We heard and read often (certain) people saying that, Europe is a CHRISTIANS CLUB. I would like to say to this people how thinks or just assimilate this reflection, that, Europe is a CIVILIZED PEOPLES CLUB, Europe is a CLUB where there are some fundamental values like LIBERTY, EQUALITY, FRATERNITY, FREEDOM of SPEECH, EQUALITY between MEN and the WOMEN and SECULARITY, in two words, HUMAN RIGHTS must be respected. Only the people that they have these qualifications can be a member.
I hope that Turkey doesn't join the E.U. It is sometimes fun to talk vaguely about potential impacts on trade in the future. Frankly this isn't about economics. Having a society you want to live in is primary. having a government that responds to the will of the people is essential. The European population is adamantly anti-Turkish. This fact alone should settle the issue.
The sole responsibility for making sure a radical Islamic state does not spring up in Turkey lies squarely hearts, minds, and actions of the Turkish people, not the French or the EU as whole. The Turkish people should absolutely reject any form of religious extremism in their country on principle alone, irrespective EU status.
Interesting insight into contrasting French perspectives, regarding the ongoing Turkey vs. EU controversy. I thought both gentlemen approached the issue with mutual respect & their points were well made.
Once I was fairly pro-EU in my thinking but lately, I've began to wonder at what price, such inclusion would come. I have my own reservations concerning the concept of "globalization" & I think the Turks really need to proceed cautiously.
This is good. I wish they would choose to either turn down the French audio more if they are going to dub it in English or not dub it. Now it's difficult to hear either very well.
This is one of the most civilized discussions I've ever seen for a long long time. Mr. Toubon, I understand your fear and logic behind Turkey's entry in EU. But, you are forgetting, or disregarding a very important point of the issue which is allowing Turkey in EU and preventing her to become another radical Islamic regime at Europe's border. The Greeks and the Cypriots have been telling you this for years, but you seem like not getting it. How should they explain to you??
I do not think Turkey should enter the EU, and I really do not think there is any danger of Turkey becoming a "radical Islamic" state if it doesn't. Turkey is a secular republic and has been so for almost 100 years.
And before these French gentlemen lecture us on democracy, I would like to point to one interesting fact. Turkish women have been granted suffrage in 1930 long before their French counterparts who only got it in 1945.
We heard and read often (certain) people saying that, Europe is a CHRISTIANS CLUB. I would like to say to this people how thinks or just assimilate this reflection, that, Europe is a CIVILIZED PEOPLES CLUB, Europe is a CLUB where there are some fundamental values like LIBERTY, EQUALITY, FRATERNITY, FREEDOM of SPEECH, EQUALITY between MEN and the WOMEN and SECULARITY, in two words, HUMAN RIGHTS must be respected. Only the people that they have these qualifications can be a member.
BERGEXYZ 3 years ago
What great informative, civilised discussion..
Bleu80 3 years ago
I hope that Turkey doesn't join the E.U. It is sometimes fun to talk vaguely about potential impacts on trade in the future. Frankly this isn't about economics. Having a society you want to live in is primary. having a government that responds to the will of the people is essential. The European population is adamantly anti-Turkish. This fact alone should settle the issue.
poleske 3 years ago 12
The sole responsibility for making sure a radical Islamic state does not spring up in Turkey lies squarely hearts, minds, and actions of the Turkish people, not the French or the EU as whole. The Turkish people should absolutely reject any form of religious extremism in their country on principle alone, irrespective EU status.
DeAnte85 3 years ago
very good discussion
TurcoBarbarossa 4 years ago
Interesting insight into contrasting French perspectives, regarding the ongoing Turkey vs. EU controversy. I thought both gentlemen approached the issue with mutual respect & their points were well made.
Once I was fairly pro-EU in my thinking but lately, I've began to wonder at what price, such inclusion would come. I have my own reservations concerning the concept of "globalization" & I think the Turks really need to proceed cautiously.
MustaphaIsBored 4 years ago 4
i cannot see a discussion. both of them agree each other. where is the discussion here? this is a propaganda!
ksd444 4 years ago 12
This is good. I wish they would choose to either turn down the French audio more if they are going to dub it in English or not dub it. Now it's difficult to hear either very well.
cariosus 4 years ago
My God, what a great discussion. This is how all News should be presented, translated from french, that is civilized.
Ayeere 4 years ago
This is one of the most civilized discussions I've ever seen for a long long time. Mr. Toubon, I understand your fear and logic behind Turkey's entry in EU. But, you are forgetting, or disregarding a very important point of the issue which is allowing Turkey in EU and preventing her to become another radical Islamic regime at Europe's border. The Greeks and the Cypriots have been telling you this for years, but you seem like not getting it. How should they explain to you??
insaniz 4 years ago
I do not think Turkey should enter the EU, and I really do not think there is any danger of Turkey becoming a "radical Islamic" state if it doesn't. Turkey is a secular republic and has been so for almost 100 years.
And before these French gentlemen lecture us on democracy, I would like to point to one interesting fact. Turkish women have been granted suffrage in 1930 long before their French counterparts who only got it in 1945.
bgturk 4 years ago 7