Penn, I've never seen you this upset. I just wanted to give you a hug. You keep doing what you think is right Penn, because a lot of people agree that it is one of the right ways to go about things.
I think you just happened to find a weak point in your childhood idol. I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything, but I feel everyone's child idol is revealed as not absolutely perfect at one point or another. I know a couple of mine have already, and I'm not even 30 yet.
I'll bet it felt like being yelled at by the real Santa. I can see your point though. It kind of makes me think of religious people "loving the sinner and hating the sin." Ditto to Exvictus's remark about being a *good* influence on the misguided.
Though I doubt Penn himself will ever see this, I hope someone does....We've all heard the ridiculous thing our parents or others said about "don't be around this person or that person, because they're a bad influence". Well, why can't I be a GOOD influence on them?
The same holds true here..Those that watch Glenn Beck will only be exposed to what Penn has to say, IF HE'S THERE. If he's not, then they will only be exposed to what Glenn Beck has to say.
Good for you, Mr. Jillette. As a libertarian with a "spiritual" bent rather than a "religious" one, I guess I likely side with Glenn Beck's perspectives more frequently than I side with yours. But I must commend you on your recognition (and I hope you'll pardon the analogy) that a good missionary goes to where the sinners are. If Mr. Smothers feels *his* time is better spent "preaching to the choir", that's his decision.
Your exchanges with Mr. Beck are never less than thought-provoking.
The compliment: You're a real 'book-smart' guy. Always telling the truth is the first-step towards true-Humility. (+I heard the current Pope's brother, a Priest too, say, 'Only fools & children always tell the Truth.)
The truth (not said as an insult): You had/have the wrong idols. A person can be smart but NOT very wise. There is Justice at the end & Truth always wins out.
If someone loves God, they'll love ALL people. Liberals> hate a lot of people. I do NOT hear any real hate from you
The problem with idolizing people is that people are flawed, it's one thing I envy about the religious, that what they worship can never disappoint. In that vein, it sounds to me like Tommy buys into his own form of dogma. Sure, he might be an atheist, but if he refuses to listen to a message, if he refuses to focus on truth and reason, then he is just as close minded as they come. I'm sorry about the shitty experience though, you're a funny, smart guy, and I say fuck him, personally.
I interviewed Tommy Smothers once, he's a dick. Walk it off Penn. I may not agree with everything you say, mainly the atheism, but I respect you for speaking your mind and being tolerant and respectful of others opinions.
Libs going on Olbie, Maddow etc is just a 'preaching to the choir' self-congratulatory jerk-off. I don't agree with errrrrrrrthing Penn says, but he never shrinks from debate. And he actually figured out being somewhat civil to people who disagree with you is smart. Disappointed in Smothers...
The medium is the message, for those who believe that the medium itself is more important than the message. I think the message is the message, to those who can objectively view the bias that the medium projects. This just happens to be a trait not as common in people as one might hope.
Penn, keep doing what you do... I love it and it all makes sense to me. I also have people flip out at me, even people I consider friends, usually because I'm saying something that they don't want to hear, that's simply obvious (slightly different subject, I digest, but, just saying it's tough when someone you want to be friends with, flips out over something that seems reasonable).
@pennsays methinks Tommy is wroooong. If the left and the right just hide in their holes, nothing's going to get done; no progress will be made on anything.
I enjoy watching you on shows that neither you or I agree on it makes for good t.v. And I think its important to represent atheists not always being the bully. No matter how much you disagree with someone its always better to be the bigger person and allow people to have there own beliefs. Even if they are completely insane, wont shut the fuck up and listen. Or practice what they preach. keep up the good work Penn.
Glenn Beck is not a bad human being. He's just a guy with a set of ideas. Penn is another man with a set of ideas. The best thing for a free thinking society is to have as many opinions out there as possible.
The worst thing we could ever do in this country is to stop talking to each other, and simply hide in our little political clicks, and block out opposing thought.
Penn, you're a good man, and you're doing the right thing.
@singedcarry Totally in agreement. All ideas must be freely expressed that aren't an infringement on the rights of others. I don't know enough about Beck to say he's a good or bad person, but he's disingenuous. That bothers me a lot. When he cries those crocodile tears, it's like he's laughing at everyone watching him. But in the end, he's just a guy with whom I disagree about a lot of fundamentals, and I'm one of the last people who think that's okay.
@singedcarry Totally in agreement. All ideas must be freely expressed that aren't an infringement on the rights of others. I don't know enough about Beck to say he's a good or bad person, but he's disingenuous. That bothers me a lot. When he cries those crocodile tears, it's like he's laughing at everyone watching him. But in the end, he's just a guy with whom I disagree about a lot of fundamentals, and I'm one of the last people who think that's okay.
I think intuitively that a lot of good could come out of you being on Glenn Beck. Maybe you need to make sure you tell him he's completely crazy on the show so people get the message.
I can say this with all confidence... No one knows the truth. You might get cold fusion from monkey shit. But I wouldn't know. This is America and we all can do what ever we want to do as long as we dont hurt someone else.Doesn't sound like you hurt anyone. I dont always agree with you, but your still have an opinion. That does not make you right or wrong. Government should not be involved in, Sex, Lifestyle choices, Football, Baseball, Music, Child development, Family,I could go on. But Why ?
Penn Jillette has got to be one of the fairest political commentators I've ever seen. Even when I disagree with him, I can't help but respect his viewpoint.
Penn just has more balls than his idol. It's cool to simply refuse to interact with someone you dislike, but if you can go talk to that person and have an open, honest discussion without just going into a rage-fest, that proves that you really know yourself and know what you believe.
From a 30-year-young pup, I try to see the appeal of the Smothers Brothers. Perhaps it fails to reach me across the years, but from this, all I'm getting is demagogy and someone who steps onto box One, maybe Two, but isn't committed to taking action.
Though I doubt you'll read this, Penn, you've pushed the envelope as Bill Hicks and Lenny Bruce did; in many ways, you've superseded your idol. Keep kicking butt and taking names; there's a whole new generation that needs you, sorely. Thank you.
If you only present your views to those who already agree, then your message will never spread or influence change. Don't hesitate to share your opinion anywhere or with anyone - that's freedom of speech! "Care enough to confront".
Much respect Penn. "The message is the message" is the big point that I liked. It doesn't matter the medium. If a talk show host like Beck wants you to come on their show, then do it and get your message out to his viewers and maybe, just maybe, get some to convert. So long as you aren't being purposefully misleading to your host prior to your appearance about the content you're trying to deliver, then I find nothing wrong with being on Hitlers talk show. Kudos. Much respect.
I grew up loving Tommy Smothers too but that is nothing to do with saying what you need to say to the people that may need to know it. I can't say I watch Glen Beck but I know that some people that don't like him do watch him and if you send them a message that they may need to hear and they don't watch your show it may be the only time to hear it so you keep doing every show you can to get your point of view out there so people can hear it.
(cont from my prev comment) However, all that sad you have a very valid point, just cos you appear on his show does not mean you are colluding with Beck or agree with him and it is *extremely* important that folk like yourself, who can emphasise important points strongly and eruditely, go on lowlife scum like Beck's shows in order to illustrate to his poor, lost, ignorant flock the error of their fat arsed ways. These are the folk for whom *evolution* is growing an extra limb for the TV remote.
Hey Penn, both you and Smothers have valid points and stances, so where do you draw a line and find the 'right way'? There probably is no 'right way' when it comes to opinions...ya know what they say...opinions are like assholes etc. You should be well advised to heed Smothers words re Beck is evil and his show is bad news etc and yeah perhaps you going on there does help him in some small way re viewing figures, popularity and so on, and helping somebody like Beck is NEVER a good thing. (cont)
I disagree with a lot of Penn's views but agree with others. I agree with the message in this video. Personally, I've seen my friendships terminate, have been called names, and have been insulted for believing something different than some of my "friends." What is it with some people that they only want to surround themselves with others that mostly agree with them? It's a little ironic that those who seem to profess the most tolerance exhibit it the least.
Tommy was way wrong here and i dont get why any one would say glenn beck is evil its so stupid if you dont disagree with some one you have Dialogue with them you dont call them evil and shut them out
Bein on a show don't necessarily show affinity. You tell the truth and don't let the host get away with lies or cut your segment up to change your point. You should go on any old show you want along as you got enough control to not let them herd you.
