This guy is a laughable joke. This is what blacks put forward as intelligent? He is like a cartoon character. It is so obvious that he has simply memorized some big words and in his child like mind, he thinks he is coming off as intelligent. I just don't get blacks.
@rhm51 the joke is on you.....Dr West has been in the fight since the 1970's.......do some research before you spout ignorant statements...you don't agree him, fine...to attack personally, childish!!!!
@kevcas73 There is nothing childish about criticizing his laughable practice of memorizing some big words. In his pitiful mind, that passes for intelligence. He just isn't smart enough to realize how ridculous his behavior makes him appear. He may have been "in the fight" since the 70's, but he has been a goof since the 70's. The man is a joke.
@rhm51 It is not the words but the sentiments expressed that are important.
You may htink that the black speaking tradition is inferior because of our "comical" use of big words. But
I ask you: Did Cornel speak one lie? One? We don't care about looking professional, we care about speaking the truth whether comforting or not iconoclastic or not. THAT is what you don't get about blacks.
does anyone know of another long vid of one of west's lectures/talks on similar themes but he gets REALLY animated and worked up about the wall street bankers. I def watched it on youtube before, but can't find it now. He says things like "...we got national security problems in harlem, we got national security problems on the south side of chicago..."
Dr West is talking about powerful against powerless. He is talking about putting the interests of "the least of these" in front of the most powerful among us. In many cases that is white but in the case of our President it is not and he has gone after Obama on many occasion for this very reason. Economic growth by means of corporate priorities is not going to grow the middle class is certainly not going to lift those that are impoverished out........
HIs whole speech and all his speeches are predicated on black Americans holding some kind of moral high ground in 2007 and whites needing to feel guilty about what is implicit in his speech - continued white racism. When he speaks to black audiences he preaches with them and when he speaks to white audiences he preaches at them. To me this undercuts his worth. This idea that whites today are somehow responsible for slavery but blacks not for gang violence today holds no water; it's either or.
there is continued white racism today against minorities. that is not even arguable. to say he preaches differently to audiences based on there color is simply wrong. point me in the direction of where one black leader says gangs are not responsible for gang violence.............
@kevcas73 The civil rights argument was against institutional racism - that is gone. There will always be racism. Saying it exists mostly on the part of whites compared to everybody else is a feel good lie. I meant al blacksl responsible for gangs in the sense all whites are responsible for slavery. With gangs it's individuals, with slavery it's white skin. I have seen video of West talking to black and white audiences and the attitude is us and them, the exact thing you criticize whites for.
@JamesErvin100 we have an oversimplification of racism and a glossing over of whites roles in it 2010......there have been monumental changes in many circles within this society but I am not prescribing to anything you say.
You should be ashame of yourself, West is about unity, i'm for separation. This is what I always say "whites are going to hate you no matter how nice you are" so give them (whites) hell.
Oh and by the way your comparison "sucks" because whites created gangs and are the biggest gang.
@SuperProphet100 Dear Superbitch, wait, hold on, I have to sneeze. I'm celebrating white history millenium. It's so pervasive that we don't need posters on bulletin boards to remind us we did something, we use the moon. We left graffiti on it and everything, out of reach of even affirmative action. Yowl over that my main bitch.
Dear fuckboy, learn how to put a sentence together & speak correct so I can understand you, you illiterate moron.
I have no idea what you're trying to say but I and other intelligent people know that "man nor white so-called man never been to the moon"...never! So stop watching TV & YouTube for information you freak with a Black fettish. Education rocks.
@SuperProphet100 white so-called man is still above black so-called baboon. How does it feel to look at the moon that dominates the night sky and never for one minute be able to forget your inferiority. We shoulda left some grafitti on it, like a giant portrait of Doris Day.
@JamesErvin100 that kind of deep rooted hate and exclusivity is sad. why you would get into a ignorant, 5th grade like argument on a page that has Dr. West is ridiculous......why don't you go to a Rush Limbaugh video and post that garbage there..........I'm sure there are plenty Donald Trump videos you can put that nonsense.......
The dogma of white suprmacy lives on no thanks to scholars like JamesErvin........
Whites created gangs and whites have the biggest gang (the mob, politicians, the military among others), so stop whining and take some responsibility, whites are living today off the bones of others. Now your race my not mean anything to you but what was done to my race by whites has to be dealt with, because it still goes on. Blacks would never say anything to whites if y'all stop destroying everything blacks build for ourselves and our leaders, do the study it's a fact.
"Martin Luther King Jr. was one voice in a wave in an ocean; that said I'm not only willing to live and die for an ideal, I want to learn how to die while I'm alive. So I can live life more intensely and abundantly." - Cornel West
"The examined life is painful" -Malcolm X
"I've known no crime but to understand beyond my means." -Niccolo Zuppelli
I am all for the First Amendment, so I don't care if this West feller spews his hate. But shame on you for tuning in. I may be wrong, but West is a racist, is he not?
what speech did yo listen to? are you not aware of the vicious legacy of white supremacy and male supremacy in this country? the poor get more poor and the rich get richer, still in 2010. Who are we talking about when you discuss the poor? We are talking about brown, black and other minorities.....
It is too easy to run to the race card my friend. You know Dr. West as much as I know you........very little. grow up and out then speak.
Just to be clear, you are saying that I do not have a constitutional right to walk down the street with my swastika T-shirt. You are saying, it seems, that I should be murdered on the spot. Is that correct?
@Sammyjackson1488 "I am all for the First Amendment, so I don't care if this West feller spews his hate. But shame on you for tuning in. I may be wrong, but West is a racist, is he not?" What hate spews from Cornel West mouth please sir? What speech were you listening too?
I hope Dr West and others continue to preach the gospel of inclusion and understanding, love and peace. Diatribes of hate from the right and far right, disguised as sincere caring is a smoke screen of hate and lies. Racism is alive and well in the white majority. You need to look no further then the Tea Party and many others examples.
A sitting US Senator today said he would support lawsuits alleging the President of the United States is not a US citizen. A national disgrace and racist!!!!
white folks and their affirmative action. just to let you know, not everybody likes working with you either. not everybody in amerikan society wants to bow down and kiss your feet!
Affirmative Action is a dumbing down process resulting in this kind of bullshit hot air being provisioned as "high quality education." His speech here, for instance, is full of meaninglessness. It's political rhetoric which is totally empty of content.
@kajes5 "Dr." Cornell West is a charlatan, a fake. He offers canned leftist political rhetoric packaged as academic truths. If he's your idea of an intellectual, you're crazy. Affirmative action is racism institutionalized in favor of whoever the quota system is designed to benefit. There used to be affirmative action for whites. Then the civil rights movement sold itself as promoting equality. Then so called affirmative action was unveiled to institutionalize racism in favor of blacks.
@electango he is as real in the social justice movement as you are in the youtube movement. one being profoundly more important then the other.........
Find one part of this speech where Dr. West packages political rhetoric as academic truth.
he is an unabashed leftist, no secret there........
@kajes5 Affirmative action is social injustice. Persons are given benefits solely based upon the color of their skin. So affirmative action--institutionalized racism--supported wholeheartedly by Cornel West is immoral. Cornel West's goal is black supremacy. In the true sense of social justice--black supremacy is as equally offensive as white supremacy. Therefore, Cornel West is no better than supporters of Lester Maddox.
@kajes5 Of course I don't know West, but I can see his public output and it's total horseshit. You have not had one word to say in defense of your racist attitudes. You're the one who needs to step up. Thanks for playing. Good day sir.
@electango you leveled the accusations in your post sir.
if you want to make accusations why don't you have the courage to back them up with proof........as I said, find 1 example within the speech to back up your accusations.
@kajes5 Is West a defender of affirmative action? Of course. Listen to him. In my opinion affirmative action is institutionalized racism. Therefore, in my opinion, West favors institutionalized racism. It is my opinion that affirmative action is a political program disguised as social "justice" but in reality designed to replace white supremacy with black supremacy. Therefore, in my opinion, Cornel West is a black supremacist as well. Do you deny that West supports affirmative action?
@electango this is kajes5, youtube forced me to change my log-in large swaths of the American people support AA. you sir are in a very small minority. you are ill-informed about the purposes of AA or ignorant of American history, either way, it is useless to continue this converstaion.
@kevcas73 Right. And large swaths of the American people used to support Jim Crow and slavery. Let's just ask the American people!! They have all the answers!
