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  • your all missing the point. the point was to put the fans through what yuki was going through and it worked. it pissed everyone off because it's monotonous, that's the goddamn point. a time loop like that would probably make you commit suicide on the 30th run but yuki had to do it 15,500 times (not the exact number. i know, shut the fuck up about it)

  • I'm curious to know what Tanigawa Nagaru thinks about the butchery version of his story.

  • And now everyone loves what they did.

    Poor angry kids who got angry over this two years ago... they were sacrificed for the future of Haruhi!

  • "You have to promise not to write about this on the net."

    "I won't."

    ----

    "But it's a secret!"

    LOL.

  • FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU­UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU­UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU­UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU­UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU­UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU­UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU­UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

  • ケタケタ笑いながら何が詫びだよ〜(笑)

    気がぬけすぎだろ、喋り方からして

    なんか腹立つ

  • how am i supposed to understand this

  • Endless 8 sucks fat greasy balls. Shittiest arc in all anime. Nice trolling tho!

  • I love this guy. You can always count on him to be outspoken and controversial when it comes to Kyoani.  I'm looking forward to his antics in 2011 when his next series comes out.

  • Endless 8 are great productions and honorable trial as same as Eva's last episodes. Yamamoto doesn't have the qualification to criticizes it. It shows the limit of the tolerance and art as an Anime director.

  • @poconyanpocopoco There's no artistic view on having the same thing repeat over and over in unecessary loops :l The season could have been much better if it went on and focused on other chapters in the other novels.

  • @poconyanpocopoco < trollbait. U mad, bros?

  • Piece of crap, you were wasting my time to watch 8 same episodes, idiot.

  • i thought this guy claimed he was fired...

  • Endless Eight was to learn kids to ALWAYS DO YOUR HOMEWORK..

    Srsly Endless Eight was epic failure of KyotoAni. They were uber level trolls to make smth like that...

  • Well, the ending was humorous...if not insanely ludicrous. God Damn Kyon didn't do his homework, so the entire universe gets stuck in a timeloop for 6 years?! The Hell?

    If you already read the light novels, then your still surprised. It was just a short story that equaled about....a few chapters at most. Now it's the epic month of INSANITY.

  • @SonofAbel well in the story it lastet well over ~15000 times and they mention that equals over 500 years, also 8 epsiodes with one each week equal 2 months of insanity =(

  • 確かに、アンニュイな表情のシーンとかあったけど、その後の話(­射手座とか、ライブとか)ではフツーだったじゃん。

    まるで、とってつけたようなシーンだなって一目瞭然だわ。

    作り方が雑すぎます。

  • マイナス評価もいいですが、ちゃんと反論してね。

    ただの腹いせには興味ありませんw

  • エンドレス8の是非論について、語れる人。

    君は、あの件に着いてきちんと語れる人??

  • @azuki0115

    人のこと焚き付けといて、反論なしかよ

    待ちくたびれたわ!ボケ

  • まだやってたんだ。

    消失映画化の為の、ただの回数水増しだってのが判明したのに、ご­苦労チャンですね。

    長門の気持ちのうんざり感とか、序序に誤作動へと向かっていく微­妙な変化とかが伝わってくる、とか言ってる人がいたけど、そんな­こと製作人の中で意識して作ってる人なんて誰一人いないってこと­は、見ればすぐわかるじゃん。

  • am i the only one who liked endless eight?

    clearly the main idea was that... to make you feel how it is to be in their situation... and they achieved that...

    8 is just perfect... besides of the fact that infinity symbol in math is an 8

  • i liked the endless eight....

  • The problem with this is that it's a big waste of time for the fans, many of whom spend their personal time looking to the next episode. No one wants to sit in an endless scenario because a stupid high school girl can't get over a few little problems. People watch anime to escape the drudgery of life, not to immerse themselves in it.

  • I liked Endless 8 too...

    It kinda showed a darker side to Kyon, and developed Yuki's character too. Even though she went through the sameish iteration that many times, not once did she try to correct it.

    Also the fact that even though Kyon knew that Yuki was suffering for this loop and there was a possible way to get out of it that had worked before, he still didn't take it.

