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  • ...the fact that these solar demi-gods performed miracles in parrallel with jesus or whoever (water into wine and adonis just making wine out of nothing,ect) is besides the point. the point is they did a miracle that had something to do with wine. i mean simple logic tells you that if a person or group of people are copying something, to some extent they will try to change it a bit or alot to make it seem like its brand new in some respects.

  • the thing about the rebuttle and both the original zietgeist video (of which i have to say was interpreted wrong) is that jesus myth along with the other messianic demi-god figuress like horus,krishna, baal, Odonis, orpheus, attis, ect., is that they were all born in an immaculate way or in some supernatural or fantastic way beyond the realm of humanily possible. people are so hung up on the actual literal interpretation of the similarities that you missed the whole point. Second....part1

  • Yoshomika: You are missing the point. These videos are a rebuttal of the film Zeitgeist, which used the myths to show that Christianity is simply another retelling of the myths and therefore false. The fact that the myths are just that, myths, and therefore false, is precisely the point.

  • Besides... the word MYTH implies that it's false.... So if it doesn't exist, do I still need to watch this? Of course there's no similarities between Jesus and these deities... they didn't EXIST!

  • @Yoshomika if they didn't exist... that is a similarity ;)

  • The thing I hate about this is only reason I'm watching it, is because I thought I'd try to get the other side of the arguement... But, there is NO arguement! It's just some guy going on and on about how Zeitgeist is wrong. Just because you say someone is wrong doesn't make you RIGHT! I'm not a blind idiot, which is why I don't just believe things, so I listen to BOTH sides, but this is just a horrible excuse for even a point being made.

  • funny thing about the guy who made this video is that in spite of him claiming to be a "critical thinker" he would probably blindly accept zeitgeist as true if it said so in the bible. what a hypocrite.

  • if only the person who made this video was as critical of religion as he is of zeitgeist. then maybe he would have some sense of objectivity.

  • i would like to make a video about "the bible debunked" but youtube doesn't allow me to upload that much.

  • if i was going to plagarize/copy/"evolve" something i wouldnt copy it word for word, i think thats the point. filling vessels with wine is pretty damn similar. see what you want to see there.

    all i hear are more opinions, and more similarities of ancient deities to Jesus... actually this just further debunks the bible if you read between the lines.

    this uploader is a christian, why would he care to see what Zeitgiest shows? He will show any minor difference as a non-connection.

  • See...

    iamthewitness.c o m

  • Zeus ejaculated on a mountain and his inner thigh is a womb.

  • Why does every Zeitgeist debunk film spend the whole time trying to debunk 20 min of the film....lol....He is lying because God said so!...hahhahhahahahahahahahhah­ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah­ahahahahahahahahahah....good point...great film

  • @mrbigtruth34 lol i think the religious people are just mad that zeitgeist is more honest than their torah/bible/quran.

  • So many are sucked in by SHITEgeist

  • By the Vedic Mitra having a follower "Varunu," I assume you mean "Varuna," who is not a follower but a fellow god, and might even be considered a more powerful one. And I'm still cringing every time you say "Semele."

  • I think that is great that you correct some misconceptions in that portion of the Zeitgeist film, and maybe he had some bad sources, but whether or not Jesus existed is almost irrelevant. Just the fact that mankind has made up so many irrational myths surrounding our origin tells us something about the mentality at the time. Jesus is so misunderstood. Jesus would probably have agreed with the zeitgeist movies about the monetary system that is for sure. 

  • I confirm that everything concerning greek gods and greek mythology in zeitgeist is total bullcrap. How do I know this? I am Greek and I've done my research, do yours.

    When I saw zeitgeist everything concerning something I knew about was wrong. And why the hell are most of you attacking christianity in the comments? This video is not saying that christianity is true, its just saying that zeitgeist is not.

  • @Phadom1994 And zeitgeist is false about all religions that mentions. Oh I see, you attack chritianity because zeitgeist attacks christianity? Seriously? Please let that not be the case, you cannot seriously attack any religion because a movie you think is true attacked it. There might be or not be god(s), but in either case, zeitgeist is false information concerning religions.