I understand the anger for showing up on Glenn Beck. Most people, I feel, are angry at Glenn Beck because they've watched the show and seen the manipulative and intellectually dishonest tactics being used. His show represents a new low in the debate, for a lot of people. That's why I think going on his show can strike a nerve with people.
Penn, you are completely correct to go on shows with opposing views and goals than yours especially Glenn Becks. As long as you are true to your beliefs, confront others on theirs and respond to criticism you are furthering your cause for what I believe to be the good of humanity. Keep it up!
Don't feel bad for going on Glenn Beck. This is the problem with America (or at least one of them): everyone is convinced that the other side is just beyond reason and nobody ever talks to each other.
I'll bet Smothers wouldn't have been screaming at you if you had convinced Beck that he was wrong about gay rights; he would be grateful that you were willing to talk to him if that had happened.
Smothers' attitude here represents part of the problem: dialogue stops and screaming ensues.
You're not rationalizing. You're just holding up the idea of being humanly respectful and civil over being ideologically tribal and somehow pure.
Having an idol blast you is tough. I haven't been the same since Bowzer embarrassed the shit out of me when I was just trying to get change to play DigDug when I was 11 after ShaNaNa's show at the Carlton West in Green Bay, WI.
I watch and like both Glenn Beck and BS. I don't really think you're all that different. Beck may be religious but he doesn't use his show to promote his or any other religion. When religion is brought up on his show it is usually discussed from a secular context. If you do boycott his show you are tacitly agreeing with his critics that he is racist and evil and I hope you don't really think that about Beck.
if there is no God, what is the point of being super-scrupulous as you are being in this video about whether it was right or wrong to go on this Glen Beck show ? if there is no God , there is no right or wrong so why are you getting so bothered ? the reality is that nobody can really live consistently as if there is no God : "If there was no God, then there would be no atheists" G.K. Chesterton
There is no God, and there is no right, and there is no wrong. But I don't rely on the question of. "Is this right or is it wrong?" to tell me what I should and should not do. I rely on my moral compass, which is something most everyone has, God or not.
@nateman742 I know what you are saying but you are just a creature of your upbringing. If you were to take a few steps back and think through you position ( as philosophers tend to do ) you would come to the conclusion that "moral compasses" don't make any *real* sense without God . If you have an open mind i would recommend the debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig on the subject. You can find it on YouTube.
I used to be Baptist, but I began to question God and He either did not answer or guided me to where I am now. I have had an open mind but science has always provided an answer that is provable even without faith. In my mind, the pursuit of scientific advancement with the sole purpose of bettering the world and happiness of our fellow man is all of the moral compass any of us needs. Do unto others makes sense, and is in practice, whether or not it is the word of God.
amazing video Penn. Then again... all your videos are amazing. Btw, where did u get your glasses? :p its time for me to get new ones and i want those.
It's no rationalization, if someone doesn't stand up and try to tell the truth, the truth has lost all value. If you truly value truth Penn then you should keep telling it everywhere, not just where it makes some people happy. If your talking and only a minority hears it, and is happy, it isn't truth.
Hitler's suppression of free speech underlay all his other atrocities. The fear of open dissent kept people from speaking out, and let him do the things he did. If he'd had a talk show, on which you were reasonably free to disagree with him, it would not only be right to go on it, it would be a moral obligation.
I'm an atheist and a libertarian and I watch Glenn Beck. I disagree with him on a lot of issues, but I also agree with him on a lot of other issues. Glenn Beck is just more of a lightning rod than Olbermann, Letterman, Maher and the others. He's really not any worse.
Glen Beck's fans are in dire need of being exposed to someone of your viewpoint, able to articulate your thinking calmly and humbly. So long as Beck continues to let you state your views clearly without distorting them via editing or verbal games, I say you should continue. Tommy is entitiled to his opinion, but I think he is wrong.
The difference between a presidential show and a talk show is that the president takes action and the others only voice opinions.
Frankly, this man's emotional outburst says all I need to hear: You are clearly the more reasonable man.
This double standard is ripe. The left can fly off the handle at any moment: But we libertarians and conservatives have to be perfectly well behaved all the times. This Tommy sounds like a real asshole.
This double standard is amazing---you weren't comparing the quality of the two shows, just the fact that both were criticized by people who never watch it. Clearly, the guy has some emotional issues.
However, this double standard is amazing. Why is it okay for leftists to pull the rage card, but it is not okay for people who belong to the right wing?
I'm sorry, but fuck Tommy Smothers. The fact that you went on Glenn Beck doesn't make you right-wing. If you were fake crying with him, and brown nosing him? That would have been one thing. But that's not the case. And it would be shallow to only speak to people who agreed with you.
in the grand scope of things, Becks an asshole, but he was respectful to you when you were on his show, but that was probably only because he thinks you are on the same ground politically, if he thought you were an anarchist, communist, socialist, liberal, progressive, or a left libertarian, he would have been a total dick, but this smothers guy was way wrong to chew you out like that, don't say he was right
I don't think what anyone has to say is going to affect my faith in god. I do, however, like to hear what Penn has to say. I'm glad to know that even people who disagree on certain things can agree completely on others. Thank goodness the world isn't black and white.
@me5o I'm sorry to hear that a post saying positive things about people who share your beliefs (or lack there of) could get you so upset. I do think it's a good thing to not let other people affect my opinion. The concept of peer pressure applies here. Penn has even said that one shouldn't alter themselves because of things others say. There is no proof of a god, though there is no proof that there isn't. I was truly only intending to say positive things. Excuse my opinion, but I have one.
Ummm, quit projecting please. I'm not upset at all. I merely criticized your position and for good reason.
It's not about peer pressure. It's about evidence, facts and logical arguments. If those things have no effect on your beliefs, you're clearly a lost cause and I hope your children will be an improvement from that (if you ever reproduce).
Can't prove a negative. You can't prove fairies don't exist. This doesn't mean that believing in fairies is rational.
@me5o I'm sorry if you felt I was projecting. I hope this conversation could move forward in a more relaxed fashion. No need to bring personal insults to the table. Can there really be rational conversation about something with no proof for either side of the discussion? Rationality is governed by evidence, and there is no evidence for or against the existence of god, fairies etc... Ergo, aren't both sides irrational?
No, they aren't. You didn't describe my position just now. My position is we don't have any reason to believe there ARE fairies, gods or unicorns. This is NOT the same as saying I believe they don't exist. Important distinction.
It is not irrational to NOT believe in something that has no evidence. Obviously.
I'm capable of discussing this in an amicable fashion, but telling someone they're irrational will probably offend them no matter how nicely you put it.
@me5o Believing they don't exist, or not believing in them, there is still opinions about them. I think we can agree that pretty much every religion is, by definition, irrational. That's it's nature. But even having an opinion on something like fairies etc.. makes it irrational. The only way to avoid that is to not acknowledge it, even in a fictional form.
I'm sorry but that's crazy. Every opinion about fairies isn't irrational.
See, this is the game theists always try to play. They desperately want to equate nonbelief with belief so that even atheism is "just another religion". It doesn't work that way and it's a pathetic dodge to be honest.
Yes, all religions are irrational. That we can agree on.
My opinion isn't that they don't exist, it's that we have no reason to think they do exist. This is not "faith" or "irrational" no matter how you try to twist it.
Fact is, there is no evidence to support the existence of gods. Therefore, believing in gods is irrational.
It was something about nothing changing your beliefs.
In general I have a problem with people trying to portray faith as a virtue (not saying you did this). There's nothing virtuous or respectable about giving up critical thinking and just having faith. Especially when that faith leads to religious dogma.
@me5o Would you change your lack of belief because of what someone said? Or would you decide for yourself, and do what you feel is right for you?
Because someone is religious doesn't mean they lack critical thinking skills. Though some do lack those skills, I don't think it's mutually exclusive. I don't think anyone should push their beliefs or lack of beliefs on anyone. I couldn't be more serious when I say that my faith affects no one other than I, as I'm not affiliated with any sect.
Well,you always decide for yourself.That doesn't mean that arguments and evidence presented by others have no effect,quite the contrary.