  • you may like the upcoming movie, the story shows what happens after endless eight and what came as a result

  • @TheFailedNinja

    yeah... need to wait till, what, October/November till the DVDs? :O

    but yeah, looking forward to it, love Yuki :D

  • @SylpheedNagato yeah ton of nagato love in the movie,

    watched it the other day in real low quality,

    but simply fantastic.... cant say much more

  • @SylpheedNagato

    You call it a "development", I call it a "giant plot hole". Oh yeah, Yuki can smash into a controlled space and save Kyon's life and easily do just about anything Kyon or Haruhi asks her to, but when it comes to, I dunno, preventing the universe from looping over itself, maybe warning everyone about this crap at the beginning of the week, suddenly "my mission is to observe only," more like, "my mission is to drag this bullshit out over eight episodes"

  • @mtthwreyes

    Well, she also sayd that in the novel.

    If Kyon had been killed shit would blow up, which would be bad.

    But the time-looping was of no consequence to the Data Entity thing, there was no need for them to intervene.

  • haha and in the season two opening there and infinity sign on one of the sign thingys

  • これ正式な謝罪会見ですか?

    なんかのついでっぽい

    エンドレス×8は絶対に肯定しない

    養護派の長門感情移入論は

    小説全部読めばわかると思うけど

    「涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱」全体としての

    構成を考えるとありえないと思う

  • 主役は長門ではない

    消失の感情描写のメインは長門だが

    それにしたって長門が世界の改変を

    行った理由がSOS団での日々が

    「エンドレス何回もやって間延びして

    つまんなくなっちまったからこんな

    世界いらね」

    みたいな流れにもってくのはおかしい

  • 長門に感情移入できたというなら

    もっと繊細なところまでくみとるべき

    つまりなんにせよ今日アニの演出も

    山寛降板の人事も失敗

    養護には値しない

  • とはいえ

    この謝罪に関しては既に京アニを去った

    山寛が謝罪など 社会的に見れば

    越権行為もいいとこ

    京アニにも失礼だし ファンにも当然失礼

    「わかってたなら辞めんなよ」とか

    叩かれんのも当たり前

    こんな形で謝るくらいなら

    山寛の会社オースと京アニ和解して

    合同でハルヒ作り直す提案を考えてますくらいジョークでも言った­ほうがまし

  • もう

    ハルヒみたいな名作が京アニの内部闘争

    でめちゃくちゃにされたと思うだけで

    腹立つから

    製作者が内容を吟味もせず

    勝手な都合で物語改変してしまって

    おもしろくしようっていう心掛けが

    足らないからこんなことなるんだよ

  • ヤマカンへ

    自分が作ったエンドレスエイトをyou tubeにupしてみては?皆にセンスを見せつけてやりましょう­。

    opは「冒険でしょでしょ」のリメイク希望。

  • I think I get the point of endless eight. They made this because no one actually buy anime DVD because of streaming and internet distribution stuffs. It's their REVENGE.

  • @vivoslibertos good one xD

  • If want to do REPEATED anime at least example Higurashi naku goro ni. It's also has repeated plot but it's not lame like haruhi 2nd season.

  • ハルヒが好きで二期をずっと待っていました。

    貴方が謝っても今の人達が謝罪しないといけないと思う。

  • So what do we have to do to get him to come back? Haruhi is a cash cow for Kyoto Animation and the new guy is screwing it up badly.

  • lol so much for being a secret and not posting on the net xD

  • Wow, yes endless eight is such a big deal, Haruhi is ruined because of it, seriously, everyone, get over it, no one cares anymore, at least, no one with any sense!

  • Damnit, i was going to ask this same exact question.

  • Even adding even adding one time loop episode was a huge stretch but 8!? Thats insane! and it wasn't even anything that great, Haruhi just forgot to do her homework! Not only that but now they're revisiting that chronologically confusing school festival episode! I like the show, but it's as if the show's deliberately TRYING to annoy me.

  • I think that the director was trying to convey Yuki's pain. Perhaps he did go to far. Maybe there was reasons for funding, or had been pressured to continue the idea.

    I agree, I do not like where the story is headed. I would hate for the series to actually loose the underlying ideas behind it; physics and philosophical ideas. The average anime fan would not catch that stuff.

  • i almost thought that, but it can't be true because some of the first few episodes seemed to stress that Yuki is a robot incapable of feelings, she might maybe get an update or something to mimic emotions but down to her core, she's just a robot.

    Remember in that one episode whn her hand was cut really badly and she didn't so much as cringe?

  • Someone's obviously never read the light novels. The writer actually stated that Yuki is the character he likes to develop the most.

    She is capable of emotions, she just tries not to convey them, but she slowly changes to start showing them more.

    Without her developing emotions, The Disappearance of Haruhi wouldn't even have happened.

