The Difference between Fascism and Communism

[IamForever42]

ScottishSocialist1

[willmickel71]

It is not possible to argue that each individual should sacrifice for the whole of society, and yet expect each individual to know what "society's good" consists of, without having a dictator to tell them.

[canaldocorsarionegro]

I only have one word to comment... "Bullshit!"

[Ty311]

The primary difference between the 2 ideologies boils down to their economic systems: Fascism embraces corporatism, whereas Communism embraces socialism. The other definitions provided, particularly those pathetic and highly inaccurate definitions found in Wikipedia, which is an absurd and completely unacceptable source for anything, are almost entirely inaccurate.

[AntiFascist2011]

You call yourself 'Scottish', therefore, according to Communism you are a nationalist and borderline Fascist. Under Communism, Scoland and Scottish culture would be eradicated. Just as Stalin tried to exterminate Ukrainians, Chechens and Native Siberians.

[ScottishSocialist1]

@AntiFascist2011 "You call yourself Scottish. That means your a Fascist." ...bit of a gap you stepped there mate. Ever heard of the cultural revolution? Thats an example of a communist and nationalist movement. Self determination by nations is something often supported by communists, including Lenin.

[AntiFascist2011]

@ScottishSocialist1 Lenin talked the talk but he ordered the invasion of Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan. Stalin invaded the Baltic republics and deported the entire Chechen nation. Krushchev promised that all native cultures would be eradicated and replaced by the 'Soviet Man'.

Mao invaded and suppressed Tibet. Sundero Luminoso (Shining Path) murdered 30,000 indigenous Amerindian peasants in Peru. Even Gorbachev ethnically cleansed thousands of Armenians from their historic villages.

[lonewar]

@ScottishSocialist1 It's not self determination by nations. It's self determination by the leaders. The words "cultural revolution" you told just made a Chinese here scared, again.

[SAEuropeanPatriot]

@ScottishSocialist1 That is because Lenin was semi-fascist! If you are a Scottish nationalist how do you feel about people of different national and racial groups in your country? Most communist nations have practically been semi-fascist. Though economically they are weaker then a purely fascist state. All have been ultra-nationalist(apart from maybe Cuba but they are still somewhat Nationalistic). Stalin was even imperialist. Ilya Ehrenburg(Jewish) promoted anti-German chauvinism.

[IamForever42]

@ScottishSocialist1 Well done my man. I am so glad there R people like U online educating people about politics. Your right, it is dangerous 2 miss use terms and label ideologies incorrectly. I should say I am a communist at heart, but it is nothing political. I just believe that communal togetherness, where everything is everyones, & all is aware that all is family, is the root of true happiness, peace, & joy on earth. Call me soft, but I believe everyone is good. Great video!

[turbomango]

COMMUNISM AND FASCISM ARE BOTH SOCIALISM. STEMMING FROM THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND GOVERNMENT IS SMART, AND ALL KNOWING. THA THE GOVT IS YOUR DADDY, ANYONE WHO THINKS ANY SORT OF SOCIALISM IS GOOD, IS AN IDIOT ZOMBIE WHO LISTENS AND ACCEPT SUCH AUTHORITARIAN NOTIONS WITHOUT CRITICISM.

[themanishere4]

if we go just by what names would make one think imperialist capitalists must believe East Germany of the past (who they love to attack and malign) was allegedly "democratic" as its official name was the German Democratic Republic (GDR).

[themanishere4]

As for the misnomer of "Nationalist Socialist" for the Nazis this Nationalist part was to make it clear they were different and opposed to actual Socialists aka Marxists or Communists. Misnomers are very common throughout political history just one example if we go just by what names would make one thing imperialist capitalists must believe East Germany of the past (who they love to attack and malign) was allegedly "democratic" as its official name was the German Democratic Republic (GDR).

