Ralph Nader - The Negative Effects of "Free" Trade

[heavym3tal]

God Nader is such an ignorant douche-fag! Try studying history next time, before you open your mouth. BTW the Chevy Corvair is safe at any speed!

[thebenjithompson]

BOGUS. Sounds like experimental public policy theory rather than true economic law. Trade creates wealth!!

[JIdrummer]

@capt251978

Aye. Everything you've said there, I agree with. Also peculiar that you'd comment on something I said over two years ago ;)

[Threequalseven]

Want proof that free-market economies don't work? Easy! Just look around you. The vast majority of people on this planet live under a free-market capitalist system. And yet, the vast majority of people on this planet are living IN POVERTY!

[superlucci]

@Threequalseven We do not live even close to a free market economy. You dont even know what a free market is.

The FREE in Free market means FREE from government intervention, and the closest thing we had to that was the 19th century when government intervention was low

[Threequalseven]

@SuperSelfreliance: The only way you can have a free trade society is if the people (you and me) are stripped of all our basic human rights. No minimum wage, no labor laws, no environmental standards whatsoever. Free trade means that companies are free to do whatever they want, because you are completely powerless. And free trade is indeed the ONLY way to create monopolies in a market economy. What's sad is that people like you are the authors and cheerleaders for your own children's enslavement

[superlucci]

@Threequalseven "The only way you can have a free trade society is if the people (you and me) are stripped of all our basic human rights."

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

"No minimum wage, no labor laws, no environmental standards whatsoever."

Min wage, labor laws are not human rights. There is a case for 3rd party effects.

" Free trade means that companies are free to do whatever they want, because you are completely powerless."

Wrong. You can choose to work there or not.

[superlucci]

@Threequalseven "And free trade is indeed the ONLY way to create monopolies in a market economy."

Free trade by its own definition cannot create monopolies. There is nothing stopping anybody from competing against a big business. Competition lowers prices.

[MrHamncheez]

NADER IS A RACIST. He thinks a rich, fat, american is more deserving of a job than a mexican, simply because of the fact that they were born south of a line in the arizona sand.

[dfg93353]

Dirge987 you are blinded. Free trade is the cause of perpetual worldwide poverty

[Dirge987]

Nader is smart, but even smart people can skip over half the world around them and the history that founded it. Free trade benefits both the people making the goods and the people receiving the goods. You only need to look at the increasing wealth and standard of living in China, India, and South Africa over the past decades. Government didn't do that, the market did.

[SuperSelfreliance]

Nader is a thief who has the most incompetent view of the world.Free trade is the greatest resistance to monopolies also free trade is also based on private ownership and the basic right of each person to be free to trade with whomever they choose to.Voltaire said I may dissaprove of what you have to say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.Nader may dissaprove with free trade or you may do(the public) but these individuals have as their own property their right to free trade

[glovisy]

"Democratic societies have progressed by subordinating the profiteering priorities of companies to higher health standards and the abolition of child labor"

You can hear him thinking backwards, can't you?

We DIDN'T progress by saying no to profiteering and saying yes to standards, regulations, and rules. We progressed by letting free markets (ie voluntary cooperation) generate wealth for us until we could afford to invest in "green" and give children a work-free childhood, stuff we want anyway

[Healing6arts9]

From the next state then to the next country. And so on and so on until All the salmon are gone and no one can fish???? Is that fair??? Is that Freedom?? 

WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE

Look all around you!Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are looking at the ruin of Corporatism!!!!

[Healing6arts9]

Let me get this straight??? A company gets to use our commons. Our courts, our road ways, our educated public, our markets, our copyright laws, our air, water, forests, our power and infrastructure.  To build themselves up then can at a drop of the hat, just move all their jobs over seas???? Without any loyalty to our workers or our enviroment??? That is pure tyranny!!!!

So I I have a fishing company I can just go from one state to the other and wipe out all the salmons runs and just move

[brandog334]

The amount of the world population living on less than 1 dollar per day has decreased dramatically in recent years because of off-shoring of jobs from the industrialized world. To us their wages may seem deplorable but it is much better than their other choices and these workers compete heavily to get the jobs.