  • This video does expose Zeitgeist for the bullshit that it is. However, that doesn't prove Christianity to be true.

    Both Zeitgeist and Judeo-Christianity are false!

  • All religion does is cause conflict. the end. can i get an AMEN!?!?

  • @gr8cheat Amen. Religion does. God doesn't. in fact he takes the blinders off. Literally, He healed 3 blind people through me.

  • @Pablokolter You a doctor? lol

  • He was blind. I had laid my hand upon his cold grey eyes. I commanded, "In the name of Jesus I command these eyes to be restored and vision returned. Blindness, you are not of the Father. I bind you up and cast you out in Jesus' name". I then prayed for a good 20 minutes in the spirit. He then saw me and my face and could see people around him and he rejoiced in the name of Jesus. No doctors needed.

    I made a vid about it.

  • @gr8cheat amen lol

  • @boomya555 This started out as an interesting series, but every time you resort to ad hominem arguments ("It seems Acharya is not qualified to write on the subject.") you lose a little credibility with your audience. We don't care about their credentials. Stick to sharing why they're wrong. Also, there is a lot more to the film Zietgeist, and its sequel, that I was interested in seeing addressed. If we're not on board with you after 40 minutes, we're not going to be. Move on to a new subject.

  • all the arguing about whether or not jesus or the bible is bullshit, the point of the video is to show that "zietgiest" take on the origin of christianity is yet more bullshit. thats all.

  • @666briareos nothing is more bullshit than the bible. basing an entire belief on someone who has no evidence whatsoever of existing is a complete joke.

  • @jkjmodemail who cares...? not me thanks.

  • Spending some time watching retarded people who post videos like "zeitgeist debunked" ... lol ... you guys are a joke! Most of them keep rating and/or comments turned off ... lol ... For sure you believe Jesus came to earth to make you spend your life reading old books and imagining what your "life" will be when you get to heaven. Give me a break! If you want to worship those catholic children rapers or whoever, go ahead, but dont encourage others to trip with you and dont say bs about zg.

  • You can't debunk Truth

  • Blah blah blah..............all these defenses you have so people can stay in church and worship their "savior". When are you going to realize that there is nothing you need saving from. You are eternal conciousness, and you are here having a experience.

    Chill Out and enjoy existence.

  • I want to point one thing out to you - Zeitgeist is not JUST about religion, that is just one of many issues the movement addresses. And none of the morbid details you dwell upon matter - it's not about trying to debunk religion, it's addressing the concept that religion was made up and that religion does more harm than good. That's it. The core focus of the movement is on the social problems of the world - ie: war, poverty, pollution, corruption etc. - religion is just one of them.

  • I couldnt agree with you more.

  • The guy is just trying to cop a quick buck.

  • Zeitgeist is based upon the work of credentialed scholars, such as DM Murdock, who is a member of the American Classical Studies team in Athens, Greece. You brainwashed Christians are some of the most uneducated LIARS on the face of this earth. Isis and Horus are the REAL basis for the later Mary and Jesus, and anyone with half a brain can see the same artwork. You "Christians" are low down SCUM OF THE EARTH to brainwash and scare your own children with religious lunacies. Doomsday FREAKS !!

  • Great work brother! You should allow others to upload and pass it around. ZEITGEIST IS BULLSHIT!!!!

  • it sucks that christianity has been twisted and contorted into this mess. now we get blamed for being close minded when we are the ones disproving the skeptics. and generalizing a group is ignorant and immature. like hitler in a way. if you actually knew what christianity was, then you would know more than half the people just say they are christian.

  • @drumskater337 Hitler was an evil person. dont lump me in with him. Just because I Know that religion is bullshit, Doesnt mean im gonna go genocidal.... fuckin moron.

  • @Time2Jam247 k.

  • ZEITGEIST NEVER MADE MONEY OFF OF IT STUPID CHRISTIAN FUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! They made the video to maybe save or inform some of you about how your leaders are taking advantage of you and your neighbors, everyday. Milking you dry, untill your homeless or dead. They dont care about you. you all have no imagination, and SO closed minded. But thats what religion does to you. Have fun being slaves! Goddamn christians are stupid.