@electango when you subjugate 25% of your population for 125 years and then allow them only meaningless jobs and no chance at advancing up the ladder for another 75+ years you get a class of people who struggle because they are not getting a fair shake. You won't even allow them to sit down and eat at restaurants, which is where the AA case stems from. The white majority was not allowing for the advancement of any other race but our own, even though these people are American.
@kevcas73 Two wrongs do not make a right. Racism should be eliminated entirely not kept alive by institutionalizing it in a new form. Too many African Americans seem bent upon establishing black supremacy by institutionalizing the racism of affirmative action. They're not opposed to racism at all. In fact, they support racism as long as they themselves are the beneficiaries.
@electango I'd like for you to provide 1 example of "Too many African Americans seem bent upon establishing black supremacy by institutionalizing the racism of affirmative action." A specific example of a black person institutionalizing racism vis a vis AA. This should be good........
@kevcas73 The new Jim Crow affirmative action institutionalization of racism is not one black person in action. It is the entire government at all levels establishing quotas and giving preference for educational and career opportunities, for government contracts and other benefits based upon skin color, gender or ethnic origin. It spreads into the private sector as well. It's why the unqualified poser Cornel West has his Ivy League job. The dumbing down of America in the flesh.
@electango Again when you subjugate 25% of your population for 125 years and then allow them only meaningless jobs and no chance at advancing up the ladder for another 75+ years you get a class of people who struggle because they are not getting a fair shake. You won't even allow them to sit down and eat at restaurants, which is where the AA case stems from. The white majority was not allowing for the advancement of any other race but our own, even though these people are American.
@kevcas73 Because slavery & Jim Crow existed in the past and held blacks down, you're proposing a new form of institutionalized racism called affirmative action which will hold whites down. Most Americans who supported the civil rights movement would not have supported it if it had been made clear that the goal of the movement was institutionalized racism benefiting blacks. It was sold as a movement for equality when in fact it simply sought to replace white supremacy with black supremacy.
@electango no program is perfect, so if your point is that there is some people or some part of the program that is imperfect, then bravo! Find me a government program that runs without problems.
The overall point is to provide a means for minorities to get a EQUAL OPPORTUNITY at what the majority has controlled and done quite well on.
You know it is not racism, that kind of talk is silly.
@kevcas73 The government cannot to provide EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. In the case of affirmative action, Jim Crow and slavery, the government only harms. The government apparently needs institutional racism because as soon as Jim Crow was legally abolished, the government adopted the institutional racism of affirmative action. And racist black supremacists like Obama and Cornel West are all for pro black institutional racism. The people must resist this new racism as they resisted the old.
@electango Calling President Obama and Cornel West black supremacists is really shameful. you have lost all intellectual and moral ground by such immature and incoherent statements. you are not interested in debate merely forwarding an agenda of hate. we're done.
@electango How do you juxtapose a system that generally promotes white achievement with a program meant to allow indivduals within the American minority to have an opportunity to achieve similar achievement? Why are you alarmed at the fact this is taking place with minorities, when this takes place all the time with white folks who have done poor as well? Haven't people of color who have taken advantage of this program become intelligent, informed, active citizens? Isn't that the point?
@AfroPlato Jim Crow Segregation helped some poor whites become more intelligent, informed and active citizens when they were taking places otherwise more suited for persons of color. In a color blind society, those poor whites would have been janitors or orange pickers. So under Jim Crow, a more qualified black man had to pick oranges or clean toilets to make a place for that poor white man. Institutionalized racism is still racism. There is no place for it.
@electango I believe affirmative action should exist as long as there is any individual without an opportunity to manifest their potential, because their access to opportunity is predicated on their access to resources. This unfortunately plagues the Black community for the most part, so if it happens that this group along with other minority groups (Jews, Hispanic, White trailer park dudes, included) are disadvantaged, but have the potential to excel then, sure allow it.
@electango Their acceptance is not dictated by their skin color, but an acknowledgment of their potential and a consideration of an enviroment that might as well hamper any chance of their mental growth. This will assist us in cutting in potential criminals. This may be "modern America," however, this is should not be uncompassionate, unthoughtful one.
@electango I don't see affirmative action as a prize for the Blacks purely as many other groups outside of the African American community have taken advantage of this... without any hooting and hollering.
@electango What if I told you that there was a white man who did exceptionally poor at school, but was allowed into an IVY league school, because of his familial connections as opposed to his financial status?
@electango One of these situations demand a chance for an individual to advance with some assistance, while another had the resources, but was given access absolutely irrespective of their capability. Affirmative action addresses access for people who tend to be in the lower rungs of the social order, not color. Someone lied to you.
@AfroPlato Take the race, religion, sexual orientation, gender etc completely out of the program. Then it's an assistance program which addresses economic equity and isn't racially discriminatory. Why is that so difficult? Obviously because some people want institutional racism kept alive.
@AfroPlato What's really amazing is after all the suffering of African Americans due to institutionalized racism that there is so much support for the institutionalized racism known as affirmative action. The institutionalized racism working allegedly in your favor today can be turned against you tomorrow. It's time to make all institutionalized racism illegal.
@electango No doubt, however, you need to make that clear to us. So far, it seems to have been a great help to those who are against it - like Clarence Thomas. It may be turned against us, but I would like you to enlighten me of how.
@AfroPlato Affirmative Action is based on the 50/50 distribution of all minorities/women...now there must be women minorities so then the 50-minority share is to white women. Get real....compare the numbers of minorities to the numbers of white women and who is getting the lions share of the action - affirmative or not!
@giaramos2010 Is this speculation or based on some statistic I'm not familiar with? Does it include white rather all non-minority men who have been included in institutions that they haven't qualified for?
@AfroPlato I'm not against programs designed to make people better. I'm against institutionalized racism. Affirmative action confers benefits on persons based upon skin color. A billionaire like Oprah Winfrey would be granted preference for a job opening over a homeless white man simply because the billionaire was black. This kind of racism has no place in modern America.
@electango then, what is racism? ... include that in your definition of institutionalized racism... answer me as if you would treat a person new to the term.
@electango In regards to Oprah, that is your opinion. I don't see how that can be contested, because she is rich and influential... more so, than any homeless person. A white rich woman similarly would be granted preference than a white poor man. That wouldn't be a problem involving affirmative action's injustice, since her popularity would more likely contaminate your hypothesis's validity. I mean which really influenced the job recruiter... her riches and fame or her color?
@AfroPlato Oprah became a billionaire through hard work and force of personality. She is an incredibly charismatic person. She got where she is without racial preference programs. In her mother's time, she would have been discriminated against and denied access due to skin color.
@electango true about Oprah... however, she was not in abject poverty and she was assisted by others no matter how she may disagree. No one on this planet has ever achieved anything without the help of someone else who has made it. Unfortunately, not everyone is blessed with the vervacity and grace of Oprah, but that doesn't mean they should be allowed to rot.
@AfroPlato Oprah came of age as the civil rights movement was coming into being. She was not from extreme poverty but her people were blue collar definitely. She is incredibly talented and intelligent and also very pretty. Still, not all incredibly talented, intelligent and very pretty people do well in life. And very few persons have Oprah's assets. Ultimately, Oprah delivers because she gets the highest ratings for her TV shows. That's all Capitalism cares about.
@electango I had a feeling that this is the reason you aren't for affirmative action... is it safe to say you think that if everyone works hard, then everyone will be successful. Do you think that makes sense considering how capitalism works? I definitely don't think it should be an excuse to being on welfare incessantly, but still... come on, based on a small number of individuals, you surmise that everyone can overcome obstacles and be successful if they work hard, because this is America?
@AfroPlato I oppose racial discrimination. Many business locally run by Chinese in AfroAmerican majority communities hire no Blacks. It is a cause of resentment. Young people see successful businesses making money in the community and they know there's not a chance in hell they can get a job there. So I support vigorous enforcement of laws against racial discrimination. But the government should at the same time battle institutionalized racism just as vigorously.
@electango I think you mean a black woman would be granted preference than a poor white man... probably... but in the wide span of the game, she would be a black woman among hundreds of whites that may have not been up to par to with the requirements for acceptance into the job. And you are complaining about her??? Why? I think you would be more a more just egalitarian if you fervently fought the grounds of other white's acceptance as much as you fought the grounds of her acceptance.
@electango large swaths of this country were not supportive of Jim Crow, that is an absolute lie or falsehood my friend........don't confuse indifference with support. There were many Americans who were opposed to Jim Crow and many more who were indifferent.