I have to disagree there.If someone has religious faith,they either think there's evidence for their particular god or they simply take it on faith.Whichever it is,the person clearly does lack critical thinking skills.NOT saying they lack them in EVERY area(you actually seem like a bright fella btw),but in this case there's no doubt about it.
I really do respect Penn, I disagree with him on religion and some other things, but he seems respectful. He seems to want to bring everything to the world of ideas. He isn't like some Atheists or Christians for that matter who want to silence the other side. I think he is an honest and forthright person. Like I said I disagree with him but he seems like the kind of guy you wouldn't mind having a beer with. It may get heated but there is still that respect!
@legalbeagle26 Could you talk to me5o? lol. I think you and I are trying to say the same thing, and for some reason, acceptance, respect and compliments are upsetting to some.......
@pennsays You could look at it from a different point of view, YOUR idol cared enough about what you do to actually yell at you ;-). I think an important thing to realize here is just because we admire someone, and respect what it is they do in one field or possibly several, doesn't mean we are going to be in complete agreement with them on everything. There is a point where you have to go from admiring and perhaps emulating, to being your own person. I know you are, just keep that in mind.
Tommy Smothers is a true patriotic outsider and Beck is a Faux News puppet. and I don't blame Tommy Smothers for getting angry. I've seen Beck fake tear for ratings and he makes too much money for what he does and he doesn't want to share his wealth and good fortune with the less fortunate. Not every rich SOB out there deserves it.
How is the world going to change if we speak truth only to those who already know it? Sure, you can strengthen and lighten those about you in your truth, but you are leaving the rest of the world in ignorant darkness. Naomi Wolf was once criticized by Michael Medved for doing an interview on the Alex Jones show. Her response was that she would speak the truth to anyone who would listen, regardless of the audience. Speak your truth, and do so boldly regardless of your audience.
You are smart and articulate. You present coherent arguments to present your viewpoints.
As for Tommy Smothers, I don't know that he can present an argument that would outweigh your case. But those are his feelings and feelings aren't right or wrong. They just are.
What you saw was your idol being human.
Maybe a poster of him sitting on the toilet would be a more humorous and less emotional damaging reminder that he is just human.
Some of the people I consider to be awesomely brilliant have completely asinine political views. You've gotta accept the gift of their brilliance while understanding that they're still human and not necessarily someone you could 'hang' with. Glenn isn't always right but he does love this country and he does see where we're headed just as Libertarians do. Some day we'll wake up and ask why more people didn't question what was going on.
I think I understand the Tommy Smothers tirade about your Glen Beck appearances because I have a father who is one of those "all or nothing" kind of people as well. I think they feel comfortable ONLY engaging in someone who has the same opinion as them. I honestly don't think they can see it any other way besides the "them vs. Us". I love how you are versatile and don't conform to anything other than what YOU believe in. KUDOS
Penn going on Glenn Beck will open some people's minds to his point of view and will make other people just feel more strongly about their own opposing point of view by seeing someone they disagree with and they think "wow that guy's so wrong and I'm so right". But if their hearts are hardened you can't do shit really, some seeds fall on the wayside and get eaten by birds, some fall on the rocks and get scorched by the sun, some fall in good soil and grow.
@skiddlecrumms no being attracted to the same sex is a defect you genius. If everyone was gay, there wouldn't be any new people. The same way animals reproduce with opposite sex that how it works for us. Any other brain busters?
@chrisis138 Then what gene is it carried on? Why isn't it passed on by gay parents? Why hasn't this "defect" ever been observed by a real scientist. By that logic, dieting, veganism and vegetarianism are genetic disorders because you would starve in the wild for being a picky eater. Pride must be a genetic disorder too because it would cause you to take on challenges that you get you killed. Try to be a little less of a dumbass in the future please.
@skiddlecrumms oh really how about someone who is an albino, is that because they have albino parents? You're a tard please shut up. You can be born with any kind of defect that both parents don't have, you fuckin' retard. My logic says that being a queer (like you are) does not give life to new human beings, get it? sperm goes inside a vagina (like how you and I were born.) Pride? How about common fuckin' sense, homolover! Dieting? wtf are you talking about? way to kill me on that
@skiddlecrumms You're wrong again, the definition of defect clearly states what I was talking to you about. If the human race were homosexuals, then there would be no more new people. That's a defect of the circle of life and exsistence.
@chrisis138 No, I askes specifically what gene can be defective that would make someone gay. It may be a defect in the circle of life but you said it was genetic. You are stupid and are changing your story. Fuck off you stupid biggot.
@chrisis138 Because even if I did, you wouldn't do anything. It's easy to be a badass on the internet. And nigger? I am most likely more educated than you can ever hope to be, and you're just pissed because your idiotic pride can't handle it.
@skiddlecrumms Well maybe next time go to a real college instead of a community one because your argument about someone being gay isn't defective to the human race is ultra gay. I do have pride. Most straight men do but I guess you queers don't know what that's all about because you got mud on your helmets.
Among my biggest complaints about Fox News is that they too often do not present guests or commentators with opposing views or, more often, when they do they are inadequate straw-men. So if capable people who disagree don't go on these shows to keep things at least somewhat "fair and balanced," what happens?
That would be no problem for many on Fox and just a good excuse. "We asked so-and-so to represent the opposing view, but he or she declined."
Hey man, to me it's all about the truth. I can tell you're struggling with the truth and where it's being broadcasted. In the end it doesn't matter where it's coming from, so long as it's the truth. Honestly I don't know all that much about Beck or if he's using your thoughts as a joke or whatever to enhance his own ideas. Fact is you're preaching your own truth. Everyone is different, nobody has the same views, but people need to be exposed to all views so they can make up their own minds.
First think I'd like to say is "My heart is bleeding for you big guy. I can see and feel the angest your going through telling us this message...." That tells me something about your sencerity and well thats enough for me. Point me at him and I'll get my big sister to beat him up for yah... lol! Sometimes people are to damn idealistic for anyones good. When people hear they can think and chose for them self. I would got to hell and sell Ice if nessacery. You still LOVE him.. SO Keep on truck'in.
With all due respect to Tommy Smothers, frankly, he sounds like one of the people you were talking about in the opening of this video. The kind that would join a letter writing campaign without watching the content. Other than that, I would imagine that was a tough place to be. It would be like a parent being disappointed in you. I certainly don't envy where you were at that moment.
hey man, go on whatever show you can and speak the truth as you know it man. you cant be demonized for doing you. glenn beck is shit, but u being outspoken atheist, being pro-gay rights and saying that shit is great because your intellegent and people can see that so you speaking up is always a good thing.
I saw it, Penn. He wasn't complimenting you to set you up for a "punch in the face" he said it show he was expected more out of you. And Penn YOU are making sound like you only went on Beck once. You are a repeat guest adding to Beck's views. You don't tell the truth on there. You tell ur opinion on there.
I WATCH BS. Agree w/ most of ur shows. On the show You make it seem like you would have nothing to do w/ ppl you don't agree w/ and always call them assholes.
I saw a little bit of that special recently, and tommy smothers was pretty funny. Could you tell showtime to play more shit, I'm really getting tired of quantum of solace.
Awww... I relate because I like to debate for the slight chance that I or someone else is going to learn something and change for the better. I recently had someone I looked up to freak out about second hand smoke (preaching the same mindless stuff these stupid commercials put out) it got nasty and although I made many valid arguments it got nowhere. And all I was left with was disappointment. It sucks.
Jack White wrote a song called Do. I could never know how anyone feels when he becomes more skilled than his idols. I'm guessing that you do. I bet it's confusing. Jack has his hand and his mind open....he still receives the world around him and communicates. So do you. You feel it- you're alive and you truly communicate. I choose to watch you.
Thank you for your honest feelings. I have the hardest time reconciling the fact that people become so full of hate over others beliefs. I watched that show a couple times to try and discern if it was for real or a joke, because it felt bad. I could tell more from your discomfort than Tommy's demeanor, until the point where he began to show real frustration over his feelings. Truly horrible moment for you, I recently had a similar experience, very painful. Hope you both are now better.
Penn I can understand that it hurts your feelings and you are visibly upset. But you have to realize that is how liberals are. if you don't think they way they do, you are a racist, or Hitler, or some other horrible thing. Beck is a libertarian like you are. he doesn't have a problem with Gays in the aspect that government should be involved with their lives...vis a vis marriage. Sure he is a mormon, and you did a great job on his show. The point is, don't let them get you down. We love u
Life is the pursuit of truth. We are ALL searching. To silence the debate is to stop our progress toward that meaning. I am a hard-right Christian conservative, and I love Penn. This guy is one of the last intelligent celebrities in the country.
