like you can actually be arrogant enough to type up responses that exemplify non sensical idiocy. Guess what, for a person who wants decency in writing- on an online video site- it would be nice of you too to practice it. LOL
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas You may be of age, but you certainly don't act like you're of age.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 Nu uh! You don't act of age
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas That is the best comeback I have ever heard. u.u
Learn how to debate!!!
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 You learn how to debate! I've been ownin you with for the past month! I've literally privatized you from the rest of Canadian society! Soon you shall become more efficient for conservative causes, despite what liberals will try to say that you somehow became less accessible, less valuable, and unlogical. HA!
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas Debating is not saying "I win because I said so". Debating is making a point and supporting your argument. Nobody listens to "conservative logic" (especially me) because those words don't belong together.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 Debating is about winning and I won! That's my proof, my proof is that I won and it is a shame that you can't see my proof is best above your proof which seems to be unproven, while my proof is based on proof that is true because it is a proof that has been proven. PWND!
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas I find it difficult to understand your logic, mostly because there is none. As said, by making the point you are making, you are also making the point that you cannot possibly defeat my point, because you cannot provide a point or support for a point which could shake a stick at my point.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 Well is doesn't matter, my points are more sharper, they're like really sharp HP pencils, while your points are like crayons.
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas More sharper "HP" pencils. How intelligently put. What really doesn't matter is whether your points are "more sharper", it matters whether your points exist and are valid. From what you've said so far, I can infer that you do not have a point or have one that is much weaker than mine.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 Says who?
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas It's immediately obvious to everyone who is reading this thread. I'm just here to put you in your place.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 No you're not
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas Like I said, a valid point is always more credible than an imaginary one.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 What if the point is credible, until it is proven by Stephen Harper to be "simply not true?"
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas You take for face value an ineffectual sound bite from a man who has consistently lied to you? C'mon, man, you can't possibly be this naïve!
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 Stephen Harper has not lied to us!He's the most psychic PM we have had since the Chief. He knew that Iggy, Jack, and Gilles were up to a left wing conspiracy against the only right wing party, it's only logical that if he loses that they would form a coalition. It's our obligation as Canadians to vote for stability and sovereignty by voting conservative! By voting conservative, we will initiate the new anarcho-capitalist society, to free us and to free the market, making Canada Free!
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas "He knew that Iggy, Jack, and Gilles were up to a left wing conspiracy" No they weren't! Each party has explicitly stated that they have absolutely no intention of forming a coalition. It's our obligation as canadians to vote for the preservation of democracy, against deceit, contempt, abuse, dishonesty. It's our obligation as canadians to elect a leader that will not arrest 1100 people and only press charges against 99 of them.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas It's our obligation as canadians to elect a leader that won't steal elections. It's our obligation as canadians to elect a leader who won't bankrupt the country, who won't cut corporate taxes and raise the taxes of the citizens, who won't withdraw aid from countries in need, who won't attempt to steal a ballot box and invalidate 700 perfectly legit ballots! It's our obligation to DISPOSE of Harper and his lies and cover-ups, his cowardly actions, to the benefit of all. Rise up!
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 My Friend, what the conservative party offers is stability, what the Liberals offers is a coalition that is most likely to cause an global economic collapse, democratic sharia law based uprisings in the middle east, and HIGHER TAXES! NO! I HATE HIGH TAXES! When I sit in my house I do not want to pay for a couch tax, or an IPOD tax, or a cat tax, or even a lasagna tax. You and your free loading Liberal party can stay away from my LASAGNA!
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas First of all, THERE IS NO COALITION. Secondly, what we had with the Chretien/Martin Liberals was a $12 billion surplus, what we have with Harper's CONS is a $56 billion deficit. I'm starting to think that what we need is an Egypt-type uprising, to show Stevie it's not OK to steal a ballot box, and it's not OK to unlawfully imprison 1100 people, it's to OK to lie to the people who have higher expectations of you! Lasagna tax. Go get drunk.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 It's our obligation as Canadians to also protect the ice up in the arctic, you do not hear Iggy make any mention of that! That Ice is our Sovereignty, we need expensive non Winter friendly jets to protect it! The Russians tried to claim some time ago, with a flag! That flag was then invalidated because of some technicality! but had they suceeded, we would have been quite dissappointed! We as Canadians cannot be dissappointed!