@kevcas73 Jim Crow was a nationwide phenomenon. It would not have existed without the support of the majority of the population. Indifference allows injustice to fester and survive. Silence implies consent. Affirmative action is the new Jim Crow.
if only i had lecturers like this when i was at university. one of my lecturers was so bad that on the last day he passed around a box of chocolates by way of apology...
Wow you ignorant shit stain, you must live a horrible live (aside from being about 12 years old) ... go back to jacking off since you can't get a girlfriend, bitch.
Black man/women of slavery were un-educated, because the slave master kept them from reading and writing so they would be subservient and not escape. A non-self imposed ignorance. This had a devastating perpetual consequences.
The white society has been telling his-tory for about 100 yrs., i.e., radio, movies then steroid tv.
Therefore, how do you keep a people down? You 'never' let them 'know' their history...this is why Black People need their history.
The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after the Little Big Horn Massacre, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read, and visit site/great military history, rescue at pine ridge. com
All the post of the Buffalo Soldiers had some type of library/school to help bring the troops up to speed, since most of them came directly out of slavery. Enjoy
How do you keep a people down? You 'never' let them 'know' their history.
The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after the Little Big Horn Massacre, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read, and visit site/great history, rescue at pine ridge. com
How do you keep a people down? You 'never' let them 'know' their history.
The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after Little Big Horn, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read, and visit site/history, rescue at pine ridge. com
@SugarKatie that is Richard Nixon speaking to White House staff in Aug 74 as he went out the door. a top 5 Presidential speech by any standard. 18 minutes without notes from the heart.
To bad the good Doctor is stuck on his P.H.D. and never bothered to learn or accept who taught the greeks whom he loves so much. This is the reason him and Dr John Henrick Clarke and Dr Ben were at odds is because he could not embrace and speak out forcefully the true achievements of KEMET the teachers of Greece.
if dr. west is the dumbest then we all don't even have a brain including you "playsetman" If only we all could aspire to such greatness with all its humility.
I agree with Dr. West. In order for us to achieve social justice, we must evaluate our culture and be willing to question the peculiar parts of it just as Socrates, Christ and Dr. King did as well as people like Martin Luther, Gandhi and Nelson Mandela.
I just love the way he completely destroys and reenforces the idea that white people didn't contribute to the end of slavary. It was people like Thomas Paine that was a champion for the rights of all free men. 600,000 people died for the cause of freeing black men during the Civil War, I want to see how many slaves fought for that sanguinary conflict. Also, the segrigation after the Civil War had worse and longer lasting consequnces like black supremecy, this video is a perfect example of it.
You seriously think the Civil War was really about slavery? Those history books have all been revised, my friend. It was Economics and state's rights...pure and simple, a line drawn in the sand, and unfortunately slavery became the scapegoat.
I agree with your comment about Thomas Paine, but Civil War for the freedom of all Americans wasn't a truth 150 years ago, and it's not a truth today..
They used the constitution to say that the Union could not have any power over the states on the issue, what sparked everything was slavary. There is no doubt that the Civil War was over economics, free labor coming from humans was not the first in America. I disagree with that the freedoms the soldiers in the past fought for eventually were not won, I mean, you can't tell me today things are as bad or worse.
I love a good fight, and if the subject is abject poverty, social injustice, racism as it relates to the legacy of white supremacy and male supremacy then I am all for it.
My "gut" tells me social activism will continue even if people like ahooga throw verbal stones from the back rows of life, assailing those on the front lines who risk so much more than he!!!
Pat Buchanan, senior advisor to that great American Ronald Reagan- who lacked the courage to talk about AIDS or to even acknowledge the disease until 20,000 people had died in HIS great America.
Ann Coulter- who is on record as saying the widows of 9-11 are publicity hunting whiners
Michael Savage is such a disgusting and vile carcass of a human being he does not deserve the time I've wasted typing this.
"It will not be eradicated soon, but it can be managed" beautiful, maybe like healthcare or social security. A national racism management, will make it a cabinet position. Wonderful!!!!!
"The way to manage it however is not to say that every injustice committed by white against a black is grounded in racism. But this is exactly what racism pushers like West would have you believe." Not true at all of Dr West
Ayaan Hirsi, Ali did we not put that Somali by of Norway or Sweden to bed already....
This ahooga individual is interesting! I agree with Bloodwolvz that ahooga is "immature for attacking him [Dr. Cornel West] personally instead of methodically rebutting his words and logic."
You will know that I am attacking Cornel personally when I start calling attention to the gap between his front teeth. I do attack his words. They belong to another age. As it become increasingly obvious that systematic racism is a thing of the past (i.e., we have a mulatto president and mulatto A.G.) the civil rights industry becomes increasingly irrelevant. Cornel's choice is this: keep the boogieman of racism alive in your minds, or get a job.
Black victimization ideology cannot provide the specifics necessary to sustain the argument that is indeed true. But we can point to specific acts of racism and white supremacy going back a half-century or more. Specificity is not your strong suit ahooga so this is dangerous ground for you.
Once again you have stepped outside of your educational boundaries and look foolish for it Here are some black scholars for you since you seem to be lost on this:
Dr. Boyce Watkins
Dr. Charles Ogletree
Dr. Henry Louis Gates
Dr. Michael Eric Dyson
Playthell Benjamin and Juan Williams????? And when did I attribute your criticism to racism. Please go back and read my replies, they have all centered around the same theme. You simply are not smart enough to understand what is being put forth.
the use of quotes and phrases enhances the speech and shows parallels in thought. complicated only to those who can't follow along. he's dealing with subjects that are feelings and emotions and uses all the tools at his disposal to keep the audience invested in what he is talking about. he is an actor, orator, philosopher, intellectual, humorist, preacher, critic all wrapped into one hell of a human being
Captain West's "use of quotes and phrases" distracts the unwary, unintelligent, listener from his cant (not to be confused with can't), exaggeration and '60's propaganda.
Juan Williams would correct you for attributing my criticism of Captain West to racism, as if no one can have a criticism of West unless the person is a racist. Shame on you. Juan William, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Thomas Sowell are among the black thinkers I respect. Cornell West makes his living cultivating grievances. Ever notice he doesn't ask for anything specific? That's because if he asked and they gave it to him he'd have to find a job. West could find racism in a pile of shit. You too, I think.
Watch the debate between Christopher Hitchens and Playthell Benjamin on this site if you'd like to feel embarrassed for what passes as erudition and eloquence for some blacks. It's as if they can't, or won't, climb out of the gutter, so they decorate it with tinsel and present it as something nice. On the other hand perhaps you've bought into the black victimization ideology such that you won't see the folly.
by the way after you done blowing larry elders, and bill cosby, and clarence thomas maybe you should do some real research and you will find that you can not be "colorblind" because the system isnt
I'll delay returning the insult until you've explained what you mean. What are you trying to say? that the system that just elected the first mulatto president is racist? I think, like Captain West, you could find racism in a pile of shit.
By the way, thanks for calling my attention to Larry Elders, who in your stupidity you throw out like garbage. Don't forget to trash Booker T. Washington and Frederick Douglass, too. They, too, were responsible for their own success. Oh, I almost forgot about Clarence Thomas; don't forget to take a big shit on him, as well, you fucking retard. There's a scene in the film Glory in which Morgan Freeman slaps Demsel Washington. I suggest you watch that scene. Watch it over, and over.
sounds like a well read preacher,love his enormous passion but wish he'd drop the academic jargon there is no wisdom in academic jargon it's decorative,it makes simple and important ideas more complicated than they need to be.
Saying "white people" is just as bad as a white person saying "black people" or "hispanic people" (not sure which race you are). Just another form of racism making you no better than those who ridicule this smart man because of his skin color.
No, he did not. He has a Doctorate in Theology and taught at Harvard for over a decade, publishing several books before he became a ATV personality. Please do not under-rate the accomplishments of people far more talented than yourself due to your racism.
A horse can publish a book. Please do not deny me my low of opinion of Captain Cornell West, and the sneering ridiculing manner I choose to express it, because you think you can attribute the motives of every white person who disagrees with you to racism. I will not vote for Obama, and my decision has nothing to do with his being mulatto. You will vote for Obama, and you decision has much to do with race.
Foolahooga please read. "Argumentation theory, or argumentation, embraces the arts and sciences of civil debate, dialogue, conversation, and persuasion; studying rules of inference, logic, and procedural rules in both artificial and real world settings. Argumentation is concerned primarily with reaching conclusions through logical reasoning, that is, claims based on premise."