  • I DONT THINK ANY OF YOU EVEN FINISHED WATCHING ZEITGEIST!!! EVERYTHING PREDATES JESUS! He's just eh most recent story, Notice how THE ONLY people trying to debunk zeitgeist are all christian psychos. You have no imagination. The only train of thought you have is the bible, and its all bullshit propaganda, RELIGION REDEEM MANKIND, BECAUSE RELIGION IS SLAVERY!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Time2Jam247 I SPEND MORE TIME INFORMING AS MANY OF THESE FUCKS THAT I CAN AND LESS TIME DISCUSSING OUR POSSIBILITY/ALTERNATIVES! JUST BECAUSE WE CHOOSE TO ACCEPT AND ACKNOWLEDGE OUR TRUE REALITY, WE GET LABELED AS CONSPIRACYTHEROSISTS AND ARE DISMISSED. BUT WHY IS THE BIBLE THEIR ONLY SOURCE OF INFORMATION THEY CAN REGURGITATE BACK TO US WHEN WE ARE TELLING THE FACTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ANY AND ALL WHO DARE! BUT TO THOSE WHO CAN'T FIND IT, THAT IS BECAUSE MY GODS DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOUR

  • so zeitgeist is making up lies with no sources- but where are your sources? i am holding in my hands right now the book by Edith Hamilton, "Mythology", She is a very respected and famous historian of greek mythology, and this book is a highly respected and sighted as factual. I can tell you right now, that everything you just said about dionysus is a LIE- what zeitgeist said about Dionysus is not only correct- famous well known and respected scholars say so too.

  • @meistershark12 Are you citing Hamilton as a source, or what? Where is your supportive quote? Furthermore--she has been dead for fifty years. I'm sure you'd be hard-pressed to name a single widely respected modern (or at least living) scholar that supports your specific claim; not that Dionysus and Christ share features such as fitting the "dying god" archetype or transubstantiation, but that Dionysus was used as a model for the New Testament savior.

  • but I also have trouble figuring when you are talking about that book or zeitgeist, anyway you should be talking about how none of them are similar to the sun thing, and going off into rants about more detailed things about Jesus and one of the others is stupid, and if an arguement say that Jesus and Horus both performing miracles is not viable because they both performed different kind of miracles is also obnoxious, the arguement is that they both performed miracles and they did so its true.

  • this is really good boomya555, very thorough and thought provoking. i dont believe the zeitgeist is true, but even if it were, Jesus being born to match celestial events and old pagan myths would only strengthen my belief that he was chosen for his role. even if there were 100 jesus's that would not affect my belief in God. there is just too much symmetry and coincidence for it all to be chance

  • Im hearing the word "logic" a lot in these "zeitgeist debunked" videos. They claim to use logic & facts from "reliable sources' to debunk zeitgeist claims but none of them provide any scientific facts that show any of these religions & there beliefs to be true. Can i get any proof that the claims of the bible are true? The over all message of the zeitgeist is peace & abundance for ALL earths people. Historically accurate or not the message is a good one.

  • The more i watch this video, the more i realise how stupid every relgion really is. I in no way believe zeitgeist anymore, this video clearly tears it apart, but it also tears religion apart itself. Each one of the religious myths you mention in this are very entertaining stories and nothing more, including chritianity.

  • One problem I find with your "debunking" is that all the religious examples you're giving have multiple versions. Sure what you're giving "debunks" the zeitgeist views on religion, but maybe there are versions you haven't seen. Before the Mithra part, you said "anything to make a few dollars", while I'm sure you noticed that the zeitgeist movie is free to view online. More importantly, you seem to only be focused on the part about religion, which wasn't the main point in the zeitgeist movie.

  • I like your sarcasm...so unless the rock is a virgin this parallel evaporates, lol!!

