@sna2ke: very wise observations. What is being overlooked, however, is Rakim's "battle" abilities. Cats tend to forget that Rakim prior to "Paid in Full" had established himself as an exceptional street ("battle") rapper - beit Queens or Brookyln - he would instigate mind-expanding lyrical freestyles that had brothers buckling at the knees. Even today, Rakim blends and fuses the dopest metaphores with his signature flow, and while Kane is dope, few - if any - can step to The "R". Peace.
I THINK HIS POINT IS MISSED. if you give ra time to write he will create something very mind blowing. but Kane isnt to be messed with in a short period of time. he is to slick with words. Ra is indeed the god of rap, but kane is unbeatable battle rap style and if anyone thinks kane is just talkin smack, i dare you to listen to songs like lyrical gymnastics or terror in your era or the beef is on or this is how we do... with snoop. HE GOT MAD SKILLS and slicker word play. they r 1 and 1a.
@dmajorhiphopproducer: I know what you'r saying; couldn't agree more. What cats don't understand - or blankly don't know - is that Rakim was indeed a "battle rapper" when he first cut his teeth in the Hip-Hop game. He was at the park and on the grind well before Paid in Full came out, and Rakim earned his stripes having to "battle" seriously talented MC's, and guess what: he never lost! That's gospel truth from the street. Cats were avoiding Rakim because of his lyrical prowess. God MC indeed.
Man, this is a hard battle to really decide. I mean, Rakim has the street rhymes and metaphors and Kane has the wit and the punchlines. I've gone back and forth on it and I slightly lean towards Kane, but I do think that Rakim is the greatest MC of all time. Even if he was to have lost a battle to Kane, I don't think that would sway my opinion.
Rakim is God, but I love Kane! He's a down-to-earth brother. Rakim and Kane hook up quite a bit and laugh about all the debates cats have been having over the years - hell, I have been having these talks with my crew for so long it's nuts. But Kane has already gone on record as saying that Rakim is "a brother from another planet; just can't touch him." Here he's asked who would "kill who"? He's playing up to the legend, the friendly battle. Because Hip-Hop thrives on it..it's good for the soul.
Not at all! Rakim's punchlines and catch-phrases are legendary - Follow The leader, Let the Rythm Hit "Em, The 18th Letter - all these joints display razor-sharp lyricism and internal rhyme schemes that has awarded Rakim the title of "God MC." There is no higher, more respected title in Hip-Hop. RAKIM, always and forever
@HeadHipHop I think your appraisal of Ra is dead-on. Ra's lyrical brilliance is unmatched. Ra was so far ahead of his time that the world had to wait for Nas before anybody could really understand what Ra brought to the game. I remember the headlines: Nas is the second-coming of Rakim. Damn! Ain't no other rapper ever been passed the torch with those kind of honors. Yeah, Rakim.
@MoxicoMC: impossible? Try more than possible. "Let The Rythm Hit Em" still crushes Mc's wanting to step to The God. And Rakim's punchlines are legendary: "I can take a phrase that's rarely heard, flip it, now it's the daily word." Just a dope brother. As I say, Kane is Dope - seen him, love him, but Rakim is just nasty when it comes to rhyme skillz, use of similies, bending words and creating vivid architectural pictures in his raps!
@MoxicoMC: Nah, Kane can't step to the God, are you kidding?! It's not even a question about personal prefernce, but just plain native knowing! Rakim's lyrics to Follow The leader, Musical Massacre, The Punisher, etc, kills anything Kane has laid to wax. And I love this brother, always have, but Rakim is not called God for nothing. There's no higher title in Hip-Hop.
@KTHREE31: It would be a harmonious result, a gratifying one, if these two brothers went to battle and came out with a "tie" result. But cats really underestimate Rakim's street skillz - he CAN battle, and with old skool joints like Musical Massacre, No Competition - Rakim canes Kane's ass, no disrespect to this brother, 'cause I love him. Then there's Let The Rythm Hit 'em. Lyrically, no brother has lyrically up-staged Rakim....these jewels secure him as God MC, aint no competition. Peace
Awww mane, Rakim!! You listen to this brothers '88 joints like Musical Massacre, No Competition, Follow The leader, and it's Game Over. It's impossible to even step to this brother. He's immaculate: flow, structure, lofty content, swag-infused Dopeness that has no contenders in his path, and as much as I love Daddy kane, Rakim can't be beat!
@reggiemuch Im a fan of both and cant declare a winner, but if you think all Kane had was booty rhymes your trippin...Listen to Niggas never learn, Beef is on, and Put your weight on it, which was in my opinion a response to Ra's Lyrics of Fury.
This would have been like Mayweather vs. Pacua or whoever you spell it.