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas You're a troll, aren't you?
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 Suprisingly, no. I am a concerned citizen who loves Canada too much to let liberals flush it down the toilet. Vote Conservative!
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas So the liberals would flush it down the toilet eh? Do you not realize that Harper has created a $56 billion (and counting) deficit?
gricer1326 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas Surprisingly indeed.
Go get drunk.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 No, only on the weekends bub. If I did in during the week, it would make it seem that I have a drinking problem, it seems that gricer boy is losing steam, resorting to insults and five word replies. It seems that I am, as Charlie Sheen says "Winning! "
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas I would say it's exasperation at your stupidity and blindness.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas $56 billion dollar deficit created by Harper.
Your thoughts?
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 LOLZ! Conservative Majoritied your ass!
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas You should really learn what defines a majority. 155 seats. You're 7 shy! Meanwhile, the NDP (my people) are running away with the vote, now leading in 3 more ridings since i last checked!
Consider yourself dissed.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas Yet another riding turned in favour of the NDP. w00t!!
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 166 seats for tories!
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas That's elected AND leading. The actual number of seats is 152.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@gricer1326 ho-ho, I shall pwn you after the full results are in then
asdfvcxas 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas We'll see about that.
gricer1326 9 months ago
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@asdfvcxas *sung to the tune of "london bridge is falling down*
asdfvcxas ran away
ran away
ran away
asdfvcxas ran away
My fair country
I guess we all know who the real winner is.
gricer1326 9 months ago
@asdfvcxas Time to get some English lessons.
52MattyB 9 months ago
@gricer1326 lol, too durnk to repsond. I shall post godl in the morning to compsenstate for this lacklysrery aseweomness! prsiade aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHArpper!
asdfvcxas 10 months ago
@asdfvcxas Listen, buddy, never post drunk, because this stuff will last forever and I will make fun of you for it. Go to bed.
gricer1326 10 months ago
@gricer1326 thanks osfor your hosipaltity dude! I shall pwn you lattter, I love love nad hatte hate.
asdfvcxas 10 months ago
@asdfvcxas lol, goodnight
gricer1326 10 months ago
Is this attack ad about attack ads? :P Grasping at straws much?
madturki 10 months ago
@mikefastener, too bad for you that reality doesn't support you. Harper is a laughing stock on the world stage, and the Economic Action Plan did nothing but dig foundations and post signs.
BoredomCorner 10 months ago
GO IGNATIEF! GO LIBERALS!
Patrickthenerd 10 months ago
@Patrickthenerd lol
malfoydude 9 months ago
Please tell me how someone can run attack ads AGAINST youtube. Stupid LIberals.
mrhogie10 10 months ago
@mrhogie10 Excuse me? The Harperites took a surplus and spent it on self-absorbed ads, and planes that don't work, and on top of that have set a new low for corruption and abuse of Parliament... and you're calling LIBERALS stupid?
BoredomCorner 10 months ago
@BoredomCorner Are you talking about a simulus package envied around the world?
A package that Iffy said wasn't large enough? (A tax and spend lie-beral by his own admission.)
Oh well, we need Mr. Harper to stop Iffy in his Separatist-Socialist Coalition he signed up to last time to undo the will of Canadians.
Please Mr. Harper, we need you more than ever to fight against this American, Iffy!
Hope I clarified for you.
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener A stimulus package envied by the world, except it didn't exist and the signs for it were made in the US. What's the thinking on that one?
gricer1326 10 months ago
This is pretty funny.
canuckleful 10 months ago
♥♥♥ We are working hard to get the word out to Canadians about our Crime Minister / Prime Spender Stealin' Harper. ♥♥♥ Google this discussion group of 6,000+ Canadians: (CRUSH) Canadians Rallying to Unseat Steve Harper ♥♥♥ Also we run a website called: unseatHarper dot ca ♥ We talk, share newstories and help each other understand the lies told to us by Harper and his unelected backroom goons, the billionaire owned mass media, and fake polls. ♥♥♥ Steve HarperCon: Government of One ♥
007nadineL 10 months ago
@007nadineL To all.....Canadians must be reminded they came to the cliff edge in having Separatists virtually govern the country. With Iggy's well know lust for power (his American trait) he would give anything to get that Separatist-Socialist Coalition again. Separatist Senators? Finance Minister Bob Rae anyone?