  • It definitely wasn't because of funding.

    Each of those episodes had entirely new animation and sound, meaning they spent just as much on each one.

  • haruhi finished homework in 3 days >.>

  • Check that out motherfuckers, Link is a pimp.

  • but know they wasted the 9 episode wich leaves only 5

  • Endless Eight reads like an idea one of the higher-up's girlfriend had that he had to hammer out and stick by for the sake of his sex life.

  • "God is dead" by Nietzsche

  • That poor guy - he said not to post to the 'net - I don't know where he's moved on to since KyoAni but I hope his reputation isn't damaged for this...

  • >I don't know where he's moved on to

    See tinyurl[dot]com/y97tmcw (Wikipedia). He directed the anime of Kannagi; see my profile for the ED. :)

  • そうですよね。

    ヤマカンよりながるんが問題ですよね。

  • so will there be more haruhi episodes???

    or an other season??

    because i liked season 1 very bad

    and hated season 2

    but i want more seasons just as good as season 1

    so plz make another one but dont make it so fucking anoying anymore!!!!!!

    is he responsible for this?

    because he is fired?

    but are they going for normal episodes now? plz ='(

  • We got 2 episodes...

  • 一言言わせていただきますと、これはあなたが考えている会見とは­違います。Otakonというのはアメリカメリーランド州で毎年­開かれるAnime convention・・・ようするにアニメ好きな人のための集­まりです。こういう「パネル」も緊張感のないのが普通で、質問し­ているのは記者ではなく一般人のオタクです。

  • Kyo-Ani! bankrupt lol don't think it's gonna happen xD

  • if they keep up with unique....yet retarded ideas....they might

  • And I waz thinking to myself at the beginning of this series "wouldn't it be hilarious if this actually lasted eight episodes." Well it wasn't fucking hilarious.

  • no, just no, you shut up now and go sit in the corner with american animation fans who LOVE to see the same shit animated over and over again.

  • Poor Yamamoto. This seems more like a Press conference, rather than questions from fans. XD 8 episodes is way too much though. I agree, 2 episodes, semi-clever... but 8? That's really just telling people not to bother watching the show at all. They make the crappy filler that's been going on for other popular series look awesome. Maybe that's their goal?

  • Ah Yamamoto-Sensei. KyoAni isn't the same without you. Loved Kannagi by the way lol.

  • >Loved Kannagi by the way

    Agreed, considering the manga they did a very good job.

  • Arigato Yamamoto. No apologies necessary.

    ... well, not from YOU anyway. The current production company, however, is a different story. They get Guantanamo Bay.

  • It's over!! Mazui has also released the sub.

  • true, but the hype created for the second season, it's also over, let see how the other episodes turn out...

  • This just in: IT"S FINALLY OVER!!!

  • Our long (Inter)national nightmare is finally over!

  • ああああああ

  • 本当に8回まで同じ事が続くんだね

  • 自分もそう思う。

    しかも、海外で話のついでみたいな感じでの謝罪会見(なのか?)­。

    おかど違いであっても、どーせ誤るなら国内ですべき。

  • それと、知ってたんなら京アニやめたりしないで、徹底して反対し­続けて、こんな企画阻すべきだったね。

    作品を守ってないじゃん。

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  • ここでマイナスつけた人はエンドレス肯定派だね。

    肯定派のみなさんで、平野綾の後任探してやれよ。

    エンドレスで嫌がってたみたいだし。

    喜ぶよ~。

  • least somebody is taking responsibility. and im losing faith in it i wanted it back and this is what happens -.-

  • like its said in the fan reaction video: they must be separating the true believers from the posers xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

  • KyoAni should of listened to Yamamoto and sticked with 2 episodes.

  • Just wanted point something out---he never answers the guy's question about "why" they decided to do this. That's what I'd like to know.

  • RRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGG­GGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..­..... @ endless eight.

  • アレは、公開自慰行為(前衛芸術の押し売り)で有り、大衆娯楽作­品では無いねぃ無能スナァァorz この人ヘラヘラし過ぎでしょ?

    キモ~ぃ☆

  • well no upcoming secret info about haruhi.

    didn't the guy say it was a secret ?! didn't he say not to tell anyone ?! and what do you do you film this anyways. man that's mean that you uploaded this >_>

  • "Why didnt you warm us??"

  • this is what i think about Endless Eight AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR­RRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

  • I heard they ran out of ideas, and the endless eight is just a way to gain time until they finalize a deal with Stephen King to write new episodes.