You offer no argumentation. You try to insult me by calling me silly names. You dismiss me as one who hates. You are a bigger nincompoop that your hero, Cornell West. Cornell West is a muckraker who specializes in stringing together quotes, cliches, aphorisms, and uses loaded language, to misrepresent, exaggerate and exploit the history of white on black victimization in order to empower himself.
ahooga he is a philospher and scholar, his job is to probe the society he lives in and ask questions of it. You bring a negative mindset to socratic thinking. He gives speeches on a monthly sometimes weekly basis so it is no great surprise he has some of the same material in his speeches. I have listened to all of his youtube videos and he has many different points in them. You are immature for attacking him personally instead of methodically rebutting his words and logic.
You discredit the wise words of a wise man on what basis? He brings up perfectly valid points- there's no need to downplay the genius of another man to compensate for your own intellectual shortcomings. You may disagree with his ideologies- but again, ideologies cannot be proven or dis proven. Cornell West is a professor of African American studies, not biomedical engineering.
He ignores discounts evidence that racism is waning (we have a mulatto president, a mulatto A.G., Indian Gov. of Louisiana, etc.) in order to make points that were relevant 40 years ago seem relevant today. The racism industry is a source of great power and money. With every advancement against racism, the racism industry loses momentum. Cornel isn't about to let his livelihood go out of business. Otherwise he might have to go to work.
"The racism industry is a source of great power and money. With every advancement against racism, the racism industry loses momentum"
Wow. You are quite unique, to say the least. I assume you do not know about the Jenna 6? Sean bells case? I could go on, but tell me, do those ring any bells in your thick head? Please tell me you're just a troll- I mean, humans are imperfect but what you just said was utterly absurd.
"Cornel isn't about to let his livelihood go out of business"
"work" as in doing things other than make "irrelevant" points on racism? Well, for one, he's written dozens of award winning books that had little to do with race. So you're either a complete idiot or just woefully uninformed. Please, stop making a fool out of yourself.
Shrimpnoodles: name twelve books West wrote in which racism is not the focal point. Name the awards they won. The Jenna six and the Sean Bell? Two cases, cases for which there was a legal remedy? Yes, please "go on." I'll help you: Rodney King. Now you have three. Keep going.
You never cease to amuse me; way to miss the point einstein. You regard Cornel west as nothing more than a indolent and narcissistic man who exploits racism- something you claim to be waning-for his own benefits. So tell me, in this magical world of yours where every case regardless of the presence of discrimination could be resolved legally, how does the Tulia Texas case fit? Hm?
I don't say that there isn't racism. There is racism, and sexism, and ethnocentrism. There are many kinds of prejudice. It will not be eradicated soon, but it can be managed. The way to manage it however is not to say that every injustice committed by white against a black is grounded in racism. But this is exactly what racism pushers like West would have you believe. Have you ever listened to Ayaan Hirsi Ali? Her intellect dwarfs that of Cornell West. And she speaks plainly.
"He ignores discounts evidence that racism is waning ... in order to make points that were relevant 40 years ago seem relevant today" That's where I drew my comparison.
"The way to manage it however is not to say that every injustice committed by white against a black is grounded in racism"
Cornel west is denouncing all acts of injustice committed by whites towards blacks as racist? I think not. It's appalling how you can go about throwing out words like "racism pusher" shamelessly.
I understand. You want to go on feeling like a victim, blaming your lot on racism instead of your own shortcomings, waiting for Cornell West and others in the racism industry to make it all right for you. Be my guest. You've got Obama now. He'll make sure you get what you deserve. He's off to a great start. And don't worry: if he screws up he can just keep blaming it on Bush.
I'm curious? Are you completely discounting racism as a present institutional problem that though in a weaker, more subtle state isn't strong enough to break a Black child psychologically or to build a White child in the same light or post-racial system?
ahmmm .. that's all i can say to his lecture.. :)
lovelplants 1 month ago
This guy is a laughable joke. This is what blacks put forward as intelligent? He is like a cartoon character. It is so obvious that he has simply memorized some big words and in his child like mind, he thinks he is coming off as intelligent. I just don't get blacks.
rhm51 5 months ago
@rhm51 the joke is on you.....Dr West has been in the fight since the 1970's.......do some research before you spout ignorant statements...you don't agree him, fine...to attack personally, childish!!!!
kevcas73 3 months ago
@kevcas73 There is nothing childish about criticizing his laughable practice of memorizing some big words. In his pitiful mind, that passes for intelligence. He just isn't smart enough to realize how ridculous his behavior makes him appear. He may have been "in the fight" since the 70's, but he has been a goof since the 70's. The man is a joke.
rhm51 3 months ago
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@rhm51 "ignorance is bliss" and you sir are blissfully unaware..........
kevcas73 3 months ago
@rhm51 It is not the words but the sentiments expressed that are important.
You may htink that the black speaking tradition is inferior because of our "comical" use of big words. But
I ask you: Did Cornel speak one lie? One? We don't care about looking professional, we care about speaking the truth whether comforting or not iconoclastic or not. THAT is what you don't get about blacks.
ribchwi 2 months ago
@rhm51 Are you a white republican from the south?
312rider1 1 month ago
does anyone know of another long vid of one of west's lectures/talks on similar themes but he gets REALLY animated and worked up about the wall street bankers. I def watched it on youtube before, but can't find it now. He says things like "...we got national security problems in harlem, we got national security problems on the south side of chicago..."
can anyone help?
dezmundo1251 5 months ago
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Dr. Cornel West & Carl Dix On Gay Marriage
Dr. Cornel West Urged To Run For President By Jeff4Justice
jeff4justice 8 months ago
thats a doctor that can actually fix something in this world.ur a hero man
sweetdip27 10 months ago
Very powerful! Thanks for sharing!
pdnamightyriver1 11 months ago
Dr West is talking about powerful against powerless. He is talking about putting the interests of "the least of these" in front of the most powerful among us. In many cases that is white but in the case of our President it is not and he has gone after Obama on many occasion for this very reason. Economic growth by means of corporate priorities is not going to grow the middle class is certainly not going to lift those that are impoverished out........
kevcas73 1 year ago
HIs whole speech and all his speeches are predicated on black Americans holding some kind of moral high ground in 2007 and whites needing to feel guilty about what is implicit in his speech - continued white racism. When he speaks to black audiences he preaches with them and when he speaks to white audiences he preaches at them. To me this undercuts his worth. This idea that whites today are somehow responsible for slavery but blacks not for gang violence today holds no water; it's either or.
James2010May 1 year ago
@James2010May
there is continued white racism today against minorities. that is not even arguable. to say he preaches differently to audiences based on there color is simply wrong. point me in the direction of where one black leader says gangs are not responsible for gang violence.............
kevcas73 1 year ago
@kevcas73 The civil rights argument was against institutional racism - that is gone. There will always be racism. Saying it exists mostly on the part of whites compared to everybody else is a feel good lie. I meant al blacksl responsible for gangs in the sense all whites are responsible for slavery. With gangs it's individuals, with slavery it's white skin. I have seen video of West talking to black and white audiences and the attitude is us and them, the exact thing you criticize whites for.
JamesErvin100 1 year ago
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@JamesErvin100 we have an oversimplification of racism and a glossing over of whites roles in it 2010......there have been monumental changes in many circles within this society but I am not prescribing to anything you say.
kevcas73 1 year ago
@JamesErvin100
You should be ashame of yourself, West is about unity, i'm for separation. This is what I always say "whites are going to hate you no matter how nice you are" so give them (whites) hell.
Oh and by the way your comparison "sucks" because whites created gangs and are the biggest gang.
SuperProphet100 9 months ago
@SuperProphet100 Dear Superbitch, wait, hold on, I have to sneeze. I'm celebrating white history millenium. It's so pervasive that we don't need posters on bulletin boards to remind us we did something, we use the moon. We left graffiti on it and everything, out of reach of even affirmative action. Yowl over that my main bitch.
JamesErvin100 6 months ago
@JamesErvin100
Dear fuckboy, learn how to put a sentence together & speak correct so I can understand you, you illiterate moron.
I have no idea what you're trying to say but I and other intelligent people know that "man nor white so-called man never been to the moon"...never! So stop watching TV & YouTube for information you freak with a Black fettish. Education rocks.