Good video; I really like your stuff a lot. But I do got to point out that you've already been on Letterman, which contradicts what you said at 5:17 when you said "I wouldn't do Letterman"
Here's your appearance:
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Unless you meant you wouldn't do Letterman from a political standpoint; then I understand.
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The important issue here is that if you were to go onto a show by Hitler, certain topics would be off limits, and your message would be curtailed from reaching its most meaningful points by censorship. So long as you are 100% free to speak the truth as you see it, keep going back to Glenn's show. The second he doesn't want you on anymore, he has realized he has shut down honest debate, and you should publicly disavow him. Until then, keep him as a friend, and keep talking to him. Truth out!
I strongly agree with Penn on this one. If he limited himself to media appearances on shows that were as enlightened as he is, he would only be able to be interviewed by John Stossel and Jan Helfeld, and that would not get the messages of enlightenment and libertarianism out to the world.
Keep kicking ass, Penn. Just know this: there are millions and millions of people who agree with you who are used to seeing Beck butcher the ideas of individual freedom. Set the man straight, ASAP!
The part of this no one seems to be commenting on is being yelled at by your hero. I cannot imagine what this would be like. there are people who I have looked up to all my life who I know disagree with me. Do I lie to those people, or be honest and maybe lose there respect? It's nice to know others wrestle with this as well.
Man, I love Penn. One of the most truth-seeking and honest person I've ever seen. Funny, straight-forward, and humble. Anyway, I agree with his points. People need to see as many sides of the story as possible. It's not good for people...especially groups to not see anyone else's perspective. Penn is just trying to help decrease ignorance and increase awareness.
People (like the ones who watch those shows) tend to remain in their echo-chamber and not seek to hear differing views. The only hope is for someone as articulate as you to give them a mind-altering experience.
Penn, I've never seen you this upset. I just wanted to give you a hug. You keep doing what you think is right Penn, because a lot of people agree that it is one of the right ways to go about things.
I think you just happened to find a weak point in your childhood idol. I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything, but I feel everyone's child idol is revealed as not absolutely perfect at one point or another. I know a couple of mine have already, and I'm not even 30 yet.
Keep on, Penn.
Wonocva15 4 days ago
I'll bet it felt like being yelled at by the real Santa. I can see your point though. It kind of makes me think of religious people "loving the sinner and hating the sin." Ditto to Exvictus's remark about being a *good* influence on the misguided.
TwiPrime 1 week ago
Though I doubt Penn himself will ever see this, I hope someone does....We've all heard the ridiculous thing our parents or others said about "don't be around this person or that person, because they're a bad influence". Well, why can't I be a GOOD influence on them?
The same holds true here..Those that watch Glenn Beck will only be exposed to what Penn has to say, IF HE'S THERE. If he's not, then they will only be exposed to what Glenn Beck has to say.
Exvictus 1 week ago
Good for you, Mr. Jillette. As a libertarian with a "spiritual" bent rather than a "religious" one, I guess I likely side with Glenn Beck's perspectives more frequently than I side with yours. But I must commend you on your recognition (and I hope you'll pardon the analogy) that a good missionary goes to where the sinners are. If Mr. Smothers feels *his* time is better spent "preaching to the choir", that's his decision.
Your exchanges with Mr. Beck are never less than thought-provoking.
ADeCosa59 3 weeks ago
The compliment: You're a real 'book-smart' guy. Always telling the truth is the first-step towards true-Humility. (+I heard the current Pope's brother, a Priest too, say, 'Only fools & children always tell the Truth.)
The truth (not said as an insult): You had/have the wrong idols. A person can be smart but NOT very wise. There is Justice at the end & Truth always wins out.
If someone loves God, they'll love ALL people. Liberals> hate a lot of people. I do NOT hear any real hate from you
1023471965 3 weeks ago
keep going on Beck. f what other people think
matthewmaraphoto 1 month ago
This is Penn as his most thoughtful, and I really appreciate this atypical take of Penn being here.
anarok 1 month ago 2
woah penn break down
Aciddaggerr 1 month ago
The problem with idolizing people is that people are flawed, it's one thing I envy about the religious, that what they worship can never disappoint. In that vein, it sounds to me like Tommy buys into his own form of dogma. Sure, he might be an atheist, but if he refuses to listen to a message, if he refuses to focus on truth and reason, then he is just as close minded as they come. I'm sorry about the shitty experience though, you're a funny, smart guy, and I say fuck him, personally.
JoeThreeler 1 month ago
yo penn whered you come up with that noise at the beggining and end of all your vids? pacific garden mission chicao, IL???
DaBossk 1 month ago
Penn was on real time a couple weeks ago. Wasn't he?
theocdogking 2 months ago
did I see penn on bill maher a few weeks ago? i know this is old, but wasnt he?
outofstep222 2 months ago
tommy is in the wrong here. plain and simple.
t0xb0x 3 months ago
I interviewed Tommy Smothers once, he's a dick. Walk it off Penn. I may not agree with everything you say, mainly the atheism, but I respect you for speaking your mind and being tolerant and respectful of others opinions.
Anonywriter 3 months ago
Libs going on Olbie, Maddow etc is just a 'preaching to the choir' self-congratulatory jerk-off. I don't agree with errrrrrrrthing Penn says, but he never shrinks from debate. And he actually figured out being somewhat civil to people who disagree with you is smart. Disappointed in Smothers...
lockwoodisafaggot 3 months ago
The medium is the message, for those who believe that the medium itself is more important than the message. I think the message is the message, to those who can objectively view the bias that the medium projects. This just happens to be a trait not as common in people as one might hope.
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I can only imagine what it be like to be yelled at by you and Lev Yilmaz :,
theheckwithit 3 months ago
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theheckwithit 3 months ago
Penn, keep doing what you do... I love it and it all makes sense to me. I also have people flip out at me, even people I consider friends, usually because I'm saying something that they don't want to hear, that's simply obvious (slightly different subject, I digest, but, just saying it's tough when someone you want to be friends with, flips out over something that seems reasonable).
drstrangelove09 3 months ago
@pennsays methinks Tommy is wroooong. If the left and the right just hide in their holes, nothing's going to get done; no progress will be made on anything.
Boonenoob 3 months ago
If you only went on shows that you agree with, you'd only be on your own. And that's true for everyone.
jtropeano 3 months ago
I enjoy watching you on shows that neither you or I agree on it makes for good t.v. And I think its important to represent atheists not always being the bully. No matter how much you disagree with someone its always better to be the bigger person and allow people to have there own beliefs. Even if they are completely insane, wont shut the fuck up and listen. Or practice what they preach. keep up the good work Penn.
tugger 3 months ago
Glenn Beck is not a bad human being. He's just a guy with a set of ideas. Penn is another man with a set of ideas. The best thing for a free thinking society is to have as many opinions out there as possible.
The worst thing we could ever do in this country is to stop talking to each other, and simply hide in our little political clicks, and block out opposing thought.
Penn, you're a good man, and you're doing the right thing.
singedcarry 4 months ago
@singedcarry Totally in agreement. All ideas must be freely expressed that aren't an infringement on the rights of others. I don't know enough about Beck to say he's a good or bad person, but he's disingenuous. That bothers me a lot. When he cries those crocodile tears, it's like he's laughing at everyone watching him. But in the end, he's just a guy with whom I disagree about a lot of fundamentals, and I'm one of the last people who think that's okay.
Wulfiebaby 4 months ago
@singedcarry Totally in agreement. All ideas must be freely expressed that aren't an infringement on the rights of others. I don't know enough about Beck to say he's a good or bad person, but he's disingenuous. That bothers me a lot. When he cries those crocodile tears, it's like he's laughing at everyone watching him. But in the end, he's just a guy with whom I disagree about a lot of fundamentals, and I'm one of the last people who think that's okay.
Wulfiebaby 4 months ago
man i am really liking penn. im not an atheist but i like hearing him talk. he sounds like a very good man.
hootieti 4 months ago 2
I think intuitively that a lot of good could come out of you being on Glenn Beck. Maybe you need to make sure you tell him he's completely crazy on the show so people get the message.