  • LAME ... both sides of this story are both reaching way too far... because none ... I repeat NONE .. .of what you are talking about is TRUE... Its all myth... NO ONE TURNED ANYTHING INTO ANYTHING.... CHILDREN ... yay santa clause is real to right. hahahahaha

  • Christians and all other bible toting religious cults need to be converted, and saved from religion. God is not found in books and creeds written by men; but in the undeniable witness of nature, through the conscience. Throw out your religion, and begin to know the true God as witnessed in the creation.

  • @layout1070 My "God"! someone on here with some sense? It is a miracle.

  • -_-.. i get it already, christianity=the one religion that has the most evidence backing it, though it still has miracles and magic in it therefore destroying its credibility as much as any other religion based off the same.

  • @az

    "read earth is flat land floating in water and hanging stars"

    Where does it say the earth is flat. Show me the line, "the earth is flat" or concede that your interpretation only speculation from ignorance. An ignorance which stems from a preset mindset.

    The ancients knew alot more about reality than we do now. And like an astrophysicist in a pre school saying there are 9 Pooh bears revolving around tigger, symbols are given. Youve figured out bears dont revolve around tigers. *wow*.

  • @azdwnldazd

    "When people were lacking rational explanation to understand the things they see,"

    Actually no. man has not become more intelligent. There has only been a compounding of inventions, which leads to technological advances.

    There could be no molecular research without the invention of the microscope first. As microbes living in a computer, we use science to explain its workings. The computer's creator, the desk it is on, and an entire world outside the room its in, is spirituality.

  • These debunking videos prove Zeitgeist's religion part is utter bullshit. Get owned.

  • And soon, we'll have a video debunking this one too. Dont you people noticed that does not metter if Jesus came from here or there? The fact is: Religion is fake. The society is eating itself, the human being is a SLAAAVE! thats the point! stop complaining about the fake god and jesus. Fuck!

  • OK let's be clear. This is not SCIENCE. This is scholarly research. Hence there are FEW "absolute certainties". One scholar may insist that X is "true" but all this means is that his research supports that view. And that research might be incomplete or biased! It takes a brave scholar to show balance. Neither side of this argument has "all" the facts. But one point in favor of this film: it at least cites scholarly sources. But it's not above glossing over certain inconvenient facts...

  • Surely it can't get much more objective than this; it's taking each peice of information that the film gives to you and using resources, texts and scholars to either come to the conclusion that it either has some truth to it or is compeltely false

  • who cares i want to hear about the banking system.

  • show me an OBJECTIVE debunking and I will listen. such arguments do not exist. people hold on to information because they think it means something to them. ITS JUST INFORMATION. it doesnt define who you are, its what you do with the information that defines you. when you completely ignore facts presented to you, WITH SOURCES (acharya s' books) and play somantic games with words said. you cant preach about logic and ignore it yourself. nothing here is debunked.

  • zeus was a god, just because zeus slept with her, doesnt mean it cant be considered a virgin birth, i can say the same about mary, that god slept with mary, and jesus was born... thats just a downplay on words

  • Many thanks for posting

  • lol

    this is a poor video.

    9/11 was a inside job.

    search youtube for ZEITGIEST 9/11

  • It was an inside job, but the part about Jesus was misinformation.

  • but it is true that most of the characteristics of jesus are similar to previous ancient religions.

    If you go to a local library and read up on ancient religions you will find similarities.

  • Look at these videos, he is debunking every one

  • This video has absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.

  • why dont you let us rate the video? because your afraid of being seen as a 1 star video. Gosh your so poorly educated.

    If u believe in god, and in jesus, and in adam and eve tell me this.. why weren't the dinosaurs mentioned??

  • if you think Zeitgeist is true then make a vid and post it as response to my vid.

    why would the Dino's be mentioned if Adam and Eve were made after them, not everyone believes in the literal 6 day young earth creation. and the Bible itself isn't about animals or plants its about Human salvation.

  • and ratings have nothing to do with having a intelligent conversation about a video, any idiot can give a 1 star rating to a video they don't understand.

  • This is so true! Thank you for posting these videos!

  • @boomya555 the bible doesn't have anything to do with having an intelligent conversation either. any idiot could disregard facts and logic and go by "faith" in an imaginary all powerful all knowing being with no proof of existing.

