Prior to the surge by the protesters, these three were all standing on the police side of the phoneboxes. When the surge came, they moved quickly with the police and into the protesters.He then comes round the back of the telephone boxes (nearest to the camera), where he joins two other characters, almost the same outfit -dark hoody and light coloured peaked baseball cap and another in a burgundy hoody.
i saw agent provocateurs hanging about on a rooftop when i was following the love police through the west end - they looked as though they had just walked out of the nearest branch of millets - very smart you didn't convince me of your anarchist credentials - i don't know any anarchists who look like that
& as if real anarchists would operate in broad daylight with so many cameras & coppers around - they'd come out at night when all the cops are in the cop shop
@jonnythrombosis23 'real' anarchists do operate in broad daylight, and slight daylight, and in the evening, then through the night, and into the morning, as several hundred did on the 26th
@MASSIF101 don't think those people were even anarchists, they certainly weren't Ukuncut. Their actions were very naive (politically as well as personally), and they clearly lack the creativity to act constructively, or even originally. It appears that they have done exactly what the authorities wanted of them, and smeared Ukuncut in the process. They also fuelled an atmosphere in which many innocent people were later brutalised by police. Hope they're satisfied with these accomplishments!
@MofotheMook I'm sure some of them are completely satisfied, I quote neil faulkner "radicalism disconnected from the mass is, in the end, no radicalism at all, but mere self-indulgence". I was with the bloc when it did all these destructive things, there is no way some of those kids were agent provocateurs. they were anarchists, just not very clever ones.
also, various media outlets smeared UKuncut by not noting the difference between the groups. that's the media's fault, not the anarchist's.
@MASSIF101 I agree that the media is culpable, but what I've taken to calling the pop anarchist contingent has played directly into theirs and the authorities' hands. There's clearly a large section of young population who have become radicalised without having any direction or coherent comprehension of the terms they bandy about so easily. In a way I feel sorry for them, but I'm also annoyed and frustrated by their actions, which have only strengthened those who seek to discredit all activism.
@MofotheMook tru dat, and on this issue the only way forward is to better disseminate the core ideas and values of the revolution so more of these angry youth can better target their actions. No matter how many windows you smash or bins you burn property damage will never bring down capitalism, it also means we have to replace more bins and windows, which is a hassle.
@MASSIF101 yeah i was with the black bloc and they at least mainly were not agent provocateurs, from this video you can see him show someone something and get let through with a "pat on the back" but I showed a police officer evidence that i was under sixteen in a kettle and he let me through immedieadly, pushing my back in a way that could have looked similar to this
The footage on the channel is linked to the Police officer you are looking for... visit youtube / seedingvision -
seedingvision 11 months ago
I BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING FOOTAGE RELATES TO THE UNDERCOVER POLICE OFFICER IN QUESTION PLEASE VIEW YOUTUBE / SEEDINGVISION FOR THE FOOTAGE
thisisecocide 11 months ago
@thisisecocide hm not sure it does, but it's a great video anyway!! Looks like you had a ton on fun!
MofotheMook 11 months ago
@MofotheMook - Just saw it on @seedingvision and passing it on..goodluck
thisisecocide 11 months ago
Prior to the surge by the protesters, these three were all standing on the police side of the phoneboxes. When the surge came, they moved quickly with the police and into the protesters.He then comes round the back of the telephone boxes (nearest to the camera), where he joins two other characters, almost the same outfit -dark hoody and light coloured peaked baseball cap and another in a burgundy hoody.
rushinstate 11 months ago
search for 'Undercover Police at Student Protests? (29 Jan 2011)'
LucaBoulders 11 months ago
bbc: weapon of mass deception
pebbleface2 11 months ago
Their are at least two of them, watch the one at the bottom phone box
shring7 11 months ago
I saw this too, immediately thought he was a police provocateur.
PhantaJisto 11 months ago
i saw agent provocateurs hanging about on a rooftop when i was following the love police through the west end - they looked as though they had just walked out of the nearest branch of millets - very smart you didn't convince me of your anarchist credentials - i don't know any anarchists who look like that
& as if real anarchists would operate in broad daylight with so many cameras & coppers around - they'd come out at night when all the cops are in the cop shop
watching porn (we know ....
jonnythrombosis23 11 months ago
@jonnythrombosis23 'real' anarchists do operate in broad daylight, and slight daylight, and in the evening, then through the night, and into the morning, as several hundred did on the 26th
MASSIF101 11 months ago
@MASSIF101 don't think those people were even anarchists, they certainly weren't Ukuncut. Their actions were very naive (politically as well as personally), and they clearly lack the creativity to act constructively, or even originally. It appears that they have done exactly what the authorities wanted of them, and smeared Ukuncut in the process. They also fuelled an atmosphere in which many innocent people were later brutalised by police. Hope they're satisfied with these accomplishments!
MofotheMook 11 months ago
@MofotheMook I'm sure some of them are completely satisfied, I quote neil faulkner "radicalism disconnected from the mass is, in the end, no radicalism at all, but mere self-indulgence". I was with the bloc when it did all these destructive things, there is no way some of those kids were agent provocateurs. they were anarchists, just not very clever ones.
also, various media outlets smeared UKuncut by not noting the difference between the groups. that's the media's fault, not the anarchist's.
MASSIF101 11 months ago
@MASSIF101 I agree that the media is culpable, but what I've taken to calling the pop anarchist contingent has played directly into theirs and the authorities' hands. There's clearly a large section of young population who have become radicalised without having any direction or coherent comprehension of the terms they bandy about so easily. In a way I feel sorry for them, but I'm also annoyed and frustrated by their actions, which have only strengthened those who seek to discredit all activism.
MofotheMook 11 months ago
@MofotheMook tru dat, and on this issue the only way forward is to better disseminate the core ideas and values of the revolution so more of these angry youth can better target their actions. No matter how many windows you smash or bins you burn property damage will never bring down capitalism, it also means we have to replace more bins and windows, which is a hassle.
MASSIF101 11 months ago
@MASSIF101 yeah i was with the black bloc and they at least mainly were not agent provocateurs, from this video you can see him show someone something and get let through with a "pat on the back" but I showed a police officer evidence that i was under sixteen in a kettle and he let me through immedieadly, pushing my back in a way that could have looked similar to this
RawrProdWhat 11 months ago