CheekyVimto08 4 months ago
@CheekyVimto08 If you ever watched him on GB you'd see that about 80% of the time they are in sync.
singedcarry 4 months ago
When first the Fox the shaggy Lion saw
A while he stood congealed with reverend awe
But at his next access he grew so bold
He durst a parley with the Lion hold
Moral:
The slave thus trembles at the Monarch's State
But made familiar, thinks himself as Great.
needstoregister 4 months ago
I can say this with all confidence... No one knows the truth. You might get cold fusion from monkey shit. But I wouldn't know. This is America and we all can do what ever we want to do as long as we dont hurt someone else.Doesn't sound like you hurt anyone. I dont always agree with you, but your still have an opinion. That does not make you right or wrong. Government should not be involved in, Sex, Lifestyle choices, Football, Baseball, Music, Child development, Family,I could go on. But Why ?
lastpatriot4America 4 months ago
Penn Jillette has got to be one of the fairest political commentators I've ever seen. Even when I disagree with him, I can't help but respect his viewpoint.
meteryam 5 months ago 4
Penn just has more balls than his idol. It's cool to simply refuse to interact with someone you dislike, but if you can go talk to that person and have an open, honest discussion without just going into a rage-fest, that proves that you really know yourself and know what you believe.
lavalizard3 5 months ago
I agree with the other commenter, you've superseded your idol.
FantasticBob7000 5 months ago
Tommy Smothers sounds like an asshole.
stuntmanmike37 5 months ago
From a 30-year-young pup, I try to see the appeal of the Smothers Brothers. Perhaps it fails to reach me across the years, but from this, all I'm getting is demagogy and someone who steps onto box One, maybe Two, but isn't committed to taking action.
Though I doubt you'll read this, Penn, you've pushed the envelope as Bill Hicks and Lenny Bruce did; in many ways, you've superseded your idol. Keep kicking butt and taking names; there's a whole new generation that needs you, sorely. Thank you.
Rurne 5 months ago
If you only present your views to those who already agree, then your message will never spread or influence change. Don't hesitate to share your opinion anywhere or with anyone - that's freedom of speech! "Care enough to confront".
mrb567 5 months ago 3
I have a lot of respect for this kind of introspection, but I'm sorry... Tommy Smothers is wrong.
supahsekzy 5 months ago
Much respect Penn. "The message is the message" is the big point that I liked. It doesn't matter the medium. If a talk show host like Beck wants you to come on their show, then do it and get your message out to his viewers and maybe, just maybe, get some to convert. So long as you aren't being purposefully misleading to your host prior to your appearance about the content you're trying to deliver, then I find nothing wrong with being on Hitlers talk show. Kudos. Much respect.
crimiusXIII 5 months ago
I so admire Penn's honesty and doubt
macktruk13 5 months ago
For some reason the video doesn't start :l
SuperPoxuz 5 months ago
I hope you're right, Penn. I hope, but do not know for sure if the message alone beats the brainwash.
BeBoBli 5 months ago
It is pretty crappy though when you appraoch someone in public that you grew up watching on television and they tell you to go away
romans52345 5 months ago
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Sumoto999 5 months ago
I grew up loving Tommy Smothers too but that is nothing to do with saying what you need to say to the people that may need to know it. I can't say I watch Glen Beck but I know that some people that don't like him do watch him and if you send them a message that they may need to hear and they don't watch your show it may be the only time to hear it so you keep doing every show you can to get your point of view out there so people can hear it.
bigboxofstuff21 6 months ago
(cont from my prev comment) However, all that sad you have a very valid point, just cos you appear on his show does not mean you are colluding with Beck or agree with him and it is *extremely* important that folk like yourself, who can emphasise important points strongly and eruditely, go on lowlife scum like Beck's shows in order to illustrate to his poor, lost, ignorant flock the error of their fat arsed ways. These are the folk for whom *evolution* is growing an extra limb for the TV remote.
cuntchops23 6 months ago
Hey Penn, both you and Smothers have valid points and stances, so where do you draw a line and find the 'right way'? There probably is no 'right way' when it comes to opinions...ya know what they say...opinions are like assholes etc. You should be well advised to heed Smothers words re Beck is evil and his show is bad news etc and yeah perhaps you going on there does help him in some small way re viewing figures, popularity and so on, and helping somebody like Beck is NEVER a good thing. (cont)
cuntchops23 6 months ago
I disagree with a lot of Penn's views but agree with others. I agree with the message in this video. Personally, I've seen my friendships terminate, have been called names, and have been insulted for believing something different than some of my "friends." What is it with some people that they only want to surround themselves with others that mostly agree with them? It's a little ironic that those who seem to profess the most tolerance exhibit it the least.
kephaisrock 6 months ago
Tommy was way wrong here and i dont get why any one would say glenn beck is evil its so stupid if you dont disagree with some one you have Dialogue with them you dont call them evil and shut them out
chrismcdonald16602 6 months ago
Tommy Smothers is a long time crackpot. Why would anyone care what he thinks?
wrjamescom 6 months ago
Bein on a show don't necessarily show affinity. You tell the truth and don't let the host get away with lies or cut your segment up to change your point. You should go on any old show you want along as you got enough control to not let them herd you.
TaterGumfries 6 months ago
I understand the anger for showing up on Glenn Beck. Most people, I feel, are angry at Glenn Beck because they've watched the show and seen the manipulative and intellectually dishonest tactics being used. His show represents a new low in the debate, for a lot of people. That's why I think going on his show can strike a nerve with people.
ThwartedVillainy 6 months ago
Penn, you are completely correct to go on shows with opposing views and goals than yours especially Glenn Becks. As long as you are true to your beliefs, confront others on theirs and respond to criticism you are furthering your cause for what I believe to be the good of humanity. Keep it up!
danielmalpollitt 6 months ago
as soon as someone mentions or compares the opposite argumentor to a nazi or hitler, they automatically lose the argument.
NinjaKhaos74 6 months ago
Well, the YoYo Man is WRONG! I would have a problem with someone yelling at me and then get all snugly towards me for pictures.
liliodine 7 months ago
Don't feel bad for going on Glenn Beck. This is the problem with America (or at least one of them): everyone is convinced that the other side is just beyond reason and nobody ever talks to each other.
I'll bet Smothers wouldn't have been screaming at you if you had convinced Beck that he was wrong about gay rights; he would be grateful that you were willing to talk to him if that had happened.
Smothers' attitude here represents part of the problem: dialogue stops and screaming ensues.
asheradensein 7 months ago
You're not rationalizing. You're just holding up the idea of being humanly respectful and civil over being ideologically tribal and somehow pure.
Having an idol blast you is tough. I haven't been the same since Bowzer embarrassed the shit out of me when I was just trying to get change to play DigDug when I was 11 after ShaNaNa's show at the Carlton West in Green Bay, WI.
eikonoplast 7 months ago
I watch and like both Glenn Beck and BS. I don't really think you're all that different. Beck may be religious but he doesn't use his show to promote his or any other religion. When religion is brought up on his show it is usually discussed from a secular context. If you do boycott his show you are tacitly agreeing with his critics that he is racist and evil and I hope you don't really think that about Beck.
Duke1839 7 months ago
if there is no God, what is the point of being super-scrupulous as you are being in this video about whether it was right or wrong to go on this Glen Beck show ? if there is no God , there is no right or wrong so why are you getting so bothered ? the reality is that nobody can really live consistently as if there is no God : "If there was no God, then there would be no atheists" G.K. Chesterton
celal777 7 months ago
@celal777
There is no God, and there is no right, and there is no wrong. But I don't rely on the question of. "Is this right or is it wrong?" to tell me what I should and should not do. I rely on my moral compass, which is something most everyone has, God or not.
nateman742 7 months ago
@nateman742 I know what you are saying but you are just a creature of your upbringing. If you were to take a few steps back and think through you position ( as philosophers tend to do ) you would come to the conclusion that "moral compasses" don't make any *real* sense without God . If you have an open mind i would recommend the debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig on the subject. You can find it on YouTube.
celal777 7 months ago
@celal777
I used to be Baptist, but I began to question God and He either did not answer or guided me to where I am now. I have had an open mind but science has always provided an answer that is provable even without faith. In my mind, the pursuit of scientific advancement with the sole purpose of bettering the world and happiness of our fellow man is all of the moral compass any of us needs. Do unto others makes sense, and is in practice, whether or not it is the word of God.
nateman742 6 months ago
amazing video Penn. Then again... all your videos are amazing. Btw, where did u get your glasses? :p its time for me to get new ones and i want those.