  • i personally began to question the the existence of jesus after watching zeitgeist but thank god for the videos refuting zeitgeist and the work that you do. thank you

  • @boomya555 so just a quick question......when you say "not everyone believes in the literal 6 day young earth creation" what do you mean?? because if someone is a christian and believes in the bible, then they would HAVE to believe in the 6 day creation right?? otherwise they would not be christian...am i wrong???

  • @boomya555 - Many videos are posted to show what an unedcuated sun venerating JOKE you truly are on SUN-day. get a life, you pathetic "Christian" slut of false prophets, greed, and lies !!!

  • @boomya555 what crap you are state here. How are we suppose to believe that you are interested in evidence when you offer an a biblical explanation that is not back by any scientific or even biblical evidence. You are simply offering a solution of the bible when all of the others have been dispelled by science. Evolution is the scientific proof that men were not created in 6 days. Evolution is backed by geology, biology, molecular biology, and numerous other sciences. What's your agenda?

  • @boomya555

    Just for your information, even though I know it's a year to late, "dinosaur," is a fairly new word, when the Bible was translated into english during the 1600's the word "dinosaur," was not a word, in fact the word "dinosaur," first appears over 200 years later. More than likely in the Bible they would have refered to them as "dragons," "behemoth," "leviathan," and various other similar words.

  • @boomya555

    "a year too* late.."

  • The book of Job chapter 40 starting in verse 15 refers to a "behemoth" which "moves his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are tightly knit, his bones are like beams of bronze, his ribs like bars of iron, he is the first of the ways of God; only He who made him can bring near His sword."

  • um, i think they were......

  • @PrettyBoyFalco Behemoth has the following attributes according to Job 40:15-24

    It “eats grass like an ox.”

    It “moves his tail like a cedar.” (In Hebrew, this literally reads, “he lets hang his tail like a cedar.”)

    Its “bones are like beams of bronze,

    His ribs like bars of iron.”

    “He is the first of the ways of God.”

    “He lies under the lotus trees,

    In a covert of reeds and marsh.”

    There is more if you would like me to show you but you really dont care. Honestly

  • @Pretty SHITEgeist is apallingly slack. It's insulting to anyone with a tiny bit of education and totally deliberately misleading to innocent trusting viewers Jesus was a living flesh and blood man with documentation of his life even in Greece. Jesus didnt develop religion, he just LIVED

    Shitegeist wants to remove any self-respect out of our lives that may stand in the way of us accepting their NEFARIOUS plan to CHIP us as slaves. Bankers KNOW Jesus kicked authorities ass & stood for FREEDOM

  • @IdaSputum that's funny that you would accuse zeitgeist of being insulting to people with education. there is no evidence that jesus ever existed. all we "know" about jesus is based on folklore. also, living flesh??? you mean like the wine you drink as if it was jesus's blood and the bread you eat as if it's jesus's flesh??? lol

  • @jkjmodemail So you think the famed, widely respected scholars & historians of that era, renowned for accurate records of emperors, philosophers & luminaries of their time, suddenly broke the fastidious habits of their careers to start LYING re;existence of the man Jesus. Not just one of them, ALL of them. They recorded EVERYTHING ELSE accurately, except for Jesus. They ALL lied about HIM alone. Without reason. Right, you're DEFINITELY something. For a carpenter to get Press AT ALL is stunning

  • @IdaSputum see my playlist I recently made 'Jesus Outside The Bible'. It stunned me HOW sinister it is to try to FAKE the non-existence of such a historic revolutionary anti-banker!

    There's more documented record of Jesus than there is for Socrates! Even atheist history professors concede that Jesus definitely lived, even though they don't see Jesus as Gods son.

    If you can't see you're being LIED to? 1 born every minute!

    Or maybe you're in the vid 'COINTELPRO; what you should know'

  • @jkjmodemail ps. JESUS is NOT religion! I am NOT religious.