  • They have more than enough material in the novels so I doubt this.

  • So, let me get this straight, Endless Eight is a time loop, told up to 8 different ways, over the course of 8 episodes of Haruhi?

    And all based on 1 Story?

    Yeah, if someone in the west tried to do that, they'd be rightly shot!

  • The endless re-runs take fillers on a whole new level!!! They just wanna kill the series... it should be called "the bored of Nagato"... instead of the melancholy of haruhi suzumiya..

  • ARGREE

  • Am I the only person who doesn't mind, and actually kind of enjoys this? I think it's interesting. Sure, the same events are happening, but everything else is entirely different.

    I enjoy visually watching each episode and all of the differences.

  • I don't think it's a bad idea, it's just horribly over done. Like he said, they shouldn't have repeated it as much as they have, I think they should have stopped after 3, max. And considering how long they've been hyping the new season, it just makes it all the more frustrating. The remaining episodes better be f-ing epic or I'm going to feel like some kind of whore.

  • Initially I would get angry at the end of each loop episode but by the 5th one I just excepted it would last for 8 episodes. Ever since I stopped expecting them to resolve it at the end of each episode I've actually started to enjoy them as well. Of course this is due partly to the fact I know next week's episode should end it. If they had decided to go with "Forever Fifteen" instead of "Endless Eight" than I would probably be pretty angry still.

  • i was there, way to not listen to him telling you not to distribute this :|

    the other questions at the panel all sucked, it's like half the audience was autistic

  • he said not to write about it on the net, never said anything about youtube, plus he's not talking to teh guy that's video taping and thank god he/she posted this. The problem now clearly points to the new director...

    And you can tell he didn't want to say anything incriminating, he was trying to be very careful with his words and in the end he knows it's wrong and apologizes on behalf of the team. There are still otakus out there that believe there's deeper meaning to this whole fiasco it's bs

  • These people can talk about it all they want. Don't tell them what they can or can't do...

  • 何だ、日本じゃなくて海外相手に謝罪してたのか。全然意味合いが­違うから、元ネタ参照してよかった。

  • I loved KyoAni...

    Clannad, Clannad Afterstory, Haruhi Suzumiya, Lucky Star, K-On.. etc.

    Great people.

    But the ENDLESS H8 Arc has already made most of the remnants of the haruhiists left, to either turn off their TVs..

    I don't know what KyoAni is trying with this...

    Bigger DVD selling? Losing Reputation?

    We shall never know

    Cheers,

    nick

  • they promise not to put it internet lol and HERE IT Is lol

  • no, they didn't

  • isnt this net??

  • they didn't promise. ROFL

  • Stunning insight there guy.

  • lol? i hate the recent director thought :PPP

  • they said "I will" as in I will put it in the net

  • he said he wont lol

  • 熱心な海外ファンを目の前にしたら、山本さんも、いい加減なこと­を言いたくなかったんだろう。素直に謝罪したくなったんだろうな­。真摯な態度だと思うよ。

  • ごめん間違えてコメントの評価下げちゃった

    Goodを押そうとしたんだけどなあすまん

    全面的に同意。今のハルヒがあまりにつまらないと(少なくとも彼­自身と記者たちは)感じているから謝ったんでしょう。

    個人的には角川へのイヤミも兼ねてると思うが

  • It's a psychological experiment. Please fill out your questionnaires after watching.

    I don't know...I'll still be watching...unfortunately.

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  • i liek this guy hate the recent directer :P

  • BTW, I miss the old KyoAni.

  • Whoever's the guy who came up with the "endless eight" idea should've be drug out to the street and shot...

    It shouldn't have gone longer than 3 episodes, maximum.

  • Yeah, I was excited to watch it and then I realized... They're going to replay the same episode over and over again...

  • My view of season 2 so far (no i'm not a light novel reader but enjoy the anime)

    Ep 1: Pretty good, surprising since Kyon and Mikuru were in a room for many years frozen in time. Surprising

    Ep2: Enjoyable enough since the gang was just frittering away with nicely drawn pics. Very relaxing ep

    Ep3: Kind of a bombshell drop with the whole reccuring time thing, very satisfying and since I was wondering why the ep was almost the same

    Ep4 and up: dissapointing, too litttle advancements :(

  • つまり全部角川が悪いって事だろ

  • I'm in despair! Endless Eight has put me in despair!