SuperProphet100 6 months ago
@SuperProphet100 white so-called man is still above black so-called baboon. How does it feel to look at the moon that dominates the night sky and never for one minute be able to forget your inferiority. We shoulda left some grafitti on it, like a giant portrait of Doris Day.
JamesErvin100 6 months ago
@JamesErvin100
I strongly recommend you get your ass off YouTube and into some classes.
If America been to the moon why they can't get there today?..Technology suppose to go forward not backwards, you illiterate apeface monkey.
Blacks & people of color runs this country, how do that make your fart face feel???
SuperProphet100 6 months ago
@JamesErvin100 that kind of deep rooted hate and exclusivity is sad. why you would get into a ignorant, 5th grade like argument on a page that has Dr. West is ridiculous......why don't you go to a Rush Limbaugh video and post that garbage there..........I'm sure there are plenty Donald Trump videos you can put that nonsense.......
The dogma of white suprmacy lives on no thanks to scholars like JamesErvin........
kevcas73 3 months ago
@JamesErvin100 What's with the stocking cap; do you live in a freezer?
JamesErvin100 5 months ago
@JamesErvin100 You must be well educated. Where did you go to school?
312rider1 1 month ago
@James2010May
Whites created gangs and whites have the biggest gang (the mob, politicians, the military among others), so stop whining and take some responsibility, whites are living today off the bones of others. Now your race my not mean anything to you but what was done to my race by whites has to be dealt with, because it still goes on. Blacks would never say anything to whites if y'all stop destroying everything blacks build for ourselves and our leaders, do the study it's a fact.
SuperProphet100 9 months ago
"Martin Luther King Jr. was one voice in a wave in an ocean; that said I'm not only willing to live and die for an ideal, I want to learn how to die while I'm alive. So I can live life more intensely and abundantly." - Cornel West
"The examined life is painful" -Malcolm X
"I've known no crime but to understand beyond my means." -Niccolo Zuppelli
Armistace 1 year ago
Is this guy supposed to be a comedian ("the retarded Harvard professor") or is he supposed to be real?
Sammyjackson1488 1 year ago
@Sammyjackson1488
40+ years in the service of others qualifies.
What kind of service to others do you employ.......Maybe ignorant and immature comic banter? Yes?
kevcas73 1 year ago
@kevcas73
I am all for the First Amendment, so I don't care if this West feller spews his hate. But shame on you for tuning in. I may be wrong, but West is a racist, is he not?
Sammyjackson1488 1 year ago
@Sammyjackson1488
what speech did yo listen to? are you not aware of the vicious legacy of white supremacy and male supremacy in this country? the poor get more poor and the rich get richer, still in 2010. Who are we talking about when you discuss the poor? We are talking about brown, black and other minorities.....
It is too easy to run to the race card my friend. You know Dr. West as much as I know you........very little. grow up and out then speak.
kevcas73 1 year ago
@kevcas73
Just to be clear, you are saying that I do not have a constitutional right to walk down the street with my swastika T-shirt. You are saying, it seems, that I should be murdered on the spot. Is that correct?
Sammyjackson1488 1 year ago
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@Sammyjackson1488 "I am all for the First Amendment, so I don't care if this West feller spews his hate. But shame on you for tuning in. I may be wrong, but West is a racist, is he not?" What hate spews from Cornel West mouth please sir? What speech were you listening too?
kevcas73 1 year ago
@Sammyjackson1488 you're for the 1st Amendment alright, YOUR 1st amendment.....
kevcas73 1 year ago
I hope Dr West and others continue to preach the gospel of inclusion and understanding, love and peace. Diatribes of hate from the right and far right, disguised as sincere caring is a smoke screen of hate and lies. Racism is alive and well in the white majority. You need to look no further then the Tea Party and many others examples.
A sitting US Senator today said he would support lawsuits alleging the President of the United States is not a US citizen. A national disgrace and racist!!!!
kevcas73 1 year ago
white folks and their affirmative action. just to let you know, not everybody likes working with you either. not everybody in amerikan society wants to bow down and kiss your feet!
Conduit13C 1 year ago
This guy is always at my school!! i swear to god, his daughter goes to my school. This guy is always reading and sleeping in the our library xD
sanman312 1 year ago
Affirmative Action is a dumbing down process resulting in this kind of bullshit hot air being provisioned as "high quality education." His speech here, for instance, is full of meaninglessness. It's political rhetoric which is totally empty of content.
electango 1 year ago
@electango political rhetoic? what speech did you listen too?
you know nothing about affirmative action or Dr West.
electango, is your real name Rand Paul? Your comments on AA are just as misinformed as his.......
kajes5 1 year ago
@kajes5 "Dr." Cornell West is a charlatan, a fake. He offers canned leftist political rhetoric packaged as academic truths. If he's your idea of an intellectual, you're crazy. Affirmative action is racism institutionalized in favor of whoever the quota system is designed to benefit. There used to be affirmative action for whites. Then the civil rights movement sold itself as promoting equality. Then so called affirmative action was unveiled to institutionalize racism in favor of blacks.
electango 1 year ago
@electango he is as real in the social justice movement as you are in the youtube movement. one being profoundly more important then the other.........
Find one part of this speech where Dr. West packages political rhetoric as academic truth.
he is an unabashed leftist, no secret there........
Your comments on AA are beyond adjective.
kajes5 1 year ago
@kajes5 Affirmative action is social injustice. Persons are given benefits solely based upon the color of their skin. So affirmative action--institutionalized racism--supported wholeheartedly by Cornel West is immoral. Cornel West's goal is black supremacy. In the true sense of social justice--black supremacy is as equally offensive as white supremacy. Therefore, Cornel West is no better than supporters of Lester Maddox.
electango 1 year ago
@electango
You don't know Dr. West any better then you know me..............
No sense in continuing you are regurgitating the same things over and over with no facts to back it up.
Thanks for playing. Good day sir.
kajes5 1 year ago
@kajes5 Of course I don't know West, but I can see his public output and it's total horseshit. You have not had one word to say in defense of your racist attitudes. You're the one who needs to step up. Thanks for playing. Good day sir.
electango 1 year ago
@electango you leveled the accusations in your post sir.
if you want to make accusations why don't you have the courage to back them up with proof........as I said, find 1 example within the speech to back up your accusations.
kajes5 1 year ago
@kajes5 Is West a defender of affirmative action? Of course. Listen to him. In my opinion affirmative action is institutionalized racism. Therefore, in my opinion, West favors institutionalized racism. It is my opinion that affirmative action is a political program disguised as social "justice" but in reality designed to replace white supremacy with black supremacy. Therefore, in my opinion, Cornel West is a black supremacist as well. Do you deny that West supports affirmative action?
electango 1 year ago
@electango this is kajes5, youtube forced me to change my log-in large swaths of the American people support AA. you sir are in a very small minority. you are ill-informed about the purposes of AA or ignorant of American history, either way, it is useless to continue this converstaion.
kevcas73 1 year ago
@kevcas73 Right. And large swaths of the American people used to support Jim Crow and slavery. Let's just ask the American people!! They have all the answers!
electango 1 year ago
@electango when you subjugate 25% of your population for 125 years and then allow them only meaningless jobs and no chance at advancing up the ladder for another 75+ years you get a class of people who struggle because they are not getting a fair shake. You won't even allow them to sit down and eat at restaurants, which is where the AA case stems from. The white majority was not allowing for the advancement of any other race but our own, even though these people are American.
kevcas73 1 year ago
@kevcas73 Two wrongs do not make a right. Racism should be eliminated entirely not kept alive by institutionalizing it in a new form. Too many African Americans seem bent upon establishing black supremacy by institutionalizing the racism of affirmative action. They're not opposed to racism at all. In fact, they support racism as long as they themselves are the beneficiaries.
electango 1 year ago
@electango I'd like for you to provide 1 example of "Too many African Americans seem bent upon establishing black supremacy by institutionalizing the racism of affirmative action." A specific example of a black person institutionalizing racism vis a vis AA. This should be good........
kevcas73 1 year ago
@kevcas73 The new Jim Crow affirmative action institutionalization of racism is not one black person in action. It is the entire government at all levels establishing quotas and giving preference for educational and career opportunities, for government contracts and other benefits based upon skin color, gender or ethnic origin. It spreads into the private sector as well. It's why the unqualified poser Cornel West has his Ivy League job. The dumbing down of America in the flesh.
electango 1 year ago
@electango Again when you subjugate 25% of your population for 125 years and then allow them only meaningless jobs and no chance at advancing up the ladder for another 75+ years you get a class of people who struggle because they are not getting a fair shake. You won't even allow them to sit down and eat at restaurants, which is where the AA case stems from. The white majority was not allowing for the advancement of any other race but our own, even though these people are American.
kevcas73 1 year ago
@kevcas73 Because slavery & Jim Crow existed in the past and held blacks down, you're proposing a new form of institutionalized racism called affirmative action which will hold whites down. Most Americans who supported the civil rights movement would not have supported it if it had been made clear that the goal of the movement was institutionalized racism benefiting blacks. It was sold as a movement for equality when in fact it simply sought to replace white supremacy with black supremacy.
electango 1 year ago
@electango no program is perfect, so if your point is that there is some people or some part of the program that is imperfect, then bravo! Find me a government program that runs without problems.