    Catholicism is NOT about Jesus, it hijecked Jesus name on realising there were too many Jesus' followers to kill, so it was better business sense to hijack Jesus brand name for themselves to trade under false pretence. Pope nicked 90% of Bible as 'sacred text' & still have it,- as if too good for us peasants or too REVOLUTIONARY

    If Jesus TRUE message were followed it'd end the monarchy, banks, churches & law

    NO MORE ring kissing!

  • @PrettyBoyFalco He is poorly educated just because he disable the ratings? Your stupid.

  • what is this called and where did you find it?

  • I can see you have done your home work and I can appreciate that. But Zeitgeist is not about religion it's about building a better world for our descendant. It is obvious we (my generation) have fuck up bad and I just can not do nothing. Zeitgeist are proposing some solutions and I see this as must better then numbing debate about who believe, what. unending debates are totally nonconstructive. If there is a all mighty god,he will,in is one time clarify it all.Now try to be constructive.Thank's

  • Sure I'll be constructive, Turn to God while you still can.

    you want to follow the zeitgeist movement go ahead no one is stopping you.

  • How will you be constructive? Do you realise the seriousness of the world situation. When your god will comes, what will you have to say when he'll ask, what did you do? I want to stand tall when he come. On thing that stayed with me from the bible is...I will vomit the neutrals from my mouth. I can only hope in god. Show me someone who as found God, I'll show you a warrior or a wimp, The ones that search him are man of peace. All convince believers I've seen, are pretentious.

    Just a fact.

  • God isn't coming for you unless you believe in Him, maybe you missed that part in the Bible

    and you are the Neutral "Luke Warm".

    yes many fake Christians in the world.

  • @boomya555 Praise the Lord. My brother, lets claim Youtube for Jesus.

  • @boomya555 considering christianity is based on something that never happened, i would argue that all the christians of the world are fake.

  • @YvonJrDenis It's called faith...

  • I appreciate what you said but honestly, look at it. We have outlawed the 10 commandments from schools. Heaven forbid if children learn right from wrong. I do not see how taking God and Christianity away will improve anything, only worsens. All our laws have been based off it so how could deconstructing it solve anything? And yes, God will one day clarify everything, but on that day when He does, it will not be a very good day.

  • Zeitgeist is proposing solutions that are written by Blavatsky and Alice Baily, who were Theosophists, who worship Lucifer. It is Theosophy repackaged and delivered to the masses and believed because the masses don't want to believe in the true Christ, Jesus.

    When God clarifies it all, it will be a terrible day for those that believe in the lies of Zeitgeist.

  • I agree, Did my recherche. I came to the conclusion, they are just another deception. They use what is known as PRS The same evils, create "Problems" ( economic crash) The peoples "React" (by asking them for a fix). They provide the "Solution" (Zeitgeist, New word Order, UN NAFTA EU etc...). These peoples are true evils. I can only hope in a good, just, almighty God.

  • @YvonJrDenis I'm not trying to disrespect you but do you hear yourself. Really you would think that people who lie and insult your inteligence by feeding you bull to get there motives accross are the people you want to govern you. Zeitgeist are just a new age of politicians. How can they fix this world? You call people arguing about beliefs numbing but read what you just wrote. Unending debates make peopl study and do research like this guy did. Dont follow people blindly. Find jesus.

  • @YvonJrDenis THIS is very constructive. It's showing you what a cobbled crock Shitegeist is. Its asking you to wonder why Shitegeist lies about SO much, to what end?

    Why deny the fact of a historical man, whos existence is also recorded outside of the Bible? The beautiful Shitegeist buildings are drawings. Fema camps are real.

    ShiteG knows Jesus was anti-authority and all who follow Him will refuse to be chipped as slaves.

  • @IdaSputum yes, jesus was "anti-authority". that's why the name of jesus has been used to establish authority countless times.

  • there is a mechanism in humans which has us feel wonderful and excited and satisfied when we momentarily believe that we have discovered a hidden truth or uncovered lies. its called self righteousness. many unscrupulous people profit from it and/or feed their own by presenting their "proof" to others.

  • excelent work! congrats.

  • boomya, you are AWESOME! This is the best series against Zeitgeist I've heard!

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