  • however~ i want to see the dissapearance of HS as fast as it can~

    but those episode f*cking E8! is tottaly pissed me off~

    it's just another junking story of the universe~

  • 京アニの事よく知らんけど、批判が出てくる事は判る

    はずだし、この前監督の謝罪もシナリオ通りかもし

    れんよ。

    自分もこんだけの話数やるのは、やりすぎだと思うし

    視聴者にもうんざり感を体感してもらう意図があった

    としてもこれだけやる必要もない。

    もっと穿った見方をすると、アニメでマーケティングの

    実験でもしてるのかと疑ってしまうな。

  • I just wanna know the secret already.

  • There's only one real reason KyoAni would make Endless Eight into this many episodes: publicity. I've never heard of a TV show doing anything like this before, so they might make the news about it for being the first. If they make the news, people will probably check out the anime and even end up liking it, meaning the series will get more fans that way and become more popular. Wasting animation like this is too much just for a prank to play on the fans, so has to be something more than that.

  • I think Endless Eight is one of the most original ideas in television storytelling. Sure, it gets annoying after a while, but it's a really cool idea. It could be shorter, but name another show that has done anything like this ever before. I like it for what it is.

  • It could have been one of the most original and interesting ideas if they had actually made changes in each iteration. It took Kyon until the fifth episode of E8 before Koizumi stopped having to tell him that he should know who isn't feeling deja vu. It took until 5 before Kyon didn't need prompting.

    1st and 2nd episode the same, Kyon learns more by the third, going straight to Yuki, perhaps waking up before mikuru's phone call, etc. and add knowledge 1 2 3 4 5, add knowledge each time.

  • Kyon-kun, denwa.

  • we've entered an endless recursion of time

  • That's true, but Haruhi is only to please otaku.

  • I personally like this arc, although it's true it's getting a tad too long... but hey, this is still Haruhi ! ^^

    and who knows, we'll perhaps have a season 3 one day (maybe in a few years, but what the Hell !).

    Plus, we really should wait for the end of this season 2 in order to have one's own constructive opinion.

  • よし!!!新しいアニメプロダクションを作る時がついに来たか!­

  • my guess is they are shifting the focus to yuki by making us feel like her.... bored

  • Wareware wa onaji jikan wo, eien to loop shiteru no desu yo. Wareware wa onaji jikan wo, eien to loop shiteru no desu yo. Wareware wa onaji jikan wo, eien to loop shiteru no desu yo. Wareware wa onaji jikan wo, eien to loop shiteru no desu yo. Wareware wa onaji jikan wo, eien to loop shiteru no desu yo. Wareware wa onaji jikan wo, eien to loop shiteru no desu yo. Wareware wa onaji jikan wo, eien to loop shiteru no desu yo. Wareware wa onaji jikan wo, eien to loop shiteru no desu yo.

  • うp主ネットに上げてるしw

    まあなんだ、山本寛氏このコメント見ていますか?

    僕はヤマカン氏の謝罪は見事だと思います。

    新ハルヒは二話がつまんなすぎて切ってたけどまさか六話もやって­いたとはww

  • とりあえずハルヒが終わったことだけは確実だな・・・。

  • yeah this loop is anoying already I mean 6episodes almost exactly the same .I could have taken 3 but 6 episodes come on. move with the story already.

  • まぁーいいんじゃね?

    The story is pretty good... I mean, the slight differences in artwork...is pretty fun to spot and stuff!

  • stretching a great thumbnail pic to the size of your desktop leaves you with shit

  • I'm just saying, I respect anything they do with Haruhi, it's part of Haruhism you know? (They can make the world of Haruhi as they want it to be... It really let's us expirence how Haruhi's world is like)

  • sorry for the double us's...lol

  • Haruhism?

    word

    but their market strength will drop, because the fans will be pissed

    in the future they might not be able to make any more good anime because of this

    lets hope it turns out ok

  • even the old director feels sorry for us

  • 正直な思いを語った事には好感がもてる

    京アニを出た理由が伺いしれるね

    2期に酷さを見れば一目瞭然だもんな~

    角川も京アニにもガッカリだ

    あ~ガッカリだ

  • Futch this season. Freaking bored with freaking long loop of animation with almost no difference in dialog... I can just download the novel and read it instead. Futch...

  • Haruhi probably wants to do something with kyon.

    when kyon asks her for help with his summer homework, the time loop will end.

  • Damn, u has to spoilz it??!

  • Thats exactly what i am thinking!

    This is all Kyon's fault!

  • LOL ep 7 is still the same OMG

  • i m so disappointed on haruhi s