[turbomango]

@themanishere4 YOU'RE DUMB AS A DOORKNOB SO YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU ARE TOLD BY THOSE WHO PULL IDEAS OUT OF THEIR A. HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST. IT WAS CALLED THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY BCS IT WAS THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY. NAZI. BOTH COMM AND NAZI ARE ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM WITH SOME MINOR DIFFERENCES. BOTH ARE EUGENECISTS, BOTH HATE RELIGIONS. BOTH BELIEVE IN COLLECTIVISM, BOTH ARE STATIST. YOU NEED TO HIT THE BOOKS AND STOP GETTING YOUR INFO FROM ONE SOURCE WHO'S TRYING TO MOLD U

[themanishere4]

@turbomango Hitler was completely capitalist you fool! Hitler's ultimate enemies were always the Marxists, Communists, and as he always said the Bolsheviks. All real academics and historians agree the term "National Socialism" is a misnomer (and term "national" in the front is meant to make it completely different then its enemy of Marxism/Communism). Using your logic, do you believe East Germany was a democratic republic?! Because again its official name was the GDR, German Democratic Republic

[turbomango]

@themanishere4 You're a joke, u know that? Hitler a capitalist... if you read what I wrote in one of my other responses to your sorry ass, I told you ALL political ideologies NEED Capitalism.

There's Bottom-Up, top-down.

Socialism = communism and fascism = CAPITALISM and all money and profits IN GOVT HANDS! Go read a book, bcs what I tell u are FACTS not my personal opine. You spew NONSENSE!

FASCISM IS CORPORATISM - a form of capitalism where corporations and govt are ONE!

GET IT ZOMBIE?

[themanishere4]

@turbomango Hitler was not a "socialist", there was a small breakaway movement formed from within the mainstream of the Nazi party and that was the Strasserists who more openly criticiqued capitalism and especially "finance capitalism" which they associated with "Jewish bankers"; much like how mainstream Nazism of Hitler said Communism was also a Jewish conspiracy of Judeo-Bolsheviks. If you live in a society you are collectivist to some extent, period!

[turbomango]

@themanishere4 Obviously, you've been completely ideologically subverted. You don't know how to interpret what you're reading.

"We must overthrow Marxism, so that for the future National Socialism will be master of the street, just as it will one day become master of the State." Adolph Hitler in Mein Kamfe , page 416

[turbomango]

@themanishere4

"we had to make a stand against the crowd. As their cries and yells all along the route had failed to disturb the equanimity of our companies, the champions of true Socialism, Equality, and Fraternity now took to throwing stones. That brought our patience to an end. For ten minutes long, blows fell right and left, like a devastating shower of hail. Fifteen minutes later there were no more Reds to be seen in the street."

~ Adolf Hitler, in Mein Kamf, page 421

[turbomango]

@themanishere4 Hitler WAS a socialist, NAZI is socialism... NATIONAL Socialism. He correctly claimed Communism was a Judeo conspiracy with a front name of the Bolshevik Party which was invented and engineered to overthrow the Czar. The Bolshevik Party was mostly Zionists. The Nazi Socialist Party AND Hitler himself were also a Zionist contrived tools financially backed by the Central Bank families who are the same as today.. Rothschild, Morgan, Rockefeller, Oppenheimer, WIndsor, etc.

[themanishere4]

@turbomango Misnomers are very common throughout political history. Also you bring up "collectivism" and "statism", you do release all people are both of these to some degree! If you belong to any organization or group whatsoever you can be termed a collectivist; so if you belong to a club, a religious house of worship, or even a family you are collectivist. And if your not living off on a deserted island somehwere (like the idiot serial killer admire Ayn Rand's fictional John Galt) u r statist!

[turbomango]

@themanishere4

"National Socialism must claim the right to impose its principles on the whole German nation" Adolf Hitler, Mein Kamf Page 440 --

"But it is offensive and contrary to the spirit of National Socialism when incompetent people constantly interfere in the work of capable persons" Hitler, Mein Kamf, page 453

FASCISM IS SOCIALISM! STUPID PERSON< WAKE UP!

[themanishere4]

@turbomango Hitler did not want social justice he said in Mein Kampf "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live." Doesn't sound like someone out for a socialist, equal society! "National Socialism" was a misnomer. Do you also believe the US "Patriot Act" spy bill is "Patriotic"?! Misnomers are all over politics. Also all economics, especially capitalism, require a state and a social contract to exist.