Thealmightysei 8 months ago
It's no rationalization, if someone doesn't stand up and try to tell the truth, the truth has lost all value. If you truly value truth Penn then you should keep telling it everywhere, not just where it makes some people happy. If your talking and only a minority hears it, and is happy, it isn't truth.
HighPriestofLemuria 8 months ago
Very fat.
SeventhSun 8 months ago
No Penn. He is not right. I realize he is your hero, but you should never be upset because you chose to use Glenn Beck as a Medium for your message.
His speech was bad speech. He is wrong.
It is frustrating to see our heroes are people...
Fwibos 8 months ago
No Penn. He is not right. I realize he is your hero, but you should never be upset because you chose to use Glenn Beck as a Medium for your message.
Fwibos 8 months ago
On the air? Is there footage anywhere?
Hitler's suppression of free speech underlay all his other atrocities. The fear of open dissent kept people from speaking out, and let him do the things he did. If he'd had a talk show, on which you were reasonably free to disagree with him, it would not only be right to go on it, it would be a moral obligation.
IoEstasCedonta 8 months ago
what?
ethanNESfanboy117 9 months ago
I'm an atheist and a libertarian and I watch Glenn Beck. I disagree with him on a lot of issues, but I also agree with him on a lot of other issues. Glenn Beck is just more of a lightning rod than Olbermann, Letterman, Maher and the others. He's really not any worse.
supercrazylegs1 9 months ago
Glen Beck's fans are in dire need of being exposed to someone of your viewpoint, able to articulate your thinking calmly and humbly. So long as Beck continues to let you state your views clearly without distorting them via editing or verbal games, I say you should continue. Tommy is entitiled to his opinion, but I think he is wrong.
WalkaCrookedLine 9 months ago
I heard Bill Cosby punched Tommy Smothers at the Playboy Mansion.
ledawg1138 11 months ago
You're alright Penn. The message is still the message.
If Tommy Smothers is wrong, he's wrong. He's human. He can be wrong. So what? You're not him. You know the score.
And one more thing: As an atheist, you should be totally fine with yet another "idol" going down in flames if you get me.
Go on the Glenn Beck show and whateverthehell other show you want and give 'em Penn times ten!
SuperDachshund 11 months ago 23
The undertaker.
l1vefordaweekend 11 months ago
The difference between a presidential show and a talk show is that the president takes action and the others only voice opinions.
Frankly, this man's emotional outburst says all I need to hear: You are clearly the more reasonable man.
This double standard is ripe. The left can fly off the handle at any moment: But we libertarians and conservatives have to be perfectly well behaved all the times. This Tommy sounds like a real asshole.
Hypatia1951 1 year ago
This double standard is amazing---you weren't comparing the quality of the two shows, just the fact that both were criticized by people who never watch it. Clearly, the guy has some emotional issues.
However, this double standard is amazing. Why is it okay for leftists to pull the rage card, but it is not okay for people who belong to the right wing?
Hypatia1951 1 year ago
Tommy sounds like the worst sort of ideologue.
Leatherbubba 1 year ago 18
Tommy Smuthers was wrong.
Period.
Serpent257 1 year ago
I'm sorry, but fuck Tommy Smothers. The fact that you went on Glenn Beck doesn't make you right-wing. If you were fake crying with him, and brown nosing him? That would have been one thing. But that's not the case. And it would be shallow to only speak to people who agreed with you.
FiveofHearts1 1 year ago
anyone else feel a bit awkward between 3:34 - 3:43 ?
tkdkid100 1 year ago
in the grand scope of things, Becks an asshole, but he was respectful to you when you were on his show, but that was probably only because he thinks you are on the same ground politically, if he thought you were an anarchist, communist, socialist, liberal, progressive, or a left libertarian, he would have been a total dick, but this smothers guy was way wrong to chew you out like that, don't say he was right
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AthenaLailaify 1 year ago
I don't think what anyone has to say is going to affect my faith in god. I do, however, like to hear what Penn has to say. I'm glad to know that even people who disagree on certain things can agree completely on others. Thank goodness the world isn't black and white.
aaabbbeee 1 year ago
@aaabbbeee
Yeah, nothing will shake your faith. Your faith which isn't based on evidence. And you think that's a good thing?
Like they say, if logical arguments worked on religious people, they wouldn't be religious.
me5o 1 year ago
@me5o I'm sorry to hear that a post saying positive things about people who share your beliefs (or lack there of) could get you so upset. I do think it's a good thing to not let other people affect my opinion. The concept of peer pressure applies here. Penn has even said that one shouldn't alter themselves because of things others say. There is no proof of a god, though there is no proof that there isn't. I was truly only intending to say positive things. Excuse my opinion, but I have one.
aaabbbeee 1 year ago
@aaabbbeee
Ummm, quit projecting please. I'm not upset at all. I merely criticized your position and for good reason.
It's not about peer pressure. It's about evidence, facts and logical arguments. If those things have no effect on your beliefs, you're clearly a lost cause and I hope your children will be an improvement from that (if you ever reproduce).
Can't prove a negative. You can't prove fairies don't exist. This doesn't mean that believing in fairies is rational.
me5o 1 year ago
@me5o I'm sorry if you felt I was projecting. I hope this conversation could move forward in a more relaxed fashion. No need to bring personal insults to the table. Can there really be rational conversation about something with no proof for either side of the discussion? Rationality is governed by evidence, and there is no evidence for or against the existence of god, fairies etc... Ergo, aren't both sides irrational?
aaabbbeee 1 year ago
@aaabbbeee
No, they aren't. You didn't describe my position just now. My position is we don't have any reason to believe there ARE fairies, gods or unicorns. This is NOT the same as saying I believe they don't exist. Important distinction.
It is not irrational to NOT believe in something that has no evidence. Obviously.
I'm capable of discussing this in an amicable fashion, but telling someone they're irrational will probably offend them no matter how nicely you put it.
me5o 1 year ago
@me5o Believing they don't exist, or not believing in them, there is still opinions about them. I think we can agree that pretty much every religion is, by definition, irrational. That's it's nature. But even having an opinion on something like fairies etc.. makes it irrational. The only way to avoid that is to not acknowledge it, even in a fictional form.
aaabbbeee 1 year ago
@aaabbbeee
I'm sorry but that's crazy. Every opinion about fairies isn't irrational.
See, this is the game theists always try to play. They desperately want to equate nonbelief with belief so that even atheism is "just another religion". It doesn't work that way and it's a pathetic dodge to be honest.
Yes, all religions are irrational. That we can agree on.
me5o 1 year ago
@me5o Is your opinion about god, fairies etc.. based on evidence and fact?
aaabbbeee 1 year ago
@aaabbbeee
Yes. Do you remember my opinion?
My opinion isn't that they don't exist, it's that we have no reason to think they do exist. This is not "faith" or "irrational" no matter how you try to twist it.
Fact is, there is no evidence to support the existence of gods. Therefore, believing in gods is irrational.
me5o 1 year ago
@me5o Hmm, I see your point. What was it I said that made you want to comment?
aaabbbeee 1 year ago
@aaabbbeee
It was something about nothing changing your beliefs.
In general I have a problem with people trying to portray faith as a virtue (not saying you did this). There's nothing virtuous or respectable about giving up critical thinking and just having faith. Especially when that faith leads to religious dogma.
me5o 1 year ago
@me5o Would you change your lack of belief because of what someone said? Or would you decide for yourself, and do what you feel is right for you?
Because someone is religious doesn't mean they lack critical thinking skills. Though some do lack those skills, I don't think it's mutually exclusive. I don't think anyone should push their beliefs or lack of beliefs on anyone. I couldn't be more serious when I say that my faith affects no one other than I, as I'm not affiliated with any sect.
aaabbbeee 1 year ago
@aaabbbeee
Well,you always decide for yourself.That doesn't mean that arguments and evidence presented by others have no effect,quite the contrary.