RA was dope,but his rhymes were more about you visualizing what he said.Kane gave you a different variety of styles and topics while RA went hard most of the time.In a battle Kane would destroy RA,and I never heard about Raking battling anyone.Kane G rap krs 1,and others yeah,and Lyrics of fury is my favorite Raking song.Hands down Kane is all around better than RA,they just had two different approaches.Raking said Kane and G rap was his measuring sticks,so he wrote rhymes based of them
The PUNISHER, LYRICS OF FURY just to name a few are battle records! Kane's correct it wouldn't have been any competition cause he(KANE) can't compare or compete! Ra changed the game while Kane JUST played!!!LOL
Kane was very commonplace back in the day! He had good delivery, but truthfully he wasn't sayin shit that was mind-blowing. He was a decent rapper with booty attributes:" My rhymes are like spandex they make any ass look good." RA was original, innovative, intelligent, complex, and thought-provoking. He mastered so many horizons:"My unusual style/Will confuse u all-WILD/ If I was water- I'd flow in the NILE"
Ra goes down in history as one of the greatest mcs to step foot on the planet.But sadly to say he was not in the same category as Kane. BDK was the ultimate mc - he had it all: charisma, lyrical content, metaphors, stage presents, sense of humour just to name a few.
Ra was my favourite rapper and still one of my favourites but when BDK came on the scene he absolutely blew my mind with true magical rhymes!
I'm all in on that one H-H-H.....The only thing is that if the battle took place in the late 80's-mid 90's we know the God MC would destroy Kane.....and I fucks with Kane too......If it happened today he would win because noone checks for fluidity, flow, lyrical content, etc.......Kinda like when Nelly "batltled" KRS......pure heads know KRS killed his career....But to others they say he killed Kris...The REAL Hip-Hop...is Ova HEEERE!
@sna2ke: very wise observations. What is being overlooked, however, is Rakim's "battle" abilities. Cats tend to forget that Rakim prior to "Paid in Full" had established himself as an exceptional street ("battle") rapper - beit Queens or Brookyln - he would instigate mind-expanding lyrical freestyles that had brothers buckling at the knees. Even today, Rakim blends and fuses the dopest metaphores with his signature flow, and while Kane is dope, few - if any - can step to The "R". Peace.
MrJazzHOP 2 days ago
I THINK HIS POINT IS MISSED. if you give ra time to write he will create something very mind blowing. but Kane isnt to be messed with in a short period of time. he is to slick with words. Ra is indeed the god of rap, but kane is unbeatable battle rap style and if anyone thinks kane is just talkin smack, i dare you to listen to songs like lyrical gymnastics or terror in your era or the beef is on or this is how we do... with snoop. HE GOT MAD SKILLS and slicker word play. they r 1 and 1a.
sna2ke 4 days ago
@dmajorhiphopproducer: I know what you'r saying; couldn't agree more. What cats don't understand - or blankly don't know - is that Rakim was indeed a "battle rapper" when he first cut his teeth in the Hip-Hop game. He was at the park and on the grind well before Paid in Full came out, and Rakim earned his stripes having to "battle" seriously talented MC's, and guess what: he never lost! That's gospel truth from the street. Cats were avoiding Rakim because of his lyrical prowess. God MC indeed.
MrJazzHOP 5 days ago
i can't believe he said Rakim isn't a battle rapper. I love BDK but dude, "I ain't no joke" "follow the lead" etc come on man...
dmajorhiphopproducer 1 week ago
Man, this is a hard battle to really decide. I mean, Rakim has the street rhymes and metaphors and Kane has the wit and the punchlines. I've gone back and forth on it and I slightly lean towards Kane, but I do think that Rakim is the greatest MC of all time. Even if he was to have lost a battle to Kane, I don't think that would sway my opinion.
Armando316 2 weeks ago
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Kane is a lyrical master rakim is nice but is not a better mc than Kane
traydog40 1 month ago
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I love rakim but he can't fuck with Kane lyrically
traydog40 1 month ago
Rakim is God, but I love Kane! He's a down-to-earth brother. Rakim and Kane hook up quite a bit and laugh about all the debates cats have been having over the years - hell, I have been having these talks with my crew for so long it's nuts. But Kane has already gone on record as saying that Rakim is "a brother from another planet; just can't touch him." Here he's asked who would "kill who"? He's playing up to the legend, the friendly battle. Because Hip-Hop thrives on it..it's good for the soul.
MrJazzHOP 1 month ago 3
''who would kill who?'' hahaha
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Not at all! Rakim's punchlines and catch-phrases are legendary - Follow The leader, Let the Rythm Hit "Em, The 18th Letter - all these joints display razor-sharp lyricism and internal rhyme schemes that has awarded Rakim the title of "God MC." There is no higher, more respected title in Hip-Hop. RAKIM, always and forever
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MrJazzHOP 2 months ago
KANE HAS TOO MUCH PUNCH LINES FOR RAKIM *, BUT RAKIM HAS SOLID LYRICS, ITS A HARD 1 LOL *
callumbrowns 2 months ago
@HeadHipHop I think your appraisal of Ra is dead-on. Ra's lyrical brilliance is unmatched. Ra was so far ahead of his time that the world had to wait for Nas before anybody could really understand what Ra brought to the game. I remember the headlines: Nas is the second-coming of Rakim. Damn! Ain't no other rapper ever been passed the torch with those kind of honors. Yeah, Rakim.