Here is how I care more about Canada that that ideologically driven nadine...I recommend vote for Mr. Harper or Mr. Layton to stop that American, Iffy in his tracks!
Ageed nadine?
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener you have a problem with Bob Rae too? he did more for Ontario than Mike Harris ever did.
davetd7 10 months ago
@davetd7 I believe I agree with you; but, to clarify....
"Bob Rae did a lot against Ontario, while, Mike Harris did a lot for Ontario."
This statement I agree with.
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener I see mikefastener is still around unable to muster up an intelligent argument... still just a sucker eh mikey?
cjarcus 10 months ago
@cjarcus carcus! Going to run away again when I out debate you? (Remember how testy you became last time as my arguments destroyed you and you disappeared?)
Oh well, as they always say, "the worst enemy of a liberal supporter, a fair Canadian with a good memory".
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener Usually debates require something other than talking points.. So good luck with that sucker..
cjarcus 10 months ago
@cjarcus Poor cactus! Anytime he is out debated (which is everytime) he claims success (yet he goes away and sulks for a few weeks). Oh well, you are starting to get a thicker skin.
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener It's easy to claim success when you have facts on your side.. Something you've never had.. Mike Fastener the sucker... ok, I await your response sucker
cjarcus 10 months ago
@cjarcus Let us agree that you will put down the bottle before your posts to me.
Seems fair, doesn't it?
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener And you say you are good at debating with comments like this? As I remember, cjarcus whooped your ass last time you two had an argument (hardly an argument since cjarcus actually has a point and you seem to have only 2nd-grade insults to counter a valid point. Tsk tsk).
gricer1326 10 months ago
@mikefastener Oh yea!
malfoydude 9 months ago
@malfoydude Looks like Iffy and the lie-berals gone what they deserved?
Who could argue?
mikefastener 9 months ago
@mikefastener lol, I love this Mike guy, his arguments never change... you believe what you want mikey the sucker, the rest of us will live in reality..
cjarcus 10 months ago
@cjarcus cactus....you will start living in reality, once you put down the bottle!
The rest of us like a little logic in our debates.
Good luck in that journey of yours.
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener actually, it's just entertaining to see you make a fool of yourself
cjarcus 10 months ago
@cjarcus I know, right?
gricer1326 10 months ago
The entire entire budget for that Federation-wide promotion of a unifiied Canadian identitiy was $300 million. After an extensive enquiry (called by the Liberals) it was determined some $15 million was pilfered by ad companies with links to more than one province. Since the Liberal's Gomery commission litigation has recouped nearly half of this money.
The relative scale of the Harpercrits' corrutions and abuses is like Mount Everest is to a rock on the beach.
007nadineL 10 months ago
@007nadineL The culture of entitlement (as determined by liberal appointed Judge Gomery) was disgusting to all Canadians! Liberal corruption is well known and feared by most Canadians.
Interesting that you said the scale of the so-called Mr. Harper's issues exceed the lie-berals....wonder why no judicial inquiry into Mr. Harper's gov't? Oh well--maybe you will answer that one?
(Or run away, as usual when confronted with facts.)
mikefastener 10 months ago
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007nadineL 10 months ago
@007nadineL I have Googled, "lie-berals", "corruption" "stealing" "Gomery inquiry into lie-beral corruption" and found very interesting sites.
I suggest everyone take a look.
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener really, liberals? conservatives have been involved in so many scandals i doubt the CBC could count them all. lets just go with what i remember recently; to attain this minority government they have violated the campaign financing rules by moving $1.3 million in and out of 67 local ridings to pay for national ads and with this minority government completely abandoned international AIDS vaccine project.
davetd7 10 months ago
@davetd7 While I know the Communist Broadcasting Company had problems counting lie-beral scandals, I agree with you--they will certainly find Conservative scandals--both where they do and don't exist.