I have to disagree there.If someone has religious faith,they either think there's evidence for their particular god or they simply take it on faith.Whichever it is,the person clearly does lack critical thinking skills.NOT saying they lack them in EVERY area(you actually seem like a bright fella btw),but in this case there's no doubt about it.
me5o 1 year ago
I really do respect Penn, I disagree with him on religion and some other things, but he seems respectful. He seems to want to bring everything to the world of ideas. He isn't like some Atheists or Christians for that matter who want to silence the other side. I think he is an honest and forthright person. Like I said I disagree with him but he seems like the kind of guy you wouldn't mind having a beer with. It may get heated but there is still that respect!
legalbeagle26 1 year ago
@legalbeagle26 Could you talk to me5o? lol. I think you and I are trying to say the same thing, and for some reason, acceptance, respect and compliments are upsetting to some.......
aaabbbeee 1 year ago
wow, he was on the verge of realizing that him going on glenn beck was giving him fuel for his hate.
zacheryandersen 1 year ago
@pennsays You could look at it from a different point of view, YOUR idol cared enough about what you do to actually yell at you ;-). I think an important thing to realize here is just because we admire someone, and respect what it is they do in one field or possibly several, doesn't mean we are going to be in complete agreement with them on everything. There is a point where you have to go from admiring and perhaps emulating, to being your own person. I know you are, just keep that in mind.
Ammdar 1 year ago
Tommy Smothers is a true patriotic outsider and Beck is a Faux News puppet. and I don't blame Tommy Smothers for getting angry. I've seen Beck fake tear for ratings and he makes too much money for what he does and he doesn't want to share his wealth and good fortune with the less fortunate. Not every rich SOB out there deserves it.
TheDano1947 1 year ago
Penn is a closet fag.
Gravitymann 1 year ago
Time for Penn to find a new hero.
LibertarianParadise 1 year ago
Screw both the communist Smothers Brothers.
KenMacMillan 1 year ago
Where can I find a clip of the outburst?
mwtillotson 1 year ago
whats up with ur forhead ?Thumbs Up If You Agree
xXViedoReaperXx 1 year ago
The Penn is mightier than the sword, because he has a gun.
TheAmericanMirror 1 year ago
Penn getting yelled at by his hero really affected him. You can see it in his face. Bum deal for Penn Jillette.
samh09 1 year ago
Presidency is Bullsh!t.
dubya3cdotcom 1 year ago
Cosby likens them likely. Didn't Cosby punch one of them out for calling him a racial hypocrite.
dubya3cdotcom 1 year ago
How is the world going to change if we speak truth only to those who already know it? Sure, you can strengthen and lighten those about you in your truth, but you are leaving the rest of the world in ignorant darkness. Naomi Wolf was once criticized by Michael Medved for doing an interview on the Alex Jones show. Her response was that she would speak the truth to anyone who would listen, regardless of the audience. Speak your truth, and do so boldly regardless of your audience.
Captain077 1 year ago
You are smart and articulate. You present coherent arguments to present your viewpoints.
As for Tommy Smothers, I don't know that he can present an argument that would outweigh your case. But those are his feelings and feelings aren't right or wrong. They just are.
What you saw was your idol being human.
Maybe a poster of him sitting on the toilet would be a more humorous and less emotional damaging reminder that he is just human.
dexteronline2003 1 year ago
Some of the people I consider to be awesomely brilliant have completely asinine political views. You've gotta accept the gift of their brilliance while understanding that they're still human and not necessarily someone you could 'hang' with. Glenn isn't always right but he does love this country and he does see where we're headed just as Libertarians do. Some day we'll wake up and ask why more people didn't question what was going on.
bryede 1 year ago
I think I understand the Tommy Smothers tirade about your Glen Beck appearances because I have a father who is one of those "all or nothing" kind of people as well. I think they feel comfortable ONLY engaging in someone who has the same opinion as them. I honestly don't think they can see it any other way besides the "them vs. Us". I love how you are versatile and don't conform to anything other than what YOU believe in. KUDOS
sdhadg 1 year ago
Penn going on Glenn Beck will open some people's minds to his point of view and will make other people just feel more strongly about their own opposing point of view by seeing someone they disagree with and they think "wow that guy's so wrong and I'm so right". But if their hearts are hardened you can't do shit really, some seeds fall on the wayside and get eaten by birds, some fall on the rocks and get scorched by the sun, some fall in good soil and grow.
stfwho 1 year ago
Pro Gay is like pro genetic disorders.
chrisis138 1 year ago
@chrisis138 You are obviously retarded.
skiddlecrumms 1 year ago
@skiddlecrumms no being attracted to the same sex is a defect you genius. If everyone was gay, there wouldn't be any new people. The same way animals reproduce with opposite sex that how it works for us. Any other brain busters?
chrisis138 1 year ago
@chrisis138 Then what gene is it carried on? Why isn't it passed on by gay parents? Why hasn't this "defect" ever been observed by a real scientist. By that logic, dieting, veganism and vegetarianism are genetic disorders because you would starve in the wild for being a picky eater. Pride must be a genetic disorder too because it would cause you to take on challenges that you get you killed. Try to be a little less of a dumbass in the future please.
skiddlecrumms 1 year ago
@skiddlecrumms oh really how about someone who is an albino, is that because they have albino parents? You're a tard please shut up. You can be born with any kind of defect that both parents don't have, you fuckin' retard. My logic says that being a queer (like you are) does not give life to new human beings, get it? sperm goes inside a vagina (like how you and I were born.) Pride? How about common fuckin' sense, homolover! Dieting? wtf are you talking about? way to kill me on that
chrisis138 1 year ago
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@chrisis138 You still didn't answer my question.
skiddlecrumms 1 year ago
@skiddlecrumms de·fect (dfkt, d-fkt) KEY
NOUN:
The lack of something necessary or desirable for completion or perfection; a deficiency: a visual defect.
An imperfection that causes inadequacy or failure; a shortcoming.
chrisis138 1 year ago
@chrisis138 Defining defect doesn't answer any of the questions. You have no clue what you're talking about and you are falling back on that.
skiddlecrumms 1 year ago
@skiddlecrumms You're wrong again, the definition of defect clearly states what I was talking to you about. If the human race were homosexuals, then there would be no more new people. That's a defect of the circle of life and exsistence.
chrisis138 1 year ago
@chrisis138 No, I askes specifically what gene can be defective that would make someone gay. It may be a defect in the circle of life but you said it was genetic. You are stupid and are changing your story. Fuck off you stupid biggot.
skiddlecrumms 1 year ago
@skiddlecrumms okay it's not genetic but it is a defect. Are you gay now? Matter of fact why don't you give me your address, nigger?
chrisis138 1 year ago
@chrisis138 Because even if I did, you wouldn't do anything. It's easy to be a badass on the internet. And nigger? I am most likely more educated than you can ever hope to be, and you're just pissed because your idiotic pride can't handle it.
skiddlecrumms 1 year ago
@skiddlecrumms Well maybe next time go to a real college instead of a community one because your argument about someone being gay isn't defective to the human race is ultra gay. I do have pride. Most straight men do but I guess you queers don't know what that's all about because you got mud on your helmets.
chrisis138 1 year ago
@chrisis138 Whatever helps you sleep at night kid
skiddlecrumms 1 year ago
did you know that there is an advisory "viewer discretion advised" on your stufffffff?
shit, that means yer a success. ya bud, smothers bro. and beck? beck is
not really a morman, he is a pretender and a joke. ya, that would hurt. i love
the smothers bros. love you too. but i cant blame tommy for being upset.
you are great. you have a massively fair mind and heart. keep in mind that
the brothers and i are old. older than you. were a little cranky. love you penn.
jumbobobcleo 1 year ago
Godwin's Law in action :P.
sparkkle2 1 year ago
Among my biggest complaints about Fox News is that they too often do not present guests or commentators with opposing views or, more often, when they do they are inadequate straw-men. So if capable people who disagree don't go on these shows to keep things at least somewhat "fair and balanced," what happens?
That would be no problem for many on Fox and just a good excuse. "We asked so-and-so to represent the opposing view, but he or she declined."