LyricalKnight1 2 months ago 11
@MoxicoMC: impossible? Try more than possible. "Let The Rythm Hit Em" still crushes Mc's wanting to step to The God. And Rakim's punchlines are legendary: "I can take a phrase that's rarely heard, flip it, now it's the daily word." Just a dope brother. As I say, Kane is Dope - seen him, love him, but Rakim is just nasty when it comes to rhyme skillz, use of similies, bending words and creating vivid architectural pictures in his raps!
MrJazzHOP 3 months ago 9
@MoxicoMC: Nah, Kane can't step to the God, are you kidding?! It's not even a question about personal prefernce, but just plain native knowing! Rakim's lyrics to Follow The leader, Musical Massacre, The Punisher, etc, kills anything Kane has laid to wax. And I love this brother, always have, but Rakim is not called God for nothing. There's no higher title in Hip-Hop.
MrJazzHOP 3 months ago 8
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KANE is that shit!!!!!! A true warrior and no one can match him...Lyrically its impossible...
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Competition is none, I remain at the top like the sun
And I burn whoever come in the chambers of torture
I caught ya, you shoulda brought ya, neighborhood to support ya.
RAKIM: NO COMPETITION.
MrJazzHOP 3 months ago 5
@KTHREE31: It would be a harmonious result, a gratifying one, if these two brothers went to battle and came out with a "tie" result. But cats really underestimate Rakim's street skillz - he CAN battle, and with old skool joints like Musical Massacre, No Competition - Rakim canes Kane's ass, no disrespect to this brother, 'cause I love him. Then there's Let The Rythm Hit 'em. Lyrically, no brother has lyrically up-staged Rakim....these jewels secure him as God MC, aint no competition. Peace
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MrJazzHOP 4 months ago
WOW! eYe Kan't B-leev KANE, RAKIM wud B at least a tie if not better in a battle. However RAKIM has more quality songz.
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Awww mane, Rakim!! You listen to this brothers '88 joints like Musical Massacre, No Competition, Follow The leader, and it's Game Over. It's impossible to even step to this brother. He's immaculate: flow, structure, lofty content, swag-infused Dopeness that has no contenders in his path, and as much as I love Daddy kane, Rakim can't be beat!
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@reggiemuch Im a fan of both and cant declare a winner, but if you think all Kane had was booty rhymes your trippin...Listen to Niggas never learn, Beef is on, and Put your weight on it, which was in my opinion a response to Ra's Lyrics of Fury.
This would have been like Mayweather vs. Pacua or whoever you spell it.
d7j28c68 4 months ago
Classic.. Kane handled the question like a vet....
d7j28c68 4 months ago
RA was dope,but his rhymes were more about you visualizing what he said.Kane gave you a different variety of styles and topics while RA went hard most of the time.In a battle Kane would destroy RA,and I never heard about Raking battling anyone.Kane G rap krs 1,and others yeah,and Lyrics of fury is my favorite Raking song.Hands down Kane is all around better than RA,they just had two different approaches.Raking said Kane and G rap was his measuring sticks,so he wrote rhymes based of them
Wolffang1100 6 months ago
The PUNISHER, LYRICS OF FURY just to name a few are battle records! Kane's correct it wouldn't have been any competition cause he(KANE) can't compare or compete! Ra changed the game while Kane JUST played!!!LOL
reggiemunch 6 months ago
Kane was very commonplace back in the day! He had good delivery, but truthfully he wasn't sayin shit that was mind-blowing. He was a decent rapper with booty attributes:" My rhymes are like spandex they make any ass look good." RA was original, innovative, intelligent, complex, and thought-provoking. He mastered so many horizons:"My unusual style/Will confuse u all-WILD/ If I was water- I'd flow in the NILE"
reggiemunch 6 months ago
Ra goes down in history as one of the greatest mcs to step foot on the planet.But sadly to say he was not in the same category as Kane. BDK was the ultimate mc - he had it all: charisma, lyrical content, metaphors, stage presents, sense of humour just to name a few.
Ra was my favourite rapper and still one of my favourites but when BDK came on the scene he absolutely blew my mind with true magical rhymes!
keith196333 7 months ago
it would be spectacular if a battle happens b/w kane & ra !
rjvernesto 7 months ago
whats that ? actual competitive spirit ? bout damn time
90mv 7 months ago
I'm all in on that one H-H-H.....The only thing is that if the battle took place in the late 80's-mid 90's we know the God MC would destroy Kane.....and I fucks with Kane too......If it happened today he would win because noone checks for fluidity, flow, lyrical content, etc.......Kinda like when Nelly "batltled" KRS......pure heads know KRS killed his career....But to others they say he killed Kris...The REAL Hip-Hop...is Ova HEEERE!
hulkdaddy71 7 months ago