[Beadbud5000]

I hear you. My statement is referring to the accusatory Nader excusing. You are correct in your assessment of "Board Room Corporate" ways of viewing things (data).

[Rhal95]

I grew up disliking "Darth Nader". But after reading "The Shock Doctrine" ( written with bias, but nevertheless full of hard facts. ) I have to agree with this interview. "Free Trade" has never worked as promised unless it was such that the people supported it. Too often such agreements have taken from the middle class and given to the rich.

[hoodoo961]

It just makes no sense, how can people have a fundamental, philosophical, objection to free trade? Its the free exchange of goods and services across national boundaries. Why would we not want that? We trade with each other, why not the rest of the world? Why would we want the government telling us who we can and can't exchange goods and services with? If there are problems with the system, fine, lets fix them, but people make it sound like we should scrap free trade totally, and thats nuts.

[TheSmalldudeBIGwords]

@hoodoo961 uhh fair trade causes a little boost in the price so that producers can get a little extra but this encourages overproduction and the price is lowered so yeaa it is kinda bad

[hoodoo961]

If the price increases, more will be supplied, and the price will come back down. That is not bad its how markets work. But anyway, I was discussing free trade, not fair trade.

[7CATALYST25]

@hoodoo961 I don't know, maybe because it comes at the expense of people starving, and all the disease and political instability that brings with it...

[hoodoo961]

@7CATALYST25 That is not true. Simply not true. Are living standards in India and China better or worse because of their integration into world markets? Are living standards in Thailand and Indonesia better or worse? Increased starvation? Are you kidding? You are one of those "activists" who would rather see third world people starving in the countryside than working for low wages in a factory- a big step up the economic ladder.

[Teadon86]

It's not about forbidding markets to prosper it's about the market taking its share of responsibility. Read a book.

[hoodoo961]

@Teadon86 I have read more books about economics than you, that you can be assured of. "Markets taking their share of responsibility" what the hell is that even supposed to mean? Your kind of drivel would leave millions upon millions in even worse poverty. Think globalization doesn't help workers in third world nations? Look at South Korea, Japan, China, ect, where millions have escaped rural poverty. The process of industrialization takes time- read a book.

[ntn1987]

free trade = consumers win

[GPEGEMGTM3]

@ntn1987 for how much longer?

[hahahaspam]

Did he make a single argument in this whole video?

[j97hou6]

The vast majority of americans love being in poverty, love getting killed and maimed in pointless wars (I support just wars: wars to liberate animals from factory farms and fur farms, people from North Korea, etc) Absolutely nothing physically stopped the shit called americans from hitting a button for Nader in the voting booth.

[NatureLegalized]

GO NADER 2008

[JIdrummer]

Nader's the man who deserves to be president, if only the people of America would let him debate with the others...

[NatureLegalized]

It ain't the people it's the CPD and

Lame Stream media.

[JIdrummer]

That would also be true...Dang media.

[NatureLegalized]

Ditto :)

[capt251978]

@JIdrummer The age of debate is long dead. This day and age, none of the major candiates are so ridgedly stuck to their idealogical stance that even when they hear something they know to be true, if it is contrary to their beliefs....... they will not bend. And the sad truth is that the American people are the same.

[rumpelstillskin65]

GO NADER 2008

[Beadbud5000]

You can google the election results for 2000 and 2004. It is right there

[tiove]

my politics lecturer does not like this guy he says he was the reason bush won the election when he (nader) entered dont know if he is talking about the first or second elction

[Beadbud5000]

Your lecturer is wrong. Flat out wrong. Check the stats! The democrats fucked themselves.

[tiove]

ok cool can you give me the info?

[Rhal95]

@Beadbud5000 Actually he's partly right. Most of the time when you hear the term "free enterprise" or "free trade", you are usually looking at something written in a board room, not by the representatives of the people. And the stats will always look good, because they look at corporate profits ( sometimes exclusively) while the middle class is undermined. Eventually, multinationals are going to run out of markets to sell to as the middle class get undermined in the consuming markets too.

[NatureLegalized]

Don't listen to that spoiler crappola, get

the story from the vids & hear Ralph give

the scoop.

[JIdrummer]

Technically, you are correct. Nader's supporters took the attention away from other candidates which gave Bush the upper hand. But Nader still deserves the right to run!