And the Hitler comparison is rather extreme.
gillianorley 1 year ago
Hey man, to me it's all about the truth. I can tell you're struggling with the truth and where it's being broadcasted. In the end it doesn't matter where it's coming from, so long as it's the truth. Honestly I don't know all that much about Beck or if he's using your thoughts as a joke or whatever to enhance his own ideas. Fact is you're preaching your own truth. Everyone is different, nobody has the same views, but people need to be exposed to all views so they can make up their own minds.
macready99 1 year ago
tommy is a left wing loon.if you have to agree with everything the host says.there is not one show you can go on.it is absurd.
cassidy99ful 1 year ago
Penn, if it makes you feel any better, I'd feel the same way if you yelled at me. You're my Tommy Smothers dude.
TheMarkNessMonster 1 year ago
First think I'd like to say is "My heart is bleeding for you big guy. I can see and feel the angest your going through telling us this message...." That tells me something about your sencerity and well thats enough for me. Point me at him and I'll get my big sister to beat him up for yah... lol! Sometimes people are to damn idealistic for anyones good. When people hear they can think and chose for them self. I would got to hell and sell Ice if nessacery. You still LOVE him.. SO Keep on truck'in.
ubernatch 1 year ago
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This guy is trying very hard not to cry.
bamboosa 1 year ago
With all due respect to Tommy Smothers, frankly, he sounds like one of the people you were talking about in the opening of this video. The kind that would join a letter writing campaign without watching the content. Other than that, I would imagine that was a tough place to be. It would be like a parent being disappointed in you. I certainly don't envy where you were at that moment.
James76255 1 year ago
just shows that smothers is and always will be a booger eating liberal. Hes nuts and a loon. Penn ur my hero
goldsmithstudent 1 year ago
i really hate how closed-minded the liberals are.
theyre just as bad, if not worse than the conservatives.
deathonaburrito2 1 year ago
democrats: the party of hate.
deathonaburrito2 1 year ago 2
aww i love the vids. cant believe they stopped
neverjanay 1 year ago
No offence to Tommy, but it sounds like you were being more rational than "your hero".
arch571332 1 year ago 2
hey man, go on whatever show you can and speak the truth as you know it man. you cant be demonized for doing you. glenn beck is shit, but u being outspoken atheist, being pro-gay rights and saying that shit is great because your intellegent and people can see that so you speaking up is always a good thing.
SelfAware1 1 year ago
I saw it, Penn. He wasn't complimenting you to set you up for a "punch in the face" he said it show he was expected more out of you. And Penn YOU are making sound like you only went on Beck once. You are a repeat guest adding to Beck's views. You don't tell the truth on there. You tell ur opinion on there.
I WATCH BS. Agree w/ most of ur shows. On the show You make it seem like you would have nothing to do w/ ppl you don't agree w/ and always call them assholes.
TheMindofRobert 1 year ago
I saw a little bit of that special recently, and tommy smothers was pretty funny. Could you tell showtime to play more shit, I'm really getting tired of quantum of solace.
catbuffalo 1 year ago
Awww... I relate because I like to debate for the slight chance that I or someone else is going to learn something and change for the better. I recently had someone I looked up to freak out about second hand smoke (preaching the same mindless stuff these stupid commercials put out) it got nasty and although I made many valid arguments it got nowhere. And all I was left with was disappointment. It sucks.
MakeupInTheory 1 year ago
Jack White wrote a song called Do. I could never know how anyone feels when he becomes more skilled than his idols. I'm guessing that you do. I bet it's confusing. Jack has his hand and his mind open....he still receives the world around him and communicates. So do you. You feel it- you're alive and you truly communicate. I choose to watch you.
and then my idols walk next to me
i look up at them they fade away
it's a destruction of a mystery
the more i listen to what they say
MeyerG4Indiana 1 year ago
Thank you for your honest feelings. I have the hardest time reconciling the fact that people become so full of hate over others beliefs. I watched that show a couple times to try and discern if it was for real or a joke, because it felt bad. I could tell more from your discomfort than Tommy's demeanor, until the point where he began to show real frustration over his feelings. Truly horrible moment for you, I recently had a similar experience, very painful. Hope you both are now better.
Kabinks 1 year ago
Piss on him Penn. Another athiest Conservative here telling you to keep up the good work!
RockwellScalesInc 1 year ago
Penn I can understand that it hurts your feelings and you are visibly upset. But you have to realize that is how liberals are. if you don't think they way they do, you are a racist, or Hitler, or some other horrible thing. Beck is a libertarian like you are. he doesn't have a problem with Gays in the aspect that government should be involved with their lives...vis a vis marriage. Sure he is a mormon, and you did a great job on his show. The point is, don't let them get you down. We love u
wxman34 1 year ago
What a rough time to have a personal hero yell at you, had to be a real bummer. I feel for you.
stevecarmello 1 year ago
Maybe not THAT close to Penn's face. I don't think he's quite eye-to-eye with him.
JoeDeceiver 1 year ago
Uhh.., He did Bill Mahr didn't he?
eNRGy27 1 year ago
@eNRGy27 He was being hypothetical.
wxman34 1 year ago
Life is the pursuit of truth. We are ALL searching. To silence the debate is to stop our progress toward that meaning. I am a hard-right Christian conservative, and I love Penn. This guy is one of the last intelligent celebrities in the country.
GodotheInfantry 1 year ago
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Penn you are completely right.
darnokish 1 year ago
Good video; I really like your stuff a lot. But I do got to point out that you've already been on Letterman, which contradicts what you said at 5:17 when you said "I wouldn't do Letterman"
Here's your appearance:
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Unless you meant you wouldn't do Letterman from a political standpoint; then I understand.
ZMOONCHILD 1 year ago
Hi Penn fans. Penn Says videos have been discontinued, so you won't be seeing any new content on here. You can check out our Profile on our Channel Page for more info. We'll still be checking in, so hope to keep chatting with you all! Thanks!
pennsays 1 year ago 5
@pennsays if you really believe glenn beck is hitler.you are a moron.
cassidy99ful 1 year ago
Penn, you are amazing.
AYcheBAY 1 year ago
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Penn Jillette is a right wing sack of shit. Fuck him. I wish Tommy Smothers had punched in Jillette's deformed face.
JamesRobertSmith 1 year ago
@JamesRobertSmith Typical liberal douche.
wxman34 1 year ago
@JamesRobertSmith Lol, I know this is 4 months old, but unless Tommy starts juicing, he would get his ass kicked.
dubya68 1 year ago
The important issue here is that if you were to go onto a show by Hitler, certain topics would be off limits, and your message would be curtailed from reaching its most meaningful points by censorship. So long as you are 100% free to speak the truth as you see it, keep going back to Glenn's show. The second he doesn't want you on anymore, he has realized he has shut down honest debate, and you should publicly disavow him. Until then, keep him as a friend, and keep talking to him. Truth out!
libertarianjury 1 year ago 18
@libertarianjury reminds me of the talk show host at Last Supper being asked the time travel question.
dubya3cdotcom 1 year ago
I strongly agree with Penn on this one. If he limited himself to media appearances on shows that were as enlightened as he is, he would only be able to be interviewed by John Stossel and Jan Helfeld, and that would not get the messages of enlightenment and libertarianism out to the world.
Keep kicking ass, Penn. Just know this: there are millions and millions of people who agree with you who are used to seeing Beck butcher the ideas of individual freedom. Set the man straight, ASAP!
libertarianjury 1 year ago
Here's the follow up: /watch?v=aR0F8mveNr8
pennsays 1 year ago
The part of this no one seems to be commenting on is being yelled at by your hero. I cannot imagine what this would be like. there are people who I have looked up to all my life who I know disagree with me. Do I lie to those people, or be honest and maybe lose there respect? It's nice to know others wrestle with this as well.
JakeJax 1 year ago
keep to your guns man.
BARE456 1 year ago
Man, I love Penn. One of the most truth-seeking and honest person I've ever seen. Funny, straight-forward, and humble. Anyway, I agree with his points. People need to see as many sides of the story as possible. It's not good for people...especially groups to not see anyone else's perspective. Penn is just trying to help decrease ignorance and increase awareness.
Illyria23alyssa 1 year ago 3
I loved you on Glenn Beck! That's coming from someone who really hates beck.
mike23984 1 year ago 2
Penn, keep going on those shows!
People (like the ones who watch those shows) tend to remain in their echo-chamber and not seek to hear differing views. The only hope is for someone as articulate as you to give them a mind-altering experience.
bruinjogger 2 years ago 2