The overall point is to provide a means for minorities to get a EQUAL OPPORTUNITY at what the majority has controlled and done quite well on.
You know it is not racism, that kind of talk is silly.
kevcas73 1 year ago
@kevcas73 The government cannot to provide EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. In the case of affirmative action, Jim Crow and slavery, the government only harms. The government apparently needs institutional racism because as soon as Jim Crow was legally abolished, the government adopted the institutional racism of affirmative action. And racist black supremacists like Obama and Cornel West are all for pro black institutional racism. The people must resist this new racism as they resisted the old.
electango 1 year ago
@electango Calling President Obama and Cornel West black supremacists is really shameful. you have lost all intellectual and moral ground by such immature and incoherent statements. you are not interested in debate merely forwarding an agenda of hate. we're done.
kevcas73 1 year ago
@electango How do you juxtapose a system that generally promotes white achievement with a program meant to allow indivduals within the American minority to have an opportunity to achieve similar achievement? Why are you alarmed at the fact this is taking place with minorities, when this takes place all the time with white folks who have done poor as well? Haven't people of color who have taken advantage of this program become intelligent, informed, active citizens? Isn't that the point?
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@AfroPlato Jim Crow Segregation helped some poor whites become more intelligent, informed and active citizens when they were taking places otherwise more suited for persons of color. In a color blind society, those poor whites would have been janitors or orange pickers. So under Jim Crow, a more qualified black man had to pick oranges or clean toilets to make a place for that poor white man. Institutionalized racism is still racism. There is no place for it.
electango 1 year ago
@electango I believe affirmative action should exist as long as there is any individual without an opportunity to manifest their potential, because their access to opportunity is predicated on their access to resources. This unfortunately plagues the Black community for the most part, so if it happens that this group along with other minority groups (Jews, Hispanic, White trailer park dudes, included) are disadvantaged, but have the potential to excel then, sure allow it.
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@electango Their acceptance is not dictated by their skin color, but an acknowledgment of their potential and a consideration of an enviroment that might as well hamper any chance of their mental growth. This will assist us in cutting in potential criminals. This may be "modern America," however, this is should not be uncompassionate, unthoughtful one.
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@electango I don't see affirmative action as a prize for the Blacks purely as many other groups outside of the African American community have taken advantage of this... without any hooting and hollering.
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@electango What if I told you that there was a white man who did exceptionally poor at school, but was allowed into an IVY league school, because of his familial connections as opposed to his financial status?
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@electango One of these situations demand a chance for an individual to advance with some assistance, while another had the resources, but was given access absolutely irrespective of their capability. Affirmative action addresses access for people who tend to be in the lower rungs of the social order, not color. Someone lied to you.
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@AfroPlato Take the race, religion, sexual orientation, gender etc completely out of the program. Then it's an assistance program which addresses economic equity and isn't racially discriminatory. Why is that so difficult? Obviously because some people want institutional racism kept alive.
electango 1 year ago
@electango Who have you spoken to or what have you read to imply that access to this program is relegated to one's skin color purely...?
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@AfroPlato What's really amazing is after all the suffering of African Americans due to institutionalized racism that there is so much support for the institutionalized racism known as affirmative action. The institutionalized racism working allegedly in your favor today can be turned against you tomorrow. It's time to make all institutionalized racism illegal.
electango 1 year ago
@electango No doubt, however, you need to make that clear to us. So far, it seems to have been a great help to those who are against it - like Clarence Thomas. It may be turned against us, but I would like you to enlighten me of how.
Thanks,
AP
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@AfroPlato Affirmative Action is based on the 50/50 distribution of all minorities/women...now there must be women minorities so then the 50-minority share is to white women. Get real....compare the numbers of minorities to the numbers of white women and who is getting the lions share of the action - affirmative or not!
giaramos2010 1 year ago
@giaramos2010 Is this speculation or based on some statistic I'm not familiar with? Does it include white rather all non-minority men who have been included in institutions that they haven't qualified for?
AP
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@electango I'll continue once I read your definition of instituationalized racism...
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@electango Why are you against a program that is designed to remove people in dilapidated situations and make them better?
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@AfroPlato I'm not against programs designed to make people better. I'm against institutionalized racism. Affirmative action confers benefits on persons based upon skin color. A billionaire like Oprah Winfrey would be granted preference for a job opening over a homeless white man simply because the billionaire was black. This kind of racism has no place in modern America.
electango 1 year ago
@electango What is instituational racism? I would like to know your definition of it.
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@AfroPlato Institutionalized racism is racism as practiced by institutions like government bodies, churches, schools, etc.
electango 1 year ago
@electango then, what is racism? ... include that in your definition of institutionalized racism... answer me as if you would treat a person new to the term.
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@electango Nice chatting with you, in case, you do respond, I'll talk with you another time. It was my pleasure.
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@electango In regards to Oprah, that is your opinion. I don't see how that can be contested, because she is rich and influential... more so, than any homeless person. A white rich woman similarly would be granted preference than a white poor man. That wouldn't be a problem involving affirmative action's injustice, since her popularity would more likely contaminate your hypothesis's validity. I mean which really influenced the job recruiter... her riches and fame or her color?
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@AfroPlato Oprah became a billionaire through hard work and force of personality. She is an incredibly charismatic person. She got where she is without racial preference programs. In her mother's time, she would have been discriminated against and denied access due to skin color.
electango 1 year ago
@electango true about Oprah... however, she was not in abject poverty and she was assisted by others no matter how she may disagree. No one on this planet has ever achieved anything without the help of someone else who has made it. Unfortunately, not everyone is blessed with the vervacity and grace of Oprah, but that doesn't mean they should be allowed to rot.
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@AfroPlato Oprah came of age as the civil rights movement was coming into being. She was not from extreme poverty but her people were blue collar definitely. She is incredibly talented and intelligent and also very pretty. Still, not all incredibly talented, intelligent and very pretty people do well in life. And very few persons have Oprah's assets. Ultimately, Oprah delivers because she gets the highest ratings for her TV shows. That's all Capitalism cares about.
electango 1 year ago
@electango I had a feeling that this is the reason you aren't for affirmative action... is it safe to say you think that if everyone works hard, then everyone will be successful. Do you think that makes sense considering how capitalism works? I definitely don't think it should be an excuse to being on welfare incessantly, but still... come on, based on a small number of individuals, you surmise that everyone can overcome obstacles and be successful if they work hard, because this is America?
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@AfroPlato I oppose racial discrimination. Many business locally run by Chinese in AfroAmerican majority communities hire no Blacks. It is a cause of resentment. Young people see successful businesses making money in the community and they know there's not a chance in hell they can get a job there. So I support vigorous enforcement of laws against racial discrimination. But the government should at the same time battle institutionalized racism just as vigorously.
electango 1 year ago
@electango I think you mean a black woman would be granted preference than a poor white man... probably... but in the wide span of the game, she would be a black woman among hundreds of whites that may have not been up to par to with the requirements for acceptance into the job. And you are complaining about her??? Why? I think you would be more a more just egalitarian if you fervently fought the grounds of other white's acceptance as much as you fought the grounds of her acceptance.
AfroPlato 1 year ago
@electango large swaths of this country were not supportive of Jim Crow, that is an absolute lie or falsehood my friend........don't confuse indifference with support. There were many Americans who were opposed to Jim Crow and many more who were indifferent.
kevcas73 1 year ago
@kevcas73 Jim Crow was a nationwide phenomenon. It would not have existed without the support of the majority of the population. Indifference allows injustice to fester and survive. Silence implies consent. Affirmative action is the new Jim Crow.
electango 1 year ago
@electango that is absolutely untrue......any amount of research can undo that lie.....