How is that lie-beral repayment of $40million they stole from Canadians in the lie-beral corruption scandal?
(Next answer should be very interesting, folks.)
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener The real facts of Ad-Scam Harper doesn’t want you to know
The testimony that triggered the 2005 opposition siege of Martin’s minority government did not involve the Liberal leader or his ministers directly.
It surfaced as the result of an inquiry set in motion by the prime minister himself and only a few months before its definitive conclusions were scheduled to be delivered to the public.
The Toronto STar
007nadineL 10 months ago
@007nadineL I agree completely!!! We all owe Mr. Martin when he decided to expose the disgusting corruption in his own party by calling an inquiry (chaired by Justic Gomery BTW). Call you image a sitting PM knowing the corruption in his own party was so wide-spread that he felt he could not solve it himself? Nothing has changed since with the lie-beral party and we must (for Canada's sake) make sure they never get in power again.
We owe it to Mr. Martin!!!
Thanks for the opportunity!
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener - I suggest you pick up a newspaper and read how the Harper's government has been charged with stealing the 2006 election via the old in-out scheme. It's very interesting reading... if you read that is.
007nadineL 10 months ago
@007nadineL Actually, I enjoy reading the newspapers of how Canadians are solidly behind Mr. Harper against the jackals of Iffy, Layton and that Separatist guy. Poll after poll says that Canadians do not want another Separatist-Socialist Coalition.
Do you?
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener A lot of people would disagree.
gricer1326 10 months ago
@mikefastener Why don't you reply? Too cowardly?
gricer1326 10 months ago
@gricer1326 Did reply....put down the bottle and look.
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener Yeah you did.......7 hours ago. Any further of what little thoughts you have?
gricer1326 10 months ago
@gricer1326 "little thoughts" of mine that dwarf yours!
Clarifed again for you.
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener Well you certainly don't think critically, or think at all when writing and posting comments.
gricer1326 10 months ago
@gricer1326 grocer, I'm ending the debate with you. You failed on Mr. Ford's popularity, you failed on the Housing gravy train and you don't even know the name of the leader of the provincial NDP!!
Post back when that vogue guy has 72% support as Mr. Ford does.
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener Oh I've failed have I? Lol, you're the biggest failure here. You voted for Ford, support both Tim Hudak and Dictator Harper and your debating skills are weak enough to make FRod himself cringe. Not to mention your immaturity (calling people names, being stuck-up and selfish, nitpicking, and obsessing over a couple of simple mistakes). Really I'm the one who should be blocking you out at this point but i can see you're too much of a weak hypocrite to continue. Suit yourself, coward.
gricer1326 10 months ago
@mikefastener OTTAWA — The new governor general David Johnston, appointed by Harper, says he sees nothing wrong or illegitimate with coalition governments — something Prime Minister Steve Harper has attacked for being “undemocratic.”
December 27, 2010
Toronto Sun
007nadineL 10 months ago
@007nadineL Interesting comment about the GG; however, there is something you left-wingers never seem to understand....the PEOPLE decide, not you or your trotted out deemed (by you) experts!
This (I'm sure) has given you something to think about.
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener - But you're okay with Harper crawling to M Jean as GG begging to prorogue parliament twice? How was that the will of the people. Over 33,000 people marched against proroguement Jan. 23, 2010 across Canada and internationally.
007nadineL 10 months ago
@007nadineL Mr. Harper crawling to the GG begging to prorogue parliament twice?
Is that like Chretien begging for proroguing 4 or 5 times? (Once during the lie-beral corruption scandal coming out!)
I agree with you, Chretien is twice as shameful as Mr. Harper!!!
Let us see....33,000/25,000,000 = 0.132%--wow--a real revolution of Canadians!!!
(Probably left-wingers on the public purse! Most of them are.)
You're welcome for the clarification.