[AntiFascist2011]

@themanishere4 Hitler first joined the German Workers Party after listening to an anti-Capitalist speech. The Nazis and Communists attracted the same types of people. Mindless zombie sheep desperate to follow a dictator with a totalitarian ideology.

The US "Patriot Act" spy bill is socialist because it empowers the government to oppress the people just like socialism preaches.

The only equality in Socialism is the equality of death in the gas chamber or the gulag.

[themanishere4]

@AntiFascist2011 Wow just making things up as you go, why on earth did Hitler then blame absolutely everything on Marxists, Bolsheviks, and Communists?! The only small splinter group within the Nazis that had any openly anti-capitalist beliefs was the Strasserists (who were kicked out of the Nazi party early in the 1930s with one of the Strasser brothers being killed off). The Strasserists opposed "finance capitalism" as a Jewish banker conspiracy, but did support "productive capitalism".

[AntiFascist2011]

@themanishere4 Hitler blamed Marxists, Bolsheviks, and Communists because they were rivals with a similar totalitarian ideology, the same way he turned on the Strasserists.

[themanishere4]

@AntiFascist2011 You seem to be another of this people who tries to call for a government less society and call other people followers of "statism", etc. You do know that if you live in any form of society you are statist, so unless your writing from your internet connection on an island where you live by yourself you make no sense! Also capitalism brought the world 1.6 billion deaths, 100 million dead Native Americans, 150 million dead Africans in Atlantic slave trade and on.

[AntiFascist2011]

@themanishere4 I'm not an anarchist so no, I accept there needs to be some government to protect citizens from crime and provide essential services such as education, healthcare, etc. However the state should be minimal. I'm a libertarian and am against all totalitarian systems. I'm no apologist for capitalism either.

[turbomango]

@themanishere4 Well, you certainly r consistent. All ur comments reflect ur a brainwashed moron. The interesting part is that u agree & acknowledge BOTH Fascism AND Communism are SOCIALISM -- essentially two sides of ONE COIN but admit it in a round-about indirect fashion. ur probably doing it subconsciously.. There's no misnomer on the Z in NAZI as SOCIALISM. And there is no misnomer in the D for Democratic Rep (East Germany). Democratic IS Socialism...Who can argue with an idiot though....

[themanishere4]

@turbomango None of the Nazis policies were "socialist", all academics agree that the term "national socialism" is a misnomer and that the Nazis hated actual socialists like the Bolsheviks and Marxists. And you are against democracy?! What is the imperialist US war machine going around the world bombing people to allegedly "spread" then?! What is needed is direct democracy, but the "founders" in the US (all slave owners of course) wanted to "protect" the "opulent minority"! Not actual minorities

[themanishere4]

@turbomango Also you rally against what you term "collectivism" and "statism"; then you must not belong to any group whatsoever in any form or you are a collectivist yourself! And if your against "statism" or what can better be called the social contract theory then I assume you somehow have internet connection on the deserted island where you live by yourself! There are some not completely absurd points for more "libertarian" positions, but you don't do them you just make silly insults.

[turbomango]

@themanishere4  YOU'RE A ZOMBIE> YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOUR BRAIN IS HARDWIRED FOR FAILURE AND DEPENDENCY. GO AWAY ZOMBIE. ENUF OF YOU/

[themanishere4]

So all peoples and societies are a mixture of individualism and collectivism. Also right wingers in the imperialist West are often the most vocally nationalistic militaristic jingoists (aka fascists) who love wearing "flag pins" and signing national anthems, etc. Again nationalism is fascism, whereas Communism is internationalism the complete opposite of fascism aka nationalism. Also in no way did Hitler or Mussolini ever call for the means of production to be democratized whatsoever.

[themanishere4]

As for those pro-capitalists who try to claim Hitler and Mussolini allegedly made people become "part of the state" or something, guess what all societies do that regardless of what their political or economic system is! All people/societies are a mix of individualism and collectivism. If you believe you have any person responsibility for yourself at all you can be termed individualist but also if you partake in any group whatsoever (like a nation, club, or even family, etc) you are collectivist

[themanishere4]

Nationalism and fascism are the same thing (unless one is going to claim they "love" their nation but don't believe it is allegedly "better" than others, i.e. the core of racism aka a core part of fascism). Also "Nationalist Socialist" was a misnomer and Hitler hated actual Marxists and Communists and went after them more than anybody else (and blamed them for everything).