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nerdyharry 1 year ago
@Morticiahatescoons We're all related you fucking dimwit.
Antiks72 1 year ago
if only i had lecturers like this when i was at university. one of my lecturers was so bad that on the last day he passed around a box of chocolates by way of apology...
matt247ryan 2 years ago 2
@matt247ryan i hear you brother. before we can be taught the right lessons, we must have the right teachers.
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Fazeone3000 2 years ago
Potent:)
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Fazeone3000 2 years ago
full of hate don't you listen to this man's word?
GLeNss 1 year ago
I can see this "professor" gnawing on a missionary's femur bone.
flattilre 2 years ago
wow whats wrong with this person!?
axxissww 2 years ago
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the fuck is this nigger talking about?
drumlegend1 2 years ago
Wow you ignorant shit stain, you must live a horrible live (aside from being about 12 years old) ... go back to jacking off since you can't get a girlfriend, bitch.
CharismaticRecluse 2 years ago
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Black man/women of slavery were un-educated, because the slave master kept them from reading and writing so they would be subservient and not escape. A non-self imposed ignorance. This had a devastating perpetual consequences.
The white society has been telling his-tory for about 100 yrs., i.e., radio, movies then steroid tv.
Therefore, how do you keep a people down? You 'never' let them 'know' their history...this is why Black People need their history.
poshportia62 2 years ago
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The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after the Little Big Horn Massacre, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read, and visit site/great military history, rescue at pine ridge. com
All the post of the Buffalo Soldiers had some type of library/school to help bring the troops up to speed, since most of them came directly out of slavery. Enjoy
poshportia62 2 years ago
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How do you keep a people down? You 'never' let them 'know' their history.
The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after the Little Big Horn Massacre, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read, and visit site/great history, rescue at pine ridge. com
MegaBluebay 2 years ago
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How do you keep a people down? You 'never' let them 'know' their history.
The 7th Cavalry got their butts in a sling again after Little Big Horn, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. Read, and visit site/history, rescue at pine ridge. com
poshportia62 2 years ago
others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, then you destroy yourself
kajes5 2 years ago 9
@kajes5 Did you quote West from this long speech? Could you tell me the specific time when he uttered this line? Thanks
SugarKatie 1 year ago
@SugarKatie that is Richard Nixon speaking to White House staff in Aug 74 as he went out the door. a top 5 Presidential speech by any standard. 18 minutes without notes from the heart.
kevcas73 1 year ago
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kajes5 2 years ago
To bad the good Doctor is stuck on his P.H.D. and never bothered to learn or accept who taught the greeks whom he loves so much. This is the reason him and Dr John Henrick Clarke and Dr Ben were at odds is because he could not embrace and speak out forcefully the true achievements of KEMET the teachers of Greece.
caddy1010 2 years ago
if dr. west is the dumbest then we all don't even have a brain including you "playsetman" If only we all could aspire to such greatness with all its humility.
jimmandelin 2 years ago
I agree with Dr. West. In order for us to achieve social justice, we must evaluate our culture and be willing to question the peculiar parts of it just as Socrates, Christ and Dr. King did as well as people like Martin Luther, Gandhi and Nelson Mandela.
bluesboy25000 2 years ago
He is one wise man!
jaimesandoval1988 2 years ago
Transcendent.
SameFatCrow 2 years ago
I just love the way he completely destroys and reenforces the idea that white people didn't contribute to the end of slavary. It was people like Thomas Paine that was a champion for the rights of all free men. 600,000 people died for the cause of freeing black men during the Civil War, I want to see how many slaves fought for that sanguinary conflict. Also, the segrigation after the Civil War had worse and longer lasting consequnces like black supremecy, this video is a perfect example of it.
MysteryManoLove 2 years ago
You seriously think the Civil War was really about slavery? Those history books have all been revised, my friend. It was Economics and state's rights...pure and simple, a line drawn in the sand, and unfortunately slavery became the scapegoat.
I agree with your comment about Thomas Paine, but Civil War for the freedom of all Americans wasn't a truth 150 years ago, and it's not a truth today..
Whicol2 2 years ago
They used the constitution to say that the Union could not have any power over the states on the issue, what sparked everything was slavary. There is no doubt that the Civil War was over economics, free labor coming from humans was not the first in America. I disagree with that the freedoms the soldiers in the past fought for eventually were not won, I mean, you can't tell me today things are as bad or worse.
MysteryManoLove 2 years ago
btw, I want a suit just like dr. west's....sharp as hell!
deloyisme 2 years ago
lmao @ the intro
deloyisme 2 years ago
Afropuffs let me jump in on this since .
I love a good fight, and if the subject is abject poverty, social injustice, racism as it relates to the legacy of white supremacy and male supremacy then I am all for it.
My "gut" tells me social activism will continue even if people like ahooga throw verbal stones from the back rows of life, assailing those on the front lines who risk so much more than he!!!
kajes5 2 years ago
Dr. West is BRILLIANT!!!!
JellyBean2144 2 years ago
now we see foolhooga's true colors......
Pat Buchanan, senior advisor to that great American Ronald Reagan- who lacked the courage to talk about AIDS or to even acknowledge the disease until 20,000 people had died in HIS great America.
Ann Coulter- who is on record as saying the widows of 9-11 are publicity hunting whiners
Michael Savage is such a disgusting and vile carcass of a human being he does not deserve the time I've wasted typing this.
kajes5 2 years ago
"It will not be eradicated soon, but it can be managed" beautiful, maybe like healthcare or social security. A national racism management, will make it a cabinet position. Wonderful!!!!!
"The way to manage it however is not to say that every injustice committed by white against a black is grounded in racism. But this is exactly what racism pushers like West would have you believe." Not true at all of Dr West
Ayaan Hirsi, Ali did we not put that Somali by of Norway or Sweden to bed already....
kajes5 2 years ago
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8117326 3 years ago
This ahooga individual is interesting! I agree with Bloodwolvz that ahooga is "immature for attacking him [Dr. Cornel West] personally instead of methodically rebutting his words and logic."
forlinhtinhs 3 years ago
You will know that I am attacking Cornel personally when I start calling attention to the gap between his front teeth. I do attack his words. They belong to another age. As it become increasingly obvious that systematic racism is a thing of the past (i.e., we have a mulatto president and mulatto A.G.) the civil rights industry becomes increasingly irrelevant. Cornel's choice is this: keep the boogieman of racism alive in your minds, or get a job.
ahooga 2 years ago
Ronald Reagan- Jefferson Davis is my hero
Trent Lott- racist pond scum
Jesse Helms-abhorrent racist and vile human being
Strom Thurmond-Dixicrat
Some of your good ole boy heroes I assume ahooga.......
kajes5 3 years ago
Black victimization ideology cannot provide the specifics necessary to sustain the argument that is indeed true. But we can point to specific acts of racism and white supremacy going back a half-century or more. Specificity is not your strong suit ahooga so this is dangerous ground for you.
kajes5 3 years ago
Once again you have stepped outside of your educational boundaries and look foolish for it Here are some black scholars for you since you seem to be lost on this:
Dr. Boyce Watkins
Dr. Charles Ogletree
Dr. Henry Louis Gates
Dr. Michael Eric Dyson
Playthell Benjamin and Juan Williams????? And when did I attribute your criticism to racism. Please go back and read my replies, they have all centered around the same theme. You simply are not smart enough to understand what is being put forth.
kajes5 3 years ago
the use of quotes and phrases enhances the speech and shows parallels in thought. complicated only to those who can't follow along. he's dealing with subjects that are feelings and emotions and uses all the tools at his disposal to keep the audience invested in what he is talking about. he is an actor, orator, philosopher, intellectual, humorist, preacher, critic all wrapped into one hell of a human being
kajes5 3 years ago
Captain West's "use of quotes and phrases" distracts the unwary, unintelligent, listener from his cant (not to be confused with can't), exaggeration and '60's propaganda.
ahooga 3 years ago
horses publishing books, secret languages, 60's propaganda, what else ahooga?