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener your nomenclature for liberals just made it so if people did google it they would be seeing your conservative attack ads, which i'm sure out number the oppositions' or they would search the correct party name and not see your post. thanks for coming out
davetd7 10 months ago
@davetd7 Glad I clarifed things for you!
mikefastener 10 months ago
HEY MALFOY2, YOU CHICKENSHIT. Harper's not creating jobs for women & I do have a job, you male bitch. When I didn't have a job, you dirty Tories used me & my kids as political scapegoats. Tory thugs. You starved us, you made it ILLEGAL for mom's on welfare to go to college or university.You cut funding to women's organizations, sent CBSA agents into women's shelters, you cut funding for medical clinics that save women's lives in Africa. Politics is personal, yuppie. TORIES ARE BULLIES & THUGS.
mightymissk 10 months ago
@mightymissk take it up with the provincial government. They are different institutions. You blame Harper, who was elected in 06, for what Ontario's government did in the 90's. Dont insult me for disagreeing with you. If you dont like free speech move to Yeman or Burma.
malfoy2 10 months ago
@malfoy2 Be it the provincial government under Harris or the federal government under Harper, neo conservatism is the same ideology & either way, it is bad news for ordinary people. They are merely different levels of the same kind of vicious, evil regimes. Bad for working people. Bad for women. Bad for the economy. They will privatize our resources, as Harris did & leave us deeply in debt, as Harper is doing. And NOWHERE have I suggested you don't have the right to free speech. You're a liar.
mightymissk 10 months ago
@mightymissk Bad for working people? How about Rae Days when there were no jobs for working people. We had that in BC with the NDP too. Canada now has the lowest debt and deficit in the G8 and the lowest unemployment. Paul Martin is credited for a little bit but that was because the Reform Party pushed for us to balance the budget. The deficit we do have was forced by the coalition which they now criticize us for having. Harper has been good with the economy and with finances considering.
malfoy2 10 months ago
@malfoy2 The Rae Days saved 30,000 good public service jobs. People lost one week's work a year. Canada HAD the lowest debt due to Liberal management. Now lying Tories take the credit. The deficit we have now was not "forced." Harper spent 2 BILLION ALONE IN ONE WEEKEND AT THE G20. He spends our money on government ADS & on jets no other country wants & on prisons for pot smokers. Never on anything useful, like, say clean water on reserves. He is deliberately emasculating Canada. TORIES LIE.
mightymissk 10 months ago
@mightymissk I will admit that Rae has been more honorable and respectful then Iggy. I would prefer him if I was a coalition voter. But to correct you again the jail time for pot only would apply for Grow-ops. Harper also raised the age of consent, gave mandatory still jail time for repeat violent and sexual offenders and stopped people from getting that stupid 2 for 1 credit leaving little jail time after a sentence is given. G20 money is the cost of being international community.
malfoy2 10 months ago
@malfoy2 Harper is hiring 4,000 prison guards & BORROWING BILLIONS to put people who grow pot in jail FOR YEARS OF THEIR LIVES & WE GET TO PAY FOR IT. Mandatory minimum sentences are barbaric, they are a direct attack on judicial independence and NO OTHER G20 COUNTRY spent 2 BILLION IN ONE WEEKEND. Harper set cops on kids singing the national anthem. He's good at spending our health care money on riot gear & fake lakes. And why do you bother to respond to this poor Mom, Tory? You have nothing.
mightymissk 10 months ago
@mightymissk Again, you get angry at Mr. Harper's success. (A success that has convinced many Canadians not to vote for that American, Iffy.)
Oh well--maybe the lie-berals can find a good leader on what....the fourth attempt?
Just wondering...
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener And why are you now discriminating against Americans? Besides, Iggy isn't an American, he couldn't find work here so he went to the US. That's what always happens (and vice versa in this case). If a guy can't find work in his country he finds work in another.
gricer1326 10 months ago
@mightymissk Actually you respond to my post first. Just to put the record straight. "Poor mom. Everyone feel sorry for me! I wasnt careful and got knocked up but someone who wasnt man enough to support me like he should have and now everyone feel sorry for me. Mer Mer Mer!"