[Ravengaurd6]

Fascism and Communism are technically the same on one thing:

if you're not calling the shots you're pretty much fucked. (in their historical context not their hypothetical)they are both forms of Hyper-statism that benefit the state(or whichever entity is exercising the uniform monopoly on legal force.) in communistic redistrubitive systems those who exercise the powers of seizure and allocation are held accountable by no one but their superiors. in fascism the single party only favors one group.

[hydromorphineIV]

By the way i quite like your analysis of the differences between Communism and Fascism. Good job on the video. By the way when i was in high school one rather dim witted history teacher used to call the nazis communist! lol. No wonder we have a whole generation of kids and young adults who know nothing about politics and don't care about them either when the people that are supposed to be teaching them know nothing of it themselves.

[crocve]

@hydromorphineIV That is wrong, but Hitler crated a new type of socialism. An indirect form of socialism where private poverty was in the hand of nazi party members. And thanks to that, the nazi regime was able to controll the economy, by fixing prices and wages.

That was one of the countributions of Ludwig Von Misses for economics. He explains this in it´s book "Planed Chaos". Also read the article "Why Nazism is socialist and why socialism is totalitarian".

[crocve]

Dude, you cant compare fascism and communism, when communism was never put to work. What existed was marxian socialism (a totalitarian dictactorship, where the state owns everything and there is no personal freedoms, you know, like in fascist regimes), which was supposed to be something which lasted for a very few time.

And if you compare fascism with marxist-leninist regimes, there is not many differences in the way they are organized and how they work.

[hydromorphineIV]

@crocve Your way off the mark there. The whole purpose of communism is that the proletarians own everything as opposed to capitalism where the few elites run everything and control everything. Fascism is much like capitalism except it has far more right wing, extreme nationalist and authoritarian policies. Hence the phrase fascism is capitalism in decay. As for Marxism-Leninism the idea is that the state withers away and becomes the people hence the state no longer exists.

[crocve]

@hydromorphineIV Blah, blah, blah. The proletarian does own anything. What communists that the regime is workers controlled dmeocracy is nothing more then a lie to hid the totalitarian and anti democratic nature of the regime.

It nothing all but semanthics and romanticized bullshit.

And fascism is not capitalist. Its corporatist. It is a different economic system. Is not either capitalism or socialism. I think you need to study more.

[ScottishSocialist1]

@crocve One thing I really can't stand on the internet is when people finish up their usually weak, poorly structured argument with "you should study more" or "go read a book". Especially when they've been spouting bullshit all day on my videos. Somehow I doubt you're a professor, or some kind of self-taught intellect on Socio-Economics and Marxist theory, so don't go around acting like you know it all. And no, Im not saying i know it all either, I really dont, but I know whats Bullshit atleast

[crocve]

@ScottishSocialist1 No Im not a professor. And I dont act like I know it all. But saying that fascism and marxism leninism are more different then simmilar its wrong.

[ScottishSocialist1]

@crocve well after much-o looking into it, and the creation of this very video, I came to the conclusion that they are very different. Superficially, yeah sure, I can see how some see similarities, but otherwise, I see fundemental differences.

[hydromorphineIV]

@crocve How does Marxism-Leninism fascism at all? Fascism is the absolute power of one ruler over a state approved capitalist system more or less. The goal of Marxism-Leninism is a classless society where the state withers away and becomes the people. How is that anything like fascism?

[crocve]

@hydromorphineIV I did not said they are equal. I said they are simillar totalitarian and opressive regimes.

And as I said, corporatism is the economic system of fascism, not cpaitalism.

[crocve]

@crocve When you talked about the definitons on wikipedia, you forgot to mention that fascism is anti-individualist, anit-liberal and anti-capitalist. It´s there in the fascism page.

Mussolini and Hitler criticized capitalism as much as they criticized marxism.