I hope Juan Williams reads these posts so he can add some of his scholarly comments........
kajes5 3 years ago
Juan Williams would correct you for attributing my criticism of Captain West to racism, as if no one can have a criticism of West unless the person is a racist. Shame on you. Juan William, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Thomas Sowell are among the black thinkers I respect. Cornell West makes his living cultivating grievances. Ever notice he doesn't ask for anything specific? That's because if he asked and they gave it to him he'd have to find a job. West could find racism in a pile of shit. You too, I think.
ahooga 3 years ago
Watch the debate between Christopher Hitchens and Playthell Benjamin on this site if you'd like to feel embarrassed for what passes as erudition and eloquence for some blacks. It's as if they can't, or won't, climb out of the gutter, so they decorate it with tinsel and present it as something nice. On the other hand perhaps you've bought into the black victimization ideology such that you won't see the folly.
ahooga 3 years ago
by the way after you done blowing larry elders, and bill cosby, and clarence thomas maybe you should do some real research and you will find that you can not be "colorblind" because the system isnt
kwballzandy9206 3 years ago
I'll delay returning the insult until you've explained what you mean. What are you trying to say? that the system that just elected the first mulatto president is racist? I think, like Captain West, you could find racism in a pile of shit.
ahooga 3 years ago
By the way, thanks for calling my attention to Larry Elders, who in your stupidity you throw out like garbage. Don't forget to trash Booker T. Washington and Frederick Douglass, too. They, too, were responsible for their own success. Oh, I almost forgot about Clarence Thomas; don't forget to take a big shit on him, as well, you fucking retard. There's a scene in the film Glory in which Morgan Freeman slaps Demsel Washington. I suggest you watch that scene. Watch it over, and over.
ahooga 3 years ago
sounds like a well read preacher,love his enormous passion but wish he'd drop the academic jargon there is no wisdom in academic jargon it's decorative,it makes simple and important ideas more complicated than they need to be.
katievhoneychurch 3 years ago
White people will deny the truth even if their lives depended on it.
DecrepitPluto 3 years ago
Saying "white people" is just as bad as a white person saying "black people" or "hispanic people" (not sure which race you are). Just another form of racism making you no better than those who ridicule this smart man because of his skin color.
mrmcdoobie 3 years ago
"Doctor" Cornell West. He earned his PhD in jive speak.
ahooga 3 years ago
No, he did not. He has a Doctorate in Theology and taught at Harvard for over a decade, publishing several books before he became a ATV personality. Please do not under-rate the accomplishments of people far more talented than yourself due to your racism.
kahirijohnson 3 years ago
A horse can publish a book. Please do not deny me my low of opinion of Captain Cornell West, and the sneering ridiculing manner I choose to express it, because you think you can attribute the motives of every white person who disagrees with you to racism. I will not vote for Obama, and my decision has nothing to do with his being mulatto. You will vote for Obama, and you decision has much to do with race.
ahooga 3 years ago
"Go and get an interpreter?" What a joke. If you gave Cornell West an enema, you could fit him in a matchbox.
ahooga 3 years ago
Wow. I can see you have a deep level of understanding...
Ookiikemono 3 years ago
And I can see that with you sarcasm substitutes for argument.
ahooga 3 years ago
Foolahooga please read. "Argumentation theory, or argumentation, embraces the arts and sciences of civil debate, dialogue, conversation, and persuasion; studying rules of inference, logic, and procedural rules in both artificial and real world settings. Argumentation is concerned primarily with reaching conclusions through logical reasoning, that is, claims based on premise."
You are not artistic, civil or logical.
I am done with your narcissistic babble.
kajes5 3 years ago
Is that supposed to be a paragraph? Are those sentences? You should send your "writing" to Cornell West. He will be very proud.
ahooga 3 years ago
foolhooga you are an intellectual eunuch!
An educational transvestite trying desperately to be something you are not, SMART!
But I will take a quote from Dick Nixon
"Others may hate you, but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them and then you destroy yourself"
kajes5 3 years ago
You offer no argumentation. You try to insult me by calling me silly names. You dismiss me as one who hates. You are a bigger nincompoop that your hero, Cornell West. Cornell West is a muckraker who specializes in stringing together quotes, cliches, aphorisms, and uses loaded language, to misrepresent, exaggerate and exploit the history of white on black victimization in order to empower himself.
ahooga 3 years ago
hater
kwesi216 3 years ago
Yes, you call me names.
ahooga 3 years ago
Regarding, "others may hate you..., you couldn't find a quote better than one spoken by a disgraced crook?
ahooga 3 years ago
On second thought you may have unknowing made an apt comparison.
ahooga 3 years ago
Profound response, foolhooga profound indeed.
kajes5 3 years ago
ahooga you continue to show a level of immaturity that is sad.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an intelligent african but not nearly as scholarly or profound as Dr. West.
Bloodwolvz is absolutly correct, the job of philosophy is to question and seek out what the truths really are.
kajes5 3 years ago
He is a bullshitter. Since you have a taste for shit, bon appetite!
ahooga 3 years ago
ahooga he is a philospher and scholar, his job is to probe the society he lives in and ask questions of it. You bring a negative mindset to socratic thinking. He gives speeches on a monthly sometimes weekly basis so it is no great surprise he has some of the same material in his speeches. I have listened to all of his youtube videos and he has many different points in them. You are immature for attacking him personally instead of methodically rebutting his words and logic.
Bloodwolvz 3 years ago
He is a clown, and gets paid very well for it.
ahooga 3 years ago
You discredit the wise words of a wise man on what basis? He brings up perfectly valid points- there's no need to downplay the genius of another man to compensate for your own intellectual shortcomings. You may disagree with his ideologies- but again, ideologies cannot be proven or dis proven. Cornell West is a professor of African American studies, not biomedical engineering.
ShrimpnoodIes 2 years ago
He ignores discounts evidence that racism is waning (we have a mulatto president, a mulatto A.G., Indian Gov. of Louisiana, etc.) in order to make points that were relevant 40 years ago seem relevant today. The racism industry is a source of great power and money. With every advancement against racism, the racism industry loses momentum. Cornel isn't about to let his livelihood go out of business. Otherwise he might have to go to work.
ahooga 2 years ago
"The racism industry is a source of great power and money. With every advancement against racism, the racism industry loses momentum"
Wow. You are quite unique, to say the least. I assume you do not know about the Jenna 6? Sean bells case? I could go on, but tell me, do those ring any bells in your thick head? Please tell me you're just a troll- I mean, humans are imperfect but what you just said was utterly absurd.
"Cornel isn't about to let his livelihood go out of business"
lol. just lol
ShrimpnoodIes 2 years ago
"he might have to go to work"
"work" as in doing things other than make "irrelevant" points on racism? Well, for one, he's written dozens of award winning books that had little to do with race. So you're either a complete idiot or just woefully uninformed. Please, stop making a fool out of yourself.
ShrimpnoodIes 2 years ago
Shrimpnoodles: name twelve books West wrote in which racism is not the focal point. Name the awards they won. The Jenna six and the Sean Bell? Two cases, cases for which there was a legal remedy? Yes, please "go on." I'll help you: Rodney King. Now you have three. Keep going.
ahooga 2 years ago
You never cease to amuse me; way to miss the point einstein. You regard Cornel west as nothing more than a indolent and narcissistic man who exploits racism- something you claim to be waning-for his own benefits. So tell me, in this magical world of yours where every case regardless of the presence of discrimination could be resolved legally, how does the Tulia Texas case fit? Hm?
ShrimpnoodIes 2 years ago
I don't say that there isn't racism. There is racism, and sexism, and ethnocentrism. There are many kinds of prejudice. It will not be eradicated soon, but it can be managed. The way to manage it however is not to say that every injustice committed by white against a black is grounded in racism. But this is exactly what racism pushers like West would have you believe. Have you ever listened to Ayaan Hirsi Ali? Her intellect dwarfs that of Cornell West. And she speaks plainly.
ahooga 2 years ago
"He ignores discounts evidence that racism is waning ... in order to make points that were relevant 40 years ago seem relevant today" That's where I drew my comparison.
"The way to manage it however is not to say that every injustice committed by white against a black is grounded in racism"
Cornel west is denouncing all acts of injustice committed by whites towards blacks as racist? I think not. It's appalling how you can go about throwing out words like "racism pusher" shamelessly.
ShrimpnoodIes 2 years ago
I understand. You want to go on feeling like a victim, blaming your lot on racism instead of your own shortcomings, waiting for Cornell West and others in the racism industry to make it all right for you. Be my guest. You've got Obama now. He'll make sure you get what you deserve. He's off to a great start. And don't worry: if he screws up he can just keep blaming it on Bush.
ahooga 2 years ago
I'm curious? Are you completely discounting racism as a present institutional problem that though in a weaker, more subtle state isn't strong enough to break a Black child psychologically or to build a White child in the same light or post-racial system?
- AP
AfroPlato 2 years ago