Maybe you missed the riot that set police cars on fire and smashed sores just for the sake of opportunity. What did they prove? Nothing! And if you dont want violent people in jail we should send them to your neighborhood.
malfoy2 10 months ago
@malfoy2 The only thing you know about me is that I'm a Mom who used to be on welfare & who knows Harper's Tories are my deadly enemies. And I'm a better debater than you. Tories hate poor people & your snarling remarks about me getting "knocked up" prove my point. I live in downtown Toronto & my neighbors witnessed cops harass & beat ordinary citizens & THEY DELIBERATELY ALLOWED THE BLACK BLOC, HALF OF WHOM WERE RCMP OR CSIS--TO SMASH STORE FRONTS. I can take you in any argument woman-hater.
mightymissk 10 months ago
@mightymissk Uhhhhhh...unmightymiss....you seem to be confused. You complain about the solid leadership of Mr. Harper and then add a comment about the Toronto police. The Toronto police are a city issue that falls under that left-winger boy, Miller. (The one Toronto threw into the garbage can for the anti-gravy train, Mr. Ford.)
Oh well, logic seldom works with left-wingers. What to get a left-winger angry? Just shower them with facts!
Thanks for playing to the norm!
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener What part of I am not interested in talking to you, do you not understand? I don't even know which post you are referring to. I have made no particular comments about Toronto police. But for the record: Mayor Miller did not send 19,000 police officers here to beat up over a 1000 peaceful protesters & Miller did not suspend freedom of assembly--a right my father fought for in WWII--your Mr Harper did that. And you are simply not a good debater. Run along & polish your jackboots.
mightymissk 10 months ago
@mightymissk I can easily and honestly call you a "liar".
Dalton McLier suspended any laws you are referring to.
Anyone on this site can easily check the facts and confirm that you are a liar.
You are probably a lie-beral plant desperately trying to improve that American, Iffy's chances in the next federal election. It won't work! After the lie-beral corruption scandal, we know your tricks.
Won't work this time.
BTW my father fought in WWII for truth-try it for both our parent’s memory!
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener You call me a liar? McGuinty did indeed use the 1939 Public Works Protection Act at the G20. When I said HARPER SUSPENDED FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY AT THE G20 I was referring to his hiring an army of police roughly the size of 3 Roman legions to come here and beat up kids with nose piercings, singing the national anthem. McGuinty enacted this folly AT THE BEHEST OF THE POLICE. But at the heart of it IS HARPER, WHO REFUSED ALL ADVICE NOT TO HOLD THE G20 IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE. You asshole.
mightymissk 10 months ago
@mightymissk Your father who served in WW2 would be ashamed of you!
Mr. Harper bought the G20 to Toronto without realizing the weirdo suspension of rights by Dalton McLier.
(How many times has Dalton jumped around on this issue trying to avoid the fact of his endorsement of draconian measures against some poor protestors? Why does McLier refuse a provincial inquiry to clear the air? Questions you are afraid to answer?)
Your (and my) father fought for truth. Start practicing it!!!!
mikefastener 10 months ago
@mikefastener SO YOUR MR HARPER DID NOT REALIZE THAT THE PRESENCE OF 19,000 COPS IN DOWNTOWN TORONTO MIGHT RESULT IN MASSIVE CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS? He's that stupid is he? Or just shy & sweetly naive? AND MY FATHER, who fought fascism--the ideology you subscribe to in its latest form under Harper--WOULD BE PROUD OF ME FOR FIGHTING THE LIKES OF YOU. It's your Dad who must shudder. I've told you repeatedly, you aren't worth a good debate. Stop sending your poisonous little rants to my inbox.
mightymissk 10 months ago
@mightymissk oh poor unmighty! So you are saying that Dalton McLier and that socialist weirdo (yes, I know, redundant) Miller boy screwed up on the protection of Toronto against the thugs? Mr. Harper was busy giving advice to world leaders about his success and steady hand on the Canadian economy (Mr. Harper is an economist, you know). Looks like your lies keep coming out and your father would certainly be ashamed.
Try the truth....it will set you free!
Glad I could help you.
mikefastener 10 months ago