Mussolini created in it´s country corporatism, which is a basically nothing more then fake capitalism, because property was collectivelly managed by employers and workers, who where state directed.

[ScottishSocialist1]

@crocve you cant say i "forgot" to mantion anything. Those definitions were intentionally simple. And yes I know that fascism claims to be anti-capitalist with ts so-called "third way" ideals.

[crocve]

@ScottishSocialist1 It claims, and it is.

[hydromorphineIV]

@crocve In the future If you tell somebody they should study more i would suggest using spell check to be able to spell democracy right amoung the other words you misspelled horribly. You just made yourself look rather foolish there.

[crocve]

@hydromorphineIV Well it happens. You just can´t criticize a person like that because of a misspeling.

[DisciplineOfThought]

This video is INCREDIBLE, incredibly concise, VERY well spoken; and incredulously neutral and unbiased in approach. Excellent work Comrade!

I love the witty humour of your unscripted material, but I must say your premeditated videos are very well thought out; I truly hope to hear more of them!

[MisterScottishPerson]

@ZackAttack261 The scale is not just left or right. The scale is like a big cross: TOP= Authoritarian; BOTTOM= Libertarianism (Political Spectrum); LEFT= Communism; RIGHT= Neo-Liberalism (Economic Spectrum). If you were far-right but at the very bottom, of course you are looking for anarchy, but the same goes for being far left and at the bottom. Like Margaret Thatcher, for example, was far right and Authoritarian, both together means she was a fascist. So it is YOU who knows nothing!

[LeftistMetalFan]

Great video! Nothing to add; it pisses me off, when people say fascism and communism are the same or that "fascism is left wing"...

[MaoistRebelNews2]

Stupidity: The idea that white people are superior to everyone is the same as the idea everyone is equal.

[ScottishSocialist1]

@ZackAttack261 yeah... sure, ok.

[ScottishSocialist1]

@ZackAttack261 em... no, just. No.

[JasonDamisch]

In practice, all Communist countries have concentrated the wealth into the hands of the upper party members. How do you prevent this?

[rex2074]

it comes down to the distribution of wealth - class is removed when economic disparity is done away with - this is communism - fascism centralizes wealth - into the hands of the corporate / government machine -

[sergeantbatman]

''Nationalism itself is often made interchangeable with fascism''

then compare it with fascism and nazism

stopped watching.

That is until I hear, ''fascism is linked with the middle class while communism is linked with the working class'' while writing my comment

Typical silver spoon communist working class worship, do you really think the fascist uprising in Germany was primarily middle class?

What should I expect from someone with the name ''ScottishSocialist1''?

both ideologies suck btw.

[ScottishSocialist1]

@sergeantbatman well yes, fascism was mainly linked with the middle classes, as it was in Italy and Germany...

And didnt get your first comment - then compare is with fascism and nazism? Just saying how people, especially during stupid little debates on youtube, can brand people as any type of right-winger.

[sergeantbatman]

@ScottishSocialist1 Personally I can't see the link being exclusively or even the majority of fascists being middle class, while every socialist I have ever known has been part of the upper classes.

Another question, if fascism inherently has racism as part of the ideology, what did Mussolini's rise have to do with racism?

[sergeantbatman]

@sergeantbatman excuse me, I meant socialist and communist.

[ScottishSocialist1]

@sergeantbatman ok, so your saying that socialism and communism is made interchangeable? If so then yeah, i agree with u, although its not entirely correct to do so.

[BearWindAppleyard]

@ScottishSocialist1 I thought they were mainly working class, or at least nazism tried to appeal to the german working class. ??

[ScottishSocialist1]

@BearWindAppleyard tbh i thought that too originally, but they tended to appeal to the middle, lower-middle class.

[workergirls]

Long Live Marxism, Leninism and Maoism!!!

[adiosucks123]

One is business ownership of the state the other is worker ownership of the state.

Good video Comrade

VIVA LA COMMUNE!

[burningflag43]

great vid

[1988theLAW]

Great video Comrade! I hope more ppl get to see the video and the difference between the two ideologies, congrats as well on the length of the video i doubt i could of been so concise, keep it up.

[CaptainLecher]

Good Video, I learned a lot from this